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Just found official information that the Trinity will get GPS
See folowing link to the latest HTC brochure.
http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/products/HTC_PRODUCT_BROCHURE_V2_111006.pdf
Guess many of us are happy now
read the bulletin - "Standalone GPS" means an indipendent accessories that provide GPS connectivity... it will be available shortly, which is not a specially fresh news since standalone BT GPSs' have been on the market for a while now (Haicom etc)
its all a bit ambiguous - if you have a look at the way they write up the p3300 you see there choice of words is "standalone gps"
it doesn't matter, even without the GPS function i will still get a set
As we say in Germany : The one who can read has a clear advantage... Trinity will not have GPS on board, period. Xenov, first post, welcome, you are excused...
Lucas0511 said:
As we say in Germany : The one who can read has a clear advantage... Trinity will not have GPS on board, period. Xenov, first post, welcome, you are excused...
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Let's interpred the text this way: HTC will not praise their latest top notch product in the first line of text with "Standalone GPS" when in reality it is a separate GPS device. This is not like HTC.
When "standalone GPS" means a seperate GPS device, then this text would apply to all today's pocket PC's... and HTC would not use this phrase in the first line of text to praise their new pride...
Time will tell, let everyone judge for his/her own...
Mate, read carefully: The "standalone" GPS refers to the HTC 3300, and that is the HTC Artemis, not Trinity. But by now HTC boss Peter Chou must have understood that you are really keen on GPS ))
And as we say in Germany : Other mothers have beautiful daughters, too. Look at this baby, a competitor to HTC Artemis, with GPS:
http://www.etencorp.com/products/Communication/x500.php
IMHO the standalone perhaps means that they will release the HTC branded BT GPS module
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Mate, read carefully: The "standalone" GPS refers to the HTC 3300, and that is the HTC Artemis, not Trinity. But by now HTC boss Peter Chou must have understood that you are really keen on GPS ))
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At both devices HTC mentiones "Standalone GPS": P3600 aka Trinity AND P3300 aka Artemis... Sorry but this is the way it is... can't change it
English - the worlds most ambiguous language......
Either HTC's marketing department is completely useless or they wanted us to stir up this debate for a reason (time for another paranoid pill)
or
we are all just kidding ourselves
(probably the latter)
inevitably only time will tell
What about letiting it mean that unlike the Artemis that comes with stand alone gps and program installed, Trinity will have stand alone gps, but without the program. So that you can choose whichever provider you like
Cheer up guys!!
If there would be GPS "in" the device, all those people testing the device would have noticed it for sure.
From what I read earlier, the GPS is already inside the device but it has not been activated as it conflicts with the Quad-band GSM chip. However, it is said there there will be a ROM upgrade in the future that would finally make the GPS module usable once the conflicts have been fixed.
From the PDF file, I would think that it supports the reports above. Reason being, for both the Trinity and Artemis, they are noted to have standalone GPS and we know for sure that the Artemis already has it.
I guess the reaon for them putting the * and saying that it would be available shortly for the Trinity is likely due to the reports where they are working on fixing the problem and would release a ROM upgrade to enable it in the future.
What do you guys think?
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If there would be GPS "in" the device, all those people testing the device would have noticed it for sure.
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You might be right providing the GPS hardware is connected by software somehow.
The way I understand the situation is that the GPS unit is in the hardware, but not connected by software. Production of the hardware is running from mid october so the hardware won't change anymore.
The only way HTC can make the promised "standalone GPS available shortly", is by software update...
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What do you guys think?
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Agree....
Nice Trinity pics, even for those (like me) who do not understand Polish.
http://pdaclub.pl/view.php?news_id=11939
I guess you guys should check this this out; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279546 for clarification.
ah a beauty! white version triumphs big time over the black version...
if theres so much conflict abt the GPS issue in the Trinity why cant HTC rectify the problem then release the Trinity with GPS or discard the Quad-band GSM chip n use another chip!?!?!?
Thanks for the piscs, really nice the white one.
Hope we can enjoy the GPS on a next ROM upgrade. The time is more close...
Being involved into GPS business, I can say that "standalone GPS" would mean "standalone GPS mode" an opposite to AGPS, or even DGPS/RTK (though I doubt the latter). Read e.g. here:
The resulting AGPS system boosts performance beyond that of the same receiver in a stand-alone mode.
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If it was an external unit, I'm sure it would be called as such with additional "optional" remark.
Hi everybody,
Today one of the Russian PDA forums was claiming Herald to have a built-in GPS (!!!) just like the one in Artemis. The only problem is that there's some contact needing to be soldered.
What do you think, is that possible?
Interesting )))) 4PDA ????
Please post more info
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Interesting )))) 4PDA ????
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Yup. It was on 4PDA.
Biom Defiler said:
Yup. It was on 4PDA.
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I see )))))
gpsd possibility ??
Please send a link so we can take a look at this and research the possibility of gps.
this would be great, anyone can post a link so that we can view it and practive our russian.
best regards
any new informations?
it's a nice fact, my vpa compact 4 will come in 3 days
Wheres the link
Still waiting for the link on that gps coverage ?????
The source of the rumor is here.
But there is nothing more than was said already. Just a pure claim (speculation?), without any detalis.
The initial source says that he had heard it from a person who is an official HTC representative. No more no less. Blueprints unavailable.
I heard fm a newsgroup said that, Herald using the same radio chips as Trinity, which has GPS capability.
But the problem is, Herald doesn't have built-in GPS antenna. That may be what "soldering" needed
Herald and Trinity have different RF modules. Don't confuse it with TyTN, pls.
I've dissassembled Herald - there's no anything inside about GPS
Well.. i think every HTC has an build in GPS because the Herald uses EDGE. that's an sort of GPS so maybe if you search the internet for an edge gps converter, it will show up something promesing. but if you guys want me to contact the HTC company and ask them if the phone has an GPS, i'd do that. a friend of mine works at HTC. i can contact him.
Sry about my rubbish english. it's early in the morning.
^What?! I... wha... I'm gonna go smoke a blunt.
Even if it has GPS, where do you think we can put the antenna? I think Artemis and Herald are same from hardwer point of view.
that cant be true. in trinity there was antena and cpu with integrated gps chipset. in hermes there was same cpu with same chipset but there was no way to install antena and project was quit.
in artemis there is same cpu as in herald but this cpu is in wizard to for example (and in some smartphone) and gps isn't integrated. in artemis this is a standalone chipset which i cant find on my heralds motherboard.. and.. even if that chip is somewhere on our mb's it will not work at all because of lack of antenna.
and between gps and gprs (edge) there are "huge" diffrence...
"edge gps converter"?
and this as a bonus for them who dont belive me that omap850 doesnt have gps implementation. http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
sorry for my english :/
It was probably misread from here.
Such a large portfolio makes it difficult to differentiate individual models substantially. A quick look at the technical specifications will reveal many similarities with the HTC P3300 (Artemis) that we reviewed recently, although the devices look completely different. In short, take out the GPS module and the unique HTC RollR™ control, add a slider keyboard and voila: we can herald a new device.
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I just want to know which is better Nikki or Elf ?
Well the Nike has 3G with no Wifi (atm guys are working on it so hopefully should be working soon) and the Elf has no 3G but has Wifi. So it depends what you want either 3G or Wifi. the Nike is a very good phone though. The Nike has a faster processor aswell.
dual is a lot better.
when the guys get wifi working, the touch has nothing on the dual. even without wifi, i'd prefer the dual, its slimmer, faster, more like a phone, touch is great but nothing beats a keypad. external sdslot.
i'd pick the dual over every htc device out at the moment.
came from trinity to nike and must say - although gps and wifi is not working for the moment, i would again buy a nike.
pros: slider with normal keypad, feels more like a phone, quality of speaker appears to be better than previous htc.
cons: hopefully will be sorted out soon ( wifi and probably gps - maybe there will be a upgrade kit with the missing chip and antenna for gps *ggg* keep my fingers crossed - otherwise use bt gps ) but i guess elf has no gps either ...
give it a go for nike ;-)
Thanx for info . Is xda star a NIKE phone .
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Thanx for info . Is xda star a NIKE phone .
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Yes, Nike is known as: XSA Star, MDA Touch Plus or just HTC Touch Dual..
And of course the NTT Docomo Foma
I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?
Woooooooooo!
Good news.
great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!
wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......
This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.
Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.
That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.
someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.
@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.
Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.
This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.
you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)
up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks
Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi
Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!
Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
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Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg
Try to find a device ROM from which we can extract a compatible, yet better, rilgsm.dll ...the Ipaq 61x and 91x has a well-known problem where the GSM radio doesn't expose the Cell Tower ID to the OS (limiting the "My Location" feature in Google Maps to use the standard GPS only without cell tower triangulation and preventing the useful operation of other apps like Navizon). I am convinced that this problem stems to the rilgsm.dll file in which HP has not implemented this feature (but HTC certainly has).
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So this was from an older ROM build... and I'm wondering if anyone has been focusing on this issue lately. It would be a HUGE improvement to the usability of Google Maps on the 91x (and maybe 61x) if we could get this done...
Strange, my Google Maps on 614c does use the cell tower triangulation. After some time my position is shown within 80m. Anyway any other software with use the Cell ID doesnt work.
Jackos said:
Strange, my Google Maps on 614c does use the cell tower triangulation. After some time my position is shown within 80m. Anyway any other software with use the Cell ID doesnt work.
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that is because it use gps if available
I had my GPS off...
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I had my GPS off...
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No, you didn't.
That, or Google Maps found a way to automatically enable your GPS. After all, there is no hardware method of completely disabling the GPS on these phones; WinMo has low-level access via the GPS multiplexer.
I've done a lot of research on this issue. The first thing to note is that HTC is nearly the only manufacturer that implements the Cell-ID API functions in their rilgsm.dll. Google has conveniently provided the list of supported phones here. And according to pdadb.net, the only HTC device that uses a similar GSM radio chipset is the Hermes (HTC TyTN). I have cooked several different Hermes rilgsm.dll files into test ROMs for the 910c, and each time the radio simply disappears altogether.
Here is a table of GSM chipsets and the phones Google location detection supports:
(our devices, not supported)
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 610c/612c/614c
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 910c/912c/914c
(supported devices)
Ericsson EMP 100 - HP iPAQ hw6900 (HTC Sable)
TI TMS320C54x - HTC Herald, Atlas, Artemis, Elf (Touch),
Qualcomm MSM6260 - Samsung SGH-i780
Qualcomm MSM6275 (2x QDSP4000) - HTC Hermes, MTeoR, Trinity, Cheetah (Palm Treo 750)
Qualcomm MSM7200 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise), HTC Neon (Touch Dual), TyTN II,
Qualcomm MSM7201 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - Palm Treo Pro
Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Touch Diamond
Qualcomm MSM7225 - HTC Rose
As you can see, the closest ought to be the Hermes. But even then, if MSM6275 drivers don't work on our MSM6280 devices, we're going to need something more specific. I am unsure that any other WinMo manufacturer used the MSM6280 chipset.
I was going to say - my HP iPaq 6955 works that way with Google Maps, so I was shocked to find my 910c didn't.
I know little to nothing about working with these sorts of files... but would it be possible to "edit" two versions together? A combination, more so than a replacement?
it is a dll file so the only way to go is hex edit & disassemble, both are hard to do without much knowledge provided
Yeah, so I used the GPS at home too? Impossible... I do not get any GPS signal at home.
Jackos said:
Yeah, so I used the GPS at home too? Impossible... I do not get any GPS signal at home.
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Not impossible - I have got GPS locks from inside my apartment, sometimes inside rooms with no windows. They are satellite radio signals; they can do funny things sometimes. Which do you think is more likely?
1. You have the only iPAQ 61x in the world with working Cell-ID capability.
2. You managed to get a bit of unexpected GPS coverage.
Jeez, be rational.
As for rilgsm.dll, keyx is right - little is known about the internal workings of the file, and it hasn't been reverse-engineered. The things I know about it are drawn from a related project on xda-devs, which is to get Rogers "Name Display" working on non-Rogers HTC phones in Canada (Name Display is a protocol that Rogers & Fido use to transmit names along with numbers for call display, even if you don't have the number in your address book already). This has been accomplished with limited success by substituting the rilgsm.dll file from official Rogers phones with similar (identical) GSM radios, and changing a few registry entries.
I fear that MSM6280 is different enough from MSM6275 that we're out of luck there. We need to try something from the Polaris or the Kaiser, but the MSM7200 seems even more different.
So tell me how im getting an position just anywhere? The upper left corner of Google Maps shows "Seeking GPS satellities (0)..." and my position is shown propertly. Even if I disable the GPS function my position is shown... Strange, indeed.
I don't say that i get the Cell ID, just my cell tower triangulation is working fine.
Here's what I want you to do: take a short drive outside of where that "My Location" dot is showing up. Make sure "Use GPS" is OFF, and tell me if your location updates. I have a feeling you are just looking at the last results of when your GPS was working.
Also - what is the estimate of accuracy for the blue dot? When I used it on my 6945, it was often 900m or more...
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So tell me how im getting an position just anywhere? The upper left corner of Google Maps shows "Seeking GPS satellities (0)..." and my position is shown propertly. Even if I disable the GPS function my position is shown... Strange, indeed.
I don't say that i get the Cell ID, just my cell tower triangulation is working fine.
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Okay, then hit "0" when GPS is disabled. Does it tell you that "My Location" is not supported?
in google map, go to about, at the bottom it has some line like
myl:
wifi:
if the phone does not support mylocation,you will see myl: N/A
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Okay, then hit "0" when GPS is disabled. Does it tell you that "My Location" is not supported?
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Nope, it just shows my position.
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Here's what I want you to do: take a short drive outside of where that "My Location" dot is showing up. Make sure "Use GPS" is OFF, and tell me if your location updates. I have a feeling you are just looking at the last results of when your GPS was working.
Also - what is the estimate of accuracy for the blue dot? When I used it on my 6945, it was often 900m or more...
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I flashed yesterday a new rom build, are the coordinates build into the gps reciever or what? I didnt get a fix since this so i really dont know how this phone knows.
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in google map, go to about, at the bottom it has some line like
myl:
wifi:
if the phone does not support mylocation,you will see myl: N/A
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Yes, it does show "myl: N/A".
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Yes, it does show "myl: N/A".
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Then I'm guessing it was just your last known location shown before. Sorry, your phone is NOT supported.
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Here is a table of GSM chipsets and the phones Google location detection supports:
(our devices, not supported)
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 610c/612c/614c
Qualcomm MSM6280 (2x QDSP4000) - HP iPAQ 910c/912c/914c
(supported devices)
Ericsson EMP 100 - HP iPAQ hw6900 (HTC Sable)
TI TMS320C54x - HTC Herald, Atlas, Artemis, Elf (Touch),
Qualcomm MSM6260 - Samsung SGH-i780
Qualcomm MSM6275 (2x QDSP4000) - HTC Hermes, MTeoR, Trinity, Cheetah (Palm Treo 750)
Qualcomm MSM7200 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Polaris (Touch Cruise), HTC Neon (Touch Dual), TyTN II,
Qualcomm MSM7201 (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - Palm Treo Pro
Qualcomm MSM7201A (QDSP4000, QDSP5000) - HTC Touch Diamond
Qualcomm MSM7225 - HTC Rose
As you can see, the closest ought to be the Hermes. But even then, if MSM6275 drivers don't work on our MSM6280 devices, we're going to need something more specific. I am unsure that any other WinMo manufacturer used the MSM6280 chipset.
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hi, everyboby!
benjaminries (or smb else), could you please try to use driver from Samsung SGH-i900? It has msm6280, WM 6.1 PRO and supports Google maps.
according to pdadb it uses 6281 not 6280, also the 3g band is different so i highly doubt it would works for our device, also rilgsm is very specific that even if two phone has the same chipset the driver may not work in another device.
of course we can always try but someone need to provide the rilgsm.dll
hm... keyx, You are right! In service manual for Sams-i900 there is MSM6281_NSP. So, the problem of 6280 Cell-ID doesn't have solution yet?