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So will the G1 work with ATT's 3G?

Ok so I was looking online at the HTC site and see its says:
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
* Europe: 2100 MHz
* US:1700/2100 MHz
* Up to 7.2 Mbps down-link (HSDPA) and 2 Mbps up-link (HSUPA) speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
* 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I honestly do not know what everything means but I know that ATT's 3G runs off of 850 and 1900....am I correct?
If I am then the ATT 3G should work correct? I am trying to figure this all out because I may pick a G1 up tomorrow with my little brothers account seeing that I am with ATT as of now in order to get the Touch Pro.
THANKS

No it will not work on att 3g

well i guess its not down to if I want a phone with no 3G?
Think its worth not having 3G?

No dude, get a phone with 3G. Honestly when I'm stuck in an EDGE area with my G1 it's too slow for me to do much more then IM and stuff, I almost always switch to my Sprint rev. a pda when out of 3G. Also, more and more services will come out that use 3G and you don't wanna get stuck behind the curve.

Valicore said:
No dude, get a phone with 3G. Honestly when I'm stuck in an EDGE area with my G1 it's too slow for me to do much more then IM and stuff, I almost always switch to my Sprint rev. a pda when out of 3G. Also, more and more services will come out that use 3G and you don't wanna get stuck behind the curve.
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I've had my G1 for two days now and I am in an edge area (no 3G). I'm sure it is alot slower than 3G, but my phone is fully capable of doing anything that it is suspose to. Loading a webpage takes less than 10 seconds. Loading apps from the Market have taken me less than a minute. I'd say this phone is very capable if only on Edge.

doctahjeph said:
I've had my G1 for two days now and I am in an edge area (no 3G). I'm sure it is alot slower than 3G, but my phone is fully capable of doing anything that it is suspose to. Loading a webpage takes less than 10 seconds. Loading apps from the Market have taken me less than a minute. I'd say this phone is very capable if only on Edge.
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I am also in an edge area (3G starts a few miles away). I cannot stream podcasts, but tbh the only time I find myself doing that is when I'm stuck at the airport. Websites load up quick enough...
Right now 3G coverage is only absolutely required if you are tethering or streaming media. I have wifi for my off time at home so no biggie. Now I know there will be some apps that will require that kind of bandwidth, but hopefully tmo will have expanded 3g to my area by then.

Hello,
I was just wondering if
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe: 2100 MHz / US:1700/2100 MHz
means the G1 has both the frequencies for Europe and for the US
or it is sold in 2 Versions.
Does anybody know?
Thanks

rudoe said:
Hello,
I was just wondering if
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe: 2100 MHz / US:1700/2100 MHz
means the G1 has both the frequencies for Europe and for the US
or it is sold in 2 Versions.
Does anybody know?
Thanks
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The G1 is dual-band UMTS; there's only one version.
A tip though, NEVER use frequencies to refer to UMTS bands; they're confusing and ambiguous. Always use the numbered bands.
AT&T uses bands II and V, T-Mobile USA uses band IV, and Europe uses band I.
The G1 supports bands I and IV.
All AT&T 3G phones support II and V, some support band I in addition.
Here's a good article listing the UMTS bands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
There are NO phones to my knowledge which support BOTH bands IV and II or V.
What that means is that you can follow a simple rule, at least for the time being:
If it supports T-Mobile USA 3G, it doesn't support AT&T 3G.
If it supports AT&T 3G, it doesn't support T-Mobile USA 3G.

This topics has been discussed all over this forum:
G1 to use on AT&T
OTA updates on AT&T
Current ATT user, can I activate a G1?
I found way around intial setup screen!! AT&T Users
EDGE/GPRS/3G Questions/Issues/Info
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Have a great weekend all.

A question about HSDPA

I hope someone can answer me this question, please. I want to hopefully understand something before I purchase a Blackstone. My phone carrier is AT&T, and I live in an area that has 3G coverage. Supposedly this area also has HSDPA. I understand already that the HD will not work on AT&T's 3G, but will it work on the HSDPA? I *think* that HSDPA would be fast enough, yes? I tried to look this up, but I am not 100 percent sure of what I am reading... please all, forgive that I didn't understand enough to figure this out myself. Is there someone out there who also has this carrier and can verify that I will be able to surf faster than EDGE? I want to eventually use the secondary camera of the device to make video calls - I have Deaf family members who can be contacted by videophones and I want to do that some day with the HD!! Any and all help is apprecated.

u prolly have your answer by now, but i can fill in here...
HSDPA will work... i have an experia that won't say3G, but does say H and i'm getting speeds of 1100kbps which is 3G speeds... so you are good to go on that part...
As for video calling... you won't get it... i'm not gettin it at all even tho i have modified my phone for it to work... its an AT&T thing... apparently they maybe supporting it in the next few months (so i've read)... knock on wood cuz that would be ground breaking for the USA

HSDPA will not work. HSDPA is a form of 3g (HSDPA/HSPA/UMTS). The HD does not support At&T or any other US carrier 3g frequencies. You will have EDGE

Svegetto said:
HSDPA will not work. HSDPA is a form of 3g (HSDPA/HSPA/UMTS). The HD does not support At&T or any other US carrier 3g frequencies. You will have EDGE
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technically, neither does the x1i i have... but in the discription it does say 850/900/1800/1900 for both phones...
and my phone does not say E... it says H... the hardware are almost identical between the 2 phones...
there were alot of naysayers about the x1i and 3g speeds... but when i got it, popped in the sim card... my internet was BLAZING....

Connectivity: Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA / HSPA: 900/2100MHz. HSDPA 7.2 Mbps
as you can see, the HD supports 3g on 900/2100 (which US networks do not operate 3g on). Although 850 is a 3g frequency for at&t, the HD does not search for HSDPA on that frequency and only for EDGE and, therefore, you'll only get EDGE

Svegetto is correct. I have the HD and I am on AT&T. All I get is the big E. It is faster than it used to be, but it is still Edge.

3G to 4G conversion?

hi friends, i have a doubt......earlier i had a motorola E6 (rokr)(linux based phone), which could be changed from GPRS(1G)(out of box) to EDGE (2G) and triband frequencies converted to quadband using radiocomm software. i did that and enjoyed 2G on that phone.
i was just wondering, could something like that can be done on our 3G/HSPA/HSPDA HD2 to get 4G ?

The motorola probably already had 2g capable hardware and so enabling this would have always been possible, the HD2 does not have 4g capable hardware.

pakure said:
hi friends, i have a doubt......earlier i had a motorola E6 (rokr)(linux based phone), which could be changed from GPRS(1G)(out of box) to EDGE (2G) and triband frequencies converted to quadband using radiocomm software. i did that and enjoyed 2G on that phone.
i was just wondering, could something like that can be done on our 3G/HSPA/HSPDA HD2 to get 4G ?
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Sorry, but no.

[Q] How to get enough speed to use T-mobile's inter on SGN?

Hi, i m using tmobile and i m not getting speed i mean i m only getting E icon on the status bar, and the speed of internet which is i m getting is 46kbps.. hot to get full speed? any tip, trick? waiting thanks..How to get enough speed to use T-mobile's inter on SGN?

The SGN doesn't support 1700mhz AWS (T-Mobile's 3G band in the US), so you're stuck with EDGE on T-Mo... on the other hand, there are some T-Mo users here who have been ditching their data plans and getting a mobile hotspot instead.

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The SGN doesn't support 1700mhz AWS (T-Mobile's 3G band in the US), so you're stuck with EDGE on T-Mo... on the other hand, there are some T-Mo users here who have been ditching their data plans and getting a mobile hotspot instead.
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well, i was looking on the internet about this matter.. and i found that the Note has the same band chip that supports 1700 but it is disabled via mode/radio..

mdanish4 said:
well, i was looking on the internet about this matter.. and i found that the Note has the same band chip that supports 1700 but it is disabled via mode/radio..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395971

AT&T 3G and possibly billing?

hmm...
so my friend bought a sony neo V MT11i and we found out it only has UMTS 900/2100... so supposing it would get 3G on AT&T network.. then after setting up the phone, we saw H on the bar instead of E..
please advice..

H stands for HSPA+ or in other words you have HIGH SPEED DATA.
E would mean you have EDGE service or old slow 2G service. What's the problem?
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!

ya.. thats makes me wonder AT&T is not only using the 850/1900 band??

They may be utilizing the 900 band in your area. Also, some phones, are actually 850/900/2100 or more commonly 850/900/1900
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maybe its the 900 band.. I checked many src and all says the phone got only 900/2100 band...

Did you look at this website:
maps.mobileworldlive . com
It'll show that bands available in your area along with launch dates.