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I have been reading this forum for the last few days. And checking out what your guys are doing here. (I like it!) Now I have some question for some of the experts that will help me make the choice of selecting my new phone.
I have T-mobile USA an currently have a razr. Now I have been thinking of getting a ppc after reading some reviews and things like that I see the kiaser might be the best ppc availale.(This is what I get from reviews don't shoot me) at this time. But I'm not looking to spend that kind of money on a phone. Even though it is sim unlocked not cid unlocked according to reading here what the difference is.
1. Should I go with a T-mobile Wing or go for the HTC Herald? And what is the difference really between the two phones. One is branded the other is not. Or should I try for the next power house in line that would be an HTC Hermes (TYTN).
2 Now if I do that and choose one of the two unbranded phones. It's a possible chance that I will get one that doesn't have english Os (maybe buyng from ebay). And I would like to use the best Rom for that phone from here of course. I'm just thinking i don't want to brick the phone right away. So are there easy methods to cid unlocks on any of these 3 phones? I just listed so I won't have problems trying to flash to a new Rom. With branded or unbranded phone and english or non english Os? Really need help with this.
1. The herald is inevitably more expensive than the wing. if you like tmobile, i'd go with the wing. This is because its unlocked, no? Either way, eh. Anything unlocked will be more expensive.
2. Again, I wouldn't choose the unbranded unless you dont intend to use it with tmobile. Either way, you can call them and ask them to unlock it for you after a set amount of time. This sim-unlocks the phone. Now, for cid-unlocking, we have three choices- aserg's method, USPL, and Hard-SPL.
Aserg's was popular back in the heyday of Herald flashing. Nobody really uses it anymore
USPL writes a temporary SPL to the phone that allows it to be flashed.
Hard-CID replaces the phones SPL with a permanent one that can't be overwritten (i think).
IN conclusion, if you really want an unlocked phone, get a wing, wait 60 days, ask them for the unlock code, and unlock away. To flash a new rom, use USPL or Hard-CID. In the end, you end up with an unlocked phone with CID bypass capabilities.
If you had searched, you would have known that.
Ok let me be more specific here. I do appreciate the reply!
Now here is what I'm asking is the the unbranded Herald better than the T-mobile wing beside looks? (the wing is ugly looking compared to the herald) I will be using the phone on T-mobile service. I understand the price difference in the phone being locked or unlocked. And if so of going unbranded should I choose between Herald or Hermes? The unbranded phones would be sim unlocked not cid unlocked. As I understand and maybe have a different language firmware or Os other than english which I can't understand not bi-lingual. And the wing would be locked both ways but be in english already. If I was to cid unlock what is the most safest way to do so?
If your staying on Tmobile, get a wing. Theres no damn good reason not too. The difference between the two????? Color and I believe keyboard layout -- hence the idea of "rebranding." Same thing.
Get a Wing. Its prettier and unlocking it is a breeze.
People just love the deep, dark, almost pearlescent blue of my phone , as do I!
So there is no difference in the Herald or Wing. So what you are saying is leave the unbranded phones alone. Is the Hermes still a good phone to use unbranded on T-mobile service or just plain ol get the wing and call it a day and stop boggling my brain? I do appreciate the help guys Thanks.
try to find it here:
www.pdadb.net
and choose what you nee.....
IMO, I think that a PDA without a physical keyboard is almost pointless.
I know the basics of the phones. I was just asking for some hands on experience opinions. Best ppc hands down bang for the buck.
go for htc p4350..
my choice any day
Is there any particular reason you are saying go with the P4350? According to others as stated earlier they said go for the wing.
I'm partial to the Wing, but the Herald is just as good. I've seen the Wing selling on ebay for between 250.00 - 300.00 unlocked.
It's not about being lock or unlocked because what I plan on doing soon as I get the phone. I will flash it with a Rom from this site. So I'm looking to make sure I'm getting the best for the time being. Until I get an itch again for the upgrade bug. So here are my choices T-mobile wing, HTC Herald or HTC Hermes. And according to those here is that I would guess that the Wing being the most easiest to flash I assume???? But I'm looking for the best phone that I will be happy with a cool Rom from here with all the tweaks added.
This is to itje. Do you feel there are any huge differences between the p4350 and the wing? If you had any experience with both phone. Or are you saying this because you have a p4350?
Herald V/S Wing
Ok, let's make it very clear Herald and wing are the same exact thing, except one is unlocked and HTC branded while the other is made specifically for America and t-mobile branded. Now lets countdown the major differences good and bad.
The Wing-it's cheaper since it's made for american customers. It comes with Wm6 built in. Less expensive if bought locket with t-mobile. But it shoud'nt be a problem for you since you already have t-mobile.
Herald-Not made for american customers, so you have to buy it unlocked hence more expensive. COme with wm5 you have to manually upgrade to wm6. You get to register with HTC and reciev all the updates.
Bad stuff about having branded T-Mobile: it comes with Myfaves, this app takes up a ton of storage and program meory, hate htis s**t.
So these were the differences in Herald and the wing.
but if you do chose to go unlocked then the question is Tytn V/S Herald V/S Tytn II right. As you know the tilt or tytn ii is the best and the most powerfull phone on the market, but as you mentioned before it's expensive, really really expensive. But depends on how much you want to spend ATT sells it locked for $550, plus unlocking charge. If you want to specifically buy tytn 2 then it's like 600 to 700 dollars.
Now Herald v/s Hermes. Herald is slimmer and lighter than Hermes. Arguably better looking too. But the Hermes has a 400mhz procceser while herald only has 200 mhz. Hermes also has a second camera for video call(the American version dosen't have it) the herald dosen't. And finally Hermes also has 3g, the herald dosen't. But you won't be able to use 3G since T_Mobile USA, dosen't support it. I hope this answers all your questions. Tell me if it dosent.
Hey guys,
I am planning on buying a htc hero on ebay and putting a virgin liberty sim in (Virgin £18+ Unlimited data). However, it is much cheaper to get a htc hero that is locked to orange of t mobile.
I have seen a few threads around saying it is do-able, and some people seem to have problems. Basically i am asking if it is always possible to unlock these phones since i don't want to end up with a very expensive paperweight?
On my last phone (htc tinitiy) it was possible to unlock it via flashing, is this possible?
Thanks!
This is the Trinity section, why not post in the Hero section?
I want a HD2 to use with at&t 3g the t9193 model but cant decide if I should buy the australian version or if I should spend a little more money and get the version that on the go solutions has. I cant post a url for being a new member. but its the version on the fist page of their website. I have read alot into getting this phone but dont think I am capable of flashing the phone and or getting rid of the telstra bloatware. I like the conveniency of everything being done but is it worth paying 900$ for. Thank you.
I wouldn't worry too much about the telstra bloatware... You can uncheck any of the sense tabs that are telstra related and you can run a fix that allows you to remove the top 3 (of 9) links on the home tab as these are normally locked to telstra related items...
I noticed that your radio and rom are both stock for your hd2a. Are u using at&t and if you are is it running good. Can u get rid of that blue telstra home screen and get the nice black one.
does anyone else have any input
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does anyone else have any input
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I have got US-Tmobile HD2 and it works great. No issues - but since you are planning keeping your AT&T service, I think that paying $900 for HD2 is way beyond any normal acceptance.
Don't get me wrong - I love my HD2 and plan to keep it at least 1.5-2 years... BUT:
6.5 will be dead pretty soon...
Many more phones are coming out for better price than $900 and having better hardware functions as well...
If I was stretched between AT&T and having 3G needs on it - I would consider good unlocked Android phone...
Just my $0.02
I want my Hd2 to run like the verizon Hd2 how difficult would this be to setup and do you think someone new to this would be able to complete the installation without messing something up? Any input helps thank you. looking into one on ebay but dont want to miss it before the sale is up. Thank You.
does no one want to help me out
I have been weighing the same options over the past few weeks. I have a FUZE. and I am sick of it...lagging, quirky and so on... I want a new phone (and really the HD2) so badly that I was even considering just buying the TMO HD2 for use on ATT to save money and just deal with no 3G speeds.
In the end I have decided to be patient. WP7 is coming out in October or so. If those phones (fast processor, big screens, other cool features) are desirable for my needs and get good reviews - then I might go that way.
At that same time - because of the new OS and Phones release coming in october ---the then technically obsolete WM 6.5 phones should go down in price...including the HD2. So that is my advise - wait and see how it plays out if you can wait until october.
Do not know how accurately this will all pan out - but I can just not bring myself to pay more ($750.00+) than I would for a full blown laptop for a phone (even though I use it more!)
BTW - I guess I never answered the question...and that is if you are not familiar or comfortable with flashing - then the extra money for the OTG solutions full version as an insurance policy against you bricking it is worth it..
Good Luck
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I want my Hd2 to run like the verizon Hd2 how difficult would this be to setup and do you think someone new to this would be able to complete the installation without messing something up? Any input helps thank you. looking into one on ebay but dont want to miss it before the sale is up. Thank You.
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Verizon does not have an HD2, the HD2 is a GSM phone VZ is CDMA ..
I LOVE my Telstra HD2 - running on AT&T in the States
I bought mine frm an ebay Seller (ebay name *brno* ) for about $600. Best use of 6 bills I could imagine. He had flased the phone with the Official HTC World-wide English ROM and it rocks. Great customer service too!
Do it, you won't regret it!
MadSci
Well I bought the telstra version from ebay (paid 530$ for everything, not a bad deal). I should be getting it some time next week has to ship from Australia. Guess Ill have to wait and get it before I decide to do any changes to it.
Did you buy your T9193 brand new or used ? I tried to locate the seller but I couldnt ...any help please !
MadSci said:
I bought mine frm an ebay Seller (ebay name *brno* ) for about $600. Best use of 6 bills I could imagine. He had flased the phone with the Official HTC World-wide English ROM and it rocks. Great customer service too!
Do it, you won't regret it!
MadSci
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aescobar900 said:
I want a HD2 to use with at&t 3g the t9193 model but cant decide if I should buy the australian version or if I should spend a little more money and get the version that on the go solutions has. I cant post a url for being a new member. but its the version on the fist page of their website. I have read alot into getting this phone but dont think I am capable of flashing the phone and or getting rid of the telstra bloatware. I like the conveniency of everything being done but is it worth paying 900$ for. Thank you.
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The main problem is whether you buy the t9193 or the tmous hd2, you'll never get 3g on AT&T's network. The U.S. GSM network is slightly different when it comes to 3G specs with the rest of the world and there T-Mobile's network is different from AT&T's 3G network.
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The main problem is whether you buy the t9193 or the tmous hd2, you'll never get 3g on AT&T's network. The U.S. GSM network is slightly different when it comes to 3G specs with the rest of the world and there T-Mobile's network is different from AT&T's 3G network.
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You are half right. You will never get 3G on AT&T's network with Tmous HD2, but you will get 3G on AT&T's network with HD2 T9193 version.
hello, i am a blackberry user who is seriously thinking about converting to android.
i have a friend who has a droid pro and is wlling to sell me the device.
ive been researching on how to unlock a android phone and if they will be able to work on other carriers
i understand the droid pro is having a problem with working at&t/tmobile [i have a tmo plan] but the threads i see are old, dated back in 2010 [oct/nov]
i want to know if there is any news of it working now since we are in 2011?
Hi man!
Great to hear that you are considering switching to the Droid Pro, I am sure you will not be disappointed coming from BlackBerry.. I personally always tried to resist switching to BB but was fed-up with touchscree-only phones so the DroidPro was the perfect compromise in what i was looking for, and its running very very nice. And with WhatsApp installed it does literally everything BBM would.. as long as your friends have it installed to that is
However, to answer your question, so far there is no way to run the Droid Pro on T-Mo US.. In a different forum, a guy actually had his Droid Pro working on both T-Mo US and Verizon. It turned out his device was an engineering sample, a prototype so to speak, and once he updated his ROM he lost the ability to use T-Mo as well... But this also shows that it is really just a software issue.
Motorola locked the device US-internal to Verizon. If its unlocked however, you can use it on any GSM network in the world, outside the US. I am using it on T-Mobile UK for example...
But dont fear, the outlook is good for a solution.. WIthin the next month or two, Motorola will release the Droid Pro in Europe, and it will not be branded to any network as far the news go.. If some genius is able to extract that ROM and finds a way to flash it onto the Verizon-branded devices than the Verizon-lock should be a thing of the past!
oh man that sucks bad. now i have to look for tmobile android phone for cheap even tho getting a android phone for 200 from my friend is cheap as it is
Hey guys, sold my iPhone 4 2 weeks ago for $550, it was unlocked, so its value increased since I bought it in December.
Anyway, I was getting tired of boring old iOS, and the screen was too small as I have huge hands, so I switched to a galaxy S 4g. Didn't really like the phone that much, and the dev community is still growing with it. Plus my dad really liked the phone, so I gave it to him for his birthday
I've been bouncing around from device to device, blackberries, other htc android phones, but none of them really satisfy my need for a nice phone. I wanted the HD7, but then I ran into some videos of the HD2 running windows phone 7, and I looked here and there are 4 or 5 different OSes this phone can run, so I've decided this is the phone I want.
I've been searching craigslist for some devices, and I like when people include the box and original accessories because that shows to me they care about their stuff, which means the phone probably was babied.
So I ran into a few, and this one guy has one that is stuck on the boot screen. Is this fixable? Although I probably shouldn't consider it as I can't test the touch screen, buttons, and the earpiece and microphone.
But my real question is, is there anything I should look out for when trying to purchase an HD2? TIA
I would NOT buy any phone that is "stuck at bootscreen" or anything like that, because that could be a hardware failure.
You want a phone with no nicks or dings, but when you turn it on you want to do something very processor heavy and make sure it does not freeze (would be an overheating hardware issue some HD2s have).
play a movie or stream netflix (if it's running android or WP7) or do other processor heavy things for a minute. If it does not freeze or reboot then you should be fine.
wanto to buy usa version
Hi,
can I buy the usa version with 1gb rom and hope to get it working on italy?
does anyone tried it ?
thanks !
as orangekid wrote you should be very carefully about freezes ( overheating issues ), also try to find a US tmobile version ( i has more rom space 1 gb - eu version 512mb).
BUT remember the Tmobile US version ONLY works on tmobile 3G bands. I don't know of a single international network where you will get 3G bands working.
1GB ROM is better, but 3G is also better...
Thanks for the info guys. I'm actually from the USA and on T-mobile USA, but I don't use data. I may purchase the $10 200mb plan just to test the phone when I buy it.
So overheating seems to be an issue huh.
Should I put a movie on a microSD and play it back on the HD2 I'll be buying? Just to test it of course. I don't know how to do processor intensive things on WM 6.5.
And the US version has the 1GB ROM? Does that mean it is compatible with all OSes hacked for the HD2? Is there a specific way to tell if its the US version? Would the fact that it is branded as T-mobile at the top be enough evidence?
As I said, I'd like to at least test run WP7 on it, if not, I'd probably stick with a gingerbread ROM.
It will come with Transformers 1and 2 installed on the SD.
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That is if they haven't deleted them =|
I'll just put a movie on my current microsd card. What kind of movie file does it need to be?
I've bought about 6 hd2's, I would recommend, you take out the battery of any device you are looking to buy, if it won't boot after reinserting, you're being sold a lemon...the creeps have figured out how to make it work just long enough for a sucker to buy...this is true of the touchscreen of death models..buyer beware..
orangekid said:
BUT remember the Tmobile US version ONLY works on tmobile 3G bands. I don't know of a single international network where you will get 3G bands working.
1GB ROM is better, but 3G is also better...
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No you are mistaken
TMOUS HD2, works in INDIA with all 3G networks perfectly
i use one and have 3G running on almost 5 Different providers( AIRTEL, DOCOMO, AIRCEl, VODAFONE , BSNL ), funny thing is in INDIA all network providers are allocated the same 3G spectrum, so you can have one device and use any network"s SIM with 3G
have fun
Just wanted to let you guys know, I'm heading out to purchase a HD2 right now. No box and accessories, just a charger, but hey, I'm getting it at a great price. It is running android 2.2 however. Means this guy has been messing with it.
I'll pull the battery and reboot the phone, and then I'll insert my microsd with a movie on it. See if it freezes.
When it freezes, is it like lag, or does it just freeze and not change the picture on the screen?
Also, I will have internet. Is there anything intensive I can do using internet? Leaving in 30 minutes so yea...lol
ninez said:
Hi,
can I buy the usa version with 1gb rom and hope to get it working on italy?
does anyone tried it ?
thanks !
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Mine worked perfectly in Germany (O2) and Poland (Play) so I guess Italy should be OK.
HD2 is a great phone...
I bought my first hd2 like 1 month ago... previously i have a Touch PRO with wm6.5 and android... but wanted to get a larger screen and try wp7, but i was afraid of not liking the wp7... so i get the hd2 and i'm very happy with it... actually have WP7 + ANDROID (RAM Build)... both are stable and fast... so happy....
And 3G is not a problem with a TMobile HD2... im in Brazil and working fine...
Thought I'd update everyone with what I did.
Ended up finding someone interested in this Blackberry Tour 9630, no wifi, just a charger and phone, for his HD2 + case + charger + 2gb microsd.
Added $60 on my end, and got the Tour for only $60 a few weeks ago, so in total I spent $120 on the phone.
Thus far, the greatest phone I have ever used. I just love it. Currently running a stock version of WP7, don't even want to boot into android because WP7 is sooo nice
im glad for you my bro....
i have a question... from your name are you an Albanian?
orangekid said:
BUT remember the Tmobile US version ONLY works on tmobile 3G bands. I don't know of a single international network where you will get 3G bands working.
1GB ROM is better, but 3G is also better...
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I got US Leo & 3G works fine in Asia & also in UK, tested on Vodafone & T-Mo uk. Many users from Australia & Europe report function ok too.
hope op has got a good one, used HD2 market is a dodgy one & buyer be aware ...
I have a ustmobile hd2 in new shape. What is it worth? Have an iphone 3g with old FW to sell.
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ubejd said:
im glad for you my bro....
i have a question... from your name are you an Albanian?
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Yes I am. I see from your avatar picture you are too
Mister B said:
I got US Leo & 3G works fine in Asia & also in UK, tested on Vodafone & T-Mo uk. Many users from Australia & Europe report function ok too.
hope op has got a good one, used HD2 market is a dodgy one & buyer be aware ...
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My HD2 was in great condition. The only issues i had were the battery cover's clear coat had started to peel and the front buttons also had clear coat peeling. No hardware or software issues. It does get hot at times, but I've read this is common with this phone?
tageeboy said:
I have a ustmobile hd2 in new shape. What is it worth? Have an iphone 3g with old FW to sell.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk
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They should be worth around the same I believe. You should check your local craigslist to see the going rate for each phone, or if you're willing to go through a little more hassle, you usually can get more money for your phone before paypal and eBay fees.
albanianbrotha said:
Yes I am. I see from your avatar picture you are too
It does get hot at times, but I've read this is common with this phone?
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Im glad you are ( fatmiresisht edhe une) .
About heating until you have lags, freezes or restarts thats common dont worry.
albanianbrotha said:
Thanks for the info guys. I'm actually from the USA and on T-mobile USA, but I don't use data. I may purchase the $10 200mb plan just to test the phone when I buy it.
So overheating seems to be an issue huh.
Should I put a movie on a microSD and play it back on the HD2 I'll be buying? Just to test it of course. I don't know how to do processor intensive things on WM 6.5.
And the US version has the 1GB ROM? Does that mean it is compatible with all OSes hacked for the HD2? Is there a specific way to tell if its the US version? Would the fact that it is branded as T-mobile at the top be enough evidence?
As I said, I'd like to at least test run WP7 on it, if not, I'd probably stick with a gingerbread ROM.
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overheating is normal when you run intensive stuff. if it doesn't reboot all the time it's ok.
the european version is also able to run all os. you just have to make an ext partition on the sd card for android and use sd ext. on windows phone it's no problem at all because the sd card gets formated and is added to the internal storage of windows phone. i think the most obvious thing to tell it's a tmous hd2 are the coloured call and end-call buttons. on the european version they are all just black and white backlight.