What's the meaning of ELF0010, ELF 0030, etc.?
its like the 'model' or 'version' of ur device.
version of hardware or firmware?
Hardware, this cannot be changed.
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I am sick of the old ROM, and the outdated Radio. I think many problems can be solved if I can upgrade my O2 Exec ROM to the new JARJAR one from a month ago that was posted on clubimate.
I know I need to use a tool called NO_ID something to make my machine accept a different ROM than O2, say the Jasjar ROM.
THREE PROBLEMS:
1) After making the upgrade, can I CHANGE my DEVICE ID back to the one which I've had before? I have a program that I purchased for a lot of money and it works by the device id only! They are not willing to give me a new version. So I gotta be able to change my Device ID back to the one I had. Is it possible? Would the JJ ROM work after the upgrade if the DeviceID is changed?
2) Can I safely and absolutly for sure revert back to the old ROM which I had? Just in case something will happen?
3) How can I get the latest OFFICIAL Imate rom? Clubimate will not let me download it I guess, because I don't own an IMEIA of a JJ but rather of the Exec.
I appreciate the help!
MOBILER
Re: !IMPORTANT! Question regarding NO_ID - Want JJ ROM on my
mobiler said:
1) After making the upgrade, can I CHANGE my DEVICE ID back to the one which I've had before? I have a program that I purchased for a lot of money and it works by the device id only! They are not willing to give me a new version. So I gotta be able to change my Device ID back to the one I had. Is it possible? Would the JJ ROM work after the upgrade if the DeviceID is changed?
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What do you mean "Device ID" ? Example please? All the software I've seen so far uses the Owner name as a basis for it's code, but sounds like you mean something else. If you mean the IMEI base code of the phone, that won't change and will stay the same.
mobiler said:
2) Can I safely and absolutly for sure revert back to the old ROM which I had? Just in case something will happen?
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There should be no problems. I can't give you a 100% on that because I don't want you coming after me in the very rare circumstances there are problems, but I've flashed my Universal about 15 times in the week I've had it and even though I had a few problems (Radio ROM's) I was always able to reflash it/get it working again (including back to the original ROM).
mobiler said:
3) How can I get the latest OFFICIAL Imate rom? Clubimate will not let me download it I guess, because I don't own an IMEIA of a JJ but rather of the Exec.
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It's on the FTP site:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
and see this page for working out which ROM you want:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
Re: !IMPORTANT! Question regarding NO_ID - Want JJ ROM on my
xanth said:
an "Device ID" ? Example please? All the software I've seen so far uses the Owner name as a basis for it's code, but sounds like you mean something else. If you mean the IMEI base code of the phone, that won't change and will stay the same.
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Thanks for being helpful with the links I'll check them
Regarding Device ID. That is EXACTLY what I meant, I didn't make a mistake. My program goes by the DEVICE ID. I think it works in a similar manner to how the Jasjar Rom update does. That is checking that your device ID states it's really a Jasjar and not XDA, QTEK or Dopod. I have a program that I paid $100 and it says it goes by device ID.
It says my DEVICE ID is: 355195001182280158000050BF3F5120
and that is will not work on any other device.
That said,
I know that the NO_ID hack down here is supposed to delete my Machine's device ID. So I'm afraid it will not work anymore... BTW: My IMEI begines with part of that long device ID string but that string is longer that the IMEI I se on the Settings->Device Information
Thanks
MOBILER
I don't get it. The WIKI page for Universal says that Uni_ROM_1.30.68 is a test rom?!?
Uni_ROM_1.30.68
WARNING: This is a test ROM and may damage your device
So how can I get the OFFICIAL LATEST Imate Rom without going to clubimate which I can't ? (I have Exec not imate)
Pardon my ignorance.....what is CID, super cid, etc?
Country ID, prevents you from flashing unoriginal debranded roms.
The effect is correct but, just to avoid confusion, it's Carrier ID.
As said above, it's to stop you flashing ROMs that aren't supplied by the original supplying carrier (T-Mobile \ O2 etc...) of the phone.
Look at HardSPL \ Olipro if you want to make yours SuperCID (which means you can flash any ROM from any carrier) but be aware it could have warranty implications.
Cheers,
Smiffy.
How about next time you post the whole question in the title and try searching before making a post about it. Google is full of information!
Earlier this year I had issues with my TC not reliably receiving signals and I had tried a cooked ROM (installed Hard-SPL etc.) - so although I am no expert, I am also not completely "virgin" .
Since that did not solve the problem I restored the original ROMs and had contacted HTC and they sent me a new unit a couple of months ago, which works fine (except that it doesn't show the name of my Mobile provider ... but that's not really an issue right now). I activated my TomTom (incl. maps for Europe/USA/Canada) and that works fine.
Current setup:
ROM 1.28.407.2 GER
Radio 1.58.25.14
Protokol 25.69.30.05H
Windows Mobile 6 Prof. (CE 5.2.1623 - Build 18129.0.4.5)But I've seen that HTC has released WinMobile 6.1 and that XDA-Devs have release custom ROMs with Touchflow3D.
Before I upgrade (either to the HTC 6.1 ROM or any of the great cooked ROMs you guys have developed), just some questions for my own understanding:
a.) Flashing a custom ROM will void my warranty (but I could flash back an official version, if I need to send it in for service), correct ?
b.) Will flashing (either 6.1 or custom ROM) require a new activation for TomTom ? (They have already told me that they would allow this only if I had some kind of receipt that the unit had been serviced or that I purchased a new unit).
c.) What custom ROM would be recommended ? (I realize this may be difficult to answer, but there are so many versions that I am completely confused Especially confusing are issues like whether TomTom is in ROM or not and what other add-ons are included. Basically, I do not need to optimize RAM/ROM-usage ... )Cheers,
Andreas
A: Correct
B: The TomTom shipped with the phone does not require activation. the maps however do.
I found that the Device ID does not change after software upgrade. So i dont need to re-activate my maps. Just dont delete your map files, reinstall TomTom and ur ready to go again
C: Depends on ur own like. i used UdK Syrius R1 and it was real good. Now i have M-Amine 2.0 Rom in my own language. also very good.
Theft_eXP said:
I found that the Device ID does not change after software upgrade. So i dont need to re-activate my maps. Just dont delete your map files, reinstall TomTom and ur ready to go again
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Is the device ID tied to the IMEI ?
Regards,
Andreas
acocq said:
Is the device ID tied to the IMEI ?
Regards,
Andreas
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The device ID should be linked to the hardware, and the application name, and not to the ROM/device firmware.
l3v5y said:
The device ID should be linked to the hardware, and the application name, and not to the ROM/device firmware.
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Should be ... or is ? Sorry if I am being pushy on this, but I just want to avoid having a great ROM upgrade, but a non-functional TomTom (which is very important to me ... a functional one, of course ).
Cheers,
Andreas
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
Cheers
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Technically a ROM chip is just that- a Read Only Memory chip that holds fixed information.
In Windows Mobile (and general phone) terms, the ROM has come to mean the software (or firmware) that is loaded into the ROM chip. So, for the HD2, if you look in Device Information you will see a ROM version. For release this was 1.43, but HTC have since released V1.48 and there are some engineering samples of V1.61 around as well.
Flashing the phone means the process of installing a new ROM image into the ROM chip. Official versions are executed using a ROM Update Utility (RUU) while the phone is connected to the PC, but 'cooked' versions are more often executed from the memory card.
In general, you can only update the ROM with one designed for that phone unless you make some changes to the BIOS, which involves installing a sub-program called Hard SPL. Once that is installed, you can then update the phone with any compatible ROM. Currently there is no Hard SPL available for the HD2, but the specialists are working on it
In the meantime there is a workaround to allow the loading of official ROM images from other locales or operators, but again this needs some specific changes being made to the memory card from which it is loaded.
The warranty situation is far from clear. Technically you should only update a device with a ROM image supplied by the operator, or by HTC if it was bought SIM free; however, the HD2 has been supplied pretty much the same as SIM free models by Vodafone and O2. Vodafone contradict themselves in their advice- one paragraph says you can install an 'official' update, but another paragraph says you can't.
Installing cooked ROMs (when they become available) would definitely invalidate any warranty.
snerkler said:
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
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Think of the ROM as the operating system of the phone. Both the software itself and the memory chips it is stored on are called ROM, but when you see people discussing ROMs here they will generally mean the software. So the software ROM (ie operating system) is stored on the phones ROM (ie Read Only Memory). It's called read only, but it's not - it can be erased and a new software ROM flashed to it.
snerkler said:
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
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If you bought your phone from a service provider, they will have locked the ability to upgrade the ROM, to ensure that you can only install official upgrades issued by them. This is why many people are waiting for Hard SPL to be completed, as it removes this lock. However, you can tweak your phone and and install as much software as you want without affecting your warranty.
snerkler said:
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
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You can install all the apps and cabs you like without affecting your warranty. A simple hard reset will always return the phone to its 'fresh out of the box' state.
Installing HardSPL and custom roms will invalidate your warranty, but tweaks and cab files won't.
edit - Neil, you beat me to it
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
omneity said:
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
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I guess you were lucky - many people have had their warranty voided by HTC and/or a telco for having custom firmware installed.
Many thanks for the advice, very helpful
Hi,
I got this hTC Touch, a clone one, as it doesn't recognized by the touch identificator (I found a software that can identify the spl of the phone). I really want to do some wicked tweaks like the original elfin owner does, like flashing the OS, but I really can't do it because the spl is unknown.
Really, you can't differ it from the original ones just by the physical appearance. I realize it is a clone after I can't enter bootloader by camera+reset method. Then I realize (by reading the forum) that my device is a clone.
So, for those who knows, can I flash this phone OS?
If it is possible, how can I do it?
Here are some technical infos:
ROM Ver: 1.11.706.1.B En
CPU: Omap850
RAM: 128
ROM: 256
Any help or tips will be very appreciated,
Thx before,
best regard,
Xue
anyone?????
first off, i have never seen a clone phone but i hope i can be of any use.
I want to rule out the possibility of it actually being a real elfin, as its 128/256. Have you checked internally to see if it is a clone? I'm guessing here but i thi k a clone would be slightly different i terms of components? Have you tried hard reset combiations?
I'm just a little confused as the processor is the same as a genuine elf(in).
In settings, system, device information, what does it say?
Stu
Xue v.2 said:
Hi,
I got this hTC Touch, a clone one, as it doesn't recognized by the touch identificator (I found a software that can identify the spl of the phone). I really want to do some wicked tweaks like the original elfin owner does, like flashing the OS, but I really can't do it because the spl is unknown.
Really, you can't differ it from the original ones just by the physical appearance. I realize it is a clone after I can't enter bootloader by camera+reset method. Then I realize (by reading the forum) that my device is a clone.
So, for those who knows, can I flash this phone OS?
If it is possible, how can I do it?
Here are some technical infos:
ROM Ver: 1.11.706.1.B En
CPU: Omap850
RAM: 128
ROM: 256
Any help or tips will be very appreciated,
Thx before,
best regard,
Xue
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I think it's no clone, because there aren't any clones with the same Processor,The same Look, The same specifics, those clones would differ with something of the Real HTC Touch, have you checked/examined every single information about your phone and the HTC Touch like how many Megapixel the HTC Touch and Your phone has etc.?
Try to sync this phone of yours with (Microsoft's) Active Sync 4.5 and then run the software which gathers the device info(phone must be 'fully' connected to your pc, without the Syncing you won't get no information about your phone.)
- Did you get a box when purchasing this phone?
- Did you bought this phone from a Reseller (for e.a online: Ebay) or from a genuine shop?
- Did you got a CD whit your phone, and what 'Sync software' was on it? Microsoft's Active Sync or something different?
I would like to hear more about this issue. PM or post a reply at this topic whenever you want or need to