Hi Everyone,
is it possible to develop a "virtuell TMC Port" by using the inbuild fm radio (rds)?
There are programs that could do this LINK, but i found this only for PC, not for PPC.
Maybe a brain or well-informed person could find / develop a solution?
I'm sure many people would become happy
nobody any idea?
I would be very happy indeed as I am missing TMC with my trusty Navigon 7
TheNicoT said:
Hi Everyone,
is it possible to develop a "virtuell TMC Port" by using the inbuild fm radio (rds)?
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Thats an issue where thousands of user look at and dozens of really smart dev guys has already spent weeks of brain work.
I think there is an ETEN glofiish model out in the market beeing able to receive TMC by it's bult-in fm module and some guys tried to catch and patch the famous gpstmc.dll and fm.dll but they had no success afaik.
A tool called "DecoRds" has been developed by the spanish guy Jose-Ramon and this tool provides a bypass to feed the RDS-based TMC messages into TomTom.
See this for details (in German):
http://www.forum.pocketnavigation.d...62&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=1
Search for "gpstmc.dll" and/or "decoRds" here and outside and you'll find a lot but there is still no solution....and you'll find too the unfortunate reasons why: it's mainly a matter of device incompatibility and manufacturer-specific coding interests...
so short
snoman
Hi ptestfall,
i see you are using Navigon 7 on the XPeria. I want try this software, but the Installation of the Testsoftware didn't worked. what is my problem?
Are there special hints you can give??
Thanx HAndi
Navigon and xperia
Follow the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443453
and #13
regards Mats
I don't have X1 but if X1 has compatible FM radio chipset with diamond/raphael FMS driver, you can get TMC data from the build in FM radio.
Otherwise if somebody can give a copy of FM radio application and FM radio driver on X1, maybe I can reverse engineer that API like I did for Raphael.
flywhc said:
I don't have X1 but if X1 has compatible FM radio chipset with diamond/raphael FMS driver, you can get TMC data from the build in FM radio.
Otherwise if somebody can give a copy of FM radio application and FM radio driver on X1, maybe I can reverse engineer that API like I did for Raphael.
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So it is possible to use a gps application with TMC support on the Diamond without any peripherals? If so, I bet the API /drivers/chipset on the X1 are the same, since it's made from HTC and has a common Qualcomm chipset.
flywhc said:
I don't have X1 but if X1 has compatible FM radio chipset with diamond/raphael FMS driver, you can get TMC data from the build in FM radio.
Otherwise if somebody can give a copy of FM radio application and FM radio driver on X1, maybe I can reverse engineer that API like I did for Raphael.
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FM driver works exactly the same as the Blackstone version, not tried a raph one, there's no standalone x1 radio app just a panel so we tend to use the blackstone one..
But heres the X1 fms_api.dll and fms.dll from r3a release..
If you need anything else or these aren't what you need let me know.
Cheers
fards said:
FM driver works exactly the same as the Blackstone version, not tried a raph one, there's no standalone x1 radio app just a panel so we tend to use the blackstone one..
But heres the X1 fms_api.dll and fms.dll from r3a release..
If you need anything else or these aren't what you need let me know.
Cheers
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It seems X1 uses same FM driver as other HTC devices.
Can you go to my post and try xFM Radio on your X1?
Thanks
immediately picked up bbc r2 "claudia" RSSI25
Great News
So do I see it right, that flywhc was able to extract the TMC info from FM radio?
I guess we only need to port that info on a COM port so that the navigation program (i hope also navigon) is able to read the info.
correct?
Hope to have TMC in Navigon soon
Something new?
Related
Hi Folks,
I was wondering a while ago if there would be a way to use the internal FM-radio for TMC purposes in TomTom which is pre-installed on the Cruise.
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
Now, i installed this on my Cruise with TomTom6 and initially it didn't work.
So, here are my settings on which the tool works and seems to work (haven't established a full working setting just yet):
Code:
1. Install both files provided from the link on your device. NOT MEMORYCARD
2. Run DecoRDS
3. go to Input, Port, and set it to COM4
4. go to Input, 9.600 bps and set it to 57.600 bps
5. Press OPEN, which will start the RDS tuner
6. go to Input, CONTROL, and select manual. Now you can search the frequencies for the RDS signal.
(optional: 7. enter 98,6 since it's Radio 1 with ANWB TMC for Netherlands)
Now, this SHOULD work, but i haven't figured it out completely yet, since it doesn't work in TomTom yet.
Anybody interested in helping me find out?
Here's the rapidshare: http://rs13.rapidshare.com/files/59746182/DecoRDS_Netherlands_beta.zip
Don't you need the wired earphones attached for the radio to receive any signals?
most certanly you do,
or at least a spliter (htc usb to audio usb and charge)
Great discovey,
can you post a link to the program's webpage to keep informed on future releases ?
sorry i can't help test it
My cruise is in service, and in romania there isn't any station with tmc
I searched so long for an application like this!!! Is it only working for NL users? Can it also work with iGO8?
thanks
hompage is www.lacasadelgps.com but i can't find any information about the software
a lot of information here
it looks like it is possible to have TMC on normal PDAs. even more it is possible to have TomTom use the TMC data.
After reading the forum I see that it is possible to use TMC in some countries.
This due to the fact that you need "translation tables". these tables "translate" the name of the road (say A12) to map coordinates in TT. It looks these tables are only available for Spain and Italy at the moment.
... and .de and .nl
NeoS2007 said:
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
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DecoRDS's purpose is to decode RDS data received by a GPS-TMC receiver. It decodes the NMEA wrapping, maps the TMC location code to a geographical position using location tables then it send the information to Tomtom.
It does not work as far as I know with HTC Touch Cruise/Polaris internal radio.
You might be right, as i can't seem to get any frequency with a working RDS signal. I have the frequency, but the program doesn't seem to use the internal radio... Bummer. Wonder if it could, only problem is, i don't have any knowledge of programming...
Here was a another very nice Solution!!
http://www.world-of-memory.de/product_info.php?cPath=199&products_id=2141&osCsid=d2ab8515b26d701f421dda46bf645e27
58 euro just for tmc? .. pfft.. i think a better solution is than the tomtom plus service
DreamCrasher said:
58 euro just for tmc? .. pfft.. i think a better solution is than the tomtom plus service
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Sure, 40 Euro per year (plus downloading fees) and only working with TomTom.
Great.
Sascha
Borsti99 said:
Here was a another very nice Solution!!
http://www.world-of-memory.de/product_info.php?cPath=199&products_id=2141&osCsid=d2ab8515b26d701f421dda46bf645e27
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but does this work with/for TT7 wm based devices? So not only TT devices?
Wow.. getting this to work on our devices would be awesome!! I wish I had the programming skills to get into this..
too much interestant...
XTREEM|RAGE said:
but does this work with/for TT7 wm based devices? So not only TT devices?
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It does work with most TMC capable navigation softwares which does not include TomTom (since it does not support TMC)
Sascha
Not true
TT is able to use TMC. If TT7 has the subroutines to use it I do not know. TT is using the same programmingcode for all their devices. They sell their own TMC receiver. http://www.tomtom.com/products/accessories/accessory.php?ID=510&Product=500&Category=0
QAN said:
TT is able to use TMC. If TT7 has the subroutines to use it I do not know. TT is using the same programmingcode for all their devices. They sell their own TMC receiver. http://www.tomtom.com/products/accessories/accessory.php?ID=510&Product=500&Category=0
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Sorry, but this simply isn't true.
TomTom Go devices are TMC ready but Linux based.
TomTom Naviator isn't TMC ready and Microsoft Windows Mobile based.
Both versions have strictly nothing common (except GUI).
Sascha
NeoS2007 said:
Hi Folks,
I was wondering a while ago if there would be a way to use the internal FM-radio for TMC purposes in TomTom which is pre-installed on the Cruise.
After a bit of searching on the web, i found a small program called DecoRDS, made by J.R. Pueyo (big credits to him!)
Now, i installed this on my Cruise with TomTom6 and initially it didn't work.
So, here are my settings on which the tool works and seems to work (haven't established a full working setting just yet):
Code:
1. Install both files provided from the link on your device. NOT MEMORYCARD
2. Run DecoRDS
3. go to Input, Port, and set it to COM4
4. go to Input, 9.600 bps and set it to 57.600 bps
5. Press OPEN, which will start the RDS tuner
6. go to Input, CONTROL, and select manual. Now you can search the frequencies for the RDS signal.
(optional: 7. enter 98,6 since it's Radio 1 with ANWB TMC for Netherlands)
Now, this SHOULD work, but i haven't figured it out completely yet, since it doesn't work in TomTom yet.
Anybody interested in helping me find out?
Here's the rapidshare: http://rs13.rapidshare.com/files/59746182/DecoRDS_Netherlands_beta.zip
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I can't find any TMC signal with this configuration (with italian tables).
hi, I have made a small application to retreive nmea information from my bluetooth GPS on my HTC Tytn phone ( wm6 )
I developped it using microsoft visual studio 2008 pro avec wm6 pro sdk.
I would like to include a button to activate/desactivate the bluetooth from my application, any idear how I could do that plz ?
You'll find native functions and description in the SDK-Help.
Anyway, bluetooth is not simple to handle.
I'd recommend to use a freeware called 32feet to use bluetooth functions in .NET.
I's a library which does the wrapping of native DLL-functions to .NET.
You can find it on codeplex.com.
But keep in mind that it is not guaranteed to work properly, because there are 3-4 different bluetooth stacks on the market and the library does not work with all of them.
Hi,
if I good remeber someone on XDA have made some library to enable/disable BT/Wifi/Phone, and it was make in C# or VB... and there was near 1 or 2 month ago.
I don't know how to find his post but the good users could help you...
Sorry for this little help Hope you'll find !
I've been messing around with the 32Feet libraries (6.1 Touch Cruise with MS stack) and found them to be very useful and reliable so far. But the may be overkill for simply turning Bluetooth on and off. VJVolubilis (http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJVolubilis) may give you what you want but it looks to be only compatible with the MS stack too.
SoftCoder
donzeze said:
hi, I have made a small application to retreive nmea information from my bluetooth GPS on my HTC Tytn phone ( wm6 )
I developped it using microsoft visual studio 2008 pro avec wm6 pro sdk.
I would like to include a button to activate/desactivate the bluetooth from my application, any idear how I could do that plz ?
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Would like to help, but I like to work on your code. So if you can post it then I will see if I could put these buttons on
I want to listen to FM Radio using X1 but I don't want to use the resource hungry Panel Manager. So I wonder if:
1. there any way to run the built in FM Panel as a seperate application?
2. any program (such as FM Radio program in other HTC devices) could be used to listen to FM Radio other than the build in FM Panel?
ahlok_hk said:
I want to listen to FM Radio using X1 but I don't want to use the resource hungry Panel Manager. So I wonder if:
1. there any way to run the built in FM Panel as a seperate application?
2. any program (such as FM Radio program in other HTC devices) could be used to listen to FM Radio other than the build in FM Panel?
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fmradio.cab
Search on raphael forums.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2904133&postcount=77
As posted by floordust, install that cab, and you can use original radio as simple application.
It works! Thanks all.
I need this fmradio.cab
Guys do you have this for download ? FM Radio app without Panel ? Pls help me!
the link a few posts up is directly to the cab!
That app is pretty sweet and much more covenient than the radio panel. I have been using it for a lot of time.
I have two identical balckstone, loaded with energy WM 6.5
Under the same identical conditions one of them can get GPS signal (I am using Garmin XT and I am in Bali, Indonesia)
The other one cannot link the GOS signal. I have tried many applications like
- chartcross GPS test
- HTC GPSTool
- QuickGPS
Garmin appl says GPS is OFF
The testing software say cannot link the GPS
It seems that there is a hardware faulty, but before I confirm that, can somebody suggest other good GPS tools, so I further my testings?
Thanks
Saulo
my both Blackstones Touch HD are equipped as follows:
- OS version 5.2.23016
- Windows Mobile 6.5
- Energy ROM
on the faulty phone, none of the GPS default tools can link the GPS
Thanks and waiting for suggestions....
Saulo
saulo866 said:
my both Blackstones Touch HD are equipped as follows:
- OS version 5.2.23016
- Windows Mobile 6.5
- Energy ROM
on the faulty phone, none of the GPS default tools can link the GPS
Thanks and waiting for suggestions....
Saulo
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Try to install a new Radio ROM
The last official WWE ROM which has Microsoft Bluetooth stack is Topaz ROM, both for WM6.1 (21042) and WM6.5 (21887). HTC Tachi also has MS bluetooth stack but this is not WWE. Thereafter all I can see that HTC shipped with Broadcom bluetooth stack.
Anyone know if there are more ROM with MS bluetooth stack? I haven't looked at Omnia2 and Sony Xperia ROMs.
Wowser, are you saying that the Topaz actually can use both the MS stack and the Broadcomm stack? Man, I've been trying to put the Broadcomm stack onto my Touch Pro, I think it really is possible now. Thanks!
It is not that easy as moving few files (I know, too bad ). I want MS bluetooth stack on my HD2, as it supports Bluetooth Mouse profile and with proper software it can show you cursor . Plus it has better A2DP sound and less c*aps out.
I have here also HP HX4700 that supports it and uses Widcomm /Broadcomm?/ BT stack, it has some kind of plugin for that. But I doubt it is compatible anyway, as this one is rather old (4 - 6 years).
OndraSter said:
It is not that easy as moving few files (I know, too bad ). I want MS bluetooth stack on my HD2, as it supports Bluetooth Mouse profile and with proper software it can show you cursor . Plus it has better A2DP sound and less c*aps out.
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I actually think it's easier to put the MS stack onto another device than the Widcomm one. What you need is a device like the Topaz with the registry settings for OEMDrivers (for example Serial_btur**.dll) as well as a WM build that has the MS stack, and it should work. Of course what I'm trying to do is add the widcomm stack, so it might not be as easy as it sounds ^_^;
Xperia X1 is one of devices with ms stack.
as well as a WM build that has the MS stack
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SYS build doesn't matter btw (if you don't delete anything from it).
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SYS build doesn't matter btw (if you don't delete anything from it).
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For a complete bluetooth experience, it's crucial to have the original "bluetooth" in the "Common" folder (OSKitchen). For example, I've worked with HTC builds that did not include that folder, thus breaking stuff like PAN visibility (because Broadcomm controlled that).
So, I've been looking through some Topaz ROMs, but I can't seem to find any with the Broadcomm stack. These are the ones I have tried:
Code:
RUU_Topaz_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.40.707.1_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship
RUU_Topaz_S2_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.53.707.4_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship
HTCPUREATTOriginalShipROM
I don't have a legendary connection speed, and thus I don't have the capacity to try them all, but which ones include the Broadcomm stack?
The list of ROMs I am able to get:
Code:
xda-diamond2-v2-16-207-3.exe
RUU_Topaz_HTC_RUS_1.39.411.1_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_SPA_2.53.412.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Citrine_TMO_DE_2.13.111.3_radio_sign_topaz_61.42tc.25.31_4.49.25.05_ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_WWE_2.53.405.5_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_PTG_2.53.410.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
HTC_Touch Diamond2_RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_SPA_2.53.412.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_FRA_2.53.406.4_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
Topaz_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.39.479.1_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.rar
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_NLD_2.53.404.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
mda_compact_v.exe
RUU_Topaz_S_HTC_SPA_2.16.412.1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_SVE_2.53.413.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
HTCPUREATTOriginalShipROM.exe
RUU_Topaz_HTC_SPA_1.39.412.0_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S_Vodafone_DE_2.16.162.3_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_DAN_2.53.403.5_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_HTC_FRA_1.39.406.0_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S_Telstra_WWE_2.31.841.6_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.39tc.25.30_4.48.25.20_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_HTC_ITA_1.39.408.1_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_NOR_2.53.409.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S_HTC_Asia_WWE_2.17.707.1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_ITA_2.53.408.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_2.53.479.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_HTC_WWE_1.39.405.2_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_Dopod_CHS_1.75.706.4_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.27t.25.23_3.45.25.21_Ship_R1.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_TUR_2.53.468.2_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_RUS_2.53.411.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.53.421.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
HTC Touch Diamond2_RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_SPA_2.53.412.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S_Vodafone_DE_2.16.162.1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_HTC_GER_1.39.407.1_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19DE_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HKCSL_CHT_2.53.832.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_ELL_2.53.482.4_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HTC_GER_2.53.407.6_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_hTC_Asia_TW_2.53.709.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_hTC_Asia_India_de3G_WWE_2.54.1300.2_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44c.25.33_2.49.25.204_ESM7206A_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_hTC_Asia_WWE_2.53.707.4_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_S2_HKCSL_WWE_2.53.831.3_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.44etc.25.35_4.49.25.91_Ship.exe
RUU_Topaz_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.40.707.1_Radio_Signed_Topaz_61.20t.25.10_3.43.25.19_Ship.exe
I can't delete posts? >_>
If its possible to get the MS stack working on the HD2 I would be a very happy bunny. I moved from a Blackstone to a HD2 and although the speed increase was fantastic there are some annoying issues and Bluetooth is the biggest. Other than the speed I was really happy with the Blackstone and everything just worked - slowly but worked...
Andy
ultrashot said:
Xperia X1 is one of devices with ms stack.
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Do Xperia X1 official ROMs have higher build number then offical Topaz ROMs? I am trying to salvage the missing SYS parts for ROM cooking.
SYS/Bluetooth
SYS/Bluetooth_0409