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anybody seen this
great UI
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/30/video-iswish-puts-the-iphone-ui-on-any-windows-mobile-phone/
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looks interesting thanks for the info
Wow
Hope it will work perfectly on my prophet (Old machine)
can't wait
I think that something similar already exists...
You can find it here on XDA....
fake zooming
btw, the zooming with the two fingers is not really true, they are faking it by sliding only one finger and fixing the other, as far as i know, it needs hardware support that is not available on phones other than the iphone.
I'm not sure if our HTC phones can handle this, especially without driver support .
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btw, the zooming with the two fingers is not really true, they are faking it by sliding only one finger and fixing the other, as far as i know, it needs hardware support that is not available on phones other than the iphone.
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I agree with that. Doesn't the iphone have something like a multi-touchscreen? I don't think that HTC devices have something similar. But wait... what about the Touch
The picture zooming thing can be done just as effectively with Eye-Photo and is it me or does the theme selection stuff look very like A_C's configuration for S2U
AthenaLod said:
btw, the zooming with the two fingers is not really true, they are faking it by sliding only one finger and fixing the other, as far as i know, it needs hardware support that is not available on phones other than the iphone.
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http://www.flicksoftware.com/research/index_files/Page375.htm
From their website:
At a very low level the multiple touches of a normal touch screen device (i.e. not the iPhone) are masked. Our development team thinks we can make inferences from the data and simulate multi-touch.
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· Detects multi-touch on a single-touch screen device.
· Shrinks and grows the image based on the fingers motion.
· Supports the flick and toss effect
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That is for their iZoom app. I assume they use that with iSwish. Who knows how effective it is.
I have sign up for the beta. We'll see the truth soon enough.
I just signed up too, i been using Ifonz for last few weeks, and that is rather good, if you have good skins and stuff for programs installed. this should be even betterstill.
woohooooo....
I'm gonna have to say, enough with all the damn iSh*t piling up around these forums.
Wonder when the folks from apple gonna jump the gun
aberz said:
Wonder when the folks from apple gonna jump the gun
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lol theres nothing apple can really bust them for, I'd like to see them try and say that they stole Multitouch from them (enough of the people out there believe apple invented multitouch ((or touchscreens)) anyway).
New iZoom video for iSwish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icOMJuuWePY
It bugs me that every theme has something that another doesnt, so it makes it hard to decide. this is cool, I like the wiggly effect. Is this gonna cost money? A neat program.
I WANT ISWISH NOW! Can somebody post there demo version here (if it was EVER released)?
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Very interesting!!!
I have seen this a long time ago and it really does not interest me. It does not really look like the IPhone interface nor act like it. Sure it has some of the same features; however, there are many PPC apps out there that are far superior and many of the cool IPhone features can be found on seperate PPC Apps - Such as AC's S2 apps. Personally I prefer ultimate launch and use IPhone icons on one of my pages - I was able to make one page look like the IPhone however, can switch to my htc home - Weather panel plugin, Calendar and appointments plugin. I love this setup much better then any IPhone setup. The Iphone setup is too confining - stuck with one look - (Besides changing themes) - My setup - I have five completely different and unique pages all with their own plugins and shortcuts and different style icons and at a glance information / data using the various plugins installed on these pages.
The features - multi touch - Not available on any PPC yet - Possibly on some of the new ones to be released with WM7 I have been told.
My favorite thing about the IPhone is the size of the screen and that can not be duplicated using software. I am waiting for a WM PPC to come out with a large screen like the IPhones - Hopefully with Multi - touch capabilities (Because I want this too)
Hi im wondering if there are any iphone style gimicky apps available, because im unsure on which new phone i should choose, i have narrowed it down to the iphone, the G1 and the X1. If there are any fun apps availble i would moer than likley purchase the X1. I would really like to see something like this http://www.khmerlife.com/Forum/Thread.aspx?ThreadID=14480&Page=1#PostID377774 ,i have tried this game and is very fun.
Thanks for replies
How app
Don't know of something like this for WM, but there are other (At times NOT FREE) apps that are quite hot. I can use my phone as WLAN Router for instance. If it gets stolen, I can track it with builtin GPS. So there you have your game, but this time you are the Zombie Leave your phone on the ground and hunt down the first who is unlucky enoguh to steal it
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Leave your phone on the ground and hunt down the first who is unlucky enoguh to steal it
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Haha, great idea
But for sure, I would also L O V E more Iphone like apps. I can't understand why all of the apps on Iphone are so much more good looking, and why there are a lot more cool (but unnecesary in most cases ) apps for it? I know the audience is a lot bigger and that there is more money to earn, but still
If you just want it to imitate the iPhone, there's the iPhone style panel, here:
ftp://spikedsoftware.co.uk/XperiaX1/PANELS/X1_Panel_Iphone.CAB
It gives you big rounded square buttons that look like the ones on the iPhone, but beware. Many of them dont work, and upon closer inspection, it doesnt look at much like the iphone. Also, it only displays properly in portrait mode. I wouldnt recommend this one, bit if that's what you want, give it a try.
I've also heard of an iphone imitator called iFone or something like that for Windows mobile. Not sure if it works on Xperia since I havent tried it, but if it does, I'm willing to bet it's better than that other thing.
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But for sure, I would also L O V E more Iphone like apps. I can't understand why all of the apps on Iphone are so much more good looking, and why there are a lot more cool (but unnecesary in most cases ) apps for it? I know the audience is a lot bigger and that there is more money to earn, but still
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Looking good but not necessary, as you said it. In WM you can set your wallpaper. That's looking good. Applications are mostly necessary. One point to get an X1: You could install a 3D navigation software with voice directions (If you pay the 100 bucks or simply crack it, which is what I did). Does that beat an iPhone with freaking Google Maps?!?
Personally I bought this phone because its nothing like the Iphone. I look at Iphone vs. X1 the same way as mac vs. pc, a mac is nice and cute and you can get all kinds of software for it, but you can never really tweak it internally, whereas with a pc you can replace its guts choose your own case, and generally have a lot more tweakability (tho this also occasionally leads to slightly less stability as there are more variables to consider).
With the Iphone you get a smooth interface and lots of cutsey apps lots of which cost money all are regulated and aquired thru apple, whereas with the X1 you have this amazing site where you can find everything from ROM's, to icons, to apps and panels, to reg and other tweaks to make it act exactly the way that suits you best. Granted in the mod process you may come across some bouts of instability, but its the price we pay for making something truly personal.
Also how many people did you see talking on an Iphone today? an X1? I like having a phone that I don't see in everyone else's hands, makes me feel special. Just my 2 cents.
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Looking good but not necessary, as you said it. In WM you can set your wallpaper. That's looking good. Applications are mostly necessary. One point to get an X1: You could install a 3D navigation software with voice directions (If you pay the 100 bucks or simply crack it, which is what I did). Does that beat an iPhone with freaking Google Maps?!?
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Let's just say WM has the ability to look like (or be) an iPhone. Can't say that about the iPhone
I agree with Firefall, and you can do a lot more with an WM phone (imo)..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5F0Ruzwos8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xMUEhFBJ8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa1zvj5YDy4
The final installment of the epic battle: iPhone vs HTC Hero, iPhone OS vs Android, Apple vs Google ... Whose cuisine will reign supreme? Noah gives his opinion, anyway.
The real question is where is WINMO here and our beloved SE X1?
I think nobody doubt's that the UI of the X1 is not the best. If it would be that good, why would such a lot of people install Manila or Titanium. You cannot describe the Panel-thingy as real UI because it hasn't been pushed forward by SE. There are to be honest no useful new panels since months. The only thing SE does now is selling SPB MS3 e.g. in Korea as X1-UI.
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I think nobody doubt's that the UI of the X1 is not the best. If it would be that good, why would such a lot of people install Manila or Titanium. You cannot describe the Panel-thingy as real UI because it hasn't been pushed forward by SE. There are to be honest no useful new panels since months. The only thing SE does now is selling SPB MS3 e.g. in Korea as X1-UI.
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I'm in Korea. trust me it sucks. Slower than ever, full of bloatware and corporate advertisement, and no english options.
apple's ui on both iphone and computer is way above the line, no doubt about it, apple just need to add a hardware keyboard, full multitasking abilities with 3rd party apps without having to install another 3rd party app for this purpose, and a few more goodies to win me over, god knows i hate to use onscreen keyboards
Hero Sense UI looks sexy, makes u wonder if its really android
"iPhone 3GS vs HTC Hero" where does the x1 come into it
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apple's ui on both iphone and computer is way above the line, no doubt about it, apple just need to add a hardware keyboard, full multitasking abilities with 3rd party apps without having to install another 3rd party app for this purpose, and a few more goodies to win me over
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Haha, this "just" things is ****..ng alot man!
lol yea, the iphone is a good device dont get me wrong lol, but its just not good enough for me, imagine if i had it with my x1, i think i'd only use it for games...i dont think i would ever buy a device without a hardware keyboard, and to know that i cant minimize an app to use another, hmmm i doubt that too...
That's what I mean.
Fruit misses alot.
Yet another iPhone casualty
This is so frustrating that it's funny. I think the first TRUE iPhone competition (meaning: a great highly-refined user experience, online software/music downloads, smooth running, etc.), will come from Microsoft and WM7 with it's app store and Zune capability. Everything on the market up until then, I have a strong feeling, will come up short like the HTC Hero and Palm Pre does. This is not to say there won't be great phones, but, pound-for-pound, it'll take Microsoft and a hardware partner to come up with a TRUE iphone competitor.
It's amazing how the new superior features of the HTC Hero still fell flat in the face of the aging iPhone GUI. It was very obvious in the videos. The true iPhone competitor will have iTunes equivalent, AppStore competition, ultra-smooth GUI (don't give me BS about so-called upcoming software optimizations ). MS could one up Apple by including total voice control of the phone, XBox games, Zune features, fully integrated Bing voice search, etc.
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Yet another iPhone casualty
This is so frustrating that it's funny. I think the first TRUE iPhone competition (meaning: a great highly-refined user experience, online software/music downloads, smooth running, etc.), will come from Microsoft and WM7 with it's app store and Zune capability. Everything on the market up until then, I have a strong feeling, will come up short like the HTC Hero and Palm Pre does. This is not to say there won't be great phones, but, pound-for-pound, it'll take Microsoft and a hardware partner to come up with a TRUE iphone competitor.
It's amazing how the new superior features of the HTC Hero still fell flat in the face of the aging iPhone GUI. It was very obvious in the videos. The true iPhone competitor will have iTunes equivalent, AppStore competition, ultra-smooth GUI (don't give me BS about so-called upcoming software optimizations ). MS could one up Apple by including total voice control of the phone, XBox games, Zune features, fully integrated Bing voice search, etc.
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WM 7 could do that I think.
And future integration is a must too.
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WM 7 could do that I think.
And future integration is a must too.
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...and forget about compatibility with previous WM versions. They need to start completely fresh.
Uh.....
So, you want to compare a sub par feature phone with no real OS and a smartphone with a promising OS to a full mobile computer??? HAHAHAHAHA
Right.....
VelikiMeshtar said:
iPhone.... iPhone OS......... Apple.......
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...and forget about compatibility with previous WM versions. They need to start completely fresh.
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Not neccesarily but possibly.
^^^ a little file compatibility, and that should be it. I don't think MS should bog itself down with legacy code compatibility.
And since MS isn't making the hardware, they need to get really specific and strict on the variety of WM hardware being created. I think when software developers have to account for too many different form factors, the user experience gets watered down.
ebooksmart said:
I'm in Korea. trust me it sucks. Slower than ever, full of bloatware and corporate advertisement, and no english options.
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Delete the spbmobileshell.txt file in /Program Files/SPB Mobile Shell. After rebooting, the UI will be in English.
somehow i cant see anyone being accustom to using the 480x800 resolution will resort to the iphone(unless the resolution is increased in the next model), its true the iphone has millions of colors, but damn, i hate being able to see the pixels on a phone, i actually made a guy jealous yesterday after he saw the resolution on my SEX1...the iphone still has some catching up to do before i switch, but as i said before, the os has the best gui...everyone knows, apple scores big when it comes to their OS GUI (including the OS in general)
also note, those who claim the iphone is faster than the x1
it takes like a 1.5 -2 second delay to open stock apps on the iphone, on my x1 only a few 3rd party apps takes this long
now the 3g s is out, that should be compared to the x2, still i doubt the iphone 3g s can outrun the xperia
if SE had to open a store selling the x1 housing for at least $25 USD, i dont think i would be selling my x1, because its the best damn device out there right now despite the lack of games for the resolution
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somehow i cant see anyone being accustom to using the 480x800 resolution will resort to the iphone(unless the resolution is increased in the next model), its true the iphone has millions of colors, but damn, i hate being able to see the pixels on a phone, i actually made a guy jealous yesterday after he saw the resolution on my SEX1...the iphone still has some catching up to do before i switch, but as i said before, the os has the best gui...everyone knows, apple scores big when it comes to their OS GUI (including the OS in general)
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Yes, the WVGA screen is really impressive. I think iPhone is stuck at it's lower resolution because it uses capacitive touch technology. Capacitive doesn't allow the precision of the resistive technology of the X1. You'll notice that the Hero with it's capacitive screen is also lo-res.
No one can see the difference between 16M colors and 65K unless you're looking at gradients. Besides, the iPhone screen only has 153600 pixels...where the hell are you going to fit 16million colors?
also note, those who claim the iphone is faster than the x1
it takes like a 1.5 -2 second delay to open stock apps on the iphone, on my x1 only a few 3rd party apps takes this long
now the 3g s is out, that should be compared to the x2, still i doubt the iphone 3g s can outrun the xperia
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Sorry, you're going to need to prove that one. Many of my friends have iPhones, and the first thing you notice when using one is how fast and fluid it's response is. You have to take into account, iPhone has multitasking disabled AND it has a faster CPU (600 or so MHz I think) AND GUI optimized OS. Maybe programs take the same amount of time to load as X1, but, they flow so much smoother. Even smooth apps on the X1 such as YouTube, PhoneEx, CNN panel still are not as quick and smooth as the iPhone.
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Sorry, you're going to need to prove that one. Many of my friends have iPhones, and the first thing you notice when using one is how fast and fluid it's response is. You have to take into account, iPhone has multitasking disabled AND it has a faster CPU (600 or so MHz I think) and GUI optimized OS.
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He doesn't have to prove anything, because my X1 is faster than an iCrap as well.
Sorry, you're going to need to prove that one. Many of my friends have iPhones, and the first thing you notice when using one is how fast and fluid it's response is. You have to take into account, iPhone has multitasking disabled AND it has a faster CPU (600 or so MHz I think) and GUI optimized OS.
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did that yesterday dude, windows calender on my x1 opens faster then the iphone ical
note that this guy does not have any 3rd party apps on his iphone
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He doesn't have to prove anything, because my X1 is faster than an iCrap as well.
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I'm sure there are tons of comparison videos on YouTube. Show me one that has the X1 being faster and more fluid than iPhone.
And I'm talking overall, not just one particular program's load time.
Seems that WinMo lack of good stuffs... You know that WinMo based devices are equipped with touch screen, but why. WHY even the same app, the iPhone one got really nice GUI than WinMo one?
Try to google some apps that available on both iPhone and WinMo. Even though they got same functionality, the iPhone one got nicer GUI than WinMo.
The WinMo one always got SUCK GUI... That's really not right...
and I hope the first answer isn't just: Buy iPhone instead of complaining. And if you call yourselves a bunch of good programmer then make a program with nice interface like iPhone's apps instead of ordinary conventional WinMo apps...
the only ewplanation dude is that WM phones are corporate oriented instead of the Iphone.
Apple also spend lot of money in advertising to let people know about the iphone and hire lots of sbcontractors in order to develop games and apps.... so that is why lots of programmer and designer are working with the Iphone...
But I think this is going to change in the next future as HTC finally understood that the need to spent money on advertising
Nice answer... thanks... ^^
But, you know moTweets right?
The super cheap Twitter client (only US$3.99) that Panoramic Software developed.
It has a very nice GUI like iPhone, got complete and perfectly-working feature as well.
And this morning I asked Panoramic to develop Facebook application as well, since there is no single good/decent Facebook application for WinMo yet.
I asked them to make Facebook application for WinMo with nice GUI like moTweets and the functionality like Facebook for BlackBerry.
And here's their answer to my idea (we had conversation via Twitter) @PanoramicSoft: "We will definitely consider creating a Facebook app for WinMo. Thanks."
So, just tweet them and give them a vote.
They're surveying whether they need to develop this app or not.
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And this morning I asked Panoramic to develop Facebook application as well, since there is no single good/decent Facebook application for WinMo yet.
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Yes there is. Microsoft developed one.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/facebook.mspx
Yup, I'm aware of that software. But is it a good one? It just a failure I think. Can't even load the NewsFeed properly, need manual refresh to get the current feed. What I mean is: the one that got feature like BlackBerry's Facebok program and nice iPhone-like GUI.
And forgot to tell you. Do you notice that Microsoft's Facebook app just stuck at 1.0.0.7p with no future development?
Me, personally won't count it a program, its a complete failure and crap that Microsoft released to fulfill user's demand for Facebook app. Am I wrong? ^^
Cheers... ^^
Hy,
i think that apple has a brilliant marketing strategie for iphone. But not more!!!
No, you're wrong. We, as a bunch of good developer, surely can make programs like iPhone one. isn't the GUI just a drawings after all? If we can skin our ordinary apps into something eyecatching like iPhone's app, then why not?
You know the fact: Blackberry got nice working Facebook app, iPhone also got one. What about our so called legendary OS WinMo? The oldest even before iPhone. Not even single decent Facebook app!!!
Am I wrong?
If you count the Microsoft's Facebook app as the good one, then I guess it can't be helped. But I'm really not satisfied with that not-working program.
Some men see things as they are and say why - I dream things that never were and say why not.
Since the first reply was not just go get an Iphone, this reply should be good enough. Just get an Iphone then
Well, WM is much older, so most apps out there are still ugly and stylus-dependent.
Also it was first made for businessmen, not the common user, we just adapted it to our needs with TONS of amateur freeware here.
And since the iPhone is new (and because of that, vastly superior on video card and CPU), there arent ppl around with old hardware.
And dont get me started on the games department... stop making frikking puzzles and start making quakes!
I think the main issue is the SDK. There are a lot of easy libraries for the iPhone that make it easy to make a nice looking program for the iPhone. WinMo is starting to add some nicer looking buttons and stuff to it's library, so hopefully around WM7 time, people will be creating stuff on an equal scale.
The other big issue for WinMo as opposed to iPhone, is that when you are devoloping for the iPhone, you only have 1 screen size, and 1 hardware spec to deal with. With WinMo, you have to account for all of the different phones and different hardware.
Where is this nice GUI for the iPhone you have been talking about? I have yet to see anything but a bunch of icon for a GUI?
So if you look at these two images you would chose the iPhone GUI over the WinMobile one? Long story short, we can make our WinMobile's look like an iPhone but can they make there iPhone's look like WinMobile? Yes there is a lot of new cool stuff out there for iPhone as far as apps go but how much of it is free and how much of it is actually useful?
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Where is this nice GUI for the iPhone you have been talking about? I have yet to see anything but a bunch of icon for a GUI?
So if you look at these two images you would chose the iPhone GUI over the WinMobile one? Long story short, we can make our WinMobile's look like an iPhone but can they make there iPhone's look like WinMobile? Yes there is a lot of new cool stuff out there for iPhone as far as apps go but how much of it is free and how much of it is actually useful?
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that's android, not WM
I agree totaly with TS. All the winmobile applications looks like crap, they look the same they did like 4-5 years ago, there is a "arcade pack" for touch pro, and seriously I think nintendo 8bit has better graphics. Every application always looks like crap games look and work like crap. You guys always say that HTC phones are mostly made for office people but seriously have many of you actully are office people and not techis like me? I love the htc phones, the idea of having a mobile with windows is teh ****. I think winmobile phones could be 100% better then Iphone, it's been around alot longer then iphone, iphone has been around for 2 years and it kicks htc's asssss!
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that's android, not WM
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The phone in the pic may be android but, my phone looks just like this and it is not android.
Here is a link to my work. http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15732
with windows mobile u can multi-task.
there is developer freedom in the winmo world. u can get a cab from xda and install as opposed to the facist apple world.
most winmo apps are free.
nuff said.
i will not deny that winmo applications look like a telnet window, but we are slowly getting there. im expecting a lot from winmo 6.5 and 7. 7 might just even be the best smartphone os out there will multi touch, finger friendly ui and a great development platform. not to mention microsoft is really giving good incentives for the market place so that should kick off well too.
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The phone in the pic may be android but, my phone looks just like this and it is not android.
Here is a link to my work. http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15732
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I dont see the likness in of an android thou it looks really good. But i like touchflo3d, you got everything integrated like musicplayer etc.
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I dont see the likness in of an android thou it looks really good. But i like touchflo3d, you got everything integrated like musicplayer etc.
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Agreed! I think so too!
This argument isn't over which platform is better for everyday use, it's only about the UI of applications. There's no doubt, the *average* program on the iPhone looks a lot better than the *average* program on WM.
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Well, WM is much older, so most apps out there are still ugly and stylus-dependent.
Also it was first made for businessmen, not the common user, we just adapted it to our needs with TONS of amateur freeware here.
And since the iPhone is new (and because of that, vastly superior on video card and CPU), there arent ppl around with old hardware.
And dont get me started on the games department... stop making frikking puzzles and start making quakes!
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But now, it's used as a standard PDA-Phone instead of businessman.
And most of my friend use WinMo PDAs like TP2, but they only use it for game, facebook, and stuffs.
About hardware, the iPhone's hardware isn't better than today's PDA. Well, the big issue maybe the VGA driver. Today's WinMo isn't equipped with decent VGA drivers. But, blame on the PDA's maker for it.
And about game, I totally agree with you. Stop making those card and tetris game. That's why WinMo isn't well developed. Developers just need to start making those 3D games like -again- iPhone's. There's no better games than iPhone's.
We got far more superior hardware, but why? Why ppl never utilize it? They only make those card and tetris and puzzle game. 2D ugly boring game.
And one question: Can the devs just make a new app with futuristic GUI? Again: Panoramic's moTweets got nice GUI. iPhone like GUI indeed.
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I think the main issue is the SDK. There are a lot of easy libraries for the iPhone that make it easy to make a nice looking program for the iPhone. WinMo is starting to add some nicer looking buttons and stuff to it's library, so hopefully around WM7 time, people will be creating stuff on an equal scale.
The other big issue for WinMo as opposed to iPhone, is that when you are devoloping for the iPhone, you only have 1 screen size, and 1 hardware spec to deal with. With WinMo, you have to account for all of the different phones and different hardware.
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About screen, I guess you're right. But what I'm talking about isn't the screen size. It's about make those button image looks futuristic and more eye catching. It's about art and graphic design right?
And not to speak bad about MS. I simply lost faith in MS. MS' simple program, their Facebook program for example, can you count it as a good program?
Isn't that just a matter of making the graphics? Is it really need a SDK to create those graphics?
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Where is this nice GUI for the iPhone you have been talking about? I have yet to see anything but a bunch of icon for a GUI?
So if you look at these two images you would chose the iPhone GUI over the WinMobile one? Long story short, we can make our WinMobile's look like an iPhone but can they make there iPhone's look like WinMobile? Yes there is a lot of new cool stuff out there for iPhone as far as apps go but how much of it is free and how much of it is actually useful?
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Yes, its the ICON and buttons and sort of that things actually needed in WinMo's apps.
You see that we got far more superior hardware than iPhone. But why wasting that resource?
As developers, we can make something useful (not like a bunch of useless crap in iPhone) but in such an artistic way. Just replace those old button with glossy button and more futuristic shape. Isn't that just a matter of making the graphics? Is it really need a SDK to create those graphics?
Another example: Palringo messaging got nice GUI as well. So y'all know I'm not promoting moTweets.
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I agree totaly with TS. All the winmobile applications looks like crap, they look the same they did like 4-5 years ago, there is a "arcade pack" for touch pro, and seriously I think nintendo 8bit has better graphics. Every application always looks like crap games look and work like crap. You guys always say that HTC phones are mostly made for office people but seriously have many of you actully are office people and not techis like me? I love the htc phones, the idea of having a mobile with windows is teh ****. I think winmobile phones could be 100% better then Iphone, it's been around alot longer then iphone, iphone has been around for 2 years and it kicks htc's asssss!
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Yup, I'm totally agree with you also.
This all WinMo's apps are great programs but with crap GUI, in fact this nowadays WinMo's app GUI is like WinMo 2003 app GUI.
And you got my point.
k.electron said:
with windows mobile u can multi-task.
there is developer freedom in the winmo world. u can get a cab from xda and install as opposed to the facist apple world.
most winmo apps are free.
nuff said.
i will not deny that winmo applications look like a telnet window, but we are slowly getting there. im expecting a lot from winmo 6.5 and 7. 7 might just even be the best smartphone os out there will multi touch, finger friendly ui and a great development platform. not to mention microsoft is really giving good incentives for the market place so that should kick off well too.
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How slow, even Microsoft don't have any good intention to upgrade such a small program like their Facebook program. And I really laugh about WinMo 7. More bugs will come while the old bugs still there.
The WinMo 7 will got nice GUI indeed, but we're talking about the apps. Take the SMS app for example. It just like the oooolllllldddd WinMo's SMS GUI. Look at iPhone's one. Even though we got threading SMS as well but the INTERFACE is really ugly.
Am I wrong?
WoZZeR999 said:
This argument isn't over which platform is better for everyday use, it's only about the UI of applications. There's no doubt, the *average* program on the iPhone looks a lot better than the *average* program on WM.
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Yes, that's what I'm talking about. You get my idea. I'm comparing the apps and the GUI especialy.
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The question is: Is it really hard to make a good buttons and icons and you know; just to mention a few of it: some nice messaging box, glossy and round-edged button, transparent icon, remove the left-right and up-down old navigation bar that used for scrolling and replace it with kinetic-scrolling, etc etc..
Okay here I am setting myself up to be flamed - you see I don't understand what the beef is with Windows Mobile 6.5? I know it is a bit of a gloss job and that there is room for improvement but what is so intrinsically wrong with it that so many people are screaming about it...is it so unusable, or unstable - I know it is not the Apple OS and that I have to say may have its upsides. But what is the big problem.
So go for it shout at me - call me ignorant - but if you can enlighten me please do.
I am about to get an HD2 and am looking forward to the whole experience.
Scott
It looks kinda ugly (not fingerfriendly, no animations), misses APIs for the hardware in modern devices and the UI controls provided by Visual studio are ugly as well, making software development for WM sometimes difficult.
That's it. The list of good things about WM is a lot longer.
All in all, there's nothing wrong with WM except for its reputation in the blogosphere.
It has its pros and cons like every other phone OS. None of them is perfect and iPhone OS or Android are not better than WM at all. They're just different, less powerful but easier to use.
freyberry said:
It looks kinda ugly (not fingerfriendly, no animations), misses APIs for the hardware in modern devices and the UI controls provided by Visual studio are ugly as well, making software development for WM sometimes difficult.
That's it. The list of good things about WM is a lot longer.
All in all, there's nothing wrong with WM except for its reputation in the blogosphere.
It has its pros and cons like every other phone OS. None of them is perfect and iPhone OS or Android are not better than WM at all. They're just different, less powerful but easier to use.
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and alot more popular. iPhone has the famous app store, with about 1000 quality games and 5000 quality apps.
I had no difficulties finding equivalents for every application when I switched away from the iPhone. WM has 30.000 applications as well.
But popularity is a problem.
I for one am so bored of the apple lovers saying get an Iphone over the hd2. If you want an iphone just get one, its a decent phone if thats what you want. WM6.5 isnt the most finger friendly OS but i think the big/only limitation for the hd2 is the fact it doesnt support our hardware very well in the kernel (which hasnt been updated since WM5 really), so to that end our device is only as slick as it is due to the massive overspec of the processor.
Yes WM7 will be better, but its certainly not a reason to wait and not buy a HD2. This forum has hundreds of threads in the leo section talking about iphone this and that, and frankly i am pretty sure i am not the only one sick of it.
I for one think WM6.5 on the HD2 is more than a decent OS, yes i dont interact with it directly that often but if i need to then i can at least get to the guts easily (file explorer/reg edit etc) which is way more difficult on other mobile platforms.
It isnt perfect but certianly isnt worth all of the chat thats going around atm.
I don't want an iphone and too am tired of the iphone zealots - I have been following the Leo since it was leaked it is the phone for me I just wanted to know what the big beef with WM 6.5 is.
I am currently using a BlackBerry Bold and it is a nice device but feel so limited beyond texting and emailing. But the HD2 that is a whole new ballgame.
Thanks for the feedback - I am looking forward to getting the phone in February.
Scott
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with 6.5 except its lack of finger friendlyness, which depending on what you use the phone for could be a positive or a negative. Its biggest drawback is the poor quality of the original phones gave it a bad press which certain tech websites have never let go.
Personally I have had WM phones since the Wizard and have used a number of different ones since. I also have a Hero and found Android very good but ultimately not as usable as WM6.1 or WM6.5. My current phone is a HD2 which beats the the Hero and the iPhone at virtually every everyday task it has been given. (even the Hero stood up very well against the iPhone).
As for apps, yet again the media seem to think the only way to get an app on your phone is through an app store - carefully ignoring the fact that WM has had apps since day 1, just not all available from one place.
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and alot more popular. iPhone has the famous app store, with about 1000 quality games and 5000 quality apps.
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FPMSL!!!!!!
Well, there might really be 6000 quality apps among those 110000.
That's 5.5%. If 20% of all WM applications are quality ones, then there's already more quality applications for WM than for the iPhone. Especially if you add PSX games that all work great on WM now
Don't take this too serious, I'm just having a bit of fun. There's lots of good applications for the iPhone, but I never missed anything when I switched (back) to WM.
While I have all of you to talk to - what is the best registry editor to get for my HD2? I also want to look at a task manager as well...
Any feedback much appreciated.
Scott
freyberry said:
Well, there might really be 6000 quality apps among those 110000.
That's 5.5%. If 20% of all WM applications are quality ones, then there's already more quality applications for WM than for the iPhone. Especially if you add PSX games that all work great on WM now
Don't take this too serious, I'm just having a bit of fun. There's lots of good applications for the iPhone, but I never missed anything when I switched (back) to WM.
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One thing I can not get about Iphone apps is fact they take normal app and call it something new and wonderful.
There is this app for iphone that splits the restaurant bill on to as many people as you want.
I thin on all other phones it is called a calculator and it can do so much more as well as is free.
Another example of stupid paid app is Ducati history app. Why pay I think £2.99 for it (BTW it still only works if you are online) when you can get the same at Ducati.com. Only reason I can think off is because Ducati site is flash based?!
UberScooter said:
While I have all of you to talk to - what is the best registry editor to get for my HD2? I also want to look at a task manager as well...
Any feedback much appreciated.
Scott
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Get resco explorer with regedit plugin. However I think full one you have to pay. For a free app there is PHM Registry editor:
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml
to edit registry of your winmo device via your laptop you will need active sync and CeRegeditor by mdSoft. It allows you to export keys you want and convert them in to cab installs so if you need to hard reset it is just click and go for all your registry tweaks.