Final words about Wireless on HD - Touch HD General

I'm not happy about Wireless reception on the HD, I was using one of these La Fonera routers as my home Hotspot with one 10db omnidireccional antenna on top of the house, it was working just fine, good signal inside the house and outside, even some neighbours use my connection, also my last pocket pc was one ETEN M700 and I had almost no problems connecting to the router.
Now with the HD I can only get stable connections with line of sight to the antenna, already tried different channels and b mode only, also changed the wireless setting to best performance on the HD and it improved only a little.
The strange thing is that the HD picks my WRT54GL wireless signal better than the other router signal, this is one router that's inside my house and the HD still picks it up better than the other router that has the outside antenna.
Now my theory is that the HD wireless driver isn't 100% compatible with atheros wireless chips.
Please help me and others to find if we can improve the wireless of the HD.
I would appreciate to have some feedback about the brands and models of routers.
Best regards

I've tried my HD with 2 different types of wireless routers.
With my cheap Netgear DG834G, it works perfectly. Range is very acceptable all round my house (which has solid old internal walls!) and even a way down the road. Streaming apps work just fine, for example listening to internet radio.
On the other hand, when I tried connecting to a friend's "Billion" brand router, it seemed a lot slower and generally a bit.. well, flakey.

From my experience, the wireless reception is acceptable. It's not going to be streaming those HD videos on Youtube but it satisfices my needs.
REception in home is 50% compared to 80 - 100% on my laptop.

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Wifi sucks on touch HD

When I first bought the touch HD I was thinking how good it would be to have this phone while having wifi with the lack of 3g for tmobile in the us, but it turns out that the wifi acutally suck! I have a iPod touch 2g And the wifi works great with blazing speed. I can't seem to detect my wifi at home mean while I'm connected on my wifi with my iPod. I been very disappoint with this phone for simple fact that this phone recieves wifi poorly. Anyone can help me out with this problem would be much appreciated because despite the wifi problem I love the phone cause the 3.8 screen is so damn sexual lol.
I've no such issues!
Try to set wifi power options to performance. Also, Enabling G Mode (with SKTools is one of the ways) helps improve speed.
Thanks for the info but it might be the lack of range of my router cause I have been on my wifi with the phone before but I get disconnected frequently and most the time it doesn't even show up or detect it but I don't have that problem with the iPod. With iPod I seem to get wifi everywhere. I'm starting to believe the iPod is better might sell it and get a iPhone or maybe a hero but don't know if I'm willing to spend 600+ on another phone
Next time put [rant] on the title
My wifi connects well to open, WEP, and WPA connections. I tried numerous access points (at least 30), even 802.11n APs in mixed g mode. It even connects to Apple Airport (802.11g). The connection is stable both on power saving and best performance, but I think I get much better speeds on average with best performance.
Its wifi range is much better than my little HP 613 smartphone, but again worse than my notebook. I get 54Mbit connection with signal quality of about 50% at 10 meters through a wall and then it automatically finds another channel on another AP. It roams (handover) APs better than some Lenovo r61 laptops around!
But I am not satisfied with its speed (even on best performance) - it finishes copying a 700MB file on a 54 Mbit connection in 30-40 minutes using total commander and saving on storage card. That means average speed is around 300-400KB/s - laptop does the same (same AP, same file, same network settings) at 1.6-1.8 MB/s in around 7 minutes.
I also noticed that saving on storage card is slighty faster than into the main memory...
I can't seem to detect my wifi at home mean while I'm connected on my wifi with my iPod.
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Hmm, are you sure that you don't compare two different situations ? Did you also try connecting to Wifi with your iPod while already being connected with your Blackstone ?
My personal experience shows me that the Touch HD seems to have a better radio than the iPhone 3G. Have you upgraded to the latest Blackstone stock ROM and radio available on the HTC website or XDA Devs ? Whether or not the radio also affects Wifi unfortunately I don't know.
Moreover, use WifiMonster to monitor the strength of the signal, it'll help you discover the best spots for using Wifi. I even receive Wifi signals from the neighbors' houses in my own house (not speaking about appartments), of course that always depends on the room !
BTW I'm pretty sure that a Hero won't solve your problem, it's the same old hardware specs as on the Blackstone.
The Wifi on my device works perfectly and i have had no issues at all with signal or quality. I have had more problems with my ipod than the HTC, are you sure its not the WIFI AP you are trying to connect to? Also are you using stock rom or custom?
I'm using the Energy ROM. I'm assume its my wifi signal its very weak and my touch hd cant seem to detect it. With my ipod i shows up and i can connect to it...will updating the radio make a difference?
I came across a startling discovery the other day regarding the Touch HD wifi. I was also having issues at home with weak wifi signal. I didn’t seem to have this problem with public access hot spots.
I have a Logitech wireless mouse connected to my computer and very rarely turn that computer off. I found that when my computer was off I would get a rock solid connection to my home wifi, but when the computer was on it would drop in and out. I narrowed it down to the wireless mouse was interfering with the Touch HD wifi connection.
I tried all different channels on my router, but as long as the Logitech mouse was plugged it I would get wifi dropouts. But as soon as I unplugged the mouse and the radio dongle, I wouldn’t have any problems with the Touch HD wifi.
I can’t comment if this is your issue, but something might be interfering in the 2.4Ghz with wifi.
Guys,
Sometimes even cordless phones, microwaves, etc will interfere with the connection.
Cheers.
As Poison Wolf correctly pointed out, other household items can interfere with the wireless frequency. Try changing the channel that's being used to transmit from your box (This will involve changing some settings on your wireless router so do some research before you fiddle around with it) I have had to do this before and can confirm it can make a massive difference.
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But I am not satisfied with its speed (even on best performance) - it finishes copying a 700MB file on a 54 Mbit connection in 30-40 minutes using total commander and saving on storage card. That means average speed is around 300-400KB/s - laptop does the same (same AP, same file, same network settings) at 1.6-1.8 MB/s in around 7 minutes.
I also noticed that saving on storage card is slighty faster than into the main memory...
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Everybody has this problem because the card seems not capable of more speed.
But it seems nearly nobody cares.
My old thread about his, no answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524272
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Everybody has this problem because the card seems not capable of more speed.
But it seems nearly nobody cares.
My old thread about his, no answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524272
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Stron,
Hmm, interesting. The only reasoning I can think of is that perhaps there's a limiting factor in order to reduce the heat or something? I don't see why they would cap the speeds.
Cheers.
What if it is capable of connecting at 54 Mbit, but can actually do only 11 Mbit? Nice trick. I hope it is just a bad idea.

can i use with a 802.11N router

hi all i have read that the htc hd2 with a reg edit can run wireless N but is this true, can i use with with a 802.11N router, or will it only work with a 802.11G router,
i need to know as i plan to buy a long range router for work so i can stream DI.FM radio to my htc from my pc and the distance is around 50meter so i want to buy the bets possible router so i can listen to the radio glitch free
info on work network:-
1) 6mb speed via a cable
2) approx 50meters from where i walk / work
It might work at 802.11N standard, but unless your broadband speed is greater than 54Mbs then you'll have nothing to gain. Your router should be backwards compatible to allow 802.11G connection which the HD2 definitely supports, this should be good for speeds up to 54Mbs dependant upon your connection quality.
You'd still get the benefit of greater range, which would in turn mean you'd get a stronger connection. Even a really strong wifi connection on my PS3 only gives me about 700KB/s, despite being on a 20Mb connection (which I can use fully on my wired PC).
I do think, however, that 50m is somewhat optimistic, despite the claims of how good the signal should be (I believe it claims to do 250m outdoors!)
I'd love to try this myself, but don't have a wireless-N router, so can't. I'd be very interested to hear how you get on with this.
Works with ~700kb/s*
I was sending data between laptop and phone with wifi only.
well im going to take my THOMSON TG585v7 i have for my home internet to work i got it with my bethere internet, for free of the provider so im going to try it and see what i get with this,
i have no idea how good this router is though
http://www.thomsonbroadbandpartner.com/dsl-modems-gateways/products/product-detail.php?id=161
it says Typical Indoor coverage: 60m
î use a BELKIN N1 http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/07_11_07N1Vision.html
and my HD2 has no problems connecting
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î use a BELKIN N1 http://www.belkin.com/pressroom/releases/uploads/07_11_07N1Vision.html
and my HD2 has no problems connecting
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how far indoors do you get a signal
router is downstairs and even when i'm upstairs i still get signal
Same. Got a Linksys WRT610N. With N-band enabled, not only is the signal strength better, but surfing the net and leeching YouTube vids just flies even though the Internet connection itself is only 12Mbps.
ok all ive decided to buy this for my work to send a N signal to my phone
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Edim...multi-function-wireless-access-point-repeater
my broadband speed is only 6mb at work but i just need the range so i hope this will get me at least 50meters walking distance lol.
Seems to only have 2 (small) antenna's though.
My Asus WL500W has 3 antenna's and has a great signal; whole house and garden covered.
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=nrsjewu78wdDXMOA
Running DD-WRT this beauty does it's job very well.
You could, if the signal is not strong enough or has to get through walls, consider getting a directional antenna to hook up to your router.
This will greatly increase the range.

HD2 low WiFi reception

Is it normal that my hd2 has lower wifi reception than my laptop? I mean, my router is in the living room and i have 4 to 5 Bars of wifi signal on my laptop in the bedroom, but i have only one bar on my HD2! There are two walls(one room) between living room and bedroom? I've try'd it at my friends house with his laptop and his router, it's the same thing.
Is it normal the phone to have lower reception or may i try to flash a new radio?
I'm using stock ROM 1.48 with radio 2.05.
Thanks in advance!
doesn't anybody have this problem?
My HD2 gets slightly less reception bars than my
laptop in the same location. Could be the way the meters are calibrated, but more likely the larger antenna in the laptop. With wireless N enabled my internet speed tests seem about the same with two bars as with three. Almost same with N disabled.
I have a linksys WRT54GL router and the HD2 gets low signal strength. Only about 7m away from the router and behind one wall. So I am not sure what is up. The router also has 7db antenna attached.
Laptops get much better signal strength. Not sure what the issue is.
A phone doesn't have the same amount of Power as a laptop nor the Antennas Range ... On my Laptop i get several WiFi Signals while on my HD2 I only get two... In the Same location
Could be that you need the wireless N enabled on your phone use the search option
Thanks for the tip about the wireless N enabled on the phone.
I understand that laptops have higher powered antennas. But even if I place the phone right next to the router it will not get 100% signal strength. It will go to maybe 50-60% tops. This is with the phone right next to the router.
Maybe a radio upgrade etc might be on order.
Will try the N enabled feature 1st, even though I use a G router.
try to remove the battery cover. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785907
antenna in your laptop will be much bigger and better located than the one in your phone
with a WRT54GL Router The Wireless-N Option will have no effect.
Your router only supports Wireless-G

[Q] WiFi signal issues

Just picked up my Desire HD today and it's a lovely phone.
However, the wifi connection is pitiful compared to anything else using my wifi. According to the Desire HD, the wifi signal is poor and it loses connection 6 metres away from the router whilst other devices (an iphone 4, an ipad and a laptop) say the signal is fine.
I have tried both holding the device and putting it on a table, so as to remove any antenna issues while moving away from the router.
Has anyone found this issue or should I expect wifi to be this poor? Is it something I could look into and get sorted?
Thx
Not seen a problem with mine. Got a Draytel router and all is fine anywhere in my house. Can you change wireless channels on the router?
Dave

Is this a normal iconia wifi signal?

Yay so I'm really happy about the iconia so far. The whole no acees to SD card through computer while connected to the computer will take some getting used to, but its the wifi that'll probably get this sent back. It's really bad. I've reset the connection half a dozen times since last night because it keeps hangin and can only downloads app when in the same room with the router.
Now the issue is that I'm laying beside the router now and getting 2 bars. If I sit up I get 3 bars. Yippee. The signal in the bedroom, on the first floor, get maybe 1 bar and I can't stream or download anything in there. I never get a great wifi signal in there', but its between 2 and 3 bars on my phone and netbook,. I wondered if there might be some interference so brought up the handy wifi analyzer and found 4 other wifi signals all on the first channel, so now my router is on channel 11. It didn't help any :-\
So if I exchange it, will the new unit possibly be an improvement? Is this just the way it is?
I noticed that the connection quality drops sharply the further away you are, but atleast on my tablet it still doesn't drop as sharply as in your case. I have the router here in living room and I get 65Mbps, everything works fine. Then if I move to bedroom or kitchen it drops to something around 20Mbps, yet it still works just fine.
What type of router do you use.I have a newer netgear with no issues my router is in the basement at front of house almost under the front porch.concrete ceiling above it. I can go out to my back yard approximately 200 feet and still get 1 bar and OK speed.I do notice. That the indicator bars do not exactly deplict your signal strength.
I also know there is a issue with some routers and the network card in this device I read in a thread long back.you have to turn off n or g feature I think it was.but do firmware update on router as well might help.not all routers are created equally Linksys sucks in my book. Lately
I can also see neighbors wifi signal but 1 bar they are 500 feet. Prob could not connect thou
Wish you lots of luck
hmmmmm
You could have a faulty Wi-Fi antenna ...
More likely, you are using a cheap router or a router with out of date firmware. Have you checked to make sure you have kept your router up to date with the latest firmware?
Also, have you tested this with other routers? If a multitude of routers show the same issue - you likely have a hardware problem with the a500 - if only your router shows this problem, then likely it is a problem with your local router.
a different unit MAY help, but I would try friends routers n such. My router blows but I can still stream Netflix no problem all the way across the house. I can't even do that on my laptop which has a beastly card. +1 for updating your router and device though, that might help.
Thanks for the replies. I have an old Motorola sbg900. I think I bought it 2 years ago. I have noticed that the iconia doesn't see as many networks as my phone does and the speedtest results are interesting. I left everything default in the app. By the router, I get 9 mb/s with the iconia vs 7 mb/s with the phone. In the bedroom, I get. .8 mb/s on the iconia and almost 6 mb/s on the phone. That is a huge drop and gap :'( I'll look up updating the router. I've never had connection problems before and we have 2 desktops upstairs plus both me and my roommates phones and both laptops and the wii and xbox. I just hope I can get some signal improvements on this nifty device.
sounds like firmware or...
I would find a friend with a different type of wifi router and test your connection with it. That way you get a pretty good indication of if you have a issue with your router or an issue with your Iconia.
Bother, my work wifi allows me to connect, but doesn't allow me to do anything with the connection. I am connected, but cannot do a speedtest. Relying only on bars the phone gets all 4 while the iconia gets only 3. The iconia also only sees 3 of the wifi signals in the building while my phone picks up 7 plus an open adhoc network. I know, it's time to visit with some friends so I can do a second test or maybe this is an excuse to go out for lunch today
ETA: At McDonalds, both devices had 3 bars and identical download and upload speeds. I've gone ahead and ordered a cheap $20 wireless n router to see if that improves things. It should arrive tomorrow, but since it's coming via UPS, it may not arrive until Monday.

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