One of our users has a Touch Dual (Australian Version). Does anyone know of a way to open the start menu, in order to get to the screen calibration, without using the touch screen?
As far as I can tell, the Nike release of this phone has a key on the keypad to open the start menu, but the Dual release, our user has, doesn't.
Wrong, the dual release has a Windows-key (I have the dual release myself).
You can press the Enter button and the camera button at the same time to jump to the screen calibration utility
What ever release the user has, apparently it doesn't have a windows key, however the 2 button shortcut from debenham worked. Cheers heaps for that!
May any other combinaton of keys to skip align screen?
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Ok im sorry if someones mentioned this already, its just that i noticed it now and thought id let everyone know just incase no ones tripped over the idea.
as we all know, when S2U2 is installed on the diamond, pressing the power button on the top locks the phone and puts it into the slide to unlock interface, however alot of people have noticed that by pressing the home button, it takes you to tflow3d thus the S2U2 lock becomes useless on the diamond as you can easily and accidently press the home key while the phone is in your pocket.
N e ways back to the "revelation",
i was playing around with secondtoday, where i used the standard wm lock, and then pressed the power key to put it into the S2U2 interface, i now realised that the phone was trully locked, and nothing would happen when you press the home key.
n e ways, i just thought wouldnt it be possible to make it so that by pressing the power button, both the S2U2 and wm lock start at the the same time, and then when u slide to unlock the standard wm lock is also disabled.
im sure some1's thought of this, but i just had to share my thought just incase
Or you can use the new 1.13 version of S2U2, I think it solves this?
jomo25 said:
Or you can use the new 1.13 version of S2U2, I think it solves this?
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It does. Use the key lock feature.
nope it doesnt solve the problem yet but im sure it will soon
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nope it doesnt solve the problem yet but im sure it will soon
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And you enabled the key lock? It's disabled by default.
I thought the new "Key Hook" feature did it. I don't have a Diamond, so I can't confirm.
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Ok im sorry if someones mentioned this already, its just that i noticed it now and thought id let everyone know just incase no ones tripped over the idea.
as we all know, when S2U2 is installed on the diamond, pressing the power button on the top locks the phone and puts it into the slide to unlock interface, however alot of people have noticed that by pressing the home button, it takes you to tflow3d thus the S2U2 lock becomes useless on the diamond as you can easily and accidently press the home key while the phone is in your pocket.
N e ways back to the "revelation",
i was playing around with secondtoday, where i used the standard wm lock, and then pressed the power key to put it into the S2U2 interface, i now realised that the phone was trully locked, and nothing would happen when you press the home key.
n e ways, i just thought wouldnt it be possible to make it so that by pressing the power button, both the S2U2 and wm lock start at the the same time, and then when u slide to unlock the standard wm lock is also disabled.
im sure some1's thought of this, but i just had to share my thought just incase
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Sure I came along this idea long time ago when there are so many other lock programs flowing around.
Technically, there are a few issues:
- the lock & unlock process of S2U2 & the device lock has to be in-sync;
- S2U2 has always be on top of the device lock when locked;
- automate the device lock & unlock (most other lock programs have done this part);
- take care of the CallerID.
Recently this idea came across my mind again, as you said, because of the "Home" button of the Diamond... On the other hand, there is a "long press end key" function in the Diamond for activating the device lock. It looks like very suitable testing bed is right on my hand... so let's see...
P.S. The latest version do try to fix the "Home" button but in another way. You may read HERE for more.
im sure youl figure it out A_C, take your time.
Thanks for what youv done so far
Is there any programs like the iAno for the HTC diamond?
tango3 said:
Is there any programs like the iAno for the HTC diamond?
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The diamond is not a multi-touch screen. Sigh... another plus for the iPhone.
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The diamond is not a multi-touch screen. Sigh... another plus for the iPhone.
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Aww darn it
topspeclt said:
The diamond is not a multi-touch screen. Sigh... another plus for the iPhone.
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The screen may not be multiitouch, but the lower panel is fully multi-touch, and can be sued tor anything you fancy...
I don't know who else has noticed this, but the diamond only has 2 real hardware buttons it seems. The device uses the multi touch panel to "guess" which button has been pressed, as the finger touches the panel over the button.
A nice experiment to try, is pressing a button through a t-shirt or a cloth. You'll notice that the buttons light up, but no commands are executed, as the device doens't know where you pressed.
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The device uses the multi touch panel to "guess" which button has been pressed, as the finger touches the panel over the button.
A nice experiment to try, is pressing a button through a t-shirt or a cloth. You'll notice that the buttons light up, but no commands are executed, as the device doens't know where you pressed.
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Are you talking about the actual buttons at the bottom of the phone? Because mine actually press down. Yours must be broken
I can even press them with an apple
i think he sais that the phone "knows" your finger is on the button before u even push it, its enough to gently stroke or place your finger onto the round button.
i dont think he meant that he couldnt push the button, just that there is 2 functions to it.
thats right
the pad on the bottom actually server 2 purposes. mechanical buttons (5, enter, home, back,pick up, and hang up) and the dialwheel... BUT underneath the buttons there is more.. the complete pad is touchsensitive, altough not utilized by the diamond, for now that is...
its even multitouch.. for now only the dialwheel and the enter buttom use the touchsensitive capabilities..
somewhere on this forum there are a bunch of applications to debug/test youre diamond, i believe this paticular program was called navdebug or something like that..
it would be nice when sombody can utilize this pad in his software...
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i think he sais that the phone "knows" your finger is on the button before u even push it, its enough to gently stroke or place your finger onto the round button.
i dont think he meant that he couldnt push the button, just that there is 2 functions to it.
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I know there is the touch and the actual button function, but when he said...
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the diamond only has 2 real hardware buttons it seems. The device uses the multi touch panel to "guess" which button has been pressed, as the finger touches the panel over the button.
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...it had me confused. The panel clearly has hardware buttons underneath so there must be more than 2 on the entire phone. It also doesn't need to "guess" which button has been pressed.
The lower part of Touch Diamond has:
Two touch surfaces (one on the left and one on the right of the OK button)
Two clickable buttons underneath each touch surface (actually including the OK button it's 3 buttons)
When you put your finger on the touch panel it reads your position. If you press harder you will press the button underneath and it will translate the press according to your position on the touch panel as a specific button press.
So in theory, we could add another button bitween HOME and PHONE, or BACK and HANG UP etc etc
Unfortunately it's not fully multitouch, it just able to read simultaneously finger positions or presses from both touch panels. Something that may be mistaken for multitouch!
Ah right, so the 2 hardware buttons makes sense now
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The lower part of Touch Diamond has:
Two touch surfaces (one on the left and one on the right of the OK button)
Two clickable buttons underneath each touch surface (actually including the OK button it's 3 buttons)
When you put your finger on the touch panel it reads your position. If you press harder you will press the button underneath and it will translate the press according to your position on the touch panel as a specific button press.
So in theory, we could add another button bitween HOME and PHONE, or BACK and HANG UP etc etc
Unfortunately it's not fully multitouch, it just able to read simultaneously finger positions or presses from both touch panels. Something that may be mistaken for multitouch!
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youre absolutly right...
however when i run the navdebug for the touchpanel, i can surely read the position of my fingers on both sides simutaniously. wich as far as i understand could be explained as multitouch.... correct me if i am wrong..
sadly i dont know how to code my own software, otherwise i would like to investigate further how this works... i geuss it has a grid of proximitysensor whis get read at a specific interval, and i assume, like the navdebug already gives away, that the resolution of the so calles multitouchpanel, will be very low...
i tried it and i just have to correct some of my sayings...
i seems that the matrix is divided into 3 parts wich could be read simutaniously, lets say left, middle and right... it doesnt read multitouch in one matrix... we just got 3 matrixes simutaniously....
never the less we could utilize it for example scrolling....
I am not really sure how multi touch works but I have been using Stylophone program
on my fone and the whole screen is a keyboard. I allows you to play 2 keys of the keyboard
at the same time and two different sounds are always present if u get what I mean.
So m not sure if that cuts in as multi touch....Hmmm
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The lower part of Touch Diamond has:
Two touch surfaces (one on the left and one on the right of the OK button)
Two clickable buttons underneath each touch surface (actually including the OK button it's 3 buttons)
When you put your finger on the touch panel it reads your position. If you press harder you will press the button underneath and it will translate the press according to your position on the touch panel as a specific button press.
So in theory, we could add another button bitween HOME and PHONE, or BACK and HANG UP etc etc
Unfortunately it's not fully multitouch, it just able to read simultaneously finger positions or presses from both touch panels. Something that may be mistaken for multitouch!
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This is exaclty what I was trying to say. I really do suck at explaining things sometimes...
The buttons on my device do indeed click down when pressed firmly, but when pressed with a non organic object, the button clicks, but no action is performed, as the device does not know where the button was pressed down.
When I work out how to read the location of these "touches" I think it would be VERY easy to add extra "buttons" to the lower touch section, and even replace the ones which are there already.
here's the link for whom that haven't seen it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Owgcos_KY
Hi,
I do not own Touch HD, so I cannot test, but the button area bellow should be touch sensitive. Why did not somebody used it as D-pad? Dragging up/down left/righ as the GScroll (http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx) for Diamond? It is not possible to detect different touch positions on the same button so with only one row of buttons there is no way how to do up/down gestures?
Thanks you for your explanation, Jan
very good idea, i'll check !
edit : doesn't works somebody to code it ?
I've tryed it, not working for me on my HD (black pearl light rom) , but an app like that should be the missing part for HD.
This is a FANTASTIC idea.
Anyone willing to give it a shot and code it?
I don't think this is possible, because those "touch sensitive buttons" aren't capacitive buttons, they are just normal button much more sensitive than usual. You can see it your self by pressing them with the stylus: it works, and it wouldn't if they were capacitive.
for sure the button are not capacitive i did the same test too and few more
i think the "button" are a simple touch screen extra area
look at the attached image of the touch screen replacement part.
i think that all the button area could be remapped as wished..
Using Magic mobile or AEbuttons you can remap key to simulate Dpad, i've put up and down to double tap volume,left to double hang up, right to double hang off, center to double backspace, done it with mobilemagic. Give it a try.
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Using Magic mobile or AEbuttons you can remap key to simulate Dpad, i've put up and down to double tap volume,left to double hang up, right to double hang off, center to double backspace, done it with mobilemagic. Give it a try.
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For me this is not good replacement, on real D-pad I can press and hold, for instance quick rewind/forward on player. You cannot do that with key remapping.
If it is possible to follow gestures, you can move left a hold to simulate D-pad left key hold.
I don't think the buttons are "capacitive" (as on iPhone), but the button area is touch sensitive as the rest of the display - see the image. So it in theory should be possible to use this area to capture stylus or finger touches. I don't think I am the first one with this idea. It seems to be that there are some obstacles.
Hello everyone,
I have been searching for some time about a possibilitie / software that will work for my actual HTC (Diamond pro) but nothing comes to be even good. And then I remember the old times with an old HTC (sorry I do not remember the model) where a dedicate key could turn off the screen
what I am looking for, if anybody has an idea, please share it,
- hot key, shortcut that turn off the screen, and disable the touch screen
- the screen come become a-live with same key-press
that's all !!
and what I think would be the perfect solution.
- and application that as soon as it get started turn off the screen and disable the touch screen, letting still the functinality for the device to be controlled by the PC (personally I use MyMobileR )
- in that way it could be assign to a hot key, or to a short cut in the screen/menus (I will love to be possible to assign to a long touch on the central pad/button)
- it could have advance configuration options :
dim light levels instead of complete turn off
splash a logo / screen instead of black screen
- configurable key to let the app go, again lovely if a long central pad touch would make it
mainly the idea is to save battery / turn off the screen (touch also) in a easy way without lose any other functionality when the device think is not time to do it (connected to PC, GPS application, Music playing, etc...)
any idea ?
I would love to program it, but I lack the skills necessary for it. within my ignorance I presume is not a difficult app to be develop
thanks in advance
have you tried xdaShutdown?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544016
you can make a .lnk file of "lights out" and assign it to a button.
53#"\Program Files\xdashutdown\xdashutdown.exe" /lightsout
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Hello dude i can share what i think
Im using Turn the Screen OFF
Its very litle and simple app so after install it on the Main Memory she will apear in the start menu, you need just to go in settings, personal, buttons and there to map some of the hardware keys to use Turn of the light.
I didt it with my Answering Button and when i press and hold that Button my phone go to sleep mode fast.. when i wana wake up the phone i can do it by the Stylus.. if i pull out the stylus the phone wake up or the second variant is to press the Power button.
Im using this app because i don`t want to use my power button anymore and this program really work for me and is free
Im using Touch HD but the program will work on any WM Device
i tried to use the new system.ext2 today but i got SOD so restored back to original version.
now my home hardware button isn't working, any ideas' why it would stop? or how to fix it?
tried a search but looking for home button seemed to turn up random results
ta very much, love this place
Have posted this in android forum but no luck::::
Any ideas?
Originally Posted by corollatercel
Does anyone else have a problem with the windows button not bringing up the menu in most screens? It works at the home page, web browser and market but inside of most programs downloaded or not the menu button just takes you back to the home screen. Anyone know a fix for this? I'm using the desire build 5.7 with cotulla's new zimage.
i've searched High and low to see if someone has posted it already and couldn't find a solution.
I have had a similar issue with trying to use android.
I have a euro hd2 with 2_12_50_02_2, using chucky gtx rom, installed following task 29.
The rom seems to work well in windows with the problem of non-functioning hard key buttons in the WINMO also. It seems impossible to assign functions to the hard keys via the windows settings - only the send key option is displayed. The send key (green) button works fine for bringing up the dial pad and the end key (red) works fine also. The start button appropriately brings up the windows menu in this rom, though i have noticed that it does not work on other roms. Currently my home key and back key do not appear to do anything in the WINMO under chucky gtx rom!!
This presents no problems in WINMO as htc sense is easily navigated use touchscreen only and to be honest i never even touch the hard keys. However, this presents a massive problem in ANDROID - the android becomes impossible to navigate as I cannot ever go back or use the home key to get to the main screen. This is the same in sense or launcher mode.
I am using a clean fat 32 4gb class 2 micro sd, desire build v 5.7 from gamesquare and tried all the latest zimage files from cotulla and others but always the same problem. the send key is working fine but then i cannot get out of the dial pad. pressing the end key puts the sense in lock and screen off and i can long press this to power down but if i unlock then i am just stuck at dialpad or where ever i was when i locked. the windows key seems to bring up context menu fine and long press brings up key board in android. The home button does seem to wake from sleep sometimes i think, back button does not seem to work at all.
I have tried changing the rootcfs as well but this did not do anything. I had the same problem on FROYO build so im guessing it might not be an android problem. I am using JMZ dual boot on new rom installs without any other programs on windows or anything else other than android on the microsd.
I have not tried any stock roms to see if they solve the button issue in WINMO but cant really understand why they dont work so well in ANDROID or are they linked as android is ontop of windows?
Ihave found a workaround by installing "soft home key" app from market place which is helpful. but still looking for a fix. All very frustrating!!!
Searched everywhere on xda for answers to no avail. even googling for days!!!
PLEASE HELP. I think im not alone if above post is anything to go by
seem to have the same problem myself.
a short press of the windows button goes home, a long press brings up the recent apps; not the menu.
same issue here
i looked at the files located under /system/usr/keylayout and they all indicated that the correct functions were assigned to the correct keys
anyone else have any ideas?
Just remove the Android file from SD, then reload. Done. These builds are not complete yet. Crap is bound to go wrong.
i think the word we are looking for ..is.........beta
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I had the same problem...The home button on my rooted Nook Color stopped working. I finally stumbled on the answer. I double clicked the home button and it brought up settings. The home button was set to softkeys instead of home. Just change it and it works again.