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Hello all. I have a Cingular 8525 (WM5) that I have successfully setup to use my home WiFi connection. Skype works great. My signal strength is good. In the "Network Cards" applet, it shows my WiFi network (it's the only one listed) with four bars and a "Connected" status. Everything seems fine.
When I try to use IE, though, it always tries to use GPRS to connect! Under Connections->Advanced->Select Networks, I have chosen "My Work Network" for both options. It still tries to use GPRS!
I don't even have a SIM installed, so I have no phone service whatsoever. So why in the blazes is it trying to use it instead of WiFi?
Anybody got any ideas?
Edit:
Well, I got it to work by toggling flight mode on and then back off again. Then, I had to turn WiFi back on again (bringing the phone out of flight mode doesn't re-enable WiFi). After I did that, though, IE used my wireless connection. Go figure.
I wish I knew the real reason, though. Someday, I'm going to install a SIM in this thing and I want to make sure it's not using that over my home wireless connection. Guess I'll have to look into those GPRS hacks I keep reading about.
maybe not much help but I had the same problem recently. I turned the phone to 'off' (even though it had no sim in it) and left it - it resolved itself and it working fine!
Thanks Frank. Glad I'm not the only one.
As a sidenote, I checked the registry settings (hack) for GPRS and there were two ISP's listed: one called My ISP and another called Cingular ISP (or something to that effect). In both cases, they were already set to 0 (off), so I would think they should have already been disabled.
GPRS lock
Hey guys I found a program called NOData these program allows you to disable the gprs so you dont suffer the conectio while you're using wi-fi and loose signal strenght works great and really easy to use.
Cheers
Same Problem
I have a T-mobile MDA and it has the same problem. I can fix it by going to the communication manager, turning off "data connection", and then toggling the wifi off and then back on. That always seems to fix it. Also, just going to flight mode does the same thing.
my X01HT always connect to gprs..i dont know how to turn off it..i`ll try MoDaCo_NoData..
gprs lock
gonchi said:
Hey guys I found a program called NOData these program allows you to disable the gprs so you dont suffer the conectio while you're using wi-fi and loose signal strenght works great and really easy to use.
Cheers
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hi,
how do i use this program.
the file shows extension .000 and .001
thanks
rpzab said:
hi,
how do i use this program.
the file shows extension .000 and .001
thanks
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sounds like you opened the cab file on your pc. Download cab file transfer it to your device and open it from there.
Mike
Hi
Just got an Orange 3G. One annoying feature is that if it drops a WiFi connection it goes automatically to using GPRS without any indication (which thens starts to cost !!!)
Orange say you can't stop this happening. Does anyone know any trick to stop this (there is no way to keep the GPRS off as there was on my old Touch)
Be grateful for any help
As I said to the person who asked the same question a few days ago *sigh*, google nodata
petez1 said:
Hi
Just got an Orange 3G. One annoying feature is that if it drops a WiFi connection it goes automatically to using GPRS without any indication (which thens starts to cost !!!)
Orange say you can't stop this happening. Does anyone know any trick to stop this (there is no way to keep the GPRS off as there was on my old Touch)
Be grateful for any help
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You need to check how your phone is connecting.
AFAIK the orange ROM uses the unique manager not the normal HTC connection manager.
This means you dont really have a WiFi connection. Orange unique is their VOIP(??) implementation.
If you have a livebox and orange as your ISP your phone will automatically switch to using your WiFi connection for phone calls saving you money, the downside is you cant use wifi for anything else.
The only way to sort it is buy flashing a different ROM.
Orange Unique ----http://www.business.orange.co.uk/services/broadband/unique-for-business/
Hi
Thanks for the info. Been trying to sort out with Orange and same answer - disable GPRS and the WiFi stops as well !!! (One of the Orange guys even admitted that it was because they don't make money on voice now, only data). The 'nodata' fix doesn't work as it also stops the WiFi. Any thoughts on which ROM I might flash?
Thanks for your help
I'm actually an Orange employee, working for Handset Faults, and looking to solve this for a customer.
There is a rom update available from HTC, which apparently fixes this, however the customer I'm trying to resolve this for, has tried updating and his serial number shows as no available ROM.
I don't think the No-data resolution will work, so hoping if theres any other solutions you guys could suggest?
I know on my current HS, which is a Hermes, I've the communication manager, which i believe isn't available on the Touch 3G, unless debranded.
Really, I'm just trying to get more advice, so would appreciate anyone's tried and tested work-around, as i've to call said customer back tomorrow, with hopefully a resolution, but if not, then he'll have to wait till a ROM update becomes available from HTC/Orange for branded handsets.
I found a solution to this problem last night that works for me on my Touch 3G with Orange.
Enter Unique Manager - Advanced Settings - Network Adapter - My Network Card Connects to - and ensure they're all set to connect to The Internet.
I have also setup a Block GPRS connection under Settings - Connections - Conections which stop GPRS connecting and can now connect via Wifi no problem.
Bob
bobmac892 said:
I found a solution to this problem last night that works for me on my Touch 3G with Orange.
Enter Unique Manager - Advanced Settings - Network Adapter - My Network Card Connects to - and ensure they're all set to connect to The Internet.
I have also setup a Block GPRS connection under Settings - Connections - Conections which stop GPRS connecting and can now connect via Wifi no problem.
Bob
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Bob
Thanks for this - going to give it a try but when i go into Settings - Connections for the second part of your fix, where do I go next (I can't find Conections which stop GPRS connecting)
Thanks
Thanks Bob,
Will copy this and put it on my phone somehow!
Thank you very much for the advice!
Greeee
Did you manage to make it work?
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Greeee
Did you manage to make it work?
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Unfortunately, the customer cancelled their upgrade and got another handset before trying this.
Shame really!
Thanks for the help though!
petez1 said:
Bob
Thanks for this - going to give it a try but when i go into Settings - Connections for the second part of your fix, where do I go next (I can't find Conections which stop GPRS connecting)
Thanks
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Bob/Greee
Still haven't been able to work out the second part of the fix - can you help?
Thanks
I've no suggestions tbh, cause I don't own a Touch 3G, I personally run a Hermes.
I'm actually trying to follow this up, and check what Bob meant by blocking GPRS on it.
Also, would you chaps be so kind to advise me if GPS under the HTC Touch 3G uses GPRS to connect, or does it use Satelittes like a normal GPS?
Just another question my customer asked today.
Thank you,
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I've no suggestions tbh, cause I don't own a Touch 3G, I personally run a Hermes.
I'm actually trying to follow this up, and check what Bob meant by blocking GPRS on it.
Also, would you chaps be so kind to advise me if GPS under the HTC Touch 3G uses GPRS to connect, or does it use Satelittes like a normal GPS?
Just another question my customer asked today.
Thank you,
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The GPS will use the satelitte to get a signal (just like proper SatNavs), but if there's an A-GPS feature, it will use a tiny bit of GPRS to speed up the process.
It'll then use the GPRS (if enabled) to download maps for the local area if it there isn't a map already installed on the handset.
That's why it's always a good idea to disable GPRS when roaming, at £8/mb- it's a pricey thing to use.
However, you can normaly download maps using WiFi before you leave (if you know where you'll be going), which will save time and money on using the network for data.
I get asked that question alot too (I work for them too, in NT1- First Impressions)
It will use the GPRS for the GPS locator if you leave A-GPS selected. Fortunately you can disable A-GPS to stop this happening.
Interestingly, I can't find any real difference in the speed of 'finding' satalites between standard GPS and A-GPS.
Thanks for the advice guys.
So any ideas how to fully block GPRS traffic outgoing, unless wanted? So its WIFI only when my customer is at home?
No further movement on this one...
Anyone got any ideas, how to utilise the WIFI facility switching the Unique Phone part off, and blocking GPRS traffic?
Thank you,
NoData works on fone.......BUT
Hi I got my touch 3g couple days ago its on orange contract brilliant fone apart from cannot connect to wifi as you all know it still connects thru gprs so I downloaded Nodata installed on fone disabled gprs with it. So good so far switched on wifi thru unique manager then checked that data connection was still off and it was BRILLIANT I shouted.
My wifi was connected to my hub and data connection was off woo hoo
Started web browser and lo an behold Get the message "cannot connect with current connection settings"
As far as I am led to believe at the present time there is no way round this problem apart from installing a clean version of windows but if I am mistaken please tell me how to get around this problem.
Cheers Biggles
HTC touch Dual An a HTC touch 3G
I have the Touch 3g with Orange - but thanks to the guys on this forum I got rid of the Orange branding/mess by using a 'stock' rom and I am not now using Orange Unique. Then I did the following........but not sure if it works with the Orange Unique stuff.
As far I as I can see there is no explict way of turning GPRS off - if it is set up then it will connect to it when a program requests data. I have unlimited internet on my home network but I need to turn GPRS off when roaming abroad so I don't get charged silly amounts.
I found that the only way I can guarantee to stop the phone using GPRS is to change the name of the Access Point Name - then it cannot connect to the service. On my phone (a Touch 3g) it is under Settings, Connections, Connections, Manage Existing Connections - then edit the connection details. On mine it is Orange Internet - so edit this and get to the Access Point Name - which is orangeinternet in my case - i just take away a few letters at the end and save the settings.
At this point GPRS will not work because the Access Point Name is not correct and you will get a message from any program trying to access the internet if wifi is not enabled. To get it to work again just edit the Access Point Name back to what it was. In my case I do not have to switch the phone off/on - I can just change the Access Point Name at anytime and it works or dosn't as I require.
Hope this helps.
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On my phone (a Touch 3g) it is under Settings, Connections, Connections, Manage Existing Connections - then edit the connection details. On mine it is Orange Internet - so edit this and get to the Access Point Name - which is orangeinternet in my case - i just take away a few letters at the end and save the settings.
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Hi,
With Orange Unique there isn't any "Manage Existing Connections" that I can find - just addding new modem or VPN? Am I in the right place?
Thanks
for the benefit of people who may be subscribed to this thread, I think I have found a fix for the orange rom using data connection instead of wifi, read on here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4517074&postcount=12
post back to that thread if it works for you!
Anyway?
if better , perm disable of GPRS will be good .
Try NoData to disble GPRS. Personally I'm not having much luck with it as my TD2 keep closing it down in background.
Alternative is to deliberately set an incorrect APN so it cannot connect even when it tries.
I don't know of any method of setting a default connection type.
NoData.cab works fine in my device, but HD Tweak can do the same job, so I removed it.
Would like to do the same too, and then have my weather and emails be updated via my home network thru wireless only...
any one able to do this?
Of course you can! Using 3g or any other paying data connection when WiFi is available is simply foolish
sualc said:
Of course you can! Using 3g or any other paying data connection when WiFi is available is simply foolish
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Done spose you would like to tell me how please...i am not that clued in with the HTC device just yet...and have used alot of my data already...which i have to pay for...
Thanks..
With pleasure:
Some people say they can deactivate gprs,3g etc within windows..but as I emptied my sim credit within a minute when I first started my Topaz, I decided not to worry anymore by installing Modaco's NoData.cab (it's free,google for it) and disabling all costly data connections from my operator. After a few days I realized that nodata.cab was no longer needed because I had also HD Tweak, who can do the same.If you use it go to point 6. and disable the 3 last settings. So it's up to you:NoData.cab or Hd Tweak...and I'm sure even others utilities work aswell.
Or you simply delete the settings for 3g conections and the software will decide to use WIFI it's avaible instead 3G (because it will not work without settings.)
How do you do that? In this case you would have to do the network autoconfig again if you need 3g etc..anyway this discussion is funny because it is rare to find a thread with multiple solutions recently....I was getting bored of unsolved problems . Cheers !
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With pleasure:
Some people say they can deactivate gprs,3g etc within windows..but as I emptied my sim credit within a minute when I first started my Topaz, I decided not to worry anymore by installing Modaco's NoData.cab (it's free,google for it) and disabling all costly data connections from my operator. After a few days I realized that nodata.cab was no longer needed because I had also HD Tweak, who can do the same.If you use it go to point 6. and disable the 3 last settings. So it's up to you:NoData.cab or Hd Tweak...and I'm sure even others utilities work aswell.
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If you activate wifi the wm will use this
instead 3g. right know i post from td2
and i use wifi and the gsm it is still active bu not in use
Ok, and what steps did you take to achieve this?
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Ok, and what steps did you take to achieve this?
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i try it right know to be sure.
I have SPB monitor instaleted to verify the traffic.
If 3G it's active and you enable WIFI the application it will use 3G.
If the 3G it's close and open WIFI the application it will use WIFI and don't open 3G.
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So it's not about "deleting" anything, you're just using another application (costs USD$19.95). May be a solution
You understand me wrong.
First solution about deleting the connection was the simplest one if you want to use only WIFI.
Second : "I have SPB monitor instaleted to verify the traffic."
I use this app ONLY to verify and to be sure were the app goes to made traffic not for directing the app.
SPB Monitor tell you if you have one or more connections how much traffic you made...
and I see what I tell you if I have 3G closed and WIFI activated the traffic was made on WIFI and 3G remain closed.
But if you have 3G connected and start after that WIFI the 3G will made the traffic.
OK I understand, may I ask you again what are the steps for your first solution?
1. if you don't want to warry about 3G connection and you don't want to use it.
-"Connection setup/menu" disable auto configuration
-"Connections/manage existing connections" and delete all the connections
- enable WIFI and all the programs will use WIFI(will be the single way)
2. If you want to use 3G and WIFI
-when you use WIFI be sure/verify the 3G connection it's closed(click on the status bar-signal strenght icon and if it's active disable it)
-afterthat enable WIFI
Otherwise if 3G it's active will be the first option for applications to acces the internet.
Try to enable Autodisconect (ADV CONFIG or HDtweak) of data connection after you use it to disconnect automatically for you.
I hope I help you.
Solution 1 doesn't work here,wasted a couple of euros ..back to my good ooold system.
i still can't disable it, i just bomb $400 for activating gprs ..
new to WM phone , so ... kinda slow .
If you only want to use wireless all the time, try the following:
Go to Start | Settings | Connections
Click on Connections icon
Click on Advanced tab
Click on Select Networks button
Programs that automatically connect to Internet should use
My Work Network
Programs that automatically connect to a private network should use
My Work Network
Cheers to SEX1 on whirlpool...
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If you only want to use wireless all the time, try the following:
Go to Start | Settings | Connections
Click on Connections icon
Click on Advanced tab
Click on Select Networks button
Programs that automatically connect to Internet should use
My Work Network
Programs that automatically connect to a private network should use
My Work Network
Cheers to SEX1 on whirlpool...
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Hi, will this solution also fix my issue? My issue being:
-No dataplan, but do not want do disable/delete 3g/gsm, because I still want to use it sporadically on the road, and recieve MMS. But only when I choose to manually.
-At the same time, I want the automatic updates of weather, push-email, stock and such, but ONLY when I'm in a known WLAN.
In simple terms, I want to deny the 3g/E/H from automatically connecting, without deleting them. At the same time, wifi should be allowed to automatically connect, and update selected services.
Is this possible?
Aloha !
I have a problem and I need your help (and yes, I have searched already):
My Blackstone activates data connections automatically, if a programm tries to reach the internet.
So far not a problem, as I have a flatrate for that.
The problem is, that it consumes much energy, if the data conection is etsablished and you drive in you car.
So my question is:
Is there any way to connect just manual to the internet ?
I tried deactivating the data connections by HD Tweak.
Afterwards it is still possible to connect to the internet and I even get an ip adress, but no programm on the phone is able to use that connection.
Does anyone have a clue, how to fix this ? It would be just perfect !
Tools like NoData and gb soft gprs umts tweak dont work, as they either dont block automatic connection or disable data connections completly.
Help would be appriciated, as this problem really annoys me.
Tavos
settings->connections->connections->advanced->select network
and select my home network or whatever it's called on your device
then no can create a connection using anything but wifi or over activesync
and when you want to let it use gprs
you do the same by select my isp or <insert your isp name> or whatever it's called on your device
Thanks for the answer, but thats not what I am looking for.
I want to be able to switch the data connection on/off by one click (with the CommManager for example), but not the programs to be able to do it.
The way you offered, it is completely off or it can be connected by programs.
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Thanks for the answer, but thats not what I am looking for.
I want to be able to switch the data connection on/off by one click (with the CommManager for example), but not the programs to be able to do it.
The way you offered, it is completely off or it can be connected by programs.
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I agree, this could be useful indeed.
I don't see the point of having a switch in the comm manager, if then any program can turn it on.
maTTeo
is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
+1 good idea, anyone got anything on this?
Andi,
The solution I would use would be to go to Settings>Wireless Controls and simply switch Data Connections off, Wifi On when at home.
You would have to remember to to reverse this when done if you want to access 3G services.
WB
u could use G-Profile.. It allows you to set up different profiles and switch them automatically based on your current cell id. Wifi on/3G off when at home, other way around when not. Works like a charm for me
thanks for the tip but when I do that it then automatically turns it back on even when I'm connected to the wireless hub, all of a sudden they both are on . . . . . . .?? any ideas ??
i have the same problem... it keeps using my 3G/EDGE network even if WIFI is available... and i dont get it how can HTC afford not to give us an option to set that the phone asks you for permission when connecting to 3G/EDGE network... this **** costs and im not really happy about the fact that my phone can connect to a network whenever it feels like.
(and yes this **** keeps happening even tho i disabled automatic updates in weather/time applications.)
In BSB tweaks if you press options I think there is an option to disable all data connections. I have never tried it but maybe it will override all connection attempt? Give it a try. Also, I flashed to the 2.01 ROM and I think the data connections are a little less persistent, though I don't wan't to guarantee anything!
andi1977dog said:
is there a way to make sure the phone only connects to my home wi fi hub when at home and does not connect via my 3g vodafone connection. I want it to automatically select the fastest link and not waste my 3g allowance ? I've searched but cannot find a solution, thanks
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does it not do that by default? i cant send emails through t-email when i'm at home - I just presumed this was because i was connected through my wireless router. turning off wifi allows me to send emails.
thus I presumed wifi takes preference?
I am wondering the same thing. The idealist situation would be to have both connections active at the same time, and let the HD2 make sure that wifi is used when the connection is there. Is there some kind of application to verify which connection is being used?
Great thread - I am not the only HD2 owner who is annoyed with the problem with the HD2 switching on its GRPS data connection without my approval!!!
Could it be that the HD2 turns off the wifi when it goes to sleep and then tries to connect to the web using the GPRS network? In that case how do I prevent turning off WIFI when in sleepmode?
I read somewhere else in this forum about a G-profile. Being a newbie with HTC I have no idea what this is. Any clue?
But overall: Yes, it would be great if HTC added an option to set network connection preferences.
WiFi does take preference if it's connected! Dont forget when you are at home and you turn your phone on from standby it will take 10sec or so to connect to your WiFi router, if you try and use IE, Opera, Twitter, Weather Update, Email, etc... before it's connected it will fire up your 3G data connection!
The phone does not how ever turn off your data conn when it's idle which is annoying! You need to use Bandswitch or CommManager from here http://www.commmgrpro.com/jsp/main_frame.jsf;jsessionid=103F335931311F019BD540B82E479383 or WMLonglife from this forum (do a search).
there must be someone out there with ghe know how and expertise to solve this ?? glad to see its an issue for othet folk, i like the idea for selecting wi fi over gprs if its there to be selected.......
I found out that my HD2 automatically closes the 3G connection when I have wifi active. I'm not sure why it does that, I know pretty sure that it had not always done that. But I'm quite happy with it
It turns 3G on again after disconnecting from WIFI, which is what I want.
so if you tap the notifications tab and the "contratc internet" is counting and the wi fii is connected it is using the wifi and not the "contract internet" even though the timer is counting ???
Can anyone confirm ???
p.s tried using the G-Profile software, it seems very inconsistant and didnt always turn off what it should when you select the profile so im going to unistall it.
for some reason the automatic internet settings from vodafone messes up/hides the "The Internet" or "MyISP" connection that is in the phone originally.. I even hard resetted but you just can't seem to stop the automatic settings..
disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc..
the same with email only checking through 3G and not wifi.. but set the server settings of your account to "The Internet" after you disabled the proxy.. (advanced settings at the smpt server tab)
hope this helps.. but a thing worries me, as I don't know anything about proxies, why does vodafone specify a proxy if we don't realy need one.. to port us over their live portal or something? (on my old sony ericsson the track ID service didn't work because of that)
"disable the proxy of the "Vodafone live!" connection and it will work.. just like twitter etc.."
thanks but how do i do this ??
anyone know how i do this ? thanks
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
tnyborg said:
After including the Taskmanager as a quick link in HTC Sense I am now able to close all programs. Now I do no longer experience any unfortunate GPRS connections when connected to WIFI.
Only problem is that when running on batteries the WIFI connection is closed down when the unit enters sleepmode. However during sleepmode, if I have not closed down programs accessing the web these are now able to connect to the web by using the GPRS connection.
Why on Earth has HTS decided to decipher a click on the X as MINIMIZE and not CLOSE!!!
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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I believe my Wifi connection is kept alive, even in sleepmode.
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Sorry, forgot to mention this - but in order to save battery power I have asked the unit to close down the WIFI when in sleepmode (using BsB Tweaks). And indeed it gives me more battery life.