First, the disclaimer.
I am a Windows Mobile Noob. But I'm doing OK with it. Liking it, even.
I am a total WiFi NOOB. Never met it before, no, sir. But i do have a wireless router, wireless enabled, with a Vista PC connected via Ethernet cable.
I now find myself with a WiFi device, the X1.
My X1 connects happily to my router.
So far, so good. Happy.
Question time!
1, Can i get my X1 and my PC to talk to each other via WiFi, as in networking?
2, If not 1, can i at least transfer files etc via the WiFi connection?
3, either 1, or 2, How is it done?
Many thanx to anyone with helpful info, funny one liners, and/or decent cutting remarks about my stupidity and high expectations.
Your Wifi box most likely have a NAT router build in, that will make the job complicated. Use your wiki to access internet from your X1, and the get out the good old USB cable for the connection to the pc...
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nat should not be an issue unless 1 connect from outside the subnet
the way to do it is the same way as one does it with 2 computers
one have to map the network resources to a drive
total commander does that on pda
and the correct rights have to be present to the
device which connects
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ok here's the problem
you want to connect to a wired network or even simply a single pc connecting to the net on a broadband or dialup connection.
if there was a wireless router then it wouldnt be a problem. your pda would connect to the wireless network and the wireless router would give your pda an address and everything would work.
without the wireless router you don't get allocated an ip address.
well problem solved www.nat32.com has a program called nat32e which you can get a demo version of (works for an hour before needing to be restarted)
essentially this is a nat router which runs on any pc running windows
you need a wireless card in addition to its ethernet connection to the net.
I did this with 2 wireless cards so in theory it could be used to extend the effective range of an existing wireless network too
installation is simple but basically you give the wireless card i used a belkin usb 54g dongle type on channel 6 a fixed address and tell it to connect to an adhoc network called "whatever"
you add a network packet driver, nat32 holds your hand installing this,
then the pc needs a reboot.
first time you run nat32 it runs through the configuration you tell it what card connects to the internet and which card connects to your private net
(that is your adhoc wireless network) it sets things up
scan for a network on your pda tell it to look for adhoc networks connect to "whatever" and tell it when it asks, it connects to work.
you should then have wireless access to the net.
if your doing this with two wireless cards make sure you have seperate channels set up for your infrastructure network and your adhoc network.
the belkin 54g usb wireless dongle costs about 25 from staples or 30 from pc world (both are local for me)
the host pc will run fine without any problems with nat32 running or not
no proxys need configuring a registered verion of nat32 costs from
$25 but this gets you registered for just one pc and really you want it so you can roam with a usb wireless card in your pocket and your pda.
I think adhoc wireless networking works for up to 30 wireless points.
i did it with a pda, mdaIII and a laptop.
basically like ics but with less problems
I think you can do this with bluetooth as well but that really isn't fun
hope this is useful sorry its so rough but i have to get to work
Think you may be on the trail of a problem that I am stuck on at the moment . I have the XDA11i and want to connect it via blue tooth to a blue tooth modem connected in turn to to a BT wall socket ( in that way I can surf for 1p per min !!!) no matter what I seem to do whilst the PDA will recognise the Modem as a serial modem ( and form a secure link ) it wont talk to it and get it to dial up . Zoom ( Hayes ) are wondering if 02 have disabled the element in blue tooth that lets this work ? Any thoughts . with the above I dont need to lug my lap top round with me .
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Astro1
London England
Please excuse me if this is a stupid question
I have an Ameo , and I also have use of a UMPC - which has Wi-fi , but no BT
Would it be theoretically possible to create an adhoc network between the two devices (wi-fi) , and thereby share the Ameo's HSDPA connection ?
I realise that simply connecting them by USB cable will let me do the same thing, but I really could do without having the two physically connected
If the above won't work I'll have to get a dongle for the UMPC I think !
zoidster said:
Please excuse me if this is a stupid question
I have an Ameo , and I also have use of a UMPC - which has Wi-fi , but no BT
Would it be theoretically possible to create an adhoc network between the two devices (wi-fi) , and thereby share the Ameo's HSDPA connection ?
I realise that simply connecting them by USB cable will let me do the same thing, but I really could do without having the two physically connected
If the above won't work I'll have to get a dongle for the UMPC I think !
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I'm not sure about WiFi but I can tell you something use a USB cable, the one you use for ActiveSync. What I found this summer when using my X7500 as HDSPA modem for my PC was that using USB with the internet sharing connection was far more stable and fast than using BT wireless connection.
Now related to WiFi, just a theory. I don't think that you can with the provided software. What Internet Sharing program does are two things as far as I understand. First launch a connection to the HDSPA system and "listen" the PC either on BT or in USB. Second manage to do some sort of routing between the WAN network (HDSPA) and the "local" network (BT or USB). But I place local between quotes because I'm not meaning LAN which is real LOCAL Area Network, that could work in WiFi. I mean "local" in terms of near to the PC or something like that.
So... perhaps you will be able to connect the Athena and the UMPC using a peer-to-peer WiFi connection which looks possible to me. And for sure you will be able to generate a HDSPA connection to the WAN. But you need a program to route the data from the HDSPA to the WiFi in the Athena in order to get communication in the UMPC using the Athena as router which is the function I mention as second function of the Internet Sharing program.
OK all this is in theory off-course.
Anyway I can tell you that phisical connection using USB for Internet Sharing is solid as a rock and works great for hours.
Best Regards,
mahjong
Hello,
Long time listner....first time poster.
I've been using WMWIFI for home internet access now for a while. My laptop and desktop have no problems finding my mogul as an access point.
I just purchased a Playstation3 (mostly for the bluray). It has a wireless card built in to access some of Sony's online stuff.
My problem is that the PS3 cannot find my mogul as an access point. Any guesses? I've searched to earth's end, however, it doesn't seem there are many people trying to do what I am...and unfortunately I can't exactly call sprint and ask them.
Thanks for any help.
Found the answer...the PS3 will not connect to an Ad-hoc network...
Reported to not work
Nintendo DS
Nintendo Wii
PlayStation Portable
Unable to connect to a device providing internet using ad-hoc mode.
Do ya'll think that there is a way around this?
I don't have any other internet access (except for the mogul) but would like to get the PS3 connected.
i'm sure theres a way to rebroadcast from the PC
hymanr said:
Found the answer...the PS3 will not connect to an Ad-hoc network...
Reported to not work
Nintendo DS
Nintendo Wii
PlayStation Portable
Unable to connect to a device providing internet using ad-hoc mode.
Do ya'll think that there is a way around this?
I don't have any other internet access (except for the mogul) but would like to get the PS3 connected.
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The psp can connect to an Ad-Hoc network (at least the last time I tried), don't know about the others. I just know under network settings on the psp you have to change it to ad-hoc mode.
Yes it can be done. you need a laptop or a desktop to act as a middle man.
If your desktop or laptop has a wireless / wired port, simply share the internet conenction from your phone to your PC.
plug in a wire from the ps3 to the PC
highlight the wireless icon, and the wired icon in your network manager and right click and hit bridge network connections.
it will work after that.
sfld said:
Yes it can be done. you need a laptop or a desktop to act as a middle man.
If your desktop or laptop has a wireless / wired port, simply share the internet conenction from your phone to your PC.
plug in a wire from the ps3 to the PC
highlight the wireless icon, and the wired icon in your network manager and right click and hit bridge network connections.
it will work after that.
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If you have a wireless router,that should make it all work. Set your mogul to connect to the wireless router and set the router to be 192.168.0.2 instead of its default. Now setup your devices with a static IP,on the same subnet and set the default gateway to be 192.168.0.1 (your moguls ip). In the earlier versions,this just works as is.
In the latest version,you will need to set some other settings on the phone as well. Go into your phones wifi settings and set the wifi adapter to 192.168.0.1 (earlier versions of wmwifirouter set this as the default,but the newer one is more flexible,so you need to specify this) Now,connect your wifi to your routers network. Next launch wmwifirouter. Clear the check mark next to dhcp allocator and adhoc netoworking. Network block should be set to the 192.168.0.x subnet. The router wont actually be used as a router,just as a network access point. Your mogul is actually the router. The clients are setup as before,with static IPs with a default gateway of 192.168.0.1.
This is how I connect my computer to the internet. I expect that it should work with any device that can be set with a static IP.
Thank you pflatlyne...
I have a wireless router but have not been using it as my computers can access the mogul directly. I will try your set up tonight.
Hopefully I can follow your instructions well enough to get it set up.
Thank you!!
WMwifiRouter and Xbox360
This did work with my 360 and WMwifiRouter. Had to config for my settings but it works!!! Yippee
EDIT
In case anyone asks, I did'nt need anything except my phone and 360. No router, or computer. Just fired up my wifi and entered the settings in my 360. It didn't see it, but it allowed me to edit my settings. I don't know about the PS3, wouldnt mind having one though. :..(
Hmmm....I still can't get it to work..
I'm not the most literate when it comes to how to do this.
Any chance of a detailed walkthrough on what to connect to what?
I have a desktop, an Actiontec wireless router, a wireless adapter for my desktop, mogul, and playstation....
Yes a step by step would be great. I have been trying to get the wireless router idea to work with no luck.
Mine works
What I did was what the other guy said with bridging the connection. once you connect your mogul to the computer and get online through the pc, connect an ethernet cable from your pc to the wifi routers main plug.
go to network connections
highlight your internet connection for the mogul and the one for the ethernet ( on my pc it is defaulted as internet connection 11 for the mogul and 12 for my NIC card) right click the highlighted connections and click bridge. connect the ps3 to one of the available hub slots and your ps3 should connect n/p.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A ROUTER...
you must purchase a cross over cable to get an internet connection directly from your pc to your ps3. the method is the exact same as above except no router.
when I use the htc wifi sharing app, and my brother connects his iphone to my hd2, the wifi works great. but when I try to connect my pc with a usb dongle, 802.11g, it will connect to the phone but the phone never gives the pc an ip address. windows xp just says acquiring ip address and hangs.any idea what I cann try?
thanks in advance
Wifi Sharing seems to be fishy at best. I've had the best lcuck using 3rd party apps. The following I have connected with, iphone, netbook, laptop, some pc's. I havn't been able to connect with a PS3, and some PC's.
I was able to connect with my macbook pro and pc laptop, but I couldn't get the iphone to connect at all!
Make sure your phones router is set with a name that has NO spaces in it ..
Also make sure your windows machines or any other for that fact are set to see ad-hoc connections .. I will quote myself from another thread ..
One thing to keep in mind that this wifi "Router" is not really a router , it is an ad-hoc connection, if your connecting device is not set to see ad-hoc connections , if it is set to "infrastructure" or "Access Points" only, it will not see it/or will see it but not connect.
Also most M$ clients older than W7 do not like spaces in the names of Ad-Hoc connections so set the name of your "Router" to not have a space in it ..
for me tested on,
1.) W7 Toshiba Satellite Laptop = OK
2.) Asus Laptop = OK
3.) Dell Laptop = OK
4.) Xbox-360 wireless = NOT OK
5.) UTstarcom Wifi Phone = NOT OK
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6848378#post6848378
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
Chopstix9 said:
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
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Or you could get a wireless adapter for your Desktop. That's what I did. Now I can stream Amazon Prime on my Xbox 360, and PC game at the same time.This is what I have and works like a charm.
Good luck.
Oh my desktop is already wireless enabled, that's not an issue... Been running the house off the phones for a couple years... Just gave up a little bit when I got rid of cable interet. Whole house networking to other computers in the house, had to plug the wireless printer back into the desktop, it's no longer a network printer, etc.... was just toying with the idea and wondering if it would work is all.
Actually, in looking at the micro usb - rj45 adapters, I don't think it will work. Those are actually ethernet adapters, like adding a network card to a slot on a pc. Made for taking a net signal FROM a network, not sending one TO it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you just get a compatible wireless dongle (Something you would use for sniffing/injecting packets) and use it as an access point so you can broadcast the signal throughout the house?
Another thing you can do is pick up a router that you can install Tomato or DD-WRT on and use it as a wireless client bridge. It would connect to your phone, and again, broadcast that signal through the house.
Chopstix9 said:
So I can use my standard USB cable and tether to the laptop and have net connection on lappy. Same with desktop. USB tether works just the same as wifi tether. What about getting a micro USB to RJ45 (ethernet) cable and tethering to the internet in jack on my router. Would that put the net signal on the router like a modem would?
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DJNads said:
Another thing you can do is pick up a router that you can install Tomato or DD-WRT on and use it as a wireless client bridge. It would connect to your phone, and again, broadcast that signal through the house.
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Correct. Assuming the phone would even operate in this manner (I've never tried but sounds like a great idea!), you'd need a router that is capable of operating in bridged mode/wireless bridge/access point mode (may be labeled as either of them). You'd then have to configure the router to said bridged mode. An easier route (and possibly more expensive) would be to purchase just an access point.
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Correct. Assuming the phone would even operate in this manner (I've never tried but sounds like a great idea!), you'd need a router that is capable of operating in bridged mode/wireless bridge/access point mode (may be labeled as either of them). You'd then have to configure the router to said bridged mode. An easier route (and possibly more expensive) would be to purchase just an access point.
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I may have an old WAP in my junk closet. A router that can bridge may work but first thing I think I would need is a router or WAP that has a USB connection on it.... I'm looking to plug the phone into the router to provide the internet signal instead of a cable/dsl modem, creating a typical LAN ... I can still use the LAN in-house sans the net connection. Just a pain to disconnect from one network (phone hotspot) and connect to another (netless LAN) for file transfers network printing etc ...
Chopstix9 said:
I may have an old WAP in my junk closet. A router that can bridge may work but first thing I think I would need is a router or WAP that has a USB connection on it.... I'm looking to plug the phone into the router to provide the internet signal instead of a cable/dsl modem, creating a typical LAN ... I can still use the LAN in-house sans the net connection. Just a pain to disconnect from one network (phone hotspot) and connect to another (netless LAN) for file transfers network printing etc ...
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You shouldn't need to physically connect your phone to the router at all. Depending on what router you get, it should be able to pick up the wireless signal from your phone's hotspot and rebroadcast it as its own network.
Edit: And honestly, I'm not sure connecting the phone via usb to the router would even share the connection. That router doesn't have the drivers needed for that to work.
To the OP, off topic question but what did you have to do to activate wi fi tether? your sig, tells me that your on stock and can still do it, yes? thanks!
Side note, it's been awhile but when I moved into my apartment I had no internet for a few days.
I did the USB wired tether to a laptop, then the laptop I think I enabled ICS/internet connection sharing and then connected with rj45 to a router, and it shared that as the WAN connection.
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To the OP, off topic question but what did you have to do to activate wi fi tether? your sig, tells me that your on stock and can still do it, yes? thanks!
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What part of my sig tells you I am on stock?
I've done both these things. I've taken my cell and flashed a router with dd-wrt and set it up as a repeater bridge but that means that only the computers near that router gets internet, unless your house is wired for ethernet (or using wireless). My current setup is having the phone tethered to a computer running Zentyal linux. This is a cool distro that can replace a 2008 Small business server in a work environment but it does the trick for my router at home. I had it running on an old P4 and recently graduated to a Zotac Zbox Mini ID41 which is tucked away behind my TV. I set up the computer to hand out dhcp and be the router and gateway. When i plug in my cell in tethering mode, zentyal recognizes it and i set that USB device as external WAN. It usually takes some getting used to and about a minute to normalize after the phone is unplugged and taken on the road. This has worked for me so far but when i'm at work, no internet at home. I'm currently attempting to talk my workplace into letting me subsidize a Verizon Jetpack i can leave home which will do the same job.
As a side note, i live in rural WI and we only have Satellite internet as a choice, which really stinks as both carriers have a bandwidth cap which we were constantly hitting two weeks into the billing cycle. They then throttle you down to less than a meg until your billing cycle renews.
We RV all summer most years and I use WiFiRanger gear to network our 5th wheel. That way we can grab a WiFi AP if one is available and the credentials are known or I HotSpot my phone and the Router grabs the phone's WiFi AP and we are good to go.
If you are stationary and only intend to use the phone's HotSpot as a WiFi AP then WiFiRanger's GO2 should do the trick. They are currently working on a firmware upgrade that will allow some great bandwidth monitoring and device usage controls. Their price is comparable to most full featured routers being offered but not cheap.
I am a satisfied user and Beta tester of their equipment, not an employee or representative. We use several of their offerings to maximize our capabilities on the road.