xperia uk deals - XPERIA X1 General

hi,
thanks to the massive incompetence of vodafone, i'm going to have to send my xperia and the other one that they've mistakenly sent me back in order to port my number over.
has anyone seen any good deals on the xperia in the uk ? i'd prefer vodafone as, despite their incompetence, i find the 3g coverage to be pretty good where i live ...
any suggestions ?

Lol
I had the same issue with them - bl00dy numpties with their 'at order time only' number porting system!! Every other provider will allow you to port in after receiving the phone!
I ended up buying sim-free. The only decent contract deals involved 18mnths-2yrs with voda which given their numpty-ness over the porting issue I did not fancy!
Play.com have xperia's for £479, voda do a basic contract (75 mins/500texts) for £10/mnth and their not-unlimited 500MB/mnth internet for £7.50 on top of that.
Works out OK for me cause I don't talk on my phones!
There's been a huge thread on Voda's eForum about the 'Unlimited Internet' which is actually limited to 500MB/mnth - how ofcom have let them get away with this is anyone's guess - the use of the term 'unlimited' should be banned unless what is being offered is indeed unlimited.
Nigel

three UK offer 1GB internet for just 5pound per month..

veletron said:
There's been a huge thread on Voda's eForum about the 'Unlimited Internet' which is actually limited to 500MB/mnth - how ofcom have let them get away with this is anyone's guess - the use of the term 'unlimited' should be banned unless what is being offered is indeed unlimited.
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couldn't agree more !

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Amazing deals on Orange SPV M3100 and T-Mobile Vario II

Just found an amazing deal for orange SPV M3100
a FREE SPV M3100 on Dolphin 35 which gives 500 x net mins, 500 texts and unlimited magic number calls (to a nominated orange number)
This offer also includes their free wireless broadband deal (which i had previously been told was only available when buying direct from orange)
They can also transfer your orange PAYG number to Orange contract (again i was previously told this was only available buying direct from orange)
AND 9 months 1/2 price rental - so total cost for 18 months is £472.50 (less than £26pm including phone and broadband)
There are other similar deals available, by far the cheapest i have found and much cheaper than orange direct / online / shop
checkout:
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/display.asp?hs=m3100&network=&tariff=&gift=&phone=Orange_M3100
also some amazing deals on the Vario II as well - lots of offers if you click on the link, they are actually cheaper than those listed when you select (as theres currently a £5 per month discount as well)
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/d...rk=&tariff=&gift=&phone=T-Mobile_MDA_Vario_II
HTC TyTN deals are also there, but tend to be more money (but are available with an O2 connection)
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/display.asp?hs=tytn&network=&tariff=&gift=&phone=HTC_TyTN
Someone pmd me to say the deals i had mentioned werent there!
It said on the site that over the weekend not all the deals were listed due to some technical issue with power failures and BT !!!
The issue has now been resolved and all deals are listed once more.
sounds like a good deal!
one word of warning though - i bought my orange m3100 from a different company on the internet - www.directmobilephones.com - because of the good deals etc, and whilst i had no problems recieving the phone, and they had good customer service during the buying process (replying to emails promptly etc.) i found out after a couple of weeks that they hadn't given orange the details for my number port or direct debit even though i had filled out these details on their online form!
so it's worth checking with orange when you register your phone that they have all the details if you don't buy direct...
hopefully this company is a bit better than the one i dealt with!
They look like good deals, but i thought the unlimited broadband was only available on panther 75 and even then you are limited to off peak unlimited broadband? Can you point us in the direction where is says you can get unlimited on dolphin 35? Cheers
i think he's refering to the unlimited home broadband rather than the unlimited mobile broadband.
Doesn't seem like any of the shops listed have either the Orange or the T-Mobile branded handset in stock
Doesn't seem like any of the shops listed have either the Orange or the T-Mobile branded handset in stock
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listed as 'in stock' on their website...
http://www.directmobilephones.com/spv_m3100_orange.htm
please note: if you do use them, check with orange about your number transfer / direct debit details if you're using those services!
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i think he's refering to the unlimited home broadband rather than the unlimited mobile broadband.
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Ahh, yep, your probably right. Even though them deals are good, i think I'll go with t-mobile online and get the unlimited mobile data. You end up paying more in the long run, but i think it'll be worth it! ;-)
Yes i was referring to unlimited home broadband, sorry for the confusion. Just to mention though that all the standard t-mobile deals are available through:
http://www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk/d...rk=&tariff=&gift=&phone=T-Mobile_MDA_Vario_II
just click on any of the deals, and it allows you to select any available online T-Mobile tariff option.
As has already been pointed out, T-Mobile are offering a £5 per month line rental discount on some plans plus other incentives as well.
ONLY Buy from T-Mobile Direct, else you will get screwed
I have been looking for two days and called scancom, who told me that T-mobile cut their commisions on phones back 40%, so they can never beat their prices, and they were right, they couldn't. SO IW ouldn't bother, go for the T-mobile sales people and you'll do better
Deals on m3100
I bought my Orange SPV M3100 from OneStopPhoneShop (part of CarPhone Warehouse).
£9.99 for the handset and 12 months on the Canary package at £30 per month. Includes 200 cross-network, anytime minutes and 2 months free subs to Orange World (their 3G service) as well as few other perks (30 mins video calling etc).
Total cost £370 over 12 months - now that's not bad IMO.
Hope this helps.
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bigshape said:
i think he's refering to the unlimited home broadband rather than the unlimited mobile broadband.
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Ahh, yep, your probably right. Even though them deals are good, i think I'll go with t-mobile online and get the unlimited mobile data. You end up paying more in the long run, but i think it'll be worth it! ;-)
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This is a very good point. There's no advantage to going with Orange apart from the slightly more attractive veneer on their version of the TyTn.
The online deal quoted earlier?
Well is that 9months half price line rental (in logical human terms)....
Or 9 months' worth of cashback after 6 months if you fill in a form on time...
Or two months half price, another two months full price, then two months full price.....
I don't trust these online companies as far as i can throw them.
Mikeycolllins is right when he says to go through T-mobile, it's just easier to get things sorted that way. And slightly off-topic, but if you ever get to know anyone who works at T-mobile they can only offer you half price line rental if you've gone directly through them, and not a third party.
To get anything like i currently do on Tmob on Orange we're talking 26quid for the dolphin package (as quoted earlier) plus 88 quid for unlimited internet (based on their online data price guide, and limited to 1gb as opposed to Tmob's 2gb). The free broadband will be useless to most people on here who are already contractually obligated to NTL/BT/TALKTALK etc.
Thats an average of 114 quid a month times 18 = 2052 quid.
I know that's taking things to extremes, but it proves a point - the only way you're gonna wind up with a better deal on orange is if you only use wifi. And that would be crap.
So basically i'm stickin with T-Mobile for now methinks.
I think we can all agree on that. For most phone users those Orange deals are very very good. For this specific phone with its data capabilities and the type of users we have in this forum, the T-Mobile deal is just heads over heels better than anything else out there.
I think the comments made are quite right, Orange is definitely the more expensive option (despite the freebies) if you are wanting a high mobile data usage.
I have just heard that Orange are cutting their commissions by £60 on 18 month contracts as from 1st October, so looks like the freebies will start to disappear shortly.
I have noticed that the onestopphoneshop deals have all disappeared within the last hour or so. Their cheapest deal was 12 month on Dolphin 25 at £360 (which is the one bigshape got) but now the same deal is £459 - a £99 increase since 8pm tonight.
The orange deal suits me, as i dont need much mobile data as i have wifi at home and work, and my home broadband is up for renewal anyway, so I have effectively got a FREE M3100 for £26 per month, but saved £17 by switching my broadband deal - so an M3100 for £9 per month including 500 texts and 500 minutes?
sounds unbeatable to me!
just to re-iterate though, :!:
The T-mobile deals on www.cheapest4mobiles.co.uk are actually direct from T-mobile themselves, - It is quite correct that the best discounts at the moment are direct from T-Mobile, thats why they are listed as such on the website.
The website simply runs a search over all available deals from a selection of retailers (one of which being T-mobile) and shows the best deal it can find. It also does Carphonewarehouse, onestopphoneshop, Orange, O2 and many more.
Am I the only person who thinks that rival companies should consider adopting T-mobile's simple 'credit' principle instead of drowning consumers in 'freebies' (20 minutes of video calls for the first 35 days, 'mate rates' half price line rental* free Msn [till october])I think 3 are the worst for this, but all the mainstream companies revel in confusing the less-sharp amongst us with verbiage and tantalising 'extras', seemingly in the hope that we'll forget that their freebie often doesn't last forever.
Of course this tactic has been prevalent in consumer marketing for years - but I believe T-mobile will win through with their straightforward and fair price plans, and their data bundles - as we have ascertained in this forum - are streets ahead of the competition.
3 have just brought out a 3g datacard. I noticed it in Superdrug this afternoon. I spoke to the 'advisor' about it briefly and by the end of the conversation he had told me rather enthusiastically that he was going to take out a t-mobile web n walk datacard plan!
I considered many price plans, and been on many different networks. From my experience I have concluded that the decisive factor in my skyrocketing phone bills was simply apathy. We are all guilty of it, and phone companies rely on it to make the big bucks. How many times have you overshot your minutes allowance, or forgot you only had texts instead of minutes?
The Flext plan is incredibly reassuring in its simplicity, and really does adapt to my changing needs (some months i call a lot, others i text a lot)
Though Orange and O2 may potentially offer more minutes and texts as a whole, this clouds the fact that many consumers NEVER use all of both their minutes AND texts, unless they make a concerted effort to do so.
Adaptability, simplicity and value for money are I believe important to most consumers.
Certainly they are to me.
P.s. What is 'Orange World'? Is that an open 3g browsing experience, or another Vodafone Live! ?
Personally I didn't buy my Vario II so I could check train times and download Novelty ringtones.
*for the first 3 months.
Now, I have a question.
Will any of these places ship to a US address? I ask cause it would almost make sense to get the phone with the cheapest plan and pay the money every month for a year and then cancel. But I am not sure how the european providers are and how long are their contracts. I do have some friends in england I could ship the device if I needed too. but what is everyones thoughts on this?
Not sure about this question as i dont know the vetting procedure, but I would assume you have to go through a UK credit check, part of which would probably be to check you were a UK citizen on the electoral register. I know my cousin had loads of problems because she was in the British Army stationed in Germany. Her parents had emigrated to France and she effectively had no valid UK address except her barracks. Orange were very awkward about this and would not give her a contract phone at all, despite the fact she had been an Orange customer for 3 years already.
All links to the MDA Vario II from your link, to the T-mobile site seem to be broken. In fact there is now no mention of that phone on their website. Anyone any ideas ???
looks like a problem with the T mobile site maybe they are doing some late night maintenance ? try again later methinks!
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Not sure about this question as i dont know the vetting procedure, but I would assume you have to go through a UK credit check, part of which would probably be to check you were a UK citizen on the electoral register. I know my cousin had loads of problems because she was in the British Army stationed in Germany. Her parents had emigrated to France and she effectively had no valid UK address except her barracks. Orange were very awkward about this and would not give her a contract phone at all, despite the fact she had been an Orange customer for 3 years already.
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You usually have to be a UK resident for at least 5 years i think and have lived at the same address for at least 3 years to normally get credit, and even then if you have had no credit, like for example, a credit card, loan, mortgage etc, then you will have no 'credit rating' and will struggle to get any credit at all.

T-Mobile pricing mistake

I've just been to my local T-Mobile UK shop to have a look at the Ameo before buying it. I was asking about the prices and the assistant (I think he must have been the manager) showed me the printed price list for the various tariffs. The one that stuck out was Flext 35+ (I think - it was £47.50 pm) with the cost of the handset at £119. It was completely at odds with the prices on the other plans - ie the ones costing more per month were much more expensive. The guy said it was probably a typo but he would put it through as that and override it if necessary. It was and it should have been £309. As you can imagine I was well pleased and I bought it on the spot!
I won't say which T-Mobile shop as I don't want to get him into trouble but if you are interested I think it would be worth going down to your local shop and see what they could do...
thats the same deal i got it for online. they obviously made a mistake cos they changed it online two days later!
still, I'm not complaining!
God damn it, I could have saved myself £200!!! Well done for baggin the bargin though!
I got mine from T-mobile online, I paid £240 for the phone but im only paying £37.50 for the FlexT35 + web and walk for the entire life of the contract (min 18 months)
Yeah i got mine cheep too on same deal had to override system when putting it thru and i just kept my moth shut was a bargain now i just want WM6....
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Yeah i got mine cheep too on same deal had to override system when putting it thru and i just kept my moth shut was a bargain now i just want WM6....
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I dont understand why you guys think this is such a good deal, even though I paid more for my phone (£240) over the 18 month minimum contract, I am paying less @ 37.50 per month. My deal is still available direct from the T-mobile website !!
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I've just been to my local T-Mobile UK shop to have a look at the Ameo before buying it. I was asking about the prices and the assistant (I think he must have been the manager) showed me the printed price list for the various tariffs. The one that stuck out was Flext 35+ (I think - it was £47.50 pm) with the cost of the handset at £119. It was completely at odds with the prices on the other plans - ie the ones costing more per month were much more expensive. The guy said it was probably a typo but he would put it through as that and override it if necessary. It was and it should have been £309. As you can imagine I was well pleased and I bought it on the spot!
I won't say which T-Mobile shop as I don't want to get him into trouble but if you are interested I think it would be worth going down to your local shop and see what they could do...
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I have been into T-mobile today and this is definitly still avalible and is a pricing mistake picking mine up tommorow £119 for the handset flex35 + £7.50 web and walk £42.50 should be £219 or more for the handset
SITS said:
I've just been to my local T-Mobile UK shop to have a look at the Ameo before buying it. I was asking about the prices and the assistant (I think he must have been the manager) showed me the printed price list for the various tariffs. The one that stuck out was Flext 35+ (I think - it was £47.50 pm) with the cost of the handset at £119. It was completely at odds with the prices on the other plans - ie the ones costing more per month were much more expensive. The guy said it was probably a typo but he would put it through as that and override it if necessary. It was and it should have been £309. As you can imagine I was well pleased and I bought it on the spot!
I won't say which T-Mobile shop as I don't want to get him into trouble but if you are interested I think it would be worth going down to your local shop and see what they could do...
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Hi
have a look at this !!!!
T-Mobile Zakelijk 1 Jaar 2 Jaar
Optimaal 2x € 299.00 € 25.00
(www.smartphonestunts.nl)
This is a dutch website (at which I bought my universal)
This is with a so-called business plan, which is 2x dataplan. at 12,50 each per month.
so 12months x12,50 x 2 x 2years + 25 phone = 625,- euro for a brand new Athena
and with a nice spread "payment" plan.
nice huh. ?
greetings,
Wout
ps. who can not afford 25euro per month ?
bond007 said:
I have been into T-mobile today and this is definitly still avalible and is a pricing mistake picking mine up tommorow £119 for the handset flex35 + £7.50 web and walk £42.50 should be £219 or more for the handset
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is it a 12 month or 18 month contract?
wu5262 said:
is it a 12 month or 18 month contract?
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18 but you can reduce the tariff after 6 months
ice_coffee said:
I dont understand why you guys think this is such a good deal, even though I paid more for my phone (£240) over the 18 month minimum contract, I am paying less @ 37.50 per month. My deal is still available direct from the T-mobile website !!
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To be honest there's very little in it. you save £5 a month over 18 months. you save £90 on the contract, i saved £120 on the purchase price. By my crappy maths, that means I still save £30 less over all than you. but then, I didn't have £240 to spend on the phone so I am happy. and I certainly couldn't afford the £700-750 that places are charging for the HTC branded one. So for me, this was a great deal.
I treat contracts like H.P. I cant get credit, but i can get phone contracts, so i simply use them to spread the cost.
plus if I remember right, you dont get HSDPA on web and walk standard. unless you find a gormless t-mobile drone to add it for you without upping you to pro which is what came with this price mistake.
If this thing had a dvd drive and could rip dvd's, my PC would be in the freeads quicker than you could say 'HTC'!
In the end, for me it was a great deal cos otherwise i wouldn't have been able to get the thing. maybe you earn more than I do and have more disposable income and can pay more for the initial payment, and so it doesn't strike you as such an amazing a good deal. But to me and the others who may not have been able to afford one without this screw up on the initial price, its f'ing superb!!
err... i got the 119 price as well but had to pay a higher rate for the web n walk pro so that i could use the phone as a modem. thd said they could tell the difference- was i duped???
i guess they could tell if i was doing voip due to port number and i do get a higher d/l limit
You werent "duped" if they sold the service for the use you stated.
Of course that doesnt mean a lots of people dont use it as a modem anyway without telling T-Mobile, but that is T-Mobile getting 'duped' really.
It sucks that T-Mobile price this way, but considering the data plans from everybody else, count yourself lucky.
I just wish T-Mob had usable signal and working voice. My wife now refuses to phone me on this number because of the 95% failure rate of calls.
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You werent "duped" if they sold the service for the use you stated.
Of course that doesnt mean a lots of people dont use it as a modem anyway without telling T-Mobile, but that is T-Mobile getting 'duped' really.
It sucks that T-Mobile price this way, but considering the data plans from everybody else, count yourself lucky.
I just wish T-Mob had usable signal and working voice. My wife now refuses to phone me on this number because of the 95% failure rate of calls.
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are you sure about that? I recently change from Vodafone to T-mobile, and two thing i am sure is T-mobile phone signal is much better then Vodafone (at least in London), and their internet works really well, you will never want to use Athena with Vodafone.....!
Vodafone must REALLY suck then, because I normally get 1 or maybe 2 bars signal on UMTS, with frequent dropping to GPRS when out and about. (Central London).
When i visit family outside of London I am forced onto GPRS only and sometimes lose signal completely.
The quality of the internet isnt really an issue, it works. Its quite good for what you pay, but the voice service on T-Mobile is terrible.
I had people complaining my phone was never on, when it always is. So I did an experiment, I had my phone on, with full signal. The person STOOD NEXT TO ME tried to call me on speakerphone, and we both heard a failed call claiming my phone was not available.
Often the call completes, but nobody can hear anything or only one-way voice or it just cuts off for no reason.
Outgoing calls often fail for no reason, just drop after dialing as if there is no network when there is.
I dont consider this to be good by any stretch of imagination, if your telling me Vodafone is worse, we are all in trouble. At least Orange are joinging the "all you can eat" data bandwagon soon! Ill be swapping back to them as soon as my T-Mob contract is nearly up.
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Vodafone must REALLY suck then, because I normally get 1 or maybe 2 bars signal on UMTS, with frequent dropping to GPRS when out and about. (Central London).
When i visit family outside of London I am forced onto GPRS only and sometimes lose signal completely.
The quality of the internet isnt really an issue, it works. Its quite good for what you pay, but the voice service on T-Mobile is terrible.
I had people complaining my phone was never on, when it always is. So I did an experiment, I had my phone on, with full signal. The person STOOD NEXT TO ME tried to call me on speakerphone, and we both heard a failed call claiming my phone was not available.
Often the call completes, but nobody can hear anything or only one-way voice or it just cuts off for no reason.
Outgoing calls often fail for no reason, just drop after dialing as if there is no network when there is.
I dont consider this to be good by any stretch of imagination, if your telling me Vodafone is worse, we are all in trouble. At least Orange are joinging the "all you can eat" data bandwagon soon! Ill be swapping back to them as soon as my T-Mob contract is nearly up.
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btw, you haven't activate the always on Internet tweak right? i think your experience is very strange and not normal, i have lots of T-mobile friends, and they don't report such an issue, is it possible by your setting?
And also, i don't use GPRS at all, i force my device to only connect to 3G network, and i still get good signal all the time.
It is a good deal i got the web and walk + tariff so i can use my ameo as a modem at no extra cost with unlimited usage so if i wana do some serious browsing or on line gaming on my laptop whilst on way to work this price plan is great i was with o2 for about 7 years previous i thought they were great and always had a nice new xda device to try after my contract expired but t mobile is so much better i use my athena way more than any other because of the unlimited internet and i also get text reminders to let me know how many inclusive flext minutes/texts i have at least once a week im as happy as pie with my tarrif and price of phone as i managed to sell a crap old Nokia N80 on ebay to cover the cost so i didnt even feel the purchase,,
This just shows how all things are subjective... spzero likes the flext reminder messages, they just really annoy me and are now disabled.
I think O2 were much better than TMob, i would have stayed with them if it wasnt for the flat rate data from web&walk.
I have lots of friends on TMob too and they say its crap for them too. I have tried different phones and same problems so its not settings. There is no setting to make incoming calls fail before they get to my phone! I had a TMob contract many years back and it was total rubbish then. I thought by now it would have been better, but I was wrong.
If I force UMTS only, i would lose all signal often. Maybe it works fine where you live, but for me it doesnt.
They just dont have the coverage. If they did there would be no need for a postcode checker on the site to make sure they cover your area. All other networks just assume everywhere is covered except TMob.
I have TMob only because of Web&Walk. When other networks get better data plans ill move, preferably to O2, but maybe to Orange.
My main hate for TMob is the customer (dis)service. I wont list the whole story here, but lets just say they have treated me like crap on many occations.
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... When other networks get better data plans ill move, preferably to O2, but maybe to Orange. ...
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I personally found O2 customer service somewhere beneath awful. Anyway, that aside, as I understand it O2 will be announcing new and more competitive data plans shortly.
I live in London, and have never had a problem with T-mobiles service and coverage.
The customer service is another matter....
At least their latest cockup benefits me instead of them, the £325 I paid upfront via credit card for the Ameo has since been credited to my account, and two months later, after 2 bills, I am still around £260 in credit.
Here's hoping they won't spot their error...

Orange Data E-Petition

I know its a long shot, but instead of moaning about the data charges, lets see if we can do something about them. Please sign and circulate this petiton link to any i.t./technology/mobile website you can think of.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/orangedata/
"We, the undersigned, ask that Orange U.K. offer an unlimited data plan for multimedia handsets.
We believe that constant internet connectivity is what makes these handsets great; it is the essential point: having omnipresent and fast access to the internet and our data. The terrific hardware, software, and platform design serve this purpose. For example, the new H.T.C. Touch H.D. is now being used by Microsoft in their "Life Without Walls" campaign. However low data allowances from Orange as opposed to other mobile service providers in the U.K., serves only to negate this inference of digital freedom.
If we cannot use our devices to their full potential for fear of 'going over our limit', then they cannot function as it was intended. If we must hesitate before using it, it is broken.
Therefore, we ask that Orange offer an unlimited data plan for our multimedia, internet dependent mobile telephones."
Why won't you just ask for a better deal?
When I have signed up for new contract with orange (used to be with o2) I have just told them over the phone, that I won't take it without them giving me higher data allowance. The guy put me on hold and after like 5 minutes he said that they can offer me upgrade from 250mb to 1Gb. No extra cost!
Well... today I have send the mobile back - sadly reception at work was so poor that there was no point keeping the contract and mobile - what use is it if you can't use it? I'm waiting for o2 - and I'm getting HD from them...
The Orange plan is marketed as 'unlimited'. But subject to a ridiculous 'fair usage' clause of 250MB (or is it 500MB).
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The Orange plan is marketed as 'unlimited'. But subject to a ridiculous 'fair usage' clause of 250MB (or is it 500MB).
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It's an enforced 250mb - instead of being a "we expect it to be about this much for average use" it's actually a case of "use more, and we charge you per MB"
Vodafone have their limit at 500mb, T-Mobile is 1GB
O2, however, does not state a limit at all for their consumer contracts (PAYG and Business are 200MB though!) and merely say "please don't take the piss"
Apparently it has been said that O2 semi-publicly state that they have not yet applied a limit to any of their consumer customers.
In my opinion the reason Orange is lagging behind here is that they've not really had a particularly well advertised or developed mobile internet service on their phones. O2 has iPhone and Bolt Ons, Voda has Blackberry (and possibly the most developed HSDPA network in the UK), T-Mobile has Web-N-Walk, Orange has...... um.....
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Why won't you just ask for a better deal?
When I have signed up for new contract with orange (used to be with o2) I have just told them over the phone, that I won't take it without them giving me higher data allowance. The guy put me on hold and after like 5 minutes he said that they can offer me upgrade from 250mb to 1Gb. No extra cost!
Well... today I have send the mobile back - sadly reception at work was so poor that there was no point keeping the contract and mobile - what use is it if you can't use it? I'm waiting for o2 - and I'm getting HD from them...
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Do you think I didn't try that? This is part of the problem with Orange, they give one thing to one person and another to another. I have been with them for twelve years and am apparantly rated as premium (bill usually round the £100 each month) and was told there was no way they could offer an increased data allowance. If you don't mind pm'ing me your name, I might ring them back and ask why I was lied to...
However this is not the point. The point is is that these devices should be coming with decent data packages as standard now as they are multimedia devices.
I've actually got off the phone from a mate at Microsoft. I asked him about the 250mb limit wall in their "life without walls" campaign, and suggested that if Microsoft are advertising Orange products, they should be asking them to match what the rival iphone has as a data tariff. I also suggested that the phone should be better set up out of the box for the 90% of Joe Public who are never going to come to this forum, and think their new toy is broke because of no sms sent confirmation, rubbish alarm and the duplicate contacts issue.
He's asked me to put it all in an email, and is going to get the "Windows Mobile Team" to call me tomorrow to hear my ideas. Incidently, he has heard that no WM7 for a year from now, and hadn't even heard when/if 6.5 is due. He did say he'd played with 7 and it was, "****** amazing".
have a look at the business prices here:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?c=OUKPage&cid=1044131837716&pagename=Business
I've just upgraded 2 handsets with Orange business this week and got the unlimited (5gb I guess?) packages for less than a tenner each after some complaining and being put through to retentions
That looks like mobile broadband,
Not quite the same thing, as one usually uses a usb stick and the other is data from phone.

T-Mobile & Orange Merging!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8243226.stm
Looks like it wont matter if your Orange or T-Mobile for the Hero as now they are the same company!
Just as long as I don't get onto a plan called Monkey, Baboon, Whale Shark, or any other animal, I don't mind!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Just as long as I don't get onto a plan called Monkey, Baboon, Whale Shark, or any other animal, I don't mind!
Regards,
Dave
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I would go for Gorilla!
as long I get my 3gb of data I'll be happy not some bs 500mb
True - if they tried to cut my data allowance down to the derisory orange 500mb, I'd be walking away from my contract.
Regards,
Dave
T-Mobile.NL already BOUGHT (not merged) with Orange.NL in 2008.
The technical process is not finished yet (mostly on the prepaid area),
According to the BBC:
Both brands will remain separate for the first 18 months after the deal is completed while branding is reviewed.
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Given that this is being pitched very much as a merger, rather than a takeover or outright purchase, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a new brand coming out of this network.
Regards,
Dave
kalairn said:
as long I get my 3gb of data I'll be happy not some bs 500mb
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I moved from Orange to T-mobile for this reason - I hope they do not start reducing the data allowance!
justbabu said:
I moved from Orange to T-mobile for this reason - I hope they do not start reducing the data allowance!
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its the reason i never went to orange
I joined T-Mobile over Orange, I was fed up with them useless twats over at Vodafone so either way i'm not bothered. Vodafone suck massively!
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I moved from Orange to T-mobile for this reason - I hope they do not start reducing the data allowance!
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same here.
Haha just left orange for T-mo because i didn't want to pay any excess on the hero, didn't want a muggish 24month contract either. Find this rather ironic really. At least orange haven't lost my custom fully. Found this on The Guardian's site if anyone want's a little more info on whats going on http://m.guardian.co.uk/?id=102202&...co.uk/money/2009/sep/08/tmobile-orange-merger
I'm with orange, and I hope this merger between both businesses means better customer services, better price plans, better coverage and most importantly better data packages; not some crappy 500MB limit I'm on now.
Although; a merger like this could be potentially bad as it would limit competition and in return be bad for us consumers, we'l just have to wait and see what happens.

T-Mobile...wtf?

So here's the deal...
I've been with T-Mobile from the beginning - from waaaaay back when they were Mercury 121.
If I was to ring up T-Mobile as a new customer, I can get the phone for free, on the same tariff that I have now.
However, as an existing customer, if I want to upgrade to a HD2 I have to pay £140!
I think I'm gonna give OFCOM a call...
Yeah... I've had this in the past too. When I checked via the web for an upgrade to the Diamond from a Vario II, they quoted about £190. A new customer would have paid about £40. I thought it was a mistake, so went into my local T-nob-ile shop, and the girl said "Nope, can't do it any cheaper than £190". She made several phone calls to people, the manager came down, but nope, no can do. I said "OK, cancel the contract and I'll take out a new one please".... and then she says "But you do realise you will lose your number Sir?" I just replyed with "I'll group text all my contacts my new number. And I can remember an 11 digit number thank you."
It is a shambles of a system - I'll go in with a print out from Mobiles Direct too this time.
And I will kick arse....
Could you not just order a new phone as a new customer, whilst letting you existing contract continue, then get a PAC code from you old contract and move it to your new one? Yu would only have a few days of overlap...?
dugald5 said:
Could you not just order a new phone as a new customer, whilst letting you existing contract continue, then get a PAC code from you old contract and move it to your new one? Yu would only have a few days of overlap...?
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Most of the networks will tell you that you can't go from contract to contract on the same network and keep the number. This is an absolute lie, and you could go down a lengthy legal process to prove it, but it's not worth it over a phone number.
The best way to do it is to get a PAYG SIM, transfer your existing number to that, and then get a new contract (as a new customer) and transfer the number from the PAYG SIM to the new contract.
It's a pain in the arse. It's yet ANOTHER way that the telecomms companies try to rape you into submission.
Rant over. That advice still stands though
I'm with T-mobile using Solo (£20pcm) and thought I could just cancel and get a HD.
I got my PAC as I wanted to keep my number and then I got a call and was told however that I would need to upgrade or give them the 30days notice and then come in as a new customer.
they then offered me a deal rather than waiting the 30 days cancelling and coming back.
I could Upgrade effective immediately with the phone for free on a deal 18 month contract with the normal rates as per site. (now paying £40pcm flext = £225pcm spend limit and free internet)
so its true you can get upgrade phone for free. even if you were paying as little as £20pcm
Well I've just checked online for my upgrade as I am now in my final month, and it dosen't give me the option to upgrade to the HD2 - the Compact 5 (Touch Diamond 2) is as far as I can go - and that's if I pay £214.26!!!
Time to ring and cancel I think.
Tw*ts.
As a T-mobile (UK) customer my self with HD2 on that contract what you have to do is tell them what they already know they have to match the contracts for new and exsisting users this is how i got mine when they were not even out on t-mob. This works and they know it just want to try get the £140 out of you if they can hope this helps
The HD2 has just shown up in my online upgrade.... it's mine for £340!!!!
LOL! LOL! PMSL!! Christ, I'd hate to work for Tmobile right now, 'cos someone is gonna get a bashing!
Sorry to dig this thread back up, but after ringing them and asking for my PAC (code), and saying £340 was just plain silly, thye did offer me the phone on the Combi20 with internet (total £25) for £130. I said I can go to mobilephonesdirect and have the phone on this contract for £93. I was put on hold for 5 minutes and they said they could do it for £100. So I accepted. Should be here before 1pm tomorrow.
Only downside is it's likely to be looked to a T-Mobile ROM - unless you're lucky to get an unbranded one...
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Only downside is it's likely to be looked to a T-Mobile ROM - unless you're lucky to get an unbranded one...
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It'll be flashed by the end of the day!
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It'll be flashed by the end of the day!
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You're likely to loose your warranty then. I just moved from 3 to Virgin after they gave me some crap upgrade deals. You can port your number no problem and its unlocked and unbranded so i'm quite happy. Plus Virgin uses t-mob's network so you'd get the same coverage.
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You're likely to loose your warranty then. I just moved from 3 to Virgin after they gave me some crap upgrade deals. You can port your number no problem and its unlocked and unbranded so i'm quite happy. Plus Virgin uses t-mob's network so you'd get the same coverage.
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I checked Virgin's deal on the HD2 a few days back, pretty good, seems like the best out of all networks actually (?)
Is the high speed (HSDPA) network shared too?
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I checked Virgin's deal on the HD2 a few days back, pretty good, seems like the best out of all networks actually (?)
Is the high speed (HSDPA) network shared too?
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yes, it is
iv never payed for a mobile phone and i never will. vodafone have tried it on a few times but after asking for my pac code they always gave in. iv now moved onto o2 as voda dont do 3g in my area (and their customer services is pathetic) and got my hd2 online for £30 a month, £7.50 internet bolt on and the handset for free.mind you, its a 2 year contract but i can live with that. it would break my heart to pay for a mobile.........
T-Mobile wouldn't move till I asked for my PAC
I got the HD2 for free with 600mins, unlimited net, lots of texts, for
£35 on 18 months on T-Mobile
I've had it for a month.
Plenty of different roms tried, etc.
ACE
madcapmagician said:
So here's the deal...
I've been with T-Mobile from the beginning - from waaaaay back when they were Mercury 121.
If I was to ring up T-Mobile as a new customer, I can get the phone for free, on the same tariff that I have now.
However, as an existing customer, if I want to upgrade to a HD2 I have to pay £140!
I think I'm gonna give OFCOM a call...
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FYI, my contract had a month left to run so I phoned them and told them I was going to cancel my contract, after a bit of bartering I got the HTC HD2 for £8 a month with unlimited text. It arrived the next day and I swopped the sim with my unlimited web sim. must have been my lucky day.
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yes, it is
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sh500 said:
I checked Virgin's deal on the HD2 a few days back, pretty good, seems like the best out of all networks actually (?)
Is the high speed (HSDPA) network shared too?
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I've tested this and I think Virgin only get limited bandwidth from T-mobile. Side-by-side tests using a HD2 with a Virgin sim, and a HD2 with a T-mobile sim showed Virgin to have less than a quarter of the download speed of T-mobile. Having said that, for every-day browsing from the mobile, the speed on Virgin is fine. But if you fancy high speed downloads, or streaming high quality video, than I don't think Virgin will perform as well as T-mobile per se or O2.
I was paying £40 pcm with three and expected a mammoth upgrade deal and got not even as much as a pound off the current advertised deals they have. One or two deals they offered were actually more. Anger isn't even the word... I wanted to kill someone! They had the cheek to tell me that with the new deal I would be making a huge saving on my old plan and that was the saving.
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I've tested this and I think Virgin only get limited bandwidth from T-mobile. Side-by-side tests using a HD2 with a Virgin sim, and a HD2 with a T-mobile sim showed Virgin to have less than a quarter of the download speed of T-mobile. Having said that, for every-day browsing from the mobile, the speed on Virgin is fine. But if you fancy high speed downloads, or streaming high quality video, than I don't think Virgin will perform as well as T-mobile per se or O2.
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Could be but like you said, doesnt really matter for every-day browsing

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