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I was just wondering what is the average time of battery life on your wing..mines is currently about 10 hours idle but while im using it that goes down to about 5 or 4 i just wanted to know what is the average before i call t-mobile and ask for a new battery.
A few of us here have been having problems with the battery actually. When I first got the phone, I left it clean and stock. I would do a lot of texting, make a couple phone calls, and play a few games here and there. From 7am to 1am, I would go from 100% to about 54% (18 hours of usage). Now, if I leave my phone idle for 2 hours, my battery drops down from 100% to 80%... I can't even go a full day without needing to charge the darn thing. 200 hour idle time my arse!
But personally, I don't think it's a problem with the battery... The phone is doing something in the background which is causing a massive battery drain. Right now, I'm testing my phone to see if I still suffer the same drain while in flight mode. I'll post the results HERE in about an hour from now.
The longest the battery can last is 1 week...
On a full charge, you can talk for 5 hours...
the more features you use, the more power it'll consume.. if you do a lot of internet browsing, I believe I saw GPRS Data connections use more power then WiFi.. so use wifi when available ...
also, be sure to regularly check your phone's task manager before setting it aside for long periods of time... sometimes it can be hard to notice the camera, text/mms, calender, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, are all running in the background while you're at the home screen...
My wing usually lasts me from unplug at 8am until plugin at midnight... power usage always varies a lot as... as you can tell.. the data connections use a lot of power... and if wifi isn't available, it uses at least 30% more power doing a GPRS Transfer -- based on the initial information i've read about the issue.
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The longest the battery can last is 1 week...
On a full charge, you can talk for 5 hours...
the more features you use, the more power it'll consume.. if you do a lot of internet browsing, I believe I saw GPRS Data connections use more power then WiFi.. so use wifi when available ...
also, be sure to regularly check your phone's task manager before setting it aside for long periods of time... sometimes it can be hard to notice the camera, text/mms, calender, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player, are all running in the background while you're at the home screen...
My wing usually lasts me from unplug at 8am until plugin at midnight... power usage always varies a lot as... as you can tell.. the data connections use a lot of power... and if wifi isn't available, it uses at least 30% more power doing a GPRS Transfer -- based on the initial information i've read about the issue.
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I noticed Bluetooth and WiFi taking more battery than GPRS
As long as I plug it in while I am at work to a USB cable, I don't seem to have any battery problems. I use GPRS and SMS constantly.
I spend the whole day on the phone ... between texting and I receive all my work email directly to my phone... so I'm on it various times during the hour... and it seems the battery drain is huge.
all I have done is turn the screen brightness down whenever I'm not using it, and have the dynamic overclocking on, so the processor goes down whenever its not in use ... but I still think the battery drain on the wing is ridiculous.
Well david, overclocking doesnt help
Im clocked at 247mhz, i can make it last about 24 hours using it here and there. calls about once a hour for 5 min or less, texting through the day, and occasional wifi use. at stock clock speeds, it lasted about a day and a half, but it all depends how much you use it
At 1st i thought the battery darin was rediculous as well but when u think about it when u use it the battery goes down about 8 times as fast( depensing on what ur actually doing w/ it.
Now i charge it at night and go to school with fully loaded battery 6AM, i text all the time and when i get home its around 85% 2:30PM, use it occasionally and at the end of the day after at least 3 hours of talk time its on around 30-20% i could last w/o charging it but i charge it overnight to full, with NORMAL use and not talking for about 4 hours per day so far its lasted 4 days for me. could have made it to 6 but i wanted to showoof my new phone to my friend
so battery life is not that bad just depends how much u use it, Also if ur listening to music just turn off the screen and thats a REAL battery saver. also press the power button when on the phone and etc.
Wing Battery Drain
I have improved my Wing battery drain by doing the following...
- Turn off the automatic weather update on the Today Plug-in
- Check my emails manually (do send receive when I am ready to read)
- Suspend device when not in use - need to use device lock app.
- Update ROM to PDA Viet v 14 (thanks to easy instructions from David)
With the new ROM and the device locked - even the accidental press of any of the face buttons (when phone is in pocket) turns the device back on - even though the screen remains locked (due the Device lock app). Is there any way to suspend the device completely so can only be turned on by hitting the power button only? I would still want to receive / answer calls etc. without having to hit the power button....
Go to settings, Lock ... and there is an option to lock all buttons except the power button when device is powered down.
I am trying to fix my sisters Wing (I have a Wizard). I have tried disabling background programs, as well as setting things to be more gentle on power usage, and still she loses battery like crazy. I know the Wizard had some battery drain issues with certain WM6 cooked roms, and a cab fix helped. Does anyone have a cab fix for the Wing? Also, reading in this forum section, it seems that the Wing doesn't always disable background programs. Would you suggest a third party task manager to "pick up the slack" or does it not matter, due to the nature of the winged beast?
I appreciate any suggestions. While I am new to the Herald, I am "old hat" on the Wizard, so I do have a general understanding of how the HTC devices work.
Thank you in advance.
I have read a lot of bad stuff about battery life with every rom except the OME t-mo. I had the PDA viet and battery life was terrible, With the stock rom it is at least 4x longer.
hello ive the same problem with the last 4 wings ive and ever since ive switch from the stock Tmo OS and upgraded to the TouchFlo OS, Ive noticed a huge differnce with the battery life even overclocked
If your will to taking the risk ide say go for it, i jus started messing around with rom and i got say its a big improvment from the original wing which i was ready to throw against a wall!!
I have Touch Flo on my Wing, and if I charge it to capacity I usually only need to do so it every other day so long as I don't play any NES games on it. I keep the wifi off if I'm not using it of course. I have it dynamically stepping the CPU in a range from 100mhz to 234mhz. It really seems to help extend the battery for me, while still giving it the tiny extra kick it needs to run nes and sms games.
My wife has the official wm6 rom on hers, but is also dynamically overclocked as mine is. She needs to charge hers nightly, BUT she also plays solitaire and bubble breaker daily.
Overall it's on par for battery life with my prior motorola phone, which I never used for anything but regular phone calls. With that in mind I'm not necessarily impressed, but am definitely content with it.
I've had HORRIBLE battery life and AWESOME battery life, all within the same week. lol
There was a problem I had at one time, where filesys.exe would take over all the CPU and kill my battery.
Here's what I do, though.
Dynamic overclocking/underclocking
Turn off GPRS when not in use
Disable Push Mail
Turn off WIFI and Bluetooth
Turn the screen brightness down
Turn off the screen altogether, even when on a call, unless you need to see what's on it
There's a few tweaks out there that deal with enabling the power saving features on L2TP and stuff...
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I've had my wing about a week now and have a question concerning battery usage.
It has always been my understanding that batteries will develop a "memory" if you charge and recharge them under their full charge capacity.
i.e. if you use it down to 60% and then charge it to 100% it will remember that and not use the full original 100% charge. obviously over time not just from a single "half charge" like that.
So since every time you connect it to USB to sync it begins the charging process, won't that wear down the battery and make it develop such a memory?
Is their anyway to connect to to the PC without having it charge?
I have always preferred to have any mobile device drain it's battery to nearly empty before recharging to try and minimize the memory effect.
Thanks
InfidelSerf said:
First post here-
I've had my wing about a week now and have a question concerning battery usage.
It has always been my understanding that batteries will develop a "memory" if you charge and recharge them under their full charge capacity.
i.e. if you use it down to 60% and then charge it to 100% it will remember that and not use the full original 100% charge. obviously over time not just from a single "half charge" like that.
So since every time you connect it to USB to sync it begins the charging process, won't that wear down the battery and make it develop such a memory?
Is their anyway to connect to to the PC without having it charge?
I have always preferred to have any mobile device drain it's battery to nearly empty before recharging to try and minimize the memory effect.
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Today's lithium ion batteries do not develop this like older rechargable batteries. You can plug your phone in at any time without worrying about losing battery capacity!
Thank chris30_2001, good to know.
oh and it's ALWAYS lupus
I listen to Streaming Radio with my Wing at work all day. I get approximately 4 hours of listening time before I have to swap out with another fully charged battery.
I use PBar to shut off the screen while listening.
I'm running the touch rom without the actual touch. I can't remember which one it is. I spend at least an hour a day gaming (text twist, random solitaires) on it. I usually hit up the web a few times a day for 10 minutes a shot. I use it as an ebook reader. I send txts constantly. I talk about half an hour a day. All this leaves me with about 30% - 50% of my battery by day's end. Now, if I turn on bluetooth all day it will end up around 18%. Wifi is such an evil power hog I never turn it on, EDGE is fast enough for me. I charge my every night under my pillow (it's my alarm too). Battery life has been the same since I got it about 6 months ago.
Edited to add: I also do some dynamic underclocking for things that don't need a huge amount of power, like my budget program, etc.
I've had my HTC Touch on CDMA/Bell Canada for about half a year now. I love the phone but the battery life just sucks. I can't get through a full day without having to plug in. Where I work and where I live the CDMA signal is weak. My phone is constantly flipping back and forth between X1 and EVDO and voice calls are not very reliable.
I know things like Push mail, GPS...and other data agressive applications will drain the battery, however even when I turn everything off except for the phone itself I can't get through a fully day.
I suspect my phone is constantly busy trying to maintain a connection to the cell network. Does anyone have any tips on how I could help get better battery life?
Leon.
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I've had my HTC Touch on CDMA/Bell Canada for about half a year now. I love the phone but the battery life just sucks. I can't get through a full day without having to plug in. Where I work and where I live the CDMA signal is weak. My phone is constantly flipping back and forth between X1 and EVDO and voice calls are not very reliable.
I know things like Push mail, GPS...and other data agressive applications will drain the battery, however even when I turn everything off except for the phone itself I can't get through a fully day.
I suspect my phone is constantly busy trying to maintain a connection to the cell network. Does anyone have any tips on how I could help get better battery life?
Leon.
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It is very hard to provide you with any help when we really don't know what you have installed and running on your phone. Some plugins can drain your battery while they are running - EG - WeatherPanel - Try not to let this program keep running if you have it installed - especially with animated weather icons. Reduce the brightness of your display screen if you can manage that. Make sure that your display is shutting off as well. Keeping the display on will surely drain your battery. Set it to shut off after so many seconds of inactivity. Take a look at your task manager to make sure that you don't have many programs running in the background - and set your task manager to actualy close programs when you tap on the x as it is default setting to just minimize your apps and not close them. If they are all running in the backgroung, you will surely see battery drain.
With a bare bones configuration my battery would last around 10 hours before I had to plug in. All I had running was basically my phone and some light web surfing.
I've since loaded up my phone with a apps/plug-ins and my battery last about 5 hours now sometimes less. I am running some apps which do things in the background:
-Weather Panel, no animated graphics (Auto update every 6 hours)
-HTC HUB (Auto update every 6 hours)
-Push Email (Zimbra mail, looks like Exchange)
-Pull Email (Gmail) every 30 minutes
Even if I can get all these applications to be much less power hungry, I'll get at most 10 hours. I'm hoping to get multiple days of battery life, not just hours.
While on holiday I turned off the phone, went into Flight mode for a week, but still used GPS on occassion. My batteries then lasted days!
Thanks for your suggestions about those apps.
I can almost go more than half a day, which is enough to get me from my house, to work (or wherever I go), and back home. I'm thinking I should get a spare charger for my office though.
But I have running:
FlexMail, with 2 IMAP accounts, and Live account
Palringo or Live Messenger (depends which ROM I'm using !)
Some Opera browsing
Occasional GPS
Some MP3's
And the obvious phone calls
Ohh, and when I get bored, some Kevtris!
I leave work at 4pm, and when I arive at work the following day at 7am, I'm usually at 20% battery life, and that's with it being plugged in via usb for at least 3-5 hours during the evening. Barebones flash, with SPB Mobile Shell 2.0, and that's about it. It's a bummer, having to stay close to a usb port or wall outlet.
I did notice, my normal power consumption is 150-250mAH, however when I plug in to usb, it jumps to 400-500mAH, sometimes higher. That is with activesync or without, doesn't seem to make a difference.
Well, I don't know about Zimbra, but I know the SEVEN push service absolutely *destroyed* my battery life. I just set my phone to check my Gmail every 5 min, and it's good enough for me, with much better battery life.
That said, your problem is your location. Your phone will burn a lot of juice if you work in a basement or dead zone trying to find towers. There's not really anything you can do about it, other than turn off the phone radio when you know you're going to be out of range, but of course, that defeats the purpose of having a cell phone.
Get a new job, get a 2nd battery, or plug it in at work. Smart phones don't have great battery life to begin with, and if you are getting a weak signal, you are just out of luck.
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Or, you can try one of those Sprint base stations. You may not be able to set one up at work, but you can at least do it at home. Should help some.
I got an extended battery (Seidio 2000 mAh) and my phone lasts for more than 24 hours now, probably 2 days if i let it go without a charge long enough.
Like right now I have had a bunch of phone calls, done a bunch of texting, played some kevtris and my phone has a lot of stuff installed on it. It's been off the charger since 9:30AM and its 4:40PM now and the battery is at 81%.
Before I got the extended battery my phone would probably be at less than 50% at this point in time. The extended battery does make the phone A BIT bulkier, but its really not that big of a difference to me.
Alright, I own a Sprint CDMA HTC Touch Diamond. The battery life is seemingly atrocious!! I have just been charging it like an idiot (i never let it drain to full depletion) by plugging it in everytime is gets low.
I have not updated anything (got the stock sprint rom and no apps that run in the background), and have changed all of the suggested windows mobile power settings to low (email to every hour/once a day - brightness i left on auto detect - no vibrated notices - turned off all unused data connections).
I woke up at 9am, talked on the phone til 10am, and played with a few things (10 mins pocket express and 10 mins with some stupid apps i was messing with) and the battery is half drained already after charging all night. It is 11:40am right now.
I read that a lot of people are having this problem but that the phone infact won't turn off for hours and hours after the battery shows the (!)-Battery Low notification.
Is there anything I can do to make the battery read correctly as I hate being without a phone, have only had it for a few days, and don't want to drop money right away for an extra wall charger and car charger. Any suggestions or know of any updates I could install to show me the actual battery life?? Any and all help would be great!! Thanks in advance!!
- Steve
I honestly want to know what you expect.
I woke up at 4AM this morning, and it's not 8PM, and my battery is on 61%. I've done e-mailing, made phone calls, received phone calls, texted, surfed the web a bit waiting for a buddy to meet me at the mall, and Shazamed a couple of songs that came on the radio in the car.
How long do you expect a battery that'll fit in the HD2's slim form to power its extremely demanding hardware?
All expect is a functional and practical device.
I bought this as a work phone. It isn't always practical to be carrying around a phone charger.
"Before we start the meeting, do you mind if I plug my phone into your wall socket?"
Having to plan around charging points on a long work day on the move defeats the point of a mobile phone.
I understand what you're saying about expecting too much, but perhaps phone companies should consider not making such poweful phones until there is a battery powerful enough to support them. It's all well and good having such great technology, but if you can't use it how you want/should what's the point? Just a thought.
Personally the poor battery life doesn't bother me too much, but then I'm not out and about all day.
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All expect is a functional and practical device.
I bought this as a work phone. It isn't always practical to be carrying around a phone charger.
"Before we start the meeting, do you mind if I plug my phone into your wall socket?"
Having to plan around charging points on a long work day on the move defeats the point of a mobile phone.
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With the latest radio and an efficient ROM, all that is unnecessary (even with the stock rom and latest radio I bet).
I usually charge it overnight, but forgot to do it last night.
I removed the charging cable yesterday at 8AM, made about 20-25 minutes worth of phone calls, 20 minutes surfing on internet + a few e-mails, around a dozen picture, 10 minutes GPS (iGO8) and messing around with the phone a bit from time to time.
It's now 10AM, so 26 hours later, and the battery is still at 75% (haven't put it on a charger at all, not even in the car while using the GPS).
I wouldn't really call that "having to plan around charging points".
I agree that during a busy work day, you could have more phone calls, but still, you should have plenty battery left (especially if you don't forget to charge it overnight like I did )
Just wanted to share with CHIP how I get around a busy work schedule with the phone.
The key thing is the USB sync/charge cable, when at my desk I sometimes plug the phone into the notebook dock via USB for juice, and it doesn't hurt that it's also syncing with the laptop.
On the move, I've got a USB socket adapter thingamajig for my car's cigarette lighter socket, so if the phone is low, it gets plugged in.
Furthermore if I get the chance to plug the laptop in like in a long meeting, the phone also gets plugged into the laptop via USB for more charging goodness.
It will probably kill the battery quicker this way, but it sure beats not being to use the phone at all, and besides, we did buy a phone that can have it's battery replaced easily right?
in my neck of the woods, you can get a third party USB sync/charge cable for about USD$9...
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I honestly want to know what you expect.
I woke up at 4AM this morning, and it's not 8PM, and my battery is on 61%. I've done e-mailing, made phone calls, received phone calls, texted, surfed the web a bit waiting for a buddy to meet me at the mall, and Shazamed a couple of songs that came on the radio in the car.
How long do you expect a battery that'll fit in the HD2's slim form to power its extremely demanding hardware?
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y well you are lucky i go out of home, after 10 mins of listening to music it's already on 95%. I'm eagerly awaiting the new battery.
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With the latest radio and an efficient ROM, all that is unnecessary (even with the stock rom and latest radio I bet).
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What would you class as an efficient ROM ?
I find the battery life on this phone abysmal .. To the point i switch off all wireless services except the one im using at the time to enable me to have any time on the phone at all .. Surfing the web on wifi with the other wireless services on i can practically watch the battery life decrease every few mins ..
Something is amiss .. I upgraded the radio to the 2.07.51.05 version but ended up going back to 2.06.50.04 as i found it to be better ..
Whats your profile for enabling wireless services, do you have 3G enabled all the time, Wifi, Bluetooth ?
Cheers
How much battery do you lose over night? On my phone it drops about 12-15% in 8 hours (radio off, flight mode). To me, it seems too much...
Spike15 said:
I honestly want to know what you expect.
I woke up at 4AM this morning, and it's not 8PM, and my battery is on 61%. I've done e-mailing, made phone calls, received phone calls, texted, surfed the web a bit waiting for a buddy to meet me at the mall, and Shazamed a couple of songs that came on the radio in the car.
How long do you expect a battery that'll fit in the HD2's slim form to power its extremely demanding hardware?
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there is a problem with battery life,there are lots of problems with this phone..currently my opera browser stopped working,the sms is still not fixed..
the fact that you have no problem with your device does not mean it's the same for everyone..
It's definitely ROM and Radio dependant. The ROM I'm using at the moment is incredible. Comebined with the latest 2.07 radio and my battery lasts for ages.
I was only getting about 10 hours with very light use and push email on when I was on 1.48. Now I'm on a 1.66 based ROM and the battery last about 300% as long.
I'm currently on about 26 hours since last charge and still got 38% battery. That's with push email (peak times 7am til 11pm), lots of surfing, about 20 mins talking and some texts. Over night I lose about 1-2% max.
I'm telling you, with the latest software, this is a different phone. Also it seems like it sorts out the SMS bug too. Upgrading makes this phone everything I wanted it to be when I got it 3 months ago.
Interesting ... I have been using the 1.66 series also and battery is poor.. i need to keep track of proper usage to really see whats going on given i use no push email either .. Im wondering if it could be due to the fact location is on and also the radio is looking for 3g when im in a gprs only location, could all be contributing factors .. gprs data always seems to be connected too ..
Life was simpler with the iPhone (less fun though)
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Interesting ... I have been using the 1.66 series also and battery is poor.. i need to keep track of proper usage to really see whats going on given i use no push email either .. Im wondering if it could be due to the fact location is on and also the radio is looking for 3g when im in a gprs only location, could all be contributing factors .. gprs data always seems to be connected too ..
Life was simpler with the iPhone (less fun though)
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On the ROM I'm using in the Wireless settings there is an option called 3G - Change to GSM Mode. This drops the connection down to GSM if there isn't a good 3G signal. Also there is a setting in BsBTweaks called PowerSaving that I have turned on. This combined with the fact that the 2.07 Radio gives me about 1 bar better signal everywhere seems to have made this phone perfect for me. Maybe you should start experimenting with some battery saving tweaks like this?
I woulld definitely turn off all the auto download stuff like weather, stocks, time sync, twitter etc (except push mail). I mean how important is it that the weather is up to date 24 hrs a day when you probably only look at it once or twice a day. If you need it you can just press the update now button and within seconds you have it updated anyway.
Mine did behave reasonably well untill I started throwing apps and mods at it as fast as I could to get it to the point where I was happy with it. Lights out last night for me was at 01:30 with 94% charge,bluetooth off,gprs connected and trawling for e's avery 15mins..at 06:30 the battery was down to 41% with no programs showing active on task manager and thats after a tidy up last night with MemMaid as well. Guess who's going to be flashing his first new rom later this week ..
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On the ROM I'm using in the Wireless settings there is an option called 3G - Change to GSM Mode. This drops the connection down to GSM if there isn't a good 3G signal. Also there is a setting in BsBTweaks called PowerSaving that I have turned on. This combined with the fact that the 2.07 Radio gives me about 1 bar better signal everywhere seems to have made this phone perfect for me. Maybe you should start experimenting with some battery saving tweaks like this?
I woulld definitely turn off all the auto download stuff like weather, stocks, time sync, twitter etc (except push mail). I mean how important is it that the weather is up to date 24 hrs a day when you probably only look at it once or twice a day. If you need it you can just press the update now button and within seconds you have it updated anyway.
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Yes, i have all auto download stuff off, weather just annoys me with all that moving clouds etc .. Twitter i refresh when i enter the app.
I have Change to GSM enabled. i am presuming this setting will continue to search for a 3g signal though .. Figured this used more power as the radio would be working harder no ?
I have power saving status enabled ..
The 2.07 radio for me i found really made the battery drain, notcibly so.. I moved back to 2.06 as recommended by the Miri page as i was using his rom at that time .. Not bothered to move back to 2.07 yet .. i may do in a day or so once i get a baseline to compare against.
The other night when i was on 2.07 i surfed the web for half an hour and listned to the engadget podcast for an hour, probably half of that with the screen off and i lost around 30-40% battery .. I blamed the 2.07 as i had better battery before i moved to that i thought..
I need to analyze this rom over the next day or so, i got the device 5 days ago and every day since i got it i have flashed one or more roms / radios so ive not really had a stable config to benchmark, what i do know is that i have the above settings enabled in all roms .. Ill be trying not to flash for the next couple of days to see whats what ..
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Mine did behave reasonably well untill I started throwing apps and mods at it as fast as I could to get it to the point where I was happy with it. Lights out last night for me was at 01:30 with 94% charge,bluetooth off,gprs connected and trawling for e's avery 15mins..at 06:30 the battery was down to 41% with no programs showing active on task manager and thats after a tidy up last night with MemMaid as well. Guess who's going to be flashing his first new rom later this week ..
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Why do you need it scanning for emails every 15 mins while you're asleep. Why not change it to manaully download them in off peak hours (1am-6:30am) that way they'll still be waiting for you when you first wake up but not wasting battery checking while you're asleep.
Cass67 said:
Yes, i have all auto download stuff off, weather just annoys me with all that moving clouds etc .. Twitter i refresh when i enter the app.
I have Change to GSM enabled. i am presuming this setting will continue to search for a 3g signal though .. Figured this used more power as the radio would be working harder no ?
I have power saving status enabled ..
The 2.07 radio for me i found really made the battery drain, notcibly so.. I moved back to 2.06 as recommended by the Miri page as i was using his rom at that time .. Not bothered to move back to 2.07 yet .. i may do in a day or so once i get a baseline to compare against.
The other night when i was on 2.07 i surfed the web for half an hour and listned to the engadget podcast for an hour, probably half of that with the screen off and i lost around 30-40% battery .. I blamed the 2.07 as i had better battery before i moved to that i thought..
I need to analyze this rom over the next day or so, i got the device 5 days ago and every day since i got it i have flashed one or more roms / radios so ive not really had a stable config to benchmark, what i do know is that i have the above settings enabled in all roms .. Ill be trying not to flash for the next couple of days to see whats what ..
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On one of the other battery posts someone said that you need to give the battery a couple of discharge/charge cycles down to 1% with a new ROM/Radio in order for it to accurately be able to predict its charge loss. Don't know how much truth is in this but it might be better to stick with one for a couple of days at least before changing so you can get an accurate comparison.
Ok, yeah ill give it a couple of days to see whats what before i really damn this beast and have to buy the fat extendo battery with kickstand
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What would you class as an efficient ROM ?
I find the battery life on this phone abysmal .. To the point i switch off all wireless services except the one im using at the time to enable me to have any time on the phone at all .. Surfing the web on wifi with the other wireless services on i can practically watch the battery life decrease every few mins ..
Something is amiss .. I upgraded the radio to the 2.07.51.05 version but ended up going back to 2.06.50.04 as i found it to be better ..
Whats your profile for enabling wireless services, do you have 3G enabled all the time, Wifi, Bluetooth ?
Cheers
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The rom I found the most efficient is the one I'm using right now (XannyTech Pandora 1.1, though I've read that 1.3 is even better), and my radio is 2.06.51.07.
I have 3G/HSDPA enabled all the time checking for e-mail every 30 minutes, and the other services every hour (except during the night, where it's set to manual).
Wifi and Bluetooth are disabled unless I need them, though (I think that leaving them enabled would make a big difference for my battery life).
I usually surf the web using HSDPA instead of Wifi (since it's pretty fast here), unless I have to download bigger files
I'm not sure how much battery it uses overnight since I usually sync it and leave it charging (only forgot a few times) but I'm pretty sure it was under 5% last night.
Changing the radio and ROM really did make a huge change for me.
The same situation when I was on 1.48 stock + stock radio, my phone would probably be around 20-30% battery instead of 75% at 10AM this morning.
Btw, as an update, I've made about 10 mins of phone calls, and surfed the web over 3G for 10 minutes since this morning, and the battery is now at 68% (3:30PM), so it's been off the charger for 31H30 now.
d4v0r said:
How much battery do you lose over night? On my phone it drops about 12-15% in 8 hours (radio off, flight mode). To me, it seems too much...
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I had the phone on in airplane mode, en route back from Brisbane (12 hour flight) and listened to music intermittently, and the battery wasn't drained that much. After another flight (2.75 hours) to Vancouver, the battery was still over 50%.
To be honest, I'm actually impressed with the battery life..
Mithrandir007 said:
The rom I found the most efficient is the one I'm using right now (XannyTech Pandora 1.1, though I've read that 1.3 is even better), and my radio is 2.06.51.07.
I have 3G/HSDPA enabled all the time checking for e-mail every 30 minutes, and the other services every hour (except during the night, where it's set to manual).
Wifi and Bluetooth are disabled unless I need them, though (I think that leaving them enabled would make a big difference for my battery life).
I usually surf the web using HSDPA instead of Wifi (since it's pretty fast here), unless I have to download bigger files
I'm not sure how much battery it uses overnight since I usually sync it and leave it charging (only forgot a few times) but I'm pretty sure it was under 5% last night.
Changing the radio and ROM really did make a huge change for me.
The same situation when I was on 1.48 stock + stock radio, my phone would probably be around 20-30% battery instead of 75% at 10AM this morning.
Btw, as an update, I've made about 10 mins of phone calls, and surfed the web over 3G for 10 minutes since this morning, and the battery is now at 68% (3:30PM), so it's been off the charger for 31H30 now.
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Thanks, at least this gives me some hope .. I usually would use 3g for my web surfing but on O2 uk carrier they have no 3g in my area, it will be like this until i get the HD2 unlocked and get on Vodafone, so for the moment im using wifi ..
Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do to test which one might be bad? Any app you know of that can monitor things and tell me if a rogue app is killing the battery or if the battery is bad?
I was running mik 1.1 and was using it pretty heavily with gaming and downloading stuff. The phone died after about 7 hours. I thought that maybe the rom or cwm or something else might be killing the battery. Something strange though is that, like I said, I ran the battery until the phone shut off. Then I left it off and put it in a wall wart charger for about 8 hours and the status light was still orange. My gf had the phone and told me once she left it plugged in overnight and in the morning it was only at like 50 something percent. I thought maybe the charger went bad so I gave her another one and she didn't say anything else about it. I'm starting to wonder if maybe the phone's battery has a weak or bad cell. I kinda doubt that there's something wrong with the charging circuitry of the phone but there could be, anything is possible. I will probably take it to the repair center and tell them about it and see what they say. I tried looking on htc's site for oem replacement batteries but couldn't find anything. I found lots of aftermarket but I didn't want to go that route.
I don't know if it would not be a good idea or not to try and use my original evo battery just flipped over. I suppose if that's the only thing I have to try and troubleshoot this problem then it will have to do.
Can anyone give me suggestions or has something similar happened to you?
Now let me see if I can find that evo battery..........
Spare parts, in the market if not on your rom by default, had a battery information tab that will indicate battery health as well as what kind of plug the phone detects when charging (usb, ac, or none)
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Like danaff37 said, spare parts can be useful. Also try CPU Spy, free from the market, which shows what % of the time your CPU spends at each frequency, but this actually more relevant for determining if your phone is properly sleeping..
For proper charging you can get an app like CurrentWidget or Battery Monitor Widget which tells your the current consumed during usage or current injected during charging, as well as the voltage in mV. Full charge should reach around 4200 mV, and when charging the current should be around ~800 mA for lower % battery left.
Thanks for your input. I found the evo battery and did the same thing as before. I ran it until the phone shut off and then put it one the (same) charger and went to bed. About seven hours later, it was still orange charging. Both times the phone was off. Now something that could be a possibility is the charger is weak or bad. When I put my evo on it, it charges seemingly fine. I should try using the battery until it shuts off again and use a different charger and see what happens. Six to eight hours charging, with the phone off, coming from a dead battery, on a Motorola charger that has a rated output of eight hundred milliamps at five volts. I have others at different output rates and a two amp charger intended for an ipad. Some might say that the charger is too much for the phone. The charging circuitry only pulls as much amperage from the charger as the phone was designed to. Now on the other hand if I put a smaller output charger on, say one hundred and fifty milliamps, it will take longer to charge the phone than usual. "They" say trickle charging is better. Whatever. I will post my results if I find any. Or, I just might trade the phone in for a nexus s or an evo 3d.
I was just about ready to throw in the towel and say the phone was defective, but then things started happening. I will fill you in on what I have done in the meantime. Okay so the flipped over evo battery kinda works but not completely. It will charge but not to 100% and green light. To test this, I took the evo battery out of the shift. It didn't seem to want to go more than 98 or 99%. I put the battery into the evo and after a few minutes the light went green. This was initially off. Then I booted the evo and let it go to sleep. After it booted the light went orange then green after a few minutes. Okay so the evo battery is capable of going to 100%. These charging tests were done with a different charger.
I forgot to tell you, I let the evo battery charge while I was at work and the phone was off. So the battery was charging roughly twenty hours and still no green light. I suspect that even though the positive and negative terminals aligned with the correct tabs on the shift, the center two contacts must be different internally than the shift battery. I speculate that those center tabs are for the battery and phone to communicate to each other during it's charging state. I am guessing that the battery tells the phone it is fully charged and to go trickle charge and perhaps the evo battery wasn't communicating to the phone or the phone didn't know when to say it is done charging. The battery never got hot either.
The shift was rooted, running mikshift 1.1 and the latest clockworkmod recovery. Here is where I suspect that there still might be charging bugs with that setup. I used the pcxx.zip file that when booting into the bootloader, would flash the phone back to stock everything. After trying this and assuming that the phone was back to stock, I kept going with my what the hell is going on with this phone battery charging test. A note about the flipped evo battery. Yes it will work in a pinch but it won't charge properly. Luck has it that the notches in the battery and phone allow it to work in a shift. Only thing is, the shift battery won't work in the evo. The tabs are on the wrong side and the phone's tabs won't allow the contacts on the battery to meet up with the phone's terminals.
Okay, where was I? Trying different chargers wouldn't make the shift green light full charge. I tried the same chargers on the evo with it's original battery in and it would green light after a few minutes on or off. There wasn't anything wrong with the chargers. Oh and another note, while using the battery monitor widget, I noticed that both phones wouldn't pull more than a little over three hundred milliamps of power from the charger to the battery. Interesting to know how much it really pulls from the charger.
Anywho, I tried something different for my process of elimination testing. I actually ruu flashed the shift back to factory and guess what happened..... The battery and phone were charging both on and off all the way to green full charge at 100%! I think I'm getting somewhere with this! All my luck, either it is a known bug somewhere in the forum in a place I haven't stumbled across or I'm the only one that this is happening to. It doesn't really matter I guess.
My conclusion, which isn't scientific by any stretch of the imagination, is that the phone isn't truely back to factory unless you ruu it. The pcxximg.zip doesn't put everything back to stock. I haven't narrowed it down to what is causing this behavior. I don't think it is root. It could be cwm recovery or the rom or both. I didn't try the stock rooted zip either. I suppose I could go further with this investigation but I am too lazy to now. I might root it again and just leave things stock rooted. I might activate this phone in the morning and run it all day tomorrow and see how it acts. I will have to charge it a few times during the day to keep the levels up when I really use the phone heavily. I've written enough for now. Does anyone have anything to ask or add to this topic?
Since the latest update to CWM phone-off charging finally works again but the light never turns green. It charges fully but with the phone off the LED never turns green. It's not just you.
EDIT: If this is not the actual question I apologize. The posts were far too long to actually read
^ Shift Faced
OK. I thought something might have been broken.
Forgive me, I am truly a newbie to Android after having a BB for 8 years. This battery thing is killing me. I am on my 2nd Evo Shift, the 1st one wouldn't last for more than 2 hours with barely any usage so they gave me a new one. This one barely lasts 5 hours. I am barely running anything. I took it into the store and they thought I was going to be running all these programs, but I kill everything. They told me the "battery trick" about turning off the phone and unplugging it and plugging it back in 10 times so I did that but I am not getting any more life out of the battery. My display is constantly using at least 70% of the battery it says even if I turn it down very low or if I set it to choose its setting. Do you have any advice for me? I am not running a task killer, I kill all the programs I am not using. I have no widgets running because I am afraid to use the battery, I only have 2 screens out of the 7 with things on them. I am being help hostage by my cool phone that I want to use but am scared to kill the battery! (sorry for the long post)
Ok if you use a lot apps just close them after (for stock 2.2) . Even on stock you can literally stream music and movies for about 4-6 hours. (sometimes a lot more) . The background info that runs doesn't use a lot of juice , but if you want you can go to your home screen any of them hit menu (but not with the app drawer open) select settings go to accounts and sync turn off background info and just turn it on manually when needed such as the android market . You can also turn off the auto sync and just manually choose to sync , like in the clock (and gmail etc.) it will say no weather after you click it , just hit menu you will see a little sync button option to sync and voila you have weather . So when you visit the market it will automatically ask you to turn it on (background info as will all apps that need this) . And the screen on any android is a battery killer . So when not using your phone simply tapp your power button to turn your screen off and lock (and to keep from pocket dialing lol) . But if all you do is text , emails , and web surfing (surfing drains more but no where near as much as streaming) you can literally do that all day , the screen will actually suck the most power . If manually turning off your apps is too much . Just turn your phone off (not just the screen) and on . If a new app didn't turn off after you start your phone back up you know that will be a problem later . So when not using your phone turn off your screen it will last soooo much longer . I only make a call or two and a couple of texts maybe a few minutes of internet with opera mini . My battery lasts over 24 hrs , but I barely use my phone . Hope that helps .
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BTW if you have a bunch of apps running in the background video games etc ... and you charge your phone all night and in the morning it is not charged . You should probably turn your apps off . Or simply power your phone off which shuts off most apps . Then turn it back on . The phone should not take all night to charge , it should only take an hour or 2 . 3 hours max .
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i suggest watchdog lite,it monitors cpu usage and alerts you when 1 uses more than your max threshold.if this helps,please click thanks.
When you changed ROMs, did you do it with a full charge? If not, your battery stats file is probably messed up.. Ive used Battery Calibrator free from the market in the past to fix that problem.. I believe a brand new battery on the Shift shows about 4200mV when fully charged or just slightly below that.. Run the app, when it gets close, calibrate (which essentially just deletes the battery stats file and creates a new one)