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Navigon Mobile Navigator 4

Hi all mates!
I'd like to open a thread to discuss about this piece of software!
I have to buy one among tomtom3, destinator 3 and Navigator 4 so I think it's good to open this thread to share any comments and infos and any other thoughts concerning theese sat-nav programs!
Cya!!!

Forget Destinator for a start. We have a review of the previous version of Navigon here and TomTom3 here.

I have myself check out different navigation systems and have concluded that Navigon Mobile Navigator 4 is the most sophisticated one. But I must concede, it is expensive, they had delays in bringing the software to market, they have already made an upgrade available (presumably there were issues with the new software), and they have not managed to put the demo on their website for about the last 3 months. In addition, I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
There is also a POI handler available (in English) at: http://www.navigating.de
Check out this German site for a review (in German): http://www.pocket.at/navigation/navivergleich.htm
But I still believe it is the most sophisticated navigation system available for PPC, I am just wondering whether something simpler would do for me. :roll:

Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
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I planned to buy the Fortuna clip-on gps bluetooth: so do u think with navigon it's not compatible?
Btw, i can purchase the navigon bundle with his bluetooth + Tmc receiver!
Any other thoughts?
Thx u all!

jag said:
Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
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Destinator has a great deal of issues and it's latest version is no match for any of your other options, Consider CoPilot, TomTom or Navigon as your top three choices. Others worth considering are Deluo Routis, also sold as Socket MyNavigator and Intellinav amongst others.

I have found that navigon doesn't support custom POIs! is that right?
Another thing: a little very pleased feature in destinator is the possibility to read the phone number of certain POI like restaurant, bar, ecc; so the question is: has any of the other competitors the ability to do this?

I believe that with the POI handler Navigon does support custom POIs. Check the link I indicated above, it is in English.

Ok, that's right for the POIs, but for what concern telephone number?
Does anyone knows something?

no one?

I am currently using the Navigon older software 1.5 which also has RDS-TMC together with my MDAII .The TMC function is really useful and works in Germany, Belgium , UK - all these countries I have personally tested and have been rerouted and saved several times. The POI included in Navigon also work well some are already allocated but you can download more also some from POI handler and you this service you have to pay a yearly fee. ( for speed camera etc)
The advantages of Navigon are that you get the whole of Europe and the TMC function and no other extra costs except upgrades. Up to now I am very happy especially now since I also have a official carkit for the MDA II. I laugh at all my friends with thier expensive navi systems in their cars. Navigon , Tom tom etc are really not expensive if you compare them with car built in systems
I looked at Tom Tom but found the maps more clearer ( for myself ) Tom Tom uses teleAlas while the Navigon uses Navitech . The older software Navigon did not show your speed but the new one Navigon 4 does. Tom Tom also does have TMC but this needs to be downloaded via GPRS and adds to the cost.
Today ( WooHoo !!! ) I have recieved my software & hardware upgrade to Navigon|4 and as I am travelling these weeks and I will install it in the next few weeks.
I only opted for the upgrade as I can now use the bluetooth GPS reciever when I go cycling or walking.
Funny, when I was making my choice it was between Alturion & Navigon. I chose Navigon as all the right hardware was ready for The MDA II. I have never regreted buying navi software.
:lol:

Thx rafiki, and remember: I'd like to read here ur thoughts about this navi software! Of course, take it easy, do it when u can! I'll appreciate it very much!
Any news about extracting\reading phone numbers and any other type of infos from the electronic maps? :?:

WooHoo !!!! :lol:
A really good piece of software! I installed the navigon 4 yesterday and used all day today. Boy am i happy.
I got:-
Bluetooth ( modular with TMC)
I can see my Speed, atlitude, got a compass , est time of arrival , duration, inclication of road,
3D or bird eye view
perfect sound with my MDA II carkit with mute ( on software)
Adjustable volume
I can type in destinations or touch on the map via touch screen
I van also use voice command for stored destinations
All in all I am very happy!!!!!!
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDAII ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ? :?:

Thx Rafiki!!!
I think i'm gonna buy this software!

@ Jag!
Forgot to mention I work for an Italian Company! :lol:
Navigon comes in standard in 7 languages.
Here is a hand book you can download from Navigon in 7 languages.
http://www.navigon.de/downloads/consumer_products/Short_Manual_7_languages.pdf
also if you visit the site there is a lot of info in English , including screen shots. You can also order via the site.
good luck
Rafiki

Rafiki wrote:
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDA II ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ?
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The XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020/imate all come with Windows Mobile 2003 - PPC2002 is not available for this platform.

@ BRosenow
Thanks mate! :lol:
Now I know which upgrade I need for my navi to make it Navigon 4.01
Regards
Rafiki

TY Rafiki!
Bye!!

What is the best.

Dear all
I am a noob XDA2 owner. I have tom tom installed and would like your opinions on the coolest software to add. Id like to watch DVDs and love playing games and usual pc stuuff.
Any sugestions welcome. 8)

pockettv and
and pocketMVP are the best movie viewers imho
about games then you are a bit too unspc i mean most people like playing games some pref chess some pref quake ....

Coolest App
On top of what has already been said...
After spending weeks on this forum and on Handango this is my hit parade:
DVD:
mMedia: to convert DVDs or any other videos in almost any format. (I haven't tryed yet as I am waiting to buy a large memory card, but from the specs seem the most complete programs while other limits you in term of input or output format)
Games:
Monopoly is gorgeous
Other interesting games are Chopper Alley, TombRider, when anyone finds a decent first person shooter please let me know
There is a C64 Emulator which should enable you to play old commodore 64 games (they where good) unfortunatly I didn't manage to get the app to work on my XDAII, but I haven't tried too hard... it should be possible
Usefull SW:
Ringtonez: to get personalized ringtones by caller
A profile manager: to change the phone settings according to your envirronment and much more... I am still trying to understand which one to choose between PocketZen and Phone Profiles... I have dedicated a post to it but with few responses... help anyone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10168&highlight=
MS Reader: English or foreign language to english dictionaries
HP Mobile Printing
iMove Messanger: Universal Messanger
PocketLingo: if u need a specialized dictionary
ConverterCE (usefull and free)
Must have utilities (they are not cool, but they would make a difference):
-BT Tools: when you face yourself with the limits of the units BT app.
-SpriteBackup: must have back up utility... your device would hardreset, no matter how carefull you are, and even if your contact might be sync a lot of other info and settings are not, so u want to back up and xBackUp is just too slow to be used)
-PocketNav: Close bottons function that really closes apps (free or cheap; does just that and does it well)
-ScaryBear (fix a PPC2003 bug that slows your XDA after every reset, free)
-Wakeup Tweak: fix another bug with PPC2003
Have fun!
Chris

cchris
well there is doom 1&2 and quake 1 and 2 wolfenstien3d and the second version forget the name spear of destiny or something
and then there is heretic (really got a kick out of that back in the day in MP where you could hex your opponent into a chicken) and hexen (heretic2)
then there are some Fps rpg's around
suppose since counterstrike is based on ½life which is based on quake2 engien it could be portet and i have played it on my laptop in 320_240
it could be possbile to port it and even play online using wifi or gprs
Bf1942 or unreal though i dont think we'll se ports of untill they release windows CE 5 with a directx mobile and mobile mmx

Stronger said:
Dear all
I am a noob XDA2 owner. I have tom tom installed and would like your opinions on the coolest software to add. Id like to watch DVDs and love playing games and usual pc stuuff.
Any sugestions welcome. 8)
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are u loaded with money like i m?if yes,just buy any software n try it out man..wats the worry..

Question:Mapping Wireless with htc diamond?

Hi .First i would like to say im a really new at PPC and Windows Mobile.
Here is my Question: Is there any software/programs to my HTC diamond that can Mapping Wireless on a map or with my Tomtom gps software ?.
Sorry for bad english but not my main language.
PS. I have tryed Ministumbler but it says no WiFi adapter in the program.

No, 3-dimensional WiFi mapping is impossible without at least three receivers.
Unless that's not what you mean.

jens12 said:
Hi .First i would like to say im a really new at PPC and Windows Mobile.
Here is my Question: Is there any software/programs to my HTC diamond that can Mapping Wireless on a map or with my Tomtom gps software ?.
Sorry for bad english but not my main language.
PS. I have tryed Ministumbler but it says no WiFi adapter in the program.
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Try wififofum it can save locations of the access points via your builtin gps in an xml file, which you can convert to googlemaps format, ...

+1 to wififofum. I located over 100 hotspots in one hour with normal bike and small city. Easy and fast.
I used gpsbabel to convert poi's tomtom.

better get Airomap, more Info than wififofum and exports results to about anything you like...
and if you like to share and maybe even earn some small $s check navizon (which is a great idea!)

yes, I have Airomap, it's free and works well with google earth

Hey,
i'm currently thinking about changing my Acer n311 for a Diamond Touch.
Now just one question:
does airomap definitly work with the Diamond (including GPS)?
Thanks a lot

yes - it does

Thank you very much! So I just have to wait for the first reviews of the Touch HD, and than decide, which one to take

Simmiliar programm like quick gps?

On my old htc touch diamond was a lil prog called quick gps. it downloaded a little file in which the satelites positions were listed (i guess), so the fix was in an awesome speed.
tomtom had aboute less than a min a satfix.
is there a simmilar program on the android OS?

wrong forum?

[Q] What ROM I need?

I'm very new with the Athena (or Ameo) I will get this week. I had a Touch Diamond (nice, but so small and slow for me) and a Toch Pro 2 (cool gadget so far). Now I have bought an Ameo I have wanted so long and I hope this little nice device will live a long time.
Well, because I'm new the the Ameo I have some questions and hope you experts can help me.
The Touch Diamond had a VGA screen too but with much lower size and a slower CPU. So, programs running on the Diamond are also possible to use on the Ameo?
Can I use the latest SPB Mobile Shell on the Ameo without issues? Haven't found some infos about.
I can use the 16GB MicroSDHC from my Touch Pro 2 with a simple MiniSD-Adapter on the Ameo, right?
And the most important questions: Whats the ROM I need? Okay, without any informations this is the most stupid question I can tell, I know. I'm looking for a light ROM (German would be nice, but English is good too) based on WM 6.1 or 6.5, but should be stable with all function working like the base ROM. I also want to use the G-Sensor (not only on internet browser), GPS, WLAN and VGA/TV-out. Bluetooth is necessary for using headset. And I have seen a special driver for the ATI chip. Do I need a ROM with this builtin driver or can I install it later?
Best regards
from Purzelkater

Purzelkater said:
#1. The Touch Diamond had a VGA screen too but with much lower size and a slower CPU. So, programs running on the Diamond are also possible to use on the Ameo?
#2. Can I use the latest SPB Mobile Shell on the Ameo without issues? Haven't found some infos about.
#3. I can use the 16GB MicroSDHC from my Touch Pro 2 with a simple MiniSD-Adapter on the Ameo, right?
#4. And the most important questions: Whats the ROM I need? Okay, without any informations this is the most stupid question I can tell, I know. I'm looking for a light ROM (German would be nice, but English is good too) based on WM 6.1 or 6.5, but should be stable with all function working like the base ROM. I also want to use the G-Sensor (not only on internet browser), GPS, WLAN and VGA/TV-out. Bluetooth is necessary for using headset. And I have seen a special driver for the ATI chip. Do I need a ROM with this builtin driver or can I install it later?
Best regards
from Purzelkater
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im no experts but heres what i know
#1. most likely yes
#2. yes.. no prob at all
#3. yes you can...!!! (hail obama for theese words)
#4. you can search in this site ... i recomend 6.1 based rom for faster response...but if you love beauty.. go for 6.5
you can search here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=380

Thanks for your replay, baramuli!
Now I have tried some ROMs... original T-Mobile MW6 (brrrr ), HTC WM6, full AP 4.0, xXaCsXx V4.31 Clean and V4.31 HH WM6.1 (all German), irus Ultra Vanilla WM6.1 and AP4.0 Vanilla, WM6.5 MULTILANG R6.5 RC1 MiChY and lennie's AGB V3.00.0. Some I have flashed more then once to check special tweaks or settings.
WM6.1 build are nice and fast, had around 120MB storage and 80MB free mem. Well, AP4 was startlingly slow.
Michys R6.5 was best looking on paper, but on the Ameo I had much trouble with it. I like the 6.5 design, but R6.5 was unuseable for me. Had have freezes, non working keyboards, broken start menu and some more.
But AGB V3 was amazing. Stable, fast (for a WM6.5.x build) and I haven't found bad bugs so far. The only point I'm not happy with it are the big menus and fonts. Well, its nice for small displays but oversized on the Ameo. I hope I can make some changes here.
Yes, the Ameo is not the fastest device, but pretty usable and my Touch Pro 2 with WM6.5 has dropouts yet. The Ameo can play the same movies I had watched on the TP2 and games (Palm Heroes, NfS Underground, Spore) are a pleasure on 5" (yes, I'm 34 but I like to play games, some times ).
Mobile Shell was nice on the Ameo but I was not happy with it.
My 8GB Class 4 Kingston microSDHC is running without problems on a MiniSD adaptor on the Ameo but I will change to 16GB Sandisk from my TP2.
ATM I try to optimize AGB V3 for myself (change some programs on the ROM, make some registry tweaks).