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Well, it's more than just questions.
I have the HD2 and I really enjoy it. Think it's a great piece of hardware. WM6.5 gets the job done for the most part, but I can understand some of the concerns with the OS. It's good to hear that you guys are already working on WM7 and the port to this phone!
Truth is, I put my coin in google's corner, so I'm hoping that Android finds its way into the HD2 via T Mobile.
I'm a bit tech savy, been involved with computer animation and can build computers as well. I thought I ask about the learning curve when it comes to development on PDA's such as mine. With the drop of Android, I flirted with the idea of learning code.
Is Android Linux based?
You guys hear anything about Android getting a port to this phone? I've done the google search and can only find the sprint version of HD2 with Android installed. That does nothing for TMobile customers.
I read up a bit on XDA and they appear legit. My concern is code being used for identity theft. Anyone have bad experiences with XDA and the software that is released here for share? Does the software under go some sort of QA before it's provided for download?
I have no problem with donations, trust is what earns my donations...fair enough, right?
Ultimately, I really like this phone and look forward to further enhancing it...I hear XDA is the place to be!
Thanks guys/gals.
FAQ's and sticky threads are your friend as is google.
Try reading abit, get a feel for the site.. Then ask..
Yes Winmo7 is being ported to the touch HD, though at the moment it's sluggish due to lack of graphical acceleration (and not really something i"m excited by since it doesn't have copy and paste and no multitasking. IMHO it's really more like an iphone/toy meant for none-techy people).
I don't expect an official update/ROM for the HD2 with android to ever be released by htc/tmobile. However, I would be surprised if one wasn't ported by xda from other devices (like nexus/evo 4g).
Yes, android is unix based. (develepment done in java (for upper stuff) and C (for lower stuff)).
Anything you download and install from xda you do so at your own risk. However, I would argue that the risk is minimal (almost none existent) as long as you follow directions and read posts. The only thing that can brick your phone is a failed radio/SPL update/change. Anything else can be cured by a hard reset.
(and what kable said)
As unfriendly as my reply may seem, for a "tech savvy" guy you asked several questions which would have been abundantly answered if you properly used the search tools of the forum, or if you simply browsed through the most active threads
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As unfriendly as my reply may seem, for a "tech savvy" guy you asked several questions which would have been abundantly answered if you properly used the search tools of the forum, or if you simply browsed through the most active threads
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Thick skin...you grouches don't faze me
I've been through the site a bit, what can I say, life outside of the computer caught up and I got a little impatient!
I'm still reading through the forum. Have yet to find an answer to this question.
If I install Android on my HD2 (US), something goes wrong...will I be able to do a hard reset, or reinstall WM6.5?
I really think Android would benefit more out of this hardware. It seems as if everything Unix based always requires less resources and gets the job done!
I also would like to know how I can uninstall these game demos that are eating up space? Will this be a registry edit?
I feel as if Android would FLY on this device. WM6.5 is getting the job done, but it's to late for Microsoft with me. I've used Linux for some time and I just think it's better. Huge supporter of Linux!
Devils1stBorn said:
Thick skin...you grouches don't faze me
I've been through the site a bit, what can I say, life outside of the computer caught up and I got a little impatient!
I'm still reading through the forum. Have yet to find an answer to this question.
If I install Android on my HD2 (US), something goes wrong...will I be able to do a hard reset, or reinstall WM6.5?
I really think Android would benefit more out of this hardware. It seems as if everything Unix based always requires less resources and gets the job done!
I also would like to know how I can uninstall these game demos that are eating up space? Will this be a registry edit?
I feel as if Android would FLY on this device. WM6.5 is getting the job done, but it's to late for Microsoft with me. I've used Linux for some time and I just think it's better. Huge supporter of Linux!
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oh, no grouches intended (and the "I have a life" excuse is old )
There's no way to install Android on the HD2, currently, that's why you couldn't find on these forums how to uninstall it from the hd2
Game demos were not included in my stock rom, if you're using a customized rom from a carrier, then either you find and delete the relevant files, if that's even possible, or you flash a clean custom rom from the rom dev forums which includes onyl the necessary software... but then again, I know all this info because I found it on the forums
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oh, no grouches intended (and the "I have a life" excuse is old )
There's no way to install Android on the HD2, currently, that's why you couldn't find on these forums how to uninstall it from the hd2
Game demos were not included in my stock rom, if you're using a customized rom from a carrier, then either you find and delete the relevant files, if that's even possible, or you flash a clean custom rom from the rom dev forums which includes onyl the necessary software... but then again, I know all this info because I found it on the forums
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Look at you, browsing through forums and stuff. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.
Thanks for the info. I do have a custom ROM from TMOUS. Has games like guitar hero, prince of persia...more bloated ware. I estimate about 30 mbps of used space.
Devils1stBorn said:
Look at you, browsing through forums and stuff. When I grow up, I wanna be just like you.
Thanks for the info. I do have a custom ROM from TMOUS. Has games like guitar hero, prince of persia...more bloated ware. I estimate about 30 mbps of used space.
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If they allow you to uninstall the games this is how you would go about it:
Go to the settings tab in Sense -> menu(lower right corner) -> all settings -> system -> remove programs.
Now the other option would be to flash your current rom to something faster and less bloated. T-Mobile US Rom Development Forum
I definitely recommend you read the Stickies before going about flashing your phone. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Would suck if you brick your new HD2 just because you didn't! This is what these forums are for despite what some members might claim.
As for your other questions yes Android is Unix based and is probably going to be available for the HD2 sometime in the future(don't ask when). There's already a dual boot app so when Android becomes available switching between the two operating systems should be a breeze.
Welcome to the forums and enjoy your new phone!
Hi,
A bit irrrelevant to reply here, but I did not any other place. Have been following this forum for quite sometime. Been around with windows mobile app development for sometime. But what really interest me is when people from this forum tweaks Rom image or port to other harware. Here things look quite easy. Is it really easy? I saw one single person tweaking a ROM image and porting to different hardware?
Hope I have not offended anyone.
- Herojit
Toss3 said:
If they allow you to uninstall the games this is how you would go about it:
Go to the settings tab in Sense -> menu(lower right corner) -> all settings -> system -> remove programs.
Now the other option would be to flash your current rom to something faster and less bloated.
I definitely recommend you read the Stickies before going about flashing your phone. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask! Would suck if you brick your new HD2 just because you didn't! This is what these forums are for despite what some members might claim.
As for your other questions yes Android is Unix based and is probably going to be available for the HD2 sometime in the future(don't ask when). There's already a dual boot app so when Android becomes available switching between the two operating systems should be a breeze.
Welcome to the forums and enjoy your new phone!
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Thanks. And no, it only allows me to uninstall apps I've installed after the initial setup. I've been through system files and the sorts and I can only find icons and other "blah" that's not the actual install directory. I show all the hidden files and still, can't find it.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to Android. Don't need the dual boot. Just a solid port with solid drivers.
Sorry everyone for the irrelevant post again.
I was hoping that someone will reply saying - "porting ROM is not a big deal, this is how you do it"
- Herojit
herojits said:
Sorry everyone for the irrelevant post again.
I was hoping that someone will reply saying - "porting ROM is not a big deal, this is how you do it"
- Herojit
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Say what?
What's with your post?
OP. I'll port Android on HD2 for you for $50. You gotta send me your phone tho.
I am a tek savy guy too. I fix microwaves!
FloatHeavy said:
OP. I'll port Android on HD2 for you for $50. You gotta send me your phone tho.
I am a tek savy guy too. I fix microwaves!
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Epic fail.
one thing that has been alittle pain is how the albums are viewed. i created an album for videos, yet when i view I can't have a name of the file visable, just a thumbnail. that doesn't work well at all. works fine with pictures cuz what you see is what you. videos start with a black screen; becomes a guessing game. am i missing something?
after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again
when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems
i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google
hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks
thanks
Are you kidding me? After all the problems I had w/ winmo, I will never go back.
salah_heart said:
after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again
when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems
i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google
hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks
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BLASPHEMY!!!
Most problems you find here is related to cooked kernel/roms there isnt based on official magic releases.
Anyway if you cared to make a bit research before starting topics with questions there is answered a lot of other places, you might get a bit more help. The questions asked by you has answers in the wiki and the sticky topics, you even asked question where you already wrote the answer. It's important to read carefully and understand the things you're about to do.
If people can see you got a problem which is either hard or doesn't have a solution for it anywhere yet, people are more likely and happy to help.
But as far as i understand is that right now you need to get fastboot to work. So first of all get the SDK and make the driver working for it so you can connect your device with adb. You'll find information about this in the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02
Good luck!
salah_heart said:
after those hundreds of proplem with android we need then to go to the windows again
when i used android from the first time i have many proplems and no one can answer it not even me this great forum full of android proplems
i think we just spent our money with this uneasy system from google
hundreds of android mobiles will be on the hell after few weeks
thanks
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Windows=limited potential
Android= OpenSource= Unlimited potential
What you're lacking to understand that the devs here are dealing with an OS that has only existed for 3 years. While the exact same windows coding has been used for close to 20..
furthermore.. you can not compare the problems with WinMo to the Android problems. WinMo problems where because of ****ty devs. Android problems are from stupid users who can't follow clear directions. I've done over 100 successful Android flashes, and probably 1000 some tweaks to my phone over the past 2 years. Never once have I had an issue. How do you ask? Cause I do my research, I know my coding, I follow directions. Android modding isn't for people who don't know code and who are e-tards. If you want your safety net go back to WinMo. Now go play with an HD2 and tell me how it feels to have a phone with a 1ghz processor only do 2.4mflops because the OS is horrible and then feel stupid cause you can a lame phone with WinBlows on it.
Okay... we're getting too many threads here with the same problems.
If you think you've bricked your phone or can't figure out what you've done or are stuck, you need to search the forum. There is a LOT of information already here that can help you.
Honestly, if you feel like you could easily get to this point you should probably do more research before doing any modding of your phone.
If you can't find anything, then go to the #Samsung-Continuum channel on IRC ( http://webchat.freenode.net/ ) And see if anyone is there to help you. If not, wait.
If you cannot wait, then search again using different terminology.
Then, if you haven't gotten a fix, you should post your problem within the thread for whatever it was you were trying to do when you messed up your phone.
This will keep our forums usable and the important information where everyone can see it.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18698679
[DEV] Continuum DataBase
Also files to help get u back running
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u should sticky this thread to lol.
Yeh... unfortunately I'm not our forum moderator... not sure why they just stick us on random devices instead of the ones we use...
I'll send a note to our mod, see if he'll do it.
Weudel said:
Yeh... unfortunately I'm not our forum moderator... not sure why they just stick us on random devices instead of the ones we use...
I'll send a note to our mod, see if he'll do it.
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Done.
Somehow I ended up with my device, and a bunch of other random forums... like this one .
I am happy they gave me my device tho .
Directions are not good....
I started downloading the files, but honestly guys - I've repartitioned harddrives on a desktop before, reformatted them from DOS into a Windows OS, I've assisted in networking (using windows home based server) a small office (4 people). Your directions to do this are so vauge, I'm not even gonna try in fear I screw it up. I appreciate everything I read on your forum, but not even a google search of all this is helpful, cuz all that's found, is you guys, and your directions are far from step by step. YOu wouldn't be having people post with so many issues if you laid it out for those who are not all that great with technology. Being quite in depth and knowledgeable myself, I know that if it were laid out a little less "techy", even those unfamiliar with these processes would be able to get done without so many issues. Sorry, I don't mean any disrespect, you guys are awesome, helpful, and plain extremely smart, and for those who arise to understanding all the tech lingo and can get themselves partially through this process without a step by step, more power to them. Just thought it would be helpful since I see so many "I screwed up my phone posts".
thank you.
[oldrant] omitted on behalf of users pride [/oldrant]
[newrant]why would you use your first post on whatever that was?
question? statement?
none of the above
if u have read the "i screwed up my phone posts" or been in Irc, you would find out that most were failed flashes found on other sites,
our directions do not "brick" phones, when did our post start pointing guns at the reader?
though I'm wondering why not after your post have fun with 2.1 [/newrant]
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Rants
That said (I agree)...join us in the IRC and we'll get you up and running.
TazRun said:
I started downloading the files, but honestly guys - I've repartitioned harddrives on a desktop before, reformatted them from DOS into a Windows OS, I've assisted in networking (using windows home based server) a small office (4 people). Your directions to do this are so vauge, I'm not even gonna try in fear I screw it up. I appreciate everything I read on your forum, but not even a google search of all this is helpful, cuz all that's found, is you guys, and your directions are far from step by step. YOu wouldn't be having people post with so many issues if you laid it out for those who are not all that great with technology. Being quite in depth and knowledgeable myself, I know that if it were laid out a little less "techy", even those unfamiliar with these processes would be able to get done without so many issues. Sorry, I don't mean any disrespect, you guys are awesome, helpful, and plain extremely smart, and for those who arise to understanding all the tech lingo and can get themselves partially through this process without a step by step, more power to them. Just thought it would be helpful since I see so many "I screwed up my phone posts".
thank you.
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This is a DEVELOPERS forum. It's that simple. If you're not up to speed on modifying your device it is not our job to get you there. Read and re-read until you understand and if that doesn't happen then DON'T TRY IT.
That said there are a lot of people around here who would be more than happy to try to help you. Just use the PM function or the IRC chat, please. ;D
it annoys me when people post sounding threads all frantic saying i think i bricked witch is a term thrown around far to much these days because the fact of the matter is, is its almost impossible brick a samsung device
There are several old threads about dual-booting, and using this particular phone. I want Windows 6.5 or less and/or a desktop version of windows (because of certain apps)... and Android 4.0+ Is it possible? Would this phone be too slow... Is there a better phone that could do it? Is there no phone that could do it?
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There are several old threads about dual-booting, and using this particular phone. I want Windows 6.5 or less and/or a desktop version of windows (because of certain apps)... and Android 4.0+ Is it possible? Would this phone be too slow... Is there a better phone that could do it? Is there no phone that could do it?
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I'm not sure about desktop Windows but as for Android just place the ROM folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET and it should work just fine. No other phone can do it as well as the HD2 (if they can do it at all).
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I'm not sure about desktop Windows but as for Android just place the ROM folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET and it should work just fine. No other phone can do it as well as the HD2 (if they can do it at all).
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Thankx for replying... I've posted on a few forums and haven't received anything till now. Anyway: So what you are saying is buy this HD2 phone preloaded with the Win 6.5 OS... Then put Android 4.0+ on the SDCard and boot into that. I would really want to run Android most of the time. I would connect the Android OS to my AT&T and make calls with it... and only use Win 6.5 rarely.
Questions:
1) Are there examples of people actually doing this? recently?... or just back in the days of 2.2 which as I mentioned in the 1st thread, i found many google links/forum threads on.
2) Can I still get to the Android market and all normal apps, and not have other DRM issues?
3) Since the OS is actually on the SDCard, and I hit the reset, would it automatically go to Windows, when I reset?
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Thankx for replying... I've posted on a few forums and haven't received anything till now. Anyway: So what you are saying is buy this HD2 phone preloaded with the Win 6.5 OS... Then put Android 4.0+ on the SDCard and boot into that. I would really want to run Android most of the time. I would connect the Android OS to my AT&T and make calls with it... and only use Win 6.5 rarely.
Questions:
1) Are there examples of people actually doing this? recently?... or just back in the days of 2.2 which as I mentioned in the 1st thread, i found many google links/forum threads on.
2) Can I still get to the Android market and all normal apps, and not have other DRM issues?
3) Since the OS is actually on the SDCard, and I hit the reset, would it automatically go to Windows, when I reset?
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Come on, you don't even have to search to get your answer, just browse to the SD Android development forum. You're just being lazy now.
Nigeldg said:
I'm not sure about desktop Windows but as for Android just place the ROM folder on the root of your SD card then run CLRCAD and HARET and it should work just fine. No other phone can do it as well as the HD2 (if they can do it at all).
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Come on, you don't even have to search to get your answer, just browse to the SD Android development forum. You're just being lazy now.
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From Star Trek: Sarek said: "It is difficult to answer, when one does not understand the question." Or in my case, it was difficult to go looking for the answer, when not understanding how supposedly easy it was to find. Us IT people are in the business of making others feel stupid often, but we don't have to flaunt it.
Yes this is a good link, that now you have so eloquently pointed out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
robertkjr3d said:
From Star Trek: Sarek said: "It is difficult to answer, when one does not understand the question." Or in my case, it was difficult to go looking for the answer, when not understanding how supposedly easy it was to find. Us IT people are in the business of making others feel stupid often, but we don't have to flaunt it.
Yes this is a good link, that now you have so eloquently pointed out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
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There's a difference between not knowing/understanding and simply not trying. This was quite obviously the latter. I'm not trying to make you feel stupid at all, in fact you're probably the opposite since you're going to buy an HD2 . I'm just saying that you weren't exactly trying to find the answer and just wanted to be spoon fed, and as someone who's new to this you're probably going to have a lot of questions along the way and it's better to learn how to find the answers yourself than to just get given them because it's faster and better for everyone.
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There's a difference between not knowing/understanding and simply not trying. This was quite obviously the latter. I'm not trying to make you feel stupid at all, in fact you're probably the opposite since you're going to buy an HD2 . I'm just saying that you weren't exactly trying to find the answer and just wanted to be spoon fed, and as someone who's new to this you're probably going to have a lot of questions along the way and it's better to learn how to find the answers yourself than to just get given them because it's faster and better for everyone.
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If you wish to keep noobs as noobs, and turn them away, then continue to use sarcasm. But if you wish to turn noobs into contributors, and receive more thanks, than you treat them with respect. --- I've been looking for weeks for the right place. I wish to upgrade my phone soon, but not in that big of a hurry.
You wish me to defend myself? OK. Your XDA site is huge with a vast array of forum links. I was not aware I would need to look under HTC development'. I didn't know it had anything to do with Development.... Sorry (why am I apologizing to you?). To me software development is when someone programs an application that runs on a Win-mobile and/or Android device better known as an 'app'. Or what I do... I am a software developer for the asp.net environment. When searching for dual-booting as I said in the 1st thread I get tons of threads from years ago about Android 2.2. The same happens when searching from google. Is it really that easy to find as you say? Unless like you, you know exactly where to look. 'It is easy to find the answers, when you know right where to look', 'you understood the question'... but I did not know where even to look!
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If you wish to keep noobs as noobs, and turn them away, then continue to use sarcasm. But if you wish to turn noobs into contributors, and receive more thanks, than you treat them with respect. --- I've been looking for weeks for the right place. I wish to upgrade my phone soon, but not in that big of a hurry.
You wish me to defend myself? OK. Your XDA site is huge with a vast array of forum links. I was not aware I would need to look under HTC development'. I didn't know it had anything to do with Development.... Sorry (why am I apologizing to you?). To me software development is when someone programs an application that runs on a Win-mobile and/or Android device better known as an 'app'. Or what I do... I am a software developer for the asp.net environment. When searching for dual-booting as I said in the 1st thread I get tons of threads from years ago about Android 2.2. The same happens when searching from google. Is it really that easy to find as you say? Unless like you, you know exactly where to look. 'It is easy to find the answers, when you know right where to look', 'you understood the question'... but I did not know where even to look!
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There was no sarcasm in my post at all, but now I'm going to be quite blunt. You're acting like an idiot. I understand why you may think software development is to do with apps but when there are two separate forums for NAND and SD then it should be obvious that it's not. I was 14 and I managed to figure out how to install SD Android without any help whatsoever, I refuse to believe that a software programmer couldn't figure it out. You wished to dual boot WinMo and Android on your SD card on an HTC HD2:
1. Find XDA
2. Find the HD2 forum
3. Oh look, it has a section called 'Android'. The answer's probably in there somewhere
4. I want to boot Android on my SD card. Conveniently, there's a forum dedicated to SD Android. I wonder if there are modern ROMs there
5. Whoa, threads with ICS and JB ROMs as well as guides on how to install them. I guess I've found my solution.
Yes, it's just as easy to find as I say if not easier. Steps 1, 2, 3 and 4 could have been solved with Google.
I couldn't care less about thanks, they're not a very good reflection of... well, anything really. I've seen people with 0 thanks post amazingly useful guides (in fact I think the guide I first followed to flash NAND Android was someone's first post) and people with thousands of thanks ask 'best ROM' questions. Whilst it would be great to turn more people into contributors it'll be impossible for you to become one if you don't put any effort in yourself.
Because this thread went off the rails I am going to close it, but here's the quick rundown:
if you want to dual-boot WM6.5 and Android, you can do so using the haret method mentioned. Yes it is fully featured (market etc.) and yes when you restart you boot back into WM6.5, but you can boot into Android really fast after that if you want.
You can also dual-boot WP7 with Android, put Android on NAND or other options.
Searching really is the key, I know the HD2 forums can be a bit daunting and some things are going to be a bit hard to find but generally speaking if it has anything to do with Android (like dual booting from WM6.5) you will find it stickied in the Android forum.
Check stuff out here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=743
Hi guys. About a year and a half ago, this community did something amazing. I had an engineering version of the ativ S, and this community put together the money to buy me a new one, while i sent the one in my possession to a developer here to XDA. From that day, we never heard back. Do we have any news/breakthrough or any kind of report on the work heathcliff is doing?
I know Heathcliff74 has managed to fully root his phones (both Ativ and Lumia, I think), but I think he's still working on a way to install the hack on non-engineering phones / without using JTAG. I haven't asked for a progress report recently; we don't usually jostle each other that way when working on something.
GoodDayToDie,
The new Windows Insider app might be the key for non-JTAG hacking I've successfully injected some registry keys already, and am working on setting the interop caps to third party (maybe even ALL of them? Who knows...).
fonix232 said:
GoodDayToDie,
The new Windows Insider app might be the key for non-JTAG hacking I've successfully injected some registry keys already, and am working on setting the interop caps to third party (maybe even ALL of them? Who knows...).
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haha I did the same thing . Could you please let me know Silverlight apps Install Directory ?
I think my Internal memory is so full when i try to open C: access my PC will no longer detect my phone *Most of the times* but it can for example open C:\Windows so if it's please let me know where is the app install directory I want to try same trick we used on SD Supported Phones in our phones .
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Hi guys. About a year and a half ago, this community did something amazing. I had an engineering version of the ativ S, and this community put together the money to buy me a new one, while i sent the one in my possession to a developer here to XDA. From that day, we never heard back. Do we have any news/breakthrough or any kind of report on the work heathcliff is doing?
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There is work being done behind the scenes all the time. Usually nothing is released uncomplete though.
I have been working very hard. And I have made progress. In fact, I've been working for almost two years on this. I cannot tell any details right now. I can only tell that I am working very hard on a release right now. Please don't ask for ETA's. You will know when it is ready.
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
Heathcliff74 said:
I have been working very hard. And I have made progress. In fact, I've been working for almost two years on this. I cannot tell any details right now. I can only tell that I am working very hard on a release right now. Please don't ask for ETA's. You will know when it is ready.
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
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I am not asking for ETA; but i dont understand the secrecy. Would not find it more helpful to share your findings as you make them so that you might use the mighty insight and peer-review of this community? also, at least say" hey i'm working on this thing which i think it's cool" would had been sufficed. Also soon all your finding are going to be meaningless, since w10 is going to be out there and a lot of your bug/entry point might be closed at that point; and the device does not update to a newer version, so it will mean 0 usefulness out of what we set to do 2 years ago.
sireangelus said:
I am not asking for ETA; but i dont understand the secrecy. Would not find it more helpful to share your findings as you make them so that you might use the mighty insight and peer-review of this community? also, at least say" hey i'm working on this thing which i think it's cool" would had been sufficed. Also soon all your finding are going to be meaningless, since w10 is going to be out there and a lot of your bug/entry point might be closed at that point; and the device does not update to a newer version, so it will mean 0 usefulness out of what we set to do 2 years ago.
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The problem is that MS would know instantly what is being done and how to patch stuff. Years of hacking could become useless if something gets patched just because something was written here. About WP10, we'll see and hope for the best (for us on this forum)
sireangelus said:
I am not asking for ETA; but i dont understand the secrecy. Would not find it more helpful to share your findings as you make them so that you might use the mighty insight and peer-review of this community? also, at least say" hey i'm working on this thing which i think it's cool" would had been sufficed. Also soon all your finding are going to be meaningless, since w10 is going to be out there and a lot of your bug/entry point might be closed at that point; and the device does not update to a newer version, so it will mean 0 usefulness out of what we set to do 2 years ago.
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First of all, I'm not working alone. There are a bunch of people I exchange ideas with. But that is a bit more private than this forum. To make a fully working hack, we need a complete chain of hacks to get there. And if these hacks are discussed, the vulnerabilities would be fixed, before we can complete the chain and that would make the research meaningless.
In the WP7 era, I created a lot of hacks. At that time I was very active on XDA and twitter. Because I also wanted to give proper support on those hacks. Currently I have no release ready for WP8 (or WP10). So, why should I write about partial, possible hacks here? It would only give people the impression that I am here to collect "Thanks" and getting attention or ego-boost or something. And people would be asking when something is ready, which is impossible to predict. I have literally dozens of possible hacks that turned out to be dead-ends. That would only have resulted in disappointment and disbelieve. I have done a lot of research now. And it paid off. I'm working on an implementation now. But it is quite complex, so it will take a bit of time. Have patience.
Don't worry about Windows 10 for Phones. My work will still be valuable.
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
@sireangelus, please try to understand the reason for the secrecy. All that matters at this point is that work is in progress and every hack in progress doesn't need to be public knowledge due to the fact that it would be a big blow if they were patched. Heathcliff74 is right on this one.
I patiently await for the return of the winmo6.X wp7.8 hspl custom rom flashing hacking days
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Don't worry about Windows 10 for Phones. My work will still be valuable.
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Sounds very intriguing So even if you'll have working hack for WP8/WP10, the good idea to keep it in secret until WP10 handsets will hit the market.