That's an announce or something I suppose that it will be cool T-Mobile Shadow having a WM6.1 Professional OS? So, i will start a development when i get my Shadow
But there is a big delay in shipping it to me So, just wait
Why??? Without a touch screen, I don't see the benefits.
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Why??? Without a touch screen, I don't see the benefits.
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manila 2d as main home screen.
ill take one of these roms too.
btw, juno has a VGA-display onboard do you know that?
LCD part number is 60H00106-00M
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btw, juno has a VGA-display onboard do you know that?
LCD part number is 60H00106-00M
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Erofich,
I'm awaiting my replacement screen for my T-Mobile Shadow. I discovered that the screens that I've found so far are all sub-par and produced poor resolution graphics.
And what adds to the confusion is that most reference articles or reviews to the T-Mobile Shadow either do not indicate the resolution of the screen or state that it's QVGA.
Can you confirm that it is truly VGA? If that is the case, it explains why I've not been successful in finding a suitable replacement screen for my Shadow.
So far, I've returned 2 LCD screens to the sellers who claimed that their screens are compatible with my Shadow.
They also indicate that their screen is compatible with the Dopod C750, which is the Asian variant of the Shadow but with lower ROM/RAM configurations & keypad.
Konker
hello Erofich
i'm a shadow user from china.
in my opinion,shadow was made by VGA screen too.
because the high screen performances.
in fact,i have to try to run a program in PPC named "realVGA" which would enforced the VGA screen recover to 480X640 from 240X320.
but i was tried serval times, finally get failure
i guess that there must be a hardlocker in our shadow.so we can't opening VGA by realVGA easily
lookingforward your good news.
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we can't opening VGA by realVGA easily
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haha, no wonder activating the VGA-mode requires display driver editing and core patching
btw. check an Asus P750 thread about QVGA->VGA
So what's happening exactly?
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So what's happening exactly?
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The Shadow's LCD Screen is VGA (Resolution can be up to 480x640).
However, windows mobile 6 standard restricts this and forces the shadow to only be in Q(Quarter)VGA, which is 240x320.
The OP is trying to edit/patch some of the sys drivers in windows mobile to unrestrict it.
To the OP: Good Luck!
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The Shadow's LCD Screen is VGA (Resolution can be up to 480x640).
However, windows mobile 6 standard restricts this and forces the shadow to only be in Q(Quarter)VGA, which is 240x320.
The OP is trying to edit/patch some of the sys drivers in windows mobile to unrestrict it.
To the OP: Good Luck!
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That isnt a restriction - the problem in a lack of vga-resources for Standard os.
There will be a Professional os...
Any new developments?
Efrorich stated in his other thread that he does not have enough time to complete this project. He also, stated that since there is no documentation online regarding the Shadow's display, it will be quite challening.
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I'm thinking of replacing my cingular 8525 with a 7501, but I'm worried about a few things. Can someone that has one help me out?
I'm concerned that lots of apps designed for other devices won't run. Especially ones that are setup for the rectangular qvga screen. Is that an issue?
I run lots of apps and just want to be sure that they will work. I also install a lot of games to pass idle time when i travel. Anyone had any issue with games?
Is there any use for the front camera with cingular/AT&T?
How good is the built in GPS? I'm used to using a bluetooth gps with my 8525 and Tom Tom 5. That has a sirfstar 3 chipset and works really well.
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I'm concerned that lots of apps designed for other devices won't run. Especially ones that are setup for the rectangular qvga screen. Is that an issue?
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Most current WM5/6 apps support the Advantage's display. There may be some apps that haven't been updated (in years) for WM5/6 that might not be compatible, but everything I have works on my X7501 now.
I run lots of apps and just want to be sure that they will work. I also install a lot of games to pass idle time when i travel. Anyone had any issue with games?
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I've only had an issue with one game - Absolutist's Bubble Shooter. But that's been fixed with the latest v1.19 version.
Is there any use for the front camera with cingular/AT&T?
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Not right now, and not sure if there'll ever be.
How good is the built in GPS? I'm used to using a bluetooth gps with my 8525 and Tom Tom 5. That has a sirfstar 3 chipset and works really well.
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The GPS is good, but can take a few minutes to get a lock after a soft-reset.
The 7501 does not have the front camera. Only the back 3 mp camera. The 7500 is the model with the front camera as well, but as noted in various places, there is apparently no VOIP video calling in the US to make use of it anyway.
I've just spent two days loading tons of software on my new 7501, both old and new, and have had no problems with even some of my ancient stuff. It'll probably depend on what specifically you've got, however.
On the App side, most common apps are updated to WM5/6 and look good on the 640x480 (480x640) screen.
Games is another story. All the games I have on my device work great but probably 75% of the games aren't made for VGA and look grainy. Just make sure it is VGA Native "Full Screen".
As sad as it is there are more QVGA devices out there then VGA. Thankfully the apps are in VGA and look beautifully bright and vibrant.
FWIW -- I had a TyTN and then a Cingular 8525 when I purchased my Advantage x7500. I purchased it out of curiosity, never expecting I'd end up using such a large device (compared to the Hermes). Fell in love with it and just sold both my TyTN and my Cing 8525 -- the Advantage is my baby now!
I've had no probs at all with any of the apps I used on my Hermes devices. As others have pointed out, nearly all WM5/WM6 software is now updated to handle either QVGA or VGA.... although, to be completely accurate, the Advantage screen is not true VGA but interpolated VGA so the sizes of icons, fonts and some displays tend to be large and need to be adjusted to a size that suits the user. That's why some games probably don't display well with this device, although all the games I use are OK.
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I've only had an issue with one game - Absolutist's Bubble Shooter. But that's been fixed with the latest v1.19 version.
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I was also thinking of purchasing a 750x hence reading this thread. However, a quick question off-topic (not meant to hijack the thread):
Where did you get the Bubble Shooter V1.19 (I presume it's Bubble Shooter Mobile for PocketPC?). I have a registered copy but it's V1 and the absolutist site only has V1 also as I periodically check (copyright message only goes to 2004 ).
Grateful for a lead on this one - noticed a small performance degrade since my Glofiish X500 and would love to upgrade to the latest version.
Regards,
Gary.
I have my Hermes as a backup (in case I bricked x7500)since I do need a device for e-mail. However, I must say with the amount of software I have on the X7500 and the performance, it is night and day compare to the Hermes. I could not do half of the stuff I am doing now because I was running out of memory and storage on the Hermes. Multitasking is a breeze....
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Where did you get the Bubble Shooter V1.19 (I presume it's Bubble Shooter Mobile for PocketPC?). I have a registered copy but it's V1 and the absolutist site only has V1 also as I periodically check (copyright message only goes to 2004 ).
Grateful for a lead on this one - noticed a small performance degrade since my Glofiish X500 and would love to upgrade to the latest version.
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Here:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=15804
Usually you can get this stuff at marine or automotive supply stores.
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Here:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=15804
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Thanks very much indeed Rambler358
Don't know why they don't put these things on their own site though....
Still, I'm now updated (and I didn't even need to re-key my registration details,
Gary.
Buyer beware I just received an email from a good friend of mine stating he had the opportunity to test the xperia and he states it is slower than the tytnII. This shall be interesting.
the x1's and it's rom is not released yet how it will perform in q4 when it does one can only guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Qe_ohf0Re4
in this clip it seem to run ok
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Buyer beware I just received an email from a good friend of mine stating he had the opportunity to test the xperia and he states it is slower than the tytnII. This shall be interesting.
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Well i wouldnt be surprised by your friends claim seeing as the unit isnt even in final production. One of my friends has played with a pre-production unit and said the same thing but also said that he is pretty damn sure that when the final retail unit is out...it will be perfectly fine.
many new PDA lack of video and 2d acceleration, if Sony taking seriously they should make open /sdk driver,
Can anybody say Samsung Omnia
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Well i wouldnt be surprised by your friends claim seeing as the unit isnt even in final production. One of my friends has played with a pre-production unit and said the same thing but also said that he is pretty damn sure that when the final retail unit is out...it will be perfectly fine.
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I finally just received confirmation that the device he messed around with was the pre-production unit as well. Sorry for posting anything misleading I often jump ahead of myself when I get excited.
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I finally just received confirmation that the device he messed around with was the pre-production unit as well. Sorry for posting anything misleading I often jump ahead of myself when I get excited.
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no worries ... we all do ...
samsung ...
Alternate Names: Samsung i900
Manufacturer: Samsung Inc.
Predecessor: Samsung i830
Operating System: Windows Mobile Professional 6.1
Screen Resolution: 240-by-400-Pixels WQGA Screen
Dimensions : 112 by 56.9 by 12.5
Processor Marwell 624 Mhz
Camera: 5 MP with geotaging, auto focus, image stabilizer, face detection etc etc...
GPS Included
User Interface TouchViz UI
Data HSDPA 7.2
with these specs it is definitely nothing to sneeze at ... especially 5mp camera but for me a hardware keyboard is a must ...
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Can anybody say Samsung Omnia
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I was waiting for the X1, but now, the omnia is looking very, very nice.. Would we have a forum on the Omnia?
www.gsmelite.com
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I was waiting for the X1, but now, the omnia is looking very, very nice.. Would we have a forum on the Omnia?
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X1 Is going to be a Iphone Killer. Period
Omnia will be featured on my site, coming soon
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Its nothing misleading, its a fact, i have 2 of the units and the playback is more than slow, its slower than the the tytn II i can tell..maybe when the rom are out..
kepp you posted
bR
What application and what kind of media files did you use for playback?
If you also own a TyTN II, how is the 3G reception quality in comparison? Is X1 better, equal or worse?
Omnia is nothing special really, just yet another (W)QVGA device which is poor for web browsing and remote desktop use compared to (W)VGA devices. The screen is most important feature of a phone, because that's what you spend all your time looking at, and all your apps run in it!
The X1 is rendering everything very smoothly and fast. I've yet to see any lag on Tom Tom, spb Shell etc. And sl9 is right, it's the screen that counts, it's razor sharp, you wont be disappointed.
what about the extra resolution compared to standard vga on touch pro?
is the top bar bigger or something cause all the apps are a certain resolution its strange to me how they fit on the x1s screen
Most apps I've tried so far has somehow managed to run without any flaws on the WVGA-screen. It isn't stretched or anything.
The only thing I would add is that you can't use QVGA apps/skins very well. And when in Lanscape mode is where you'll notice that it doesn't quite fit right.
Take spb Shell for example, in landscape there is this empty area that appears between the main info and the 4 buttons. It's well done because it's not stretching out, just moved over. It doesn't look bad.
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The only thing I would add is that you can't use QVGA apps/skins very well. And when in Lanscape mode is where you'll notice that it doesn't quite fit right.
Take spb Shell for example, in landscape there is this empty area that appears between the main info and the 4 buttons. It's well done because it's not stretching out, just moved over. It doesn't look bad.
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Have you witnessed video lag?
Nope, nothing so far, but I haven't really installed that much stuff on it.
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Nope, nothing so far, but I haven't really installed that much stuff on it.
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Just try to watch a video
I am trying to decide which phone to buy: Touch Pro , Touch HD, or others. I like the bigger screen on this one but I read somewhere that it is only 16bit color (65k colors). Is that true or was the review mistaken? It seems strange sicne that wouldn't be enough for good quality pictures and video.
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I am trying to decide which phone to buy: Touch Pro , Touch HD, or others. I like the bigger screen on this one but I read somewhere that it is only 16bit color (65k colors). Is that true or was the review mistaken? It seems strange sicne that wouldn't be enough for good quality pictures and video.
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More than enough for any human, 65k like any other good ppc.
I think I saw in the specs that it's an 18-bit screen.
I also read that WM only supports up to 16-bit colour.
16-bit isn't enough for all purposes, especially photos with smooth gradients such as blue skies. Of course 18-bit would still give some banding.
OK, I did some mroe reading and the screens are 18 bit (both Touch pro and Touch hd) but the software is set for 16 bit because its easier on the processor. The 65k colors will be enough. I had thought my iPAQ was more but its the same. I jsut wanted to make sure I could run my AnywhereMap software on the Touch HD.
I heard that the Touch HD can't do 3G on US networks. Is that true and, if so, is there a hack to get around it?
"I heard that the Touch HD can't do 3G on US networks. Is that true and, if so, is there a hack to get around it?"
no htc device ever supported a hack to change the hardware supported frequencies so
doubt blackstone will be different
about the colour nr
then i'd say on such a small screen
16bit should be enough very large screens
one can see the diff with large colour changes on surfaces
but small pda screens one would have to be close
to touching ones eye with the screen to see and then
be being blinded by the backlight would make it impossible anyway
Looks like it CAN do US 3G afterall.
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/12/19/htc-touch-hd-is-compatible-with-us-3g-frequencies-surprise.html
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Looks like it CAN do US 3G afterall.
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/12/19/htc-touch-hd-is-compatible-with-us-3g-frequencies-surprise.html
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Nope. It can't.
It's also pointed out in the fourth reader comment at that same URL. The author just missed a very crucial "or" in the specs. I would assume the service manual states what the hardware could be configured to do. It seems that the current hardware is set up for only the first half of that "or".
I'm using the Touch HD on AT&T in the US. No 3G.
There was no thread associated to the Wiki page: HTC BlackStone Overview, now there is one .
Since it's important to have PROs 'n CONs, I added a "Downsides" section, with a few links to solve theses downsides.
In the specs, I'm not 100% sure for BlackStone's GPU
nice adds
i saw this:
Massive 3.8-inch wide, WVGA (480 X 800 pixel), 262K-color (limited to 65K-color by ?WiMo),
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is it possible to unlock the color-limitation? any addons to windows mobile or sth like that? imo it would be great to have 262k colors, since there's a large difference!
is it possible to unlock the color-limitation?
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According to that official article - Having More Colors Is A Good Thing, Isn't It? - using 262K colors instead of 65K means, more memory needed to store the data necessary to display a full screen (ie bigger framebuffer), more processing needed to fill-up that bigger memory (ie faster GPU), and more energy needed to do that processing (ie more battery). On a mobile device we are limited in memory, limited in processing power, and limited in battery life.
So if we want to use all the color that the screen can render, and assuming we have enough VRAM, then the trade-off is a slowdown of the user experience, and a reduced battery life. Now I don't know how much better can the Blackstone do compared to other WiMo devices, but I know it as a bigger screen, and that actually doesn't help in that matter.
This official article as been written in September 2005, so yea it's kinda old, but well windows mobile is getting old too...
So now we have to look into How to improve graphics performance on Blackstone or replace WiMo with Android
No D-Pad, No hardware keyboard
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Is this really a downside? If you are going to buy a HD you probably know this, don't you?
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Is this really a downside? If you are going to buy a HD you probably know this, don't you?
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imo it isn't a downside at all.
I bought the touch hd, coz i don't wanted to have a keyboard, therefor the big display and qwertz-keyboard on it r made for. And i guess most ppl think so too...
Having to use ur finger nail or finger tips alot to touch the right thing. That would be a downside. Lack of usa 3g bands would be another.
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Having to use ur finger nail or finger tips alot to touch the right thing. That would be a downside. Lack of usa 3g bands would be another.
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I added theses thanks.
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No D-Pad, No hardware keyboard
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Is this really a downside? If you are going to buy a HD you probably know this, don't you?
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It's not really a downside for me, but it seems it is one for quite some people. And since it's the Overview page, I thought that it would be useful to write it somewhere for the sake of mobile phone comparison.
Just a stupid hair-brained theory but did anyone notice HTC decided to use a HVGA screen after MS said that WM7 would be on WVGA & HVGA.
Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
Just becuase they could have used VGA, it has a bigger screen than the Diamond & that's VGA.
Sorry for this thread again in another forum
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Just a stupid hair-brained theory but did anyone notice HTC decided to use a HVGA screen after MS said that WM7 would be on WVGA & HVGA.
Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
Just becuase they could have used VGA, it has a bigger screen than the Diamond & that's VGA.
Sorry for this thread again in another forum
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Just seemed strange because as far as I know there hasn't been any HVGA HTC phones
Tbh, I've never even seen one including other brands lol, I'm sure there will be though.
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Sure, HTC have made HVGA devices.
The Dream (G1), Magic, Hero, and Legend all have HVGA screens.
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Sure, HTC have made HVGA devices.
The Dream (G1), Magic, Hero, and Legend all have HVGA screens.
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I meant on Windows Mobile
The hardware in the photon isn't a snapdragon and MS has explicitly said that WP7 is currently only possible on snapdragons (driver concerns). So no, I don't think it will be possible to put WP7 on it.
I agree it's an interesting choice, but until we know if WP7 can run on devices under 1Ghz, we won't know if that's why they did it.
Otherwise though, why downgrade from VGA? I suppose so they could share panels with the Android devices which are mostly HVGA.
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Screen resolution has no impact on capacitive sensing resolution; the sensing resolution of capacitive screens is far coarser than 320x480.
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swanga said:
HVGA is perfect for 3 inch capacitive screens.
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I agree and I hope the 3 party applications will work well. Let's see.