Latest, greatest Manilla2D? - Mogul, XV6800 General

OK, I loaded no2chem nueROM3 so that I can finally have enough memory to run larger items. I want to try Manilla2D again; however, after doing a lot of searching I seem to find lots of versions, etc.
So my question is: Where can I find the latest, newest version of Manilla 2D?
Chimp (Tom)

Buuuuummmmmpppp....

probably here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398173

Here is the rapidshare link to it http://rapidshare.com/files/149899392/manila.zip.html

Its in big letters in the hacking/development forum. First post has all the links to the packages and fixes in the second or third post.
I finally hard reset to get rid of M2D, I like it but every time I would flash it, randomly one tab would reset TF. I used the same files on my SD card, set it up again and it would randomly switch what tab shut TF down.
I was using updates 14 and 16 the last few times I set it up. Let us know what you think of a fresh install of update 18.

Ok, I'll try update 18. I assume that, once I get that 18 update file, I just unzip it, and install the Manilla2d cab, correct? And what is the 'patch' file about?
Chimp (Tom)

Unzip it and thereshould be an instructions.txt file. Read it to see the order of installation, as just installing the M2D cab will make nothing work
There were several patches, from making the weather display custom cities to making the album art show in audio manager. Just unzip and read the instructions.
It has been a while since I read that thread so I may be a little out of the loop. Best to read some of the newer entries dated around 9-30, when the update came out.
Good luck

FWIW, I used the version that is in buildos with nueROM, and it rocks! I then used the M2D customizer found in the hackanddev forum to turn off some of the tabs (internet, mms, and a few others i would never use). In high memory mode, even after a full day's use, I still idle with about 18mb ram. Not to bad! Even in low mem mode, still have around 16-17 ram, but it does fade to around 12-13 after some useage.
Gudy

Ok, I tried it but I was not impressed. No, not with the content (it looked really cool) but with it working.
First of all there wasn't any instructions anywhere - just .cab files. So I installed what I assumed I needed to install. Ran Ok after resetting; however, none of the grid items worked. By that I mean that I couldn't add (or use) anything on the contacts or programs menu - Although the app was active, licking (touching) would do nothing. Even trying to click the internet icon would do nothing.
Finally I gave up on that one, uninstalled it, then installed the one I found here (the xda version). Now that one worked, and I could set up contacts and programs. However, the internet would never work, and it was mighty flakey to use. There was some other major problem with that version, although now I can't remember what it was.
Anyway, I went ahead and uninstalled that one also. So at this time I guess it is just not ready for prime time. Anyone have any other ideas to get it running right (if I am even running the correct one), or a better choice? I have tried the new Wisbar Desktop Advance, but it has a major memory leak in it. PointUI was OK but just not what I was looking for (had problems also).
Chimp (Tom)

So you went HERE and downloaded a zip file from one of the updates, and it did not come with instructions? That would make all the difference in anything working. I will post the last instruction set I have, it may not be for 18 but it is the most recent I have. And remember, this is an example from an older update!

first of all im a total noob to this(1 day's worth of experience)...so take that as it is...
HOWEVER...just messing around today with 18 i ended up getting everything working. I DL'd the zip, and installed EVERYTHING in the logical order that made sense in my head. (main before patches, etc.) It looks to me that all those files are the actual working pieces of Manilla(correct me if im wrong)...
A few things that are bothering me...Anyone have this working on landscape? It cuts off 1/4 of the screen on the right hand side and just says "sprint" in a black box????

it is well known that there is no native landscape support. I find it hard to believe the newest version did not come with an instruction set. I may have to attempt 18 tomorrow just to see. I apologize as I am not with my laptop to help out here.
And yes, the .cab's are the backbone for manilla.

kdj67f,
Yep, that is where I went and I got the Rel 18 download... All it had was a folder in it with the CABs - I didn't see anything in there that had instructions.
I'll check out the ones you downloaded though. Thanks!
Chimp (Tom)

I think there should be an instruction set in a folder called "necessary files".
Like I said, I haven't downloaded 18 yet, so I might be wrong.

14 works best for me but it comes in the diamond black/green colors which i'm not too fond of so I reverted back to the blue. It also doesn't include the N2A weather patch in order to add custom cities so I had to install that. Kind of a PIA but EVERYTHING works perfectly.
I had tried 15 and I think 16 on Nuerom but kept getting validation or permission errors when trying to install the actuall Manilla exe file at the end. So I went back to 14 which seemed to work fine.
Does 18 come with the weather patch included, and what color theme does it have? Is it the blue? Might have to try that one out.

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Pocket IE does not like to stay open in the background

I have been running 4.00.11 for quite sometime now the 2 main problems I have with this version is
1) If I'm using PIE & task switch or go to today or any other applications, when I try to come back to PIE it's been closed. I then have to re-open PIE & it loads my default page not where I was. It seems very tempermental in this version closing down whenever it is in the background, but not all the time. Very strange. Since I am using data each web page load this seems like a error that would benefit the service provider. :roll: Odd since I never had this problem in earlier versions (keep in mind all these versions are on the same build) Hmmmm?
2) If I reg hack to put my cookies, history, & temp internet files on SD & I get disconnected from the network it will, from that point forward start using main memory again. If I delete these files from main memory it then starts using SD card again which tells me the reg hack was never actually changed back to what it was before my edit. How strange is that? For some reason it just starts using RAM even though the registry is set to tell it to use SD. Go figure? Again not ever occurring in previous versions.
Has anyone else experienced this? Just curious.
I still think Ozone version was still the most stable minus the Alarms issue which still plagues many of the non-phone edition 2003 devices.
It would be nice to see a ROM version based on Ozone minus the alarms issue & the 2 battery icons w/the new version of WinModem coming from O2 included in the new O2-XDA2. I think this would be an ideal ROM. Just a blind item suggestion... :wink: and of course whatever other little programs can be fit 8)
Try freeing up more ram.
I find if I multitask too many the os will start closing them especially PIE and EzWap when you have
web pages open.
Oh yah cache for PIE dont work too well either it always reload from the net when I go back to previous pages.This is true for the deaktop IE so I dont know what the cache is suppose to do.
For EzWap it does reload from cache but maybe because I am usually surfing Wap pages.
Oh sorry I did not notice your saying that you are alright with earlier versions.
All I can say is its a mystery
Maybe we should start a poll to see how many successful wm2k3 upgraders.

[new release] RunEveryday - Updated to v1.1

The missing Task Scheduler known from Windows XP!
RunEveryday 1.1 is done! It has:
1) a GUI, easily manage your scheduled tasks
2) Improved notification re-scheduler (old one proved to be kind of buggy)
3) Optionally force device to wakeup (as some programs need this to operate properly)
4) Under the hood, much improved code, easier bug fixing & updates in the future
no more need to use another program to setup the parameters etc. etc, just startup the app without any parameters, and you will be presented with a config dialog. in addition, you should remove any old entries within the notification database before using this new one (they are incompatible).
Everything should wotk MUCH better with this one. but still a few known issues:
1) When changing the system date, and you skip over a day, RunEveryday will get out of sync and stops working propperly. Work around: Start RunEveryday, and without changing anything, press the "Apply" button. this will correct all time/date stamps in the notification database.
2) For now, there can't be any spaces within the filename. Spaces within the directory name are oke though. THis is because I needed to seperate the Full path file name with any command line options, otherwise CreateProcess wouldn't work propperly. (Will be fixed in next version)
3) Keyboard doesn't popup when trying to enter text in the Command line. Workaround: select other program which has keyboard support first, then open RunEveryday, so you can openup the SIP yourself. This will be fixed in next version.
Compatibility: WM2003, WM5, WM6, QVGA, VGA and Square (240x240). in Other words: all recent devices
That's it! if there's any additional problems, I'd like to hear about them.
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Older version 1.0 usage:
A command driven app that will maintain itself within the notification database which will execute its params as a program.
for example, run:
\Program Files\RunEveryday.exe \Windows\prog.exe anyparams
this will basically execute \Windows\prog.exe anyparams
but it will register to start the same app with same params again in 24 hours, when it runs next time, it will delete the entry, and schedule again in another 24 hours, and so forth.
With an application like TaskMan you can easily see the notification entry this prog makes, and change it's time-schedule. (in other words, manage this app)
Also, creating a new entry with TaskMan, is really simple, make a CNT_TIME event, point it to RunEveryday.exe, and the application to run as it's params, and it's all set!
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My personal usage:
I have a task running every day at 23:00 -> turn radio off (with Vijay's app)
and a task in the morning 09:30 -> turn radio back on
But ofcorse you can use it for many other things! be creative!
Update to v1.1: Some people reported that they couldn't run the app because of some missing libraries. This probabbly goes for most of you WM2003 users: You need a static linked version, which I now have included below. Also, if you happen to get a message like "Cannot find ‘RunEveryday’ (or one of its components)", please try using the static linked version.
nnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiccccccccceeeee.. very niiiicccceee. Nicest thing that happened after the sad sad removal of ROMs... I'm soooo *touched..
UPDATE: Btw, an idea, for your next upgrade.. that is to add a day-of-the-week scheduling feature that is able to schedule events on days as well. Example, I may want to switch off my phone at 23:00 everyday. However, if I may went on partying late at night on Friday and Saturday. Hence, my job of "switch radio off at 23:00" can be programmed to be used on Sun-Thur only. And I can then add another job that "switch radio off at 02:00", to be performed on Sat and Sun only, just to make sure my phone won't switch off when I'm out partying on Friday and Sat night.
Thanks ;-)
And ohw, I meant TaskMgr, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280104
Edit: Works really great with mortscript's. Lots of possibilities.
hanmin said:
UPDATE: Btw, an idea, for your next upgrade.. that is to add a day-of-the-week scheduling feature that is able to schedule events on days as well. Example, I may want to switch off my phone at 23:00 everyday. However, if I may went on partying late at night on Friday and Saturday. Hence, my job of "switch radio off at 23:00" can be programmed to be used on Sun-Thur only. And I can then add another job that "switch radio off at 02:00", to be performed on Sat and Sun only, just to make sure my phone won't switch off when I'm out partying on Friday and Sat night.
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I was actualy thinking about that, but that's making things more complicated. Right now, it's fairly simple. no config dialogs requiered etc etc, as you can have multiple apps at different times, which you might want to run at different days of the week, config wise it gets more complicated, much more coding. Maybe later, if I really need it, I'll make something like it, otherwise, this will have to do (sorry). I'm simply sharing some code that I wrote since I needed it myself ;-)
Edit: oke oke, maybe I'll make a "RunEveryWorkDay" variant (still no config required) Not much code writing, will post it here later on, as soon as I have some time on my hands to make a few adjustments.
Okey, I had a little time (kind of quick, haha)
Rather then having a different EXE handling workday events, I made on which is more dynamic.
Example 1, Run only on work days (monday through friday)
\Program Files\RunEveryday.exe OXXXXXO \Windows\prog.exe anyparams
So the string "OXXXXXO \Windows\prog.exe anyparams" becomes the complete param for RunEveryday.exe
As you can see, the first block of the params has become the days for which you want it to be active, X's x's 1's are for active, O's o's 0's for days to be disabled. Days are represented in following order: Sun, Mon, Tue, Wen, Thu, Fri, Sat.
You can still simply omit those days, and it'll work as previously (ALL days):
\Program Files\RunEveryday.exe \Windows\prog.exe anyparams
Everything is still untested (in this latest release) so it might not work propperly. So if you encounter a problem -> tell me and I'll fix it.
I'm working on a much improved version. It will have:
1) a GUI, easily manage your scheduled tasks
2) Improved notification re-scheduler (old one proved to be kind of buggy)
3) Optionally force device to wakeup (as some programs need this to operate properly)
4) Under the hood, much improved code, easier bug fixing & updates in the future
Expect it to be released in the next couple of days (will post it here)
Nice app. Im going to give it a try now
Is Taskman the only app that can set the time?? Can Memmaid be used?
Everyone who has downloaded and tried the initial release, please download the new one, as it contains critical bug fixes.
freeyayo50 said:
Is Taskman the only app that can set the time?? Can Memmaid be used?
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See the first message in this thread, any other programs like Taskman or memmaid are no longer needed, RunEveryday is now a self-contained program with it's own user interface.
Thanks, this looks very useful, I also wanted an app to turn the radio on/off at scheduled times, Just need to find the VJ apps you use.
nigelw said:
Thanks, this looks very useful, I also wanted an app to turn the radio on/off at scheduled times, Just need to find the VJ apps you use.
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here:
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJVolubilis
Thanks, I've got the files and installed them, but so far I've been unable to get it to work.
I suppose this is more of a problem with the VJ files, but I can't seem to get the radiooff to work. I have moved the binary to \Program Files so it's the same as your sample screenshot, but nothing happens, the radio remains on.
To debug, I created a .lnk file using Total Commander and added the /radiooff but that also does nothing.
I'm using a T-Mobile MDA Compact III in the UK, HTC Artemis (or is the Hero as it doesn't have Wifi?).
nigelw said:
Thanks, I've got the files and installed them, but so far I've been unable to get it to work.
I suppose this is more of a problem with the VJ files, but I can't seem to get the radiooff to work. I have moved the binary to \Program Files so it's the same as your sample screenshot, but nothing happens, the radio remains on.
To debug, I created a .lnk file using Total Commander and added the /radiooff but that also does nothing.
I'm using a T-Mobile MDA Compact III in the UK, HTC Artemis (or is the Hero as it doesn't have Wifi?).
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To get it to work, be sure to enable "Force Wakeup". The radio won't go off unless you enable this option. In addition, Vijay has a spelling error on his website, he listed the option "radioff", but in fact it should be radiooff (double 'o' in the middle) otherwise his app doesn't recognize the command.
Optionally, you can enable "Suspend when woken up", this will put the device back to sleep when command has been executed, and works nicely with Vijay's app, your device will only be active for a few seconds. I didn't document this feature: but when you have this option enabled, and the command is still executing after 30 seconds, RunEveryday times out, and will put the device to sleep (but lets the command active in background).
Hmmm, just realized what you really posted, if a loose lnk file doesn't work either, it probably is (indeed) VJ's file that doesn't work. maybe you can ask him if he can add support for your device.................................
Thanks for the prompt response.... but I've just worked out what the problem is!
I followed the screenshot on page 1 using /radioon when it should be -radioon
My .lnk files now seem to work, so I will make the changes on your app and see if it works.
I'd like to start doing my own development, I'm particularly interested in retrieving information from the radio like Operator, signal strength, serving cell etc.
Anyone any comments on usability / stability / issues ?
I would really like some feedback ;-)
I've only been using it a couple of days, but it hasn't given me any problems. The only issue I have is one that you are already aware of, and that's support of text input, or maybe copy/paste?
Hope that helps, and thanks again.
Okey, great. In the near future I'll update it to be more complient with windows-ways-of-working. (keyboard, normal dialog, copy/pasting etc), but as it's all working without problems, it's not very high priority. However, if there's any indication of some bugs somewhere, i would get right on it, cause I really do want it to be reliable.
Hi, have you managed to make any improvements to the software? My install has gone wrong, I launch RunEveryDay but the 2 tasks I had configured no longer list in the dropdown (these were to turn the phone/radio off at midnight and back on at 9am).
I did change the timezone recently when I went on a business trip, so maybe that caused the problem when I returned?

8525-Crapware=Non usable?

I decided to redo my phone. I used the official AT&T WM6 ROM. This time, instead of letting it install its bloatware, I did a soft reset and then nothing installed from AT&T. Basically, I could not use my phone. And I had the roaming triangle up next to the 3G icon in the title bar. I could not use the internet sharing (no media net settings). I couldn't do my normal functions. What are ALL the correct settings for medianet, MMS, getting my phone off roaming, etc. And what settings are useful?
Please help! I really don't want to have all of their stuff loaded into the phone.
Thanks!
Do yourself a favor and use my ROM instead. You'll have all of the connection settings you need and be able to remove the applications you don't want.
Done.
+1
The best AT&T rom without all the crap.
All hail vp3G!
+2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
I downloaded your ROM, but I don't know my bootloader version. And to make things worse, my camera button is broken, therefore i cannot manually get to my bootloader screen. Any suggestions?
Update: I found out my bootloader version. It's 2.03, but that's not an option. What should I do?
Update #2: I did some research and loaded the 2.10.olipro bootloader. Your ROM installed and it just finished doing it's customization.
Congrats... I'm sure you'll like it. This is a solid ROM.
Well, so far so good. I do like all of the utilities built in and such. And the extra memory for installing programs. I have just about everything I want and I still have about 25MB left. The only thing that I do not particularly like is the start menu click. It's nothing major but I could do without that little click. Otherwise, this is indeed a good, solid ROM. :] And, maybe for a future version touchFLO could be included? (Or, where is a good place for touchFLO and the instructions to get it on. I check out the Alpha touchFLO but that was a horrible experience. Basically it blackened my entire screen when I'd use it and it essentially was buttonFLO )
Keep up the good work. :]
vscout said:
Well, so far so good. I do like all of the utilities built in and such. And the extra memory for installing programs. I have just about everything I want and I still have about 25MB left. The only thing that I do not particularly like is the start menu click. It's nothing major but I could do without that little click. Otherwise, this is indeed a good, solid ROM. :] And, maybe for a future version touchFLO could be included? (Or, where is a good place for touchFLO and the instructions to get it on. I check out the Alpha touchFLO but that was a horrible experience. Basically it blackened my entire screen when I'd use it and it essentially was buttonFLO )
Keep up the good work. :]
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Look for an FTouchFlo v1.4.1 on in the Hermes Forums. I installed it and it works pretty well. It did seem to make my Camera Albums app (A really cool app by the way) to act a little funny so I removed it.
RojasTKD said:
Look for an FTouchFlo v1.4.1 on in the Hermes Forums. I installed it and it works pretty well. It did seem to make my Camera Albums app (A really cool app by the way) to act a little funny so I removed it.
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I also tried that FTouchFlo v1.4.1. It didn't really work for me. And it didn't even have the cube. Hmm.

T-Mobile Wing, Text Message Locking Up

I have a Wing and about two weeks ago, I put my first calendar event in it and since, it has been acting up. I deleted the calendar event and it worked ok. So last week I put another event in there I needed and now it runs a LOT slower and locks up when I try to text message. Once I slide it to use the keyboard, sometimes I can put in who I'm sending it to but once I get to the message, locks up. I can't close the program or continue typing. I close the slider and it stays in landscape mode. Every other program on here works well but sometimes slow. After lurking on here, i thought it was a memory issue, program or storage. I've done a couple things to move stuff to the memory card so it shouldn't be memory. I have plenty of space on there and nothing helps. I have an overclock program on here and run it at 228 instead of 186 but nothing changes. I also downloaded MemMaid and have played around with it trying to help but no. Anyone have an idea what could be wrong? Is there a way to reload just the text program to work right again? I don't want to do a hard reset because I have almost 200 contact #'s and I really don't want to lose all those or have to write them down and retype them all in. Thoughts? I know I'm not the only one and after searching/lurking on here for a few days, i'm not finding the help needed. Thanks!!!
forgot to state the facts.
Storage memory 27.56mb free, program memory 16.51mb free. I did delete the MyFavs program which helped dramatically.
Are you using the stock Rom? If so have you tried changing your pagepool? My experience with using the stock rom was disappointment and eventually changed to a custom rom. But I do agree with you it does sound like a memory issue.
Also I would consider finding a Contacts backup program so when it all goes to crap you are safe. There are many options for backing up so I would recommend just using your favorite search engine. But sooner or later your wing will get so unresponsive you will want to reinstall and a backup is a nice option with that many contacts.
I am going to do a backup tomorrow for sure but I don't think it's a memory issue. If it was, how do people have wings working perfectly with 4-8mb and I'm consistantly 13-16? It has to be a software issue which means it can be fixed. Anyone else have this problem? I saw a few people on Yahoo Answers but no one stated a fix to the issue. Beuller?
Also forgot which it just did again is once in a blue moon when I go to do a screen lock, it gives me an all white screen then won't let me unlock it. I have to do a soft reset. Another piece to the puzzle that no one is figuring out. lol
Lately it's starting to do it when I even try to type using IE, say to log into a gmail account or to put in a URL. Somehow the keyboard is locking up the phone all together. If I get a call during a time when it's locked up, it ends up ringing but won't let me click answer or ignore. It seems like it's memory but at all times I have between 14-16 megs of program available with over 26 megs of storage. SOMEONE here has to have an idea, right?
Apparently I've stumped the developers here... time to find someone who can help me.
The stock T-mobile Wing rom sucks... it has memory leaks and it doesn't work very well. Very often, you try to open a program like the camera, and it will say "not enough memory to run" ... or texting will freeze up ..etc...
Best thing to do is install a 3rd party rom...
go here to find one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=349
I personally reccommend ITJE or ASERG roms... I've used both of their roms extensively and have found them to be the most professional, fast and stable.
Awesome man! I will look into them when I get home and will try them out on my Wing. I'll look into the rom you're running because I'm sure it's stable enough. My question is, do any of these roms or are there any plug ins that can let me use multiple schedules on the calendar? If I could have up to 4 or 5, that would be ideal! I use 4 different schedules for work and would like to have a personal one as well. You're my hero.
anyone think this is a stock Rom issue? It's now starting to lock up anytime I try to use the keyboard. No matter the program. Thoughts?
Toxis said:
anyone think this is a stock Rom issue? It's now starting to lock up anytime I try to use the keyboard. No matter the program. Thoughts?
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I still use the stock rom, of course, I haven't had any of the problems you do. It acted up when I first bought it, but I hard reset and followed the steps in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326655.
From what I've read, T-mobiles roms are highly inconsistent. (surprise, surprise...) Some work decent if you don't mind a soft reset every morning, and some are just rotten apples. Try the mods and a hard reset 1st, but it sounds like you need a new rom.
Huh?
Toxis said:
Awesome man! I will look into them when I get home and will try them out on my Wing. I'll look into the rom you're running because I'm sure it's stable enough. My question is, do any of these roms or are there any plug ins that can let me use multiple schedules on the calendar? If I could have up to 4 or 5, that would be ideal! I use 4 different schedules for work and would like to have a personal one as well. You're my hero.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "schedules" but there a lots of calandar .cabs out there like today agenda and pocketcm calender. Check out http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341867
I mixed tapatalk conversations, sorry.

PointSense Suite V2

Is anyone else here thinking of trying this on their TP2 when it's released in a few days time? Looks good. IMHO.
http://community.pointui.com/topic/suite-video-preview-pointsense-suite-v2-make-it-mine
I'm going to try it, it looks awesome!
Well, I'm just trying this and it seems very good! The only problems I have/had are the time being and hour wrong (corrected) and a problem with the Bluetooth Widget showing on when it's not.
Here's a look:
I read in the forum that this is extremely slow?
It's certainly not extremely slow - it's smooth!
I had the issue with time being wrong (GMT not BTS), and when I installed it the bottom bar was like the default Home2 one. When didn't uninstall properly.
Overall, it looks very promising if it works well, but I'll wait till the issues are ironed out, then once it's working great may by Home2 Pro to fully benefit from this.
Lets hope others innovate as much as this with Home2!
I have tried to install it and managed to get point UI working but when I installed the pointsense theme it crashed and wouldn't complete the install, now it won't uninstall because not all the files are there, and it can't be deleted, i've tried total commander and memaid to get rid of it and the theme folders just won't budge, it stops any reinstall and then stops the pointUI program working, i've tried to clean out related registry files using memaid but and i can't find any reference to the files using file explorer or total commander but when I search for installed apps using memaid once again the "blueOcean" theme folder is there, the folders inside are ALL empty but I can't delete them.
it's basically left a bunch of locked dead folders on my phone that mean point UI won't work properly again. I don't want to hard reset so I'm not very happy about the screw up, i'm not getting anywhere on the pointui forum with this either.
I'm sorry, but I can't help other than to say backup all your contacts etc. do a hard reset and reinstall it.
It's working ok on my TP2 and is very smooth. The only problems I have is that Bluetooth shows that it's on all the time, the vibrate widget doesn't work and 1 or 2 random crashes - but I'm sure these will be fixed soon enough.
Hope you sort yours out.
thanks mate, i'm going to wait to see how they develop it over the next week or so, i think the bugs and crashes are more the theme than the point Ui app. it's been designed very quickly and released quick too.
I will continue to try to delete the BlueOcean folders, I don't want to hard reset yet as it's taken a while to get HTC's TF2 to look how I like it and to get rid of the annoying Vodafone look.
It's my work phone too and I don't want to spend loads of time messing with it.....got work to do

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