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Ok, I'm getting frustrated
I've somehow gotten a black speck of something inside my camera lens (not the lens cover...I've already removed that and cleaned it to no avail)
I can see it in the viewfinder, but it never moves. I've tried shooting a small amount of air into the crack above the camera and that hasn't worked either
has anyone successfully removed the camera or gotten into it?
how?
does anyone have any advice for my situation?
camera was a deciding factor for me on this phone and one little speck is messing up all my photos
also, feel free to comment on how stinkin cute my kids are
Did you point the thing at the sun? Part of the sensor could be burned out, which is kind of what that looks like to me.
sryan2k1 said:
Did you point the thing at the sun? Part of the sensor could be burned out, which is kind of what that looks like to me.
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I was afraid somebody would say that.
no I didn't...at least not consciously
Cute kids...
bilbobrian said:
Cute kids...
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yeah, they get that from their momma
anybody know how to fix my little sensor problem?
Mine too....
The camera lens cover is held on with double sided tape. You can pry it off with ease and clean the inside of the lens cover or the camera itself.
You could also access it without removing the lens cover, but that involves removing the battery tray panel thing. That requires removing the 4 torx screws at the corners, removing the void sticker on that screw, and then popping the panel off.
I've had mine off a few times to mess around with swapping the power and volume buttons from the red developer case that I nabbed off EBay. Didn't actually swap the buttons, but took a look at what was involved in the process.
Good luck!
Cute kids man.
Does it affect the quality of the pictures?
ACD168 said:
Cute kids man.
Does it affect the quality of the pictures?
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no, it just adds that stupid black blotch in the middle of all my pictures. I use the camera alot...well, I did before this issue arose.
obededom said:
no, it just adds that stupid black blotch in the middle of all my pictures. I use the camera alot...well, I did before this issue arose.
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dude sorry to hear about this, that is BS!! you should take it into Verizon or call for a refurb! they actually are nice, its like getting a brand new phone, and if it craps out, I guess its rinse and repeat.
Way back when I owned an AT&T tilt, we had to remove the plastic camera cover to improve quality. It appears the same is true of the incredible.
My cover is not very scarred. I would consider my phone in great shape overall. Still, I decided to pop off the lens cover that projects out the backside of the phone. In so doing, there is a very appreciable improvement in contrast and sharpness of my photos. Attached are some samples. Now, if only we can figure out how to remove or replace the lens cover without jeopardizing the camera itself. As of now, it's the only barrier of protection, so removing it permanantly is not really an option.
Note, the video also shows great improvement, as should be expected.
Epicardium said:
Way back when I owned an AT&T tilt, we had to remove the plastic camera cover to improve quality. It appears the same is true of the incredible.
My cover is not very scarred. I would consider my phone in great shape overall. Still, I decided to pop off the lens cover that projects out the backside of the phone. In so doing, there is a very appreciable improvement in contrast and sharpness of my photos. Attached are some samples. Now, if only we can figure out how to remove or replace the lens cover without jeopardizing the camera itself. As of now, it's the only barrier of protection, so removing it permanantly is not really an option.
Note, the video also shows great improvement, as should be expected.
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thats pretty odd, none of my photos look washed out like that with the camera lense still intact
magneticzero said:
thats pretty odd, none of my photos look washed out like that with the camera lense still intact
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THanks. So, based on your feedback I decided to go ahead and clean both sides of the lens cover and also the inner lens cover with some alcohol. Definitely improved things for me. Check out the attached. It's weird because I could not appreciate any smudges of cloudiness by visual inspection. Looks no different to me after I've cleaned it, but the picture can't lie. There may still be a difference with the cover removed.
Epicardium said:
THanks. So, based on your feedback I decided to go ahead and clean both sides of the lens cover and also the inner lens cover with some alcohol. Definitely improved things for me. Check out the attached. It's weird because I could not appreciate any smudges of cloudiness by visual inspection. Looks no different to me after I've cleaned it, but the picture can't lie. There may still be a difference with the cover removed.
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that looks wayyy better.
Isn't the lens somewhat glued onto the phone. Mine needs cleaning but I was afraid of hurting my phone.
Sent from my MIUI Incredible.
camera lens glare
Having a clean lens will help all photography. I think much of the difference in the first two photo examples is due to glare from sun position and or cloud cover. Notice the difference in the shadow from the pickup. Very pronounced with bright sun in washed out photo, and almost invisible in the 'clear' shot.
When shooting outside with SLR's I always try to use a glare shield, and when I have time to compose a shot with my phone, I do the same by just shadowing the lens with my hand. Sometimes awkward, but it does improve outdoor shots in the sun.
Ken
- also, glare is greatly amplified by a dirty lens...
could you list steps on how to remove the lens cover? I dont really wanna break anything with my camera. Thanks
Careful with the alcohol it mucks up plastik & rubber
had the same problem. resolved
whewstoosae said:
Isn't the lens somewhat glued onto the phone. Mine needs cleaning but I was afraid of hurting my phone.
Sent from my MIUI Incredible.
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I had the same concerns. In fact, returned my first two Incs because of dust buildup under the camera glass. (edit-didn't mean to offend. I know everyone is busy/has a life/doesn't check messages all of the time) I wondered if it was latched somehow, or maybe screwed on. One day, out of frustration, I took off the battery cover and just tried to take it off. Turned out it was just stuck on with some kind of soft adhesive; just two short horizontal lines of it, at the top and bottom, behind the red part. I just gently pulled, and it did unstick from the top. I left the bottom connected, but folded the cover/bezel down and cleaned the inside with a little alcohol on a q-tip. Good as new. I wish I had done this on my very first Inc. I would probably still have it, and it had the best display.
I_ronnik said:
I had the same concerns. In fact, returned my first two Incs because of dust buildup under the camera glass. I sent a PM to another member who said he simply 'popped the cover off' to clean it, to ask how. I never got an answer. I wondered if it was latched somehow, or maybe screwed on. One day, out of frustration, I took off the battery cover and just tried to take it off. Turned out it was just stuck on with some kind of soft adhesive; just two short horizontal lines of it, at the top and bottom, behind the red part. I just gently pulled, and it did unstick from the top. I left the bottom connected, but folded the cover/bezel down and cleaned the inside with a little alcohol on a q-tip. Good as new. I wish I had done this on my very first Inc. I would probably still have it, and it had the best display.
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Thanks for the info, I was too afraid to touch it without knowing if it was going to damage it or not.
Sent from my MIUI Incredible.
I_ronnik said:
One day, out of frustration, I took off the battery cover and just tried to take it off. Turned out it was just stuck on with some kind of soft adhesive; just two short horizontal lines of it, at the top and bottom, behind the red part. I just gently pulled, and it did unstick from the top.
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That's actually a little disturbing. By no means do I think the Incredible is somehow the industry standard of build quality, but the lens cover itself looks like it's made by NASA. Disappointing (but useful!).
nordr said:
That's actually a little disturbing. By no means do I think the Incredible is somehow the industry standard of build quality, but the lens cover itself looks like it's made by NASA. Disappointing (but useful!).
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I agree. This seems like a very preventable issue, from a manufacturing standpoint. The only good thing is that there is another piece of glass (square) that is over the actual camera lens, and seems to be well sealed to the camera module itself. I haven't seen any dust under there. I agree with the 'disappointing' aspect. The 8Mp camera w/flash was a big factor in deciding to buy this phone.
just did this, my pictures are coming out much better now also. Thanks for the tip, never thought of this...
Does it work the same way with Incredible S(vivo), i too have some dust under the glass.
makos101 said:
could you list steps on how to remove the lens cover? I dont really wanna break anything with my camera. Thanks
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just remove your battey cover and then you should be able to pop the cover and lense off
moondev said:
just remove your battey cover and then you should be able to pop the cover and lense off
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Thanks for your reply. I was going to ask the same question.
Beware: the camera lens on the back of our SGS II is made of cheap plastic. I learned the hard way.
Yesterday I was using the camera and all was really good. Today all photos were blurred. I checked and noticed a small bend, yes a bend, right in the middle of the camera lens. It is not a scratch, which has been my concern since buying the SGS2, it was a bend. I may be wrong, but glass should not bend, it scratches. Now I don't have a lens anymore, I have a prism.
The phone did not fall, or was treated badly. Most probably, I put it in my pants' front pockets, as I have done for years with my HTC phones (horrible cameras btw, compared to the sgs2), there may have been a contact with a harder surface (a key, maybe, but I don't suppose so), and the lens bended. It's a real pity. I'm considering now removing the "lens" as it is not the actual lens, just a cover I guess, and see if this works.
This may be the best and most expensive cell phone right now, why couldn't Samsung put a real glass (like apple does, btw) to protect the camera?
I hope this warning helps others not to get into the same problem. Maybe using a leather pouch can prevent this from happening (I was using the mesh cover case).
A previously super happy owner, now a very desolate one...
what did you do to your phone? Don't blame samsung for something you physically you did.
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thats strange? a bit of plastic with those dimensions shouldn't bend at all, unless put under direct heat and pressure? :S
can you post pictures taken and a picture of the lens?
I don't have another camera with me to photograph the lens. Besides, it is hard to see the bend, you need the correct angle for the light to hit it and be able to see. But attached is a picture I took with the cell. Kind of artsy...
I would have thought that if it did actually have a bend in it (which seems like an awfully difficult thing to have done), that it would cause a distortion and not just producing a blurry pic like that.
Looks more like something has been smeared across the lens cover.
It's not the lens that bended, it's the protective screen on top of the lense. Looks like glass to me, but it's possible to be plastic. Any way, i doubt it could bend unless you put a lot of pressure on it.
As I said, it was in the front pocket of a not so tight pants, so there might be little pressure, normal pressure as every cell phone suffers in this situation, but nothing exceptional, not much. Nobody sat on my lap as well... That would be a worthy reason at least.
I've had smartphones for the last 6 years, done the same thing since. I'm not asking for a replacement or whatever, so I have no reason to minimize my responsibility.
My point in posting is that it happened. Just trying let others know to not make the same mistake. It is not as solid a construction as, say, the HTC HD2. It needs more care.
Just beware, hope it does not happen to others.
PS: And no heat also, not a teenager anymore to have so much heat near the crotch area...
PPS: Yes, it is the protective screen. My hope is I can get rid of it, and have my camera back. Unprotected, but taking photos, with lots of care from now on...
OP, stupid question: that lens glass out of the box was protected with a transparent plastic film I think, just like the screen. Did you remove it?
Can you make a shot of the lens using a bathroom mirror perhaps, in macro mode?
mbernstein said:
I've had smartphones for the last 6 years, done the same thing since. I'm not asking for a replacement or whatever, so I have no reason to minimize my responsibility.
My point in posting is that it happened. Just trying let others know to not make the same mistake. It is not as solid a construction as, say, the HTC HD2. It needs more care.
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I agree with your here. The way Samsung designed the back of the phone makes it very easy to scratch/ even bend (like it happened to you) the protective screen. I had a HTC Touch HD before and the back of the camera could never touch the surface where the phone was put. With Samsung if you put your phone on a rugged area you might end up damaging the protective screen easily.
Have you been using the LED as a torch or anything like that? Perhaps the heat could have warped the plastic?
kreoXDA said:
OP, stupid question: that lens glass out of the box was protected with a transparent plastic film I think, just like the screen. Did you remove it?
Can you make a shot of the lens using a bathroom mirror perhaps, in macro mode?
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Sure, I took the plastic out. I saw no point in having a very good phone camera weakened by the plastic.
I tried to take the photo you asked, but was not successful. But as I said it was a very small bend, which makes the light enter the lens like a prism. Very difficult to photograph with a normal camera.
Actually, there was a power outage in the area I'm in now, but I don't recollect to use torch that much... I remember I used it for a while, the used some screen light, then on to Kindle. Id on't suppose it was torch, but could it really be so silly like this?!
mbernstein said:
Sure, I took the plastic out. I saw no point in having a very good phone camera weakened by the plastic.
I tried to take the photo you asked, but was not successful. But as I said it was a very small bend, which makes the light enter the lens like a prism. Very difficult to photograph with a normal camera.
Actually, there was a power outage in the area I'm in now, but I don't recollect to use torch that much... I remember I used it for a while, the used some screen light, then on to Kindle. Id on't suppose it was torch, but could it really be so silly like this?!
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Wow, I just tried pushing on mine with my nail, it moves a teeny tiny bit, but it springs right back up Maybe something in your pocket just happened to touch the middle of that little piece of plastic, and just managed to apply enough force to bend it beyond the recovery point, so your plastic piece did not spring back up.
I fully understand what you mean now. But not sure what your options are. It is clearly a physical damage. I would not advise trying to take that piece out and bend it straight, you will mess up the actual lens.
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A previously super happy owner, now a very desolate one...
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flash back stock firmware, reset custom download counter with jig, return under warranty saying the camera takes blurry pictures
godutch said:
flash back stock firmware, reset custom download counter with jig, return under warranty saying the camera takes blurry pictures
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I believe warranty doesn't cover physical damage though.
Ingvarr said:
I believe warranty doesn't cover physical damage though.
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they wont know if you dont tell them plus they wont inspect the phone in that detail closely at the camera, worth a try. IF you bough it from a store, bring it back there and get a replacement.
Hi,
I have the same issue as yours.
Where is your SGS2 made in when you take out the battery and look at the back sticker?
Mine says "Made in China"
Wonder if yours is made in Korea or China.
Please share~
I would send it in too, your chances are good to get it repaired!
Mine is made in: Korea
I would try to replace it if I had bought it in my country. I bought it through a friend from Xpansys US (a UK phone), and I'm now in Brazil. I guess I would have so many troubles with customs here to send it out and back with no guarantee to have it replaced...
My idea is not to take the plastic out, and try to fix it. It is to just take out. I will have a hole there, but there will be nothing distorting light that comes into the lens. I will have to be extra careful, but considering how easy the plastic which was supposed to protect the camera was damaged, extra care is the name of this phone for me.
And I'm not complaining about SGS2's plastic finish as opposed to the metal/glass ones of iPhone or HTC. I actually like this, including the back cover. After you get used to it, it is kind of cool. And it is light. I just wished there was a cover or that Samsung used a hard glass on the camera, or perhaps that the plastic was so tiny and receeded that nothing could reach it. I always like the way Sony and Nokia used to put a sliding cover over the camera lens in their phones. With such a thin phone as ours, I wouldn't mind the extra thickness. Or like my HTC Kaiser, where the plastic was actually on the cover. If it was scratched or broken you could replace the back cover... Sorry, just venting my frustration.
Don't leave that hole uncovered. Your lens will get dirty in no time. Pocket lint , dust and dirt will accumulate in there and break the lens autofocus mechanism. Just don't even think about leaving that hole uncovered.
Hi,
My camera lens is badly scratched.I tried to fix using toothpaste,water,lotion etc but nothing works on him.
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Is there's any thing that should be able to remove its scratches??
EvilKing009 said:
Hi,
My camera lens is badly scratched.I tried to fix using toothpaste,water,lotion etc but nothing works on him.
Pics are in attachment.
Is there's any thing that should be able to remove its scratches??
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Toothpaste method is for removing oleophobic coating, it doesn't really remove the scratches but the whole thing on top of your lense. If it doesn't work for you, then it might be that the camera lense on g2 is different from the phone the guide you were following was written for. If your pics quality is really affected by the scratches, you should change the rear housing backplate that contains camera lens & volume buttons. It's around $20 I think.
MilanStojkovic said:
Toothpaste method is for removing oleophobic coating, it doesn't really remove the scratches but the whole thing on top of your lense. If it doesn't work for you, then it might be that the camera lense on g2 is different from the phone the guide you were following was written for. If your pics quality is really affected by the scratches, you should change the rear housing backplate that contains camera lens & volume buttons. It's around $20 I think.
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yes.Camera is creating foggy and grainy pictures so thats why i am looking for it,how about if i use metal polish on it ??
EvilKing009 said:
yes.Camera is creating foggy and grainy pictures so thats why i am looking for it,how about if i use metal polish on it ??
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Metal polish doesn't sound like a good idea, it might damage the glass (if it's glass underneath anyways). Just noticed mine is scratched too, but pics seem decent. It's a really bad quality I guess since I use double layer hard case for my phone and I doubt lens is in contact with anything most of the time. I dunno man, google a bit about it. Replacing the part if nothing works, or if you mess things up. Be careful. There are some guides online but I think finding out which material is it made of is essential. For example, if it's polycarbonate you can use something with hydrofluoric acid. It will remove everything from it leaving the lense clear. But if it's glass, hydrofluoric acid will dissolve it and make it look like frosted glass.
MilanStojkovic said:
Metal polish doesn't sound like a good idea, it might damage the glass (if it's glass underneath anyways). Just noticed mine is scratched too, but pics seem decent. It's a really bad quality I guess since I use double layer hard case for my phone and I doubt lens is in contact with anything most of the time. I dunno man, google a bit about it. Replacing the part if nothing works, or if you mess things up. Be careful.
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Thanks.I guess it is the only way to fix is to replace its rear cam housing.
Pretty cheap fix, I'm having the same problem with the rear can pics coming out foggy with streaks.
EvilKing009 said:
Hi,
My camera lens is badly scratched.I tried to fix using toothpaste,water,lotion etc but nothing works on him.
Pics are in attachment.
Is there's any thing that should be able to remove its scratches??
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pretty sure you are over it by now, but ill leave this gem over here.
buy off a low quality phone housing and replaced only the camera lens glass cover by popping it out. ebay had an offer for $5+ as i remember.
well, its not that so hard for you to find its housing.For me, in my country , its really really hard to find as no one sells LG parts so much.
If you are having trouble finding it and you don't mind waiting, order it online. AliExpress for example
After trying the camera straight from the box i noticed a blur on the left and right of the picture in wide modes and all the way around in 4/3 or 1/1, perfect focus in the centre and what threw me was that if you pressed the screen to focus near any edge it would focus perfectly there and have a sort of radial blur around it similar to "food" option. The lens looked pretty clean but I quickly cleaned the lense with my t-shirt anyway, nothing else to hand, and it didnt help. Looking online i saw it was a common problem, not the stuck blurry till you shake it one, but what some people were thinking was due to a low f/stop or an attempt at natural bokeh, or just bad wide angled lenses. Almost took it back to the shop when i decided to give it one last good clean using my DSLR lense cleaner (a bit of alchohol like spray and a cloth similar to what you use for glasses). Well f*&@ me it worked, perfect pictures.
Just to be sure it wasnt luck, like i pressed the lense a bit hard and adjusted it somehow, I touched the lense with my fingers like you probably would in real life and tried again, edge blur straight away. Used the t-shirt again like you would most likely do in a real situation and still blurry but less so, the lens cloth without spray was enough to clean it properly this time. So it looks like the lens really likes to cling to grease from your fingers and a T-shirt might not be enough to remove it, just smear it. So if you tried that then try again with proper stuff at least to get rid of any stuck on grease.