Kinoma Player PPC Mobile - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Has anyone tried Kinoma Player on their Advantage or Athena?
Does it work with Real VGA 96 dpi?
How about YouTube's performance?
Kinoma Player: http://kinoma.com/play/

not heard of it before, there's a free version on that site..
will download and have a play later.

The Freeplay is a PITA to activate, you have to enter a valid e-mail address and be connected via WiFi, ActiveSync and GPRS/3G/HSPDA didn't work for me. It sends an e-mail to the address containing a link, which tells the Kinoma servers your address is real, then you close th app and restart it, then you can actually activate it.
Next it scans everything on the device. You cannot do anything else until this completes so if you have a lot of media it can take ages.
Then I find it doesn't support any video file I have on my system. DivX and AVI are no-go, MP4 and WMV need the pay version and 3GP audio is unsupported. In the 3GP video, you can almost see the frames being drawn.
From me it's a "Brother Lee Love" (from The Kenny Everett Show) thumbs down.
(Edit)
More bad news, there's no exit option, and press & hold won't close it either. You have to use the Task Manager to shut it down.

I don't know about 96 DPI but I am using it in 192. The idea is that it will find all of your media without your intervention. This is why it scans everything on the first run, which is slow. Also this is why it has no native exit button, idea being it scans new media in the background. It is neat how it hooks up to a lot of online services (Flickr, youtube, audible, etc). However I am not sure if it is worth 30 dollars for the full version however.
Youtube works well on my 3G connection with 192 DPI.
WMExperts has a good review: http://www.wmexperts.com/reviews/software_reviews/review_kinoma_play.html

More reasons to avoid it, IMO. I hate invasive programs with a passion, and the fact it doesn't support DivX, even in the full pay version, is not something I'm willing to forgive it for.

In the latest version Kinoma is orientation aware. Problem is, on my Athena it's rotating the app the wrong way (landscape orientation = portrait display). Anyone else having this problem?

Ponder said:
The Freeplay is a PITA to activate, you have to enter a valid e-mail address and be connected via WiFi, ActiveSync and GPRS/3G/HSPDA didn't work for me.
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It's true -- to get Kinoma FreePlay, you just need an email address and working internet connection of some sort. Normally it's a five minute process.
Ponder said:
Next it scans everything on the device.
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We've completely changed how this works. I think you'll really like it now.
http://blog.kinoma.com/2008/10/another-great-kinoma-play-update-now-available/
Ponder said:
More bad news, there's no exit option...
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Both Kinoma Play and FreePlay have an Exit command now, too.
-- Charles Wiltgen

galt said:
In the latest version Kinoma is orientation aware. Problem is, on my Athena it's rotating the app the wrong way (landscape orientation = portrait display). Anyone else having this problem?
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BTW, galt contacted our support folks, and we're working with him on this.
If anyone is seeing this, please contact support.
-- Charles Wiltgen

[email protected] said:
-- Charles Wiltgen
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Charles,
Does Kinoma Player support playing flash videos for example from veoh.com ???

cktlcmd said:
Does Kinoma Player support playing flash videos for example from veoh.com ???
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No, unfortunately Veoh doesn't currently provide the services and formats we'd need to support them like we do YouTube and Google Video.
-- Charles Wiltgen

[email protected] said:
No, unfortunately Veoh doesn't currently provide the services and formats we'd need to support them like we do YouTube and Google Video.
-- Charles Wiltgen
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Thanks for the reply. I need to check out Google video too.
But how about hulu.com ???

if they get hulu working that is just plain fantastic

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Youtube videos and VLC player

Has anybody tried using the following to download and view Youtube videos on their Wizard?
http://video.qooqle.jp/dl/
http://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10267151.html
I did it on my laptop....wondering if it can be done on the Wiz.
repsol47 said:
Has anybody tried using the following to download and view Youtube videos on their Wizard?
http://video.qooqle.jp/dl/
http://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10267151.html
I did it on my laptop....wondering if it can be done on the Wiz.
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Please read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=969&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Have a look at this site:
http://www.srobbin.com/mobilevideo/
It a mobile search for google video
You can also use www.orb.com. The app is great. The youtube videos play nicely on my 8125
Thanks guys for the feedback.
freeyayo50 said:
You can also use www.orb.com. The app is great. The youtube videos play nicely on my 8125
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how did u get to view you tube on your 8125? i have orb 2.0 and it keeps asking me for some codecs.
You have to download certain codecs and install them from there website. The codec that i installed to get the youtube videos to play was the ffdshow codec.
what do you guys mean? go to tinytube.net on your phone and you can download any video from 6 different sources, including, google, myspace, and break just to name a few.
its awesome
jawnsixteen said:
what do you guys mean? go to tinytube.net on your phone and you can download any video from 6 different sources, including, google, myspace, and break just to name a few.
its awesome
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I second that. Nothing to install, just download away.
--M
You CANNOT view youtube videos with tinytube.net. Plus it seems im always being queued to view a damn video. Orb is faster compared to the quality...only downside is you have to have your computer running. Which I dont find to be a problem personally
but most youtube videos are on google and myspace anyway
It seems that none of the offered solutions properly play streaming video. Anyone found any other way to do so?
danik_iceman said:
It seems that none of the offered solutions properly play streaming video. Anyone found any other way to do so?
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I followed these instructions and the work very very well on my WM6 Kaiser.
http://www.allshadow.com/2007/11/28/how-to-watch-online-video/
Kind of off topic, but a little similar... Is anyone having problems downloading streaming media from these sites? I have an AT&T Tilt and whenever I click on a streaming link that is flashed based, Realplayer will come up and tell me this file format is not supported. But, there is no option anywhere to uninstall this thing! I also tried adding all associations /w TCPMP but still no luck. Anyone else running into this?

YouTube video - what's the best solution?

When I go to www.youtube.com in Pocket IE, it automatically re-directs to "m.youtube.com". So far so good - everything comes up including the thumbnails. Click on any thumb and you get the expected screen including "Watch Video". BUT ... clicking on that produces an error screen that says "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?"
Clicking YES only results is a "rtsp ... 3gp" file can NOT be opened.
So, how did this guy back on June 18, 2007 do it on the Touch as shown in this video ??
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3930
I thought that the Sprint Touch supports 3GPP streaming out-of-the-box ?
streaming media
You need a program called HTC streaming media. Just Google it.
Streaming YouTube on WM6 (Touch included I'd assume)
anywhereanytime said:
When I go to www.youtube.com in Pocket IE, it automatically re-directs to "m.youtube.com". So far so good - everything comes up including the thumbnails. Click on any thumb and you get the expected screen including "Watch Video". BUT ... clicking on that produces an error screen that says "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?"
Clicking YES only results is a "rtsp ... 3gp" file can NOT be opened.
So, how did this guy back on June 18, 2007 do it on the Touch as shown in this video ??
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3930
I thought that the Sprint Touch supports 3GPP streaming out-of-the-box ?
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This would help
http://ytpocket.com
It's a 2-steps thing:
- Download the TCPMP
- Play Youtube content.
HTH....my 2 cents
second for VTAp. Has videos from all google videos, youtube, and a few other places. Its like connected so its updated the same rate the sites are updated as well. Its just overall great!
i think it s!
is any1 having trouble? i did the ytpocket and when visit youtube on PIE my phone pretty much freezes up...
vTap works great ... thanks for the input !!
vtap is the best that is what im using. works like a charm.
i tried vTap and its okay, but the thing that pisses me off are the load times and the ****ty quality. so i went with typocket.com, they have 2 easy installs that take less than a minute, with GREAT FULL SCREEN quality and super fast load times, almost seems like its streaming
so give ytpocket.com
I've got ytpocket and tcpmp installed. Some reason all videos are very choppy, sound is clean but video looks like its refreshing slowly (like if you don't have the proper video card drivers installed on your pc thats how it looks) Its not buffering or anything.
Are there any tweaks I have to apply to get better video frame rate?
ludester said:
I've got ytpocket and tcpmp installed. Some reason all videos are very choppy, sound is clean but video looks like its refreshing slowly (like if you don't have the proper video card drivers installed on your pc thats how it looks) Its not buffering or anything.
Are there any tweaks I have to apply to get better video frame rate?
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Go into options and switch it from DirectDraw to raw and your videos should be smoother.
spunks3 said:
is any1 having trouble? i did the ytpocket and when visit youtube on PIE my phone pretty much freezes up...
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You have to unintstall the macromedia flashplayer 7 in order for you to successfully view the regular youtube site.
cruise350 said:
Go into options and switch it from DirectDraw to raw and your videos should be smoother.
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thank you that did the trick
ludester said:
thank you that did the trick
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Which options ?
Thank you
Another good option
I have used vTap and I though it was very good, although I had to put up with a lot of wait icons.
I have been experimenting with this option... http://www.avotmedia.com/ and it has been quite usable so far. Video is very smooth and I have not had one single wait icon while using this program.
Check it out. I originally heard about here or PPCG, one of the two.
I use this
http://wmexperts.com/articles/howto/full_youtube_on_windows_mobile.html
works good
Full Youtube is kinda fun and boredom saving
I own a Sprint Touch and just installed this cab and m.youtube.com now works with IE!! I did not have to do a regedit either...
Here is the link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1323244&postcount=17
Kudos to rvbcrs ...
Arnold
I use www.tinytube.net works well also allows you to stream or download if you choose.
arguinto said:
I own a Sprint Touch and just installed this cab and m.youtube.com now works with IE!! I did not have to do a regedit either...
Here is the link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1323244&postcount=17
Kudos to rvbcrs ...
Arnold
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What does the cab actually allow you to do? When to the link but really didn't have an explanation of what it does.
does this work with full youtube or just m.youtube.com (mobile youtube)??
Try using ORB

[6.10.08] Kinoma FreePlayer all in one (mobile media browser)FULL working

HI ALL I FOUND NEW MOBILE MEDIA AND BROWSER PLAYER FOR WIN MOBILE
Kinoma, a visionary creator of mobile media software, launches Kinoma Play to unify media browsing, search and playback, making it the first true mobile media browser. Featuring a user interface inspired by the simplicity and beauty of a digital television, Kinoma Play turns any Windows Mobile smartphone into a digital media powerhouse.
SEE DETAIL HERE
http://kinoma.com/news/press-releases/
SCREEN SHOT
http://kinoma.com/news/press-images/
INSTALLER full working
Vavvvv supppper.
Not so new but non the less, I have the full version and it rocks.... CorePlayer, Spb Online can't even come close....
Downloading... ... ...
It looks amazing, thanks...
Thanks a lot for sharing!!!!
I will also test it
mchapman007 said:
Not so new but non the less, I have the full version and it rocks.... CorePlayer, Spb Online can't even come close....
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i think its usefull to our community its amazing
for some reason it keeps hangin up on random files when I first run program and it scans all directories....anyways to bypass this or set it so it only scans certain folders?
what a fast and cool app. so speed is possible on windows mobile
but its not a full version and only english, but really great, also the youtube player
CorePlayer the best!
!Kernel Panic! said:
for some reason it keeps hangin up on random files when I first run program and it scans all directories....anyways to bypass this or set it so it only scans certain folders?
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official forum for kinoma
http://forum.kinoma.com/
surprising :O
[damn, i did not refresh page, sorry for double-post
LazaPasi said:
CorePlayer the best!
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you must be kidding, there's nothing like tcpmp 0.81, good rom and set of plugs lol!
regardless of that, will try Kinoma(i'm surprised by that release).
I think this app is simply awesome. I will be upgrading h to full version ASAP. Great find; thanks for posting.
Best surprises:
- SPEED
- streaming podcasts
- auto update of local content
- internet radio
only thing missing that would make me pee myself: Pandora
thanks. concept is cool and could be replacement for a lot of apps. but video playback without fullscreen just doesnt get it done. maybe if you have smartphone with no touchscreen.
Yeah...it is a great app.... I love how you can use Shoutcast in the free version.
Did anyone find a way to make the YouTube part play in landscape mode?
$30 for a video player... I know WMP is not great but TCPMP is free and works darn well. Looks like Kinoma has a "free" version but the site does not tell you if this is a trial period only, if there are missing features, or ?
i found out that this version does not play my wma files, so its in some parts a limited version. ALso i could not find a qway to play youtube in landscape ?
amazing! only bad that fullscreen doesn't work.
It doesn't seem to support DivX...?!
Admiral_Thrawn said:
It doesn't seem to support DivX...?!
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"Technical Notes
Kinoma Play supports MPEG-4 Video SP and AVC/H.264 codecs, 3GPP (same as MPEG-4), Flash Video (Sorenson Spark codec), QuickTime Movie (same as MPEG-4) and Windows Media 9 (WMV9 codec) video formats. For streaming, Kinoma Play supports HTTP, RTSP, and MMS streaming."

Best settings Coreplayer on a Xperia?

I just bought the newest coreplayer because it bothered me that there was so much i could not play smooth or could not play at all.
I now have it installed, and i was wondering what the best settings are so it will play any video smooth.....
Any suggestions?
I'd like to know that too.
gallous_boy said:
coreplayer can be downloaded free [WAREZ], works like a treat.
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There is no free Coreplayer unless it's cracked right? That would be illegal mate and make the mods come knocking on your door very quickly....
Just a hint....
To get back on-topic:
If you have coreplayer then you can play almost any avi, mp4, xvid file you might have. No need to encode movies, unless you want to shrink down the size and resolutions, otherwise... copy, paste and play
lol, nevermind
gallous_boy said:
its not cracked, however its a 30 day trial
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Got a link to that?
There is no 30 day trial. If there was then you'd be able to download it directly from the publisher.
guru_fordy said:
Got a link to that?
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kyphur said:
There is no 30 day trial. If there was then you'd be able to download it directly from the publisher.
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Thanks kyphur that was my suspicion
so no one can answer the first post then??
I benchmarked a few things and came up with these settings:
These speed up things a little, but not much. (+1fps):
Video:
- "QTv Display" is fastest for me
- "Smooth Zoom" : "Only for 50%" <--- screen resolution is high, you will not see a difference in quality.
Advanced:
- "Slow video memory" : Enable <--- Speedup!
- "Higher priority music playback" : Enable <---- Music plays even if you surf in Opera.
- "Disable AVC deblocking filter" <---- enormous speedup, but makes the quality of the video worse (blocking/artiiacts)
QTv Display:
- "TyTN II" driver mode: Enable <----- Speedup on X1
Other settings (no speedup, but are nice):
Player:
- Play music in background
- Single click fullscreen
Advanced:
- Register with SPB Menu system
Is your xperia a prototype? I've got a release one and CorePlayer seems to be able to use the Imageon chip (fast)
Coreplayer don't use the imagineon chip...
Source : coreplayer forum
Hope for the 2.0 version...
can you guys use the integrated youtube feature? allways when i click on a link the coreplayer, an error tells me that the filetype is unknown!?
regards
tarnaman said:
can you guys use the integrated youtube feature? allways when i click on a link the coreplayer, an error tells me that the filetype is unknown!?
regards
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exact same issue for me, was wondering if anyone got a fix for it ?
yeah I asked the same question and they need to give us an update for the youtube.
coreplayer integrated youtube
The integrated youtube used to work on all settings. Now it seems it only works on the RTSP setting under network. This is the lowest possible quality but it works.
tarnaman said:
can you guys use the integrated youtube feature? allways when i click on a link the coreplayer, an error tells me that the filetype is unknown!?
regards
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why don't you use the standalone youtube app to access youtube video? I think the interface is so much better.
554321 said:
exact same issue for me, was wondering if anyone got a fix for it ?
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hy, i found the solution, just change the "YouTube Format" in the network settings to "RTSP (medium)" and the integratet browser and player works like a charm but, now i have the next problem ^^ is it possible to stream any tv shows like giga etc? i always get error messages. i think the xperia has superior hardware but the software is just some piece of ****. at the moment i can stream nearly nothing ^^ is that a fault of the codecs or of the player itself?
Very strange - on my sex1 this player is SLOW AS HELL!!!
Only 10fps! Video 800x480x25 etc. according the Encoder's settings.
But Windows Media works normal at the same time............
Ethermind said:
Very strange - on my sex1 this player is SLOW AS HELL!!!
Only 10fps! Video 800x480x25 etc. according the Encoder's settings.
But Windows Media works normal at the same time............
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dont quote me, apparently windows media is the only thing that has hardware acceleration.

iplayer downloads?? Can't get them to work.

Sorry for the noobish question but my problem is as follows....
I know the BBC Iplayer site states the HD2 is not compatable and either way I thought I'd put some downloaded programmes on my phone to watch.
So I downloaded them as 'portable device download' from the iplayer site to my PC and then tried to drop them onto the card to watch. They're WMV files. But I get an error message stating "the device has either stopped responding or has been disconected".....not sure what I'm doing wrong and would be glad of some advice. All I'm trying to do is copy and paste them over to the phone card.
Anyone?
Can't explain that I'm afraid but I did read a while back that the files need to be synched through Windows Media Player and in the past that the file needs to pass a drm check before it will play - someone wrote even longer back that starting to play the fie on the PC so it checks drm, then moving it worked.
Do you get that message when moving anything else to your sd card?
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Anyone?
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This is a problem to do with transferring large files rather than the HD2's ability to play the WMV files. Try connecting the HD2 in Disk Drive mode - it worked for me.
You might want to try searching this site for an application called myplayer - it makes accessing iPlayer a lot less painful and allows higher-quality downloads.
Dark Fire said:
This is a problem to do with transferring large files rather than the HD2's ability to play the WMV files. Try connecting the HD2 in Disk Drive mode - it worked for me.
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And has just worked for me as well. Many thanks
Shasarak said:
You might want to try searching this site for an application called myplayer - it makes accessing iPlayer a lot less painful and allows higher-quality downloads.
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mPlayer download high quality videos in .mov format, for some strange reason it didn't want to play with my latest coreplayer. It was bit let down like
hassan said:
mPlayer download high quality videos in .mov format, for some strange reason it didn't want to play with my latest coreplayer. It was bit let down like
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Really? Odd. Have you tried playing them in TCPMP?
Shasarak said:
Really? Odd. Have you tried playing them in TCPMP?
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I've tried that, and it just crashes my device when I try to play stuff.
Shasarak said:
Really? Odd. Have you tried playing them in TCPMP?
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No i didn't really as i hate the UI, but if you thing it may work I'll install it tonight.
After downloading very long episode of East Enders other night and couldn't play it, it made me bit scared of trying again. I'll give it an other go any way.
Dark Fire said:
I've tried that, and it just crashes my device when I try to play stuff.
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Did you set the video renderer to GDI?
Shasarak said:
Did you set the video renderer to GDI?
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I didn't - do I need to? I've just reinstalled TCPMP and now it won't run at all...
This may not solve your problem but you can use the BBC iPlayer on the HD2 with a simple change of settings. See point number 36 in the *Leo Hints & Tips* - Things you may not have known.
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I didn't - do I need to? I've just reinstalled TCPMP and now it won't run at all...
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TCPMP is more likely to be stable (i.e. not crash or lock up the phone) in GDI or Raw Framebuffer mode. So is CorePlayer, come to that.
If TCPMP is crashing before it even lets get you into the menu, that may be because it's trying to display the opening frame of the video that you previously told it to play, and doing that in DirectDraw mode. You can get around that by temporarily moving or renaming whichever file it's trying to display.
I have myPlayer and Coreplayer.
With myPlayer you get the latest viewable content ... but can search for anything. If you have the iPlayer website open that may be easier to search.
Once you've found what you want, just use myPlayer to download over wireless to your device (you can also stream for instant playback (even over 3g).
myPlayer has a view downloads screen with all the programmes you've downloaded. You select one, say view now ... it launches Coreplayer ... and it plays perfectly.
Never had a problem. This is infact one of the most amazingly together capabilities of the HD2 with this huge screen. In the evening I choose something to watch on the train on the way to the city the next day ... love it.
Paul.
meegulthwarp said:
This may not solve your problem but you can use the BBC iPlayer on the HD2 with a simple change of settings. See point number 36 in the *Leo Hints & Tips* - Things you may not have known.
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I'd rather download the videos than stream them, so I don't have to worry about signal strength while I'm watching stuff...
Shasarak said:
TCPMP is more likely to be stable (i.e. not crash or lock up the phone) in GDI or Raw Framebuffer mode. So is CorePlayer, come to that.
If TCPMP is crashing before it even lets get you into the menu, that may be because it's trying to display the opening frame of the video that you previously told it to play, and doing that in DirectDraw mode. You can get around that by temporarily moving or renaming whichever file it's trying to display.
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OK. I tried moving the file, but it's still crashing. I'll uninstall it again, later, and delete any settings that are left behind in the registry. And when I get TCPMP working again, I'll give those other modes a go.
Having got iplayer downloads to play on my HD2 having put them on the sd card I'm now having some playback problems.
Basically the quality of the picture and the sound is fine in principal but upon playback on WMP the programme pauses or sticks every second or so. The pause is only for a fraction of a second, just enough for the picture to momentarily catch or stick before continuing. I could live with this but at the same time the sound is also distorted making programmes unwatchable. If downloaded to my PC the same programmes are fine, it's not the download itself it's just once on the phone thats the problem.
Tried various programmes, all the same. Tried downloading direct from iplayer site to the card, still occurs.
Could this be a card problem. It's a sandisk 8Gb SDHC card. Any ideas?
I configured Opera to try direct streaming from iPlayer ... and it worked fine althought he picture was a little pixelated.
I know CorePlayer is a cost ... but if iPlayer is important to you, the combination of myPlayer and Coreplayer for iPlayer (and other channels) is incredibly simply ... live streaming is better quality ... and the download manager is completely seemless. Quality of downloaded video is genuinely perfect ... as good as anything at high bit rates I have on my Archos AV5100.
All I can say is that if you can stretch to Coreplayer ... I'd go with myPlayer.
Going through the website for either streaming or download (even on a PC) is so much more clunky.
Paul.
pgamble said:
All I can say is that if you can stretch to Coreplayer ... I'd go with myPlayer.
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I haven't tried this on an HD2, but on my TP2 you can quite good results from myplayer without having to buy CorePlayer; I use Streaming Media Player for streaming, and TCPMP to play the .mov downloads.

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