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I decided to take a vacation from my GSII and decided too give the DVP a try and wow! is a gorgeous unique phone. I bought this device for cheap and my expectations weren't high at all. First thing I notice the great looks of the DVP have then the screen quality blew me away, I was expecting a screen like the HD2 or HD7 but is great nothing like Super Amoled Plus but its still better than the first HTC Windows phones. Where the DVP fell short or more like flat on its face was the camera, the camera is just a hit and miss. Too bad the DVP will just be another good phone murder by such a bad launch I hope MS keep supporting this device.
That sounds about right as:
SAMOLED+: SGSII
AMOLED: V/VP
S/LCD: HD2/7, Streak5
I can attest that even if it isnt a SAMOLED+, it's still nicer then S/LCD.
Wish it was SAMOLED though, even without the + the difference between a bonded display/glass and unbonded is pretty noticable.
Esp if you end up getting dust under the screen
Dell doesnt need MS to help them screw up launches, they already hold the record for that. (it's every single launch, or at worst all but one launch screwed up)
The camera is due to it being a WP7 device? The V has a 8MP cam and the VP has a 5MP cam (though I cant speak for the actual image quality on each), dell wouldnt randomly downgrade the camera without reason.
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That sounds about right as:
SAMOLED+: SGSII
AMOLED: V/VP
S/LCD: HD2/7, Streak5
I can attest that even if it isnt a SAMOLED+, it's still nicer then S/LCD.
Wish it was SAMOLED though, even without the + the difference between a bonded display/glass and unbonded is pretty noticable.
Esp if you end up getting dust under the screen
Dell doesnt need MS to help them screw up launches, they already hold the record for that. (it's every single launch, or at worst all but one launch screwed up)
The camera is due to it being a WP7 device? The V has a 8MP cam and the VP has a 5MP cam (though I cant speak for the actual image quality on each), dell wouldnt randomly downgrade the camera without reason.
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I agree the camera issue is all software not hardware if you look at the reviews of the Nokia N9 and the Lumia 800 or 900 the pictures come out more washout and the N9s pictures come out better with the same carl zeiss lens. Yeah this device was the most wanted of all windows devices and dell delayed the launch people were getting testing devices bugs and device issues more delays and the list goes on. I hope the designers of the DVP get another shot maybe in another company.
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I agree the camera issue is all software not hardware if you look at the reviews of the Nokia N9 and the Lumia 800 or 900 the pictures come out more washout and the N9s pictures come out better with the same carl zeiss lens. Yeah this device was the most wanted of all windows devices and dell delayed the launch people were getting testing devices bugs and device issues more delays and the list goes on. I hope the designers of the DVP get another shot maybe in another company.
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HTC didn't seem to have any problems with the software and produced good cameras in the Titan and Radar. The crappy camera is all Dell.
I think he misunderstood me, I believe the camera issue is mostly hardware.
I dont recall what the WP7 specs are for cameras (besides having a rear one),
WP7 is really anal about chassis requirements, they had to use a specific sensor for the camera?
The VP has a 'worse' cam then the V regardless and dell devices in general have ok at best rear cams.
My old iphone 3g had a better camera, but it was intentionally limited by both hardware and software (fixed focus, no digital zoom)
Keep in mind that the cam isnt a single unit, it's the sensor and lense (and the software backing it).
Even if all WP7 devices used the same sensor there's nothing stopping manus from using their own lenses.
Dell really skimps out on lenses, that's much more important then whatever sensor's inside regardless.
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HTC didn't seem to have any problems with the software and produced good cameras in the Titan and Radar. The crappy camera is all Dell.
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I'm not arguing that the dell camera is a low quality cam but the issue is software more than hardware. Me mentioning Nokia n9 and 800/900 was an example about camera quality, they use the same camera same optics and they still didn't manage to get the same quality. Why? because the software needs improvement nothing is wrong with the lens used on the 800 or 900 so is it Nokia been lazy or Windows holding the lens back who knows. The camera on HTC are good to average but dell did a poor job on the camera.
Grats on getting your DVP. I dont know if anyone has this but when I take pictures with my DVP, there is a pink tone to the picture(and it's not from my fingers being near the lens or something). But anyways, great phone but what really gets me is that there is only one case for the DVP which is the Otterbox communter not counting all of those leather cases.
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Grats on getting your DVP. I dont know if anyone has this but when I take pictures with my DVP, there is a pink tone to the picture(and it's not from my fingers being near the lens or something). But anyways, great phone but what really gets me is that there is only one case for the DVP which is the Otterbox communter not counting all of those leather cases.
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I kinda doubt you can fix the pink spot try changing the camera settings maybe a miracle happens but that's another software issue. The other issue I have is dust under the screen I guess dell didn't seal the device correctly now I have to take it apart and clean it but I'm sure thats not gonna fix this problem in the long run.
So was in town earlier and stumbled across a male a cappella harmony group rehearsing, as you do...
So strange to see i thought I would grab some video on my M8, what I didn't realise was how good the mic's are on the M8 very nice sound quality (even once mushed by youtube) on most smartphones the sound is thinned out too much at that distance and in an outdoor and live environment really incredible quality.
pretty good!
well, m7 was able to capture deeper bass but its ok... Ijust miss the the OIS
I think it maybe cause by the camera's OIS components.
Is that normal？
can i return warranty？:crying::crying::crying:
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I think it maybe cause by the camera's OIS components.
Is that normal？
can i return warranty？:crying::crying::crying:
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Mine has a slight noise when I shake it with the camera off. With the camera on it does not make the noise. I have heard about this on other phones as well and it has not proven to be a problem or cause any issues that I am aware of. I have had my phone since November and it is fine.
i have had 3 of these phones. All had the noise. Once camera is activated it stops. It is the OIS.
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 3 XL's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Speakers are horrible at low volume. Anything below 50% is muffled. When they are turned up they sound amazing.
Compared to my HTC U11 I replaced with the Pixel 3 XL, they sound terrible, the bass is non-existent and the clarity is terrible. They do get loud though, wish Google made them sound a little bit better.
I was just doing some testing/comparing with what I came from (Moto E4 Plus), and the XL blows it out of the water. I tested some music, and YouTube videos. So much louder, crisper, clearer, and has full body bass. The other thread about the vibration being so bad I can't agree with either. Yes I have some vibration, but at full volume on both phones, the XL has about doubled the vibration of the Moto, but it isn't a deal breaker. It's nothing I would complain about considering how much the sound is more like a home theater for me compared to the Moto.
Speakers are muffled, but louder then my Pixel 2 XL.
My top speaker is muffled and only about 10% of the total sound. Almost like there is hardly any sound coming out of the top speaker
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My top speaker is muffled and only about 10% of the total sound. Almost like there is hardly any sound coming out of the top speaker
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That's by design from Google. There's a bunch of articles on it, and I think even in some threads here. The top speaker is to compliment the bottom, not to be equal.
Makes sense. I do think I remember hearing something about that
The speakers are not that impressive, especially at low volume. Sound is muffled and there is distortion or white noise when watching YouTube reviewers like JerryRigEverything or LinusTechTips.
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I am not to impressed with the audio volume on speaker phone as well. At least compared to my Galaxy S8+ that I would rate as "ok" . I would rate the Pixel 3XL as "poor" for a speaker phone. I wanted to love the Pixel after almost a week of use I am returning it back to Google today. It was hard to justify spending $950 on a phone and trading in a S8+ that is just about better at everything for what I use than the Pixel. Screen brightness in the sun was another issue I had against the Pixel.
My speakers sound good. I watched JerryRigEverything and I eventually did hear the distortion but I had the volume so low that I had to put it up to my ear and couldn't watch the video. I've played songs and at different volumes I don't hear any distortion.
I have the 3xl, and find the speakers at full volume sound better with the screen face down. I suspect the vibration of the phone backside makes full volume clarity worse on a hard surface.
I just got my Pixel 3 XL.
I also have the speaker problems.
First:
Watching YouTube Videos with Music or voices.
Absolutely not clear, it is distorted.
It is the bottom speaker.
Then I called Google service.
During call (I used normal phone function with top speaker) I could hear some sounds. Not very loud but frequently repeating. Something like vibration or a "cricket". Not easy to describe. Especially when the volume of conversation is not so high.
Now Google wants me to do some other solution possibilities and if it's still not working then I shall contact my provider/dealer.
I guess finally they wanna exchange the devices.
The wording sounded that they already know very good about that issue.
My notifications sounds are really wierd and there's distortion when I listening to podcasts ... That's was the deal breaker for me . I can't justify spending 1.5k on a phone with really bad speakers and hoping for a update. Sadly I was loving this phone besides of that issue.
can anyone report if the December update improved the speakers when listening to media?. Distortion might've been addressed in this update.
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can anyone report if the December update improved the speakers when listening to media?. Distortion might've been addressed in this update.
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So far, since installing the update I haven't had any at all. Some people on other threads are reporting the same. While some say there are still certain (really specific) use cases and frequencies where they are experiencing the buzzing/distortion.
I personally had muffled sound issues at low volumes, which for me is totally gone so far. It is crisp and clear now.
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I have the 3xl, and find the speakers at full volume sound better with the screen face down. I suspect the vibration of the phone backside makes full volume clarity worse on a hard surface.
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I feel the same way about the phone's backside vibrating at high volumes, I also noticed that it can be affected by a case that has a little bit of play like mine does.
I came from a Samsung S7 and feel like it had a better quality sound specially, after a mixer path mod. Also had a scenario the other day when I made a phone call and it sounded like someone else was there like when you use a land line and someelse in your house trys to make a phone call not knowing you where using the phone. Also 2 different people told me they couldn't hear me but when I call them back they hear me fine.
Wow okay. Nice speaker. My phone have mx player and it's really nice too.
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 5's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Pixel 5 has an 'under display speaker' earpiece, but the Pixel 4a/4a5G have a classical earpiece.
Video "Speaker comparison Pixel 5 vs. 4a" https://youtu.be/D5WP3HqJD9s
"Speaker quality? It’s honestly not the best, the one under the glass is clearly not as strong so you get an asymmetrical listening experience." https://youtu.be/ghYLxw6BKV0
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/j4wb4o/comment/g7nnrdr
"This is definitely the weakest point of the phone. It’s not quiet but there’s no bass at all unfortunately, for phone calls on speaker it will be fine, watching movies without headphones..... not so much. This is all subjective though as I’m using an 11 pro max and the speakers are great."
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/j4wb4o/comment/g7own2l
"Just had a go on some demo models in store and compared Pixel 5, Pixel 4a5G and OP5T (my current phone). I would say that there is tangible difference in sound quality between the 5 and 4a5G (and even my current OP5T). The sound is more 'twangy' and harsher than the the 4a5g, which does sound more balanced overall."
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/j5h654/comment/g7s9fph
"The P5 does sound more tinny and raspy than the 4A5G which has a nicer more rounded sound. I would say there is a noticeable difference between the two. I am not an audiophile or anywhere near but even I could notice a difference."
Ahhh why Google?, they always have to screw something up. Speakers are high on my list, i really wanted to get this phone but I guess I will have to wait another year to see what other shortcoming they will come up with.
Hopefully by then true bezel-less phones would have caught on.
Thx for the review.
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Speakers are high on my list.
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Pixel 5 has an 'under display speaker' earpiece, but the Pixel 4a/4a5G have a classical earpiece. I will buy the 4a 5G instead!
Video "Speaker comparison Pixel 5 vs. 4a" https://youtu.be/D5WP3HqJD9s
SGH-i200 said:
Pixel 5 has an 'under display speaker' earpiece, but the Pixel 4a/4a5G have a classical earpiece. I will buy the 4a 5G instead!
Video "Speaker comparison Pixel 5 vs. 4a"
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Thx for the link, but the 4a is a no go for me with that bottom chin.
Apologies if this is a stupid question, but might the speaker quality be improved by software updates down the line, or are their perceived limitations all hardware-related?
Shouldn't really be an issue so long as it doesn't effect the volume or clarity while making calls.
Tiny phone speakers, as good as they may sound, are not how you should listen to music or videos.
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might the speaker quality be improved by software updates down the line, or are their perceived limitations all hardware-related?
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One speaker is behind glass and the other is not. They don't sound the same (stereo balance is bad). Surely Google can not trick the physics!
"Speaker quality? It’s honestly not the best, the one under the glass is clearly not as strong so you get an asymmetrical listening experience." https://youtu.be/ghYLxw6BKV0
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Ahhh why Google?, they always have to screw something up. Speakers are high on my list, i really wanted to get this phone but I guess I will have to wait another year to see what other shortcoming they will come up with.
Hopefully by then true bezel-less phones would have caught on.
Thx for the review.
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You could get the 4A 5G then. Bigger screen, pretty much identical, costs less, and 6GB of RAM instead of 8GB. Pretty good trade-off is say.
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You could get the 4A 5G then. Bigger screen, pretty much identical, costs less, and 6GB of RAM instead of 8GB. Pretty good trade-off is say.
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Thx for the link, but the 4a is a no go for me with that bottom chin.
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Thx, but I already have replied to the suggestion.
The trade off I noticed in the videos is the 4a5g has a dimmer screen than the pixel 5 while the pixel 5 has a tiny speaker.
Personally I'll take a tiny speaker because most times I don't listen to speaker music unless I'm in he shower and even then it's a waterproof phone
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You could get the 4A 5G then. Bigger screen, pretty much identical, costs less, and 6GB of RAM instead of 8GB. Pretty good trade-off is say.
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Also 90hz the pixel4a?..
60hz is a no go...phone is lagging like it still running kitkat...
Rashad83 said:
Ahhh why Google?
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Waterproofing.
MrBelter said:
Waterproofing.
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The new Xperia 5 II is waterproof and has front-firing stereo speakers, like the Pixel 2/3 sported.
Pixel 5 sound quality: "I upgraded from an OG Pixel and while my initial impressions of the Pixel 5 are that it feels superior in almost all areas, the speaker performance is very disappointing. The sound output feels muted and tinny compared to the OG Pixel." https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/jb3o3q/enabling_mono_audio_on_the_pixel_5_improves/
sounds from the device is pretty good on speaker phone calls.
Watching youtube or listening to music it is ok, not fantastic. Not a deal breaker for me but may bother some
There is a reason that home speakers have grills instead of glass. No software can fix this.
How many actually take phone calls without bluetooth or a wired headset?
i'd think putting a screen protector on this would deaden the sound even more.
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sounds from the device is pretty good on speaker phone calls.
Watching youtube or listening to music it is ok, not fantastic. Not a deal breaker for me but may bother some
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Agreed - its loud and clear for speakerphone calls and casual listening (and i have a tempered glass protector applied)
If you want to annoy people on trains or in parks with your bangin' bass tunes the look elsewhere - or do what most sane people do and use headphones :laugh:
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Agreed - its loud and clear for speakerphone calls and casual listening (and i have a tempered glass protector applied)
If you want to annoy people on trains or in parks with your bangin' bass tunes the look elsewhere - or do what most sane people do and use headphones :laugh:
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Yes it's a non issue unless you cover the bottom firing speaker.