Just out of interest.
Is there any Headset which is chargeable through the mini usb port of the Pocket PC?
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why would you want to do that. It would cause the battery to discharge even faster as it is supporting to 2 devices.
At most if you are lucky you may end up with 2-3 hrs of life just using your phone very lightly.
hmm I don't think a bluetooth headset does suck that much?! May I'm wrong . I thought it would be nice to reload your headset on your mobile phone...
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Hi everybody.
To get the most out of my battery I always wait until my device shuts down due to lacking battery. The I chargt it until it the end and the battery displays 6+ houres.
When I recharge the battery before its empty I only get 4+ houres when its full.
I also read that the battery's lifetime is increased by only charging it that way.
My problem is the cradle that charges it everytime I sync.
Is there a way or tool to switch charging on/off for the cradel?
Thanks alot
Alex
The way I understand it, modern batteries do better when charged regularly in small increments. They do very badly with multiple deep discharges, which can actually damage them.
So I would actually disagree with you that what you are doing is a good idea.
If you still decide to do this, the simplest way is probably a manual activesync via bluetooth, using a dongle, as it actually charges via USB too.
Surur
Right the bluetooth thing would be a good idea.
And you might also be right that you should not charge it in such an extreme way...
I read this an a PC Magazin.
I don't know if its wrong or right. the only thing I know is that the battery lasts longer when I charge it thta way.
Thanks
Alex
The battery in the xda2 is designed for constant charging, I dont see how you would get more battery life because if you acheive your desired aim the xda2 will be discharging during sync and will give less battery time than if you let it top up the charge.
I read that Ion battaries have only a limited number of complete chargings bevor the are broken...
alex
I believe the initial question was: will this constant charging thru the USB sync&charge cable harm the battery. I derive from the answers above that it actually is harmful to the battery. And that is exactly my personal experience.
My first Windows OS PDA with a LION battery was the iPAQ 3630 back in 2000. I also believed the PR back then that the LION battery could be charged as much as you wanted. Untill after about 9 months, when a full battery charge lasted no more than 1 hour! Yes, 60 minutes of iPAQ fun and then it was over.
I then got into a similar discussion as we are having now (other forums, XDA Developers didn't exist back then). Nobody knew the correct answer 4.5 years ago, like today still, but the majority believed that constant charging was bad, even with LION batteries.
I then started to discharge the iPAQs battery to 30% (the 'red' area) and then recharge it fully. As soon as the green LED was on remove the iPAQ from the charger immediately. After having done so several times I noticed that the battery would last longer. After some 10-15 times of discharging to 30% + recharging to 100% untill the green LED is on the battery would last 3-4 hours again.
I then switched to the O2 XDA, with which I had the same experience. Keeping the battery topped constantly decreases it's ability to keep a charge. Or maybe it can't be charged as 'deep' anymore, I don't know, anyway the battery will last (a lot) less long.
I now have the QTEK 9090, and I use Bluetooth to sync, so I don't have to use the sync&charge cradle all the time. I still only charge the battery when it is at some 30%. And the battery lasts some 5 hours with brightness set to medium, MP3 playing, web surfing and all that.
But I agree, it is stupid that you have to act like this, that you can't use the cradle all the time. If the batteries weren't so damn expensive I would simply wear them out and replace them. Something I couldn't do BTW with the iPAQ and XDA with their fixed batteries.
BTW I still have the XDA, I use it in my car for navigation (have the original O2 car kit with GPS mouse). It is 3 years old now, still has the original battery and this battery still lasts 3+ hours with backlight on! Which proves my point I believe.
Battery power / GPS
You may have answered a question that i had been pondering for a while, USB charging. The other thing is, you mentioned you use a GPS mouse, was that with an XDA 1? and if so which one? regards rotorjack
XDA I GPS mouse
It's the 'original' XDA I GPS mouse which can be hooked up to the original XDA I car kit, but in fact it is the light blue/cyan coloured Leadtek 9532 GPS Receiver. Works great BTW.
Ok before I return this phone I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing the same problems... I know someone on another forum said that I should use only htc chargers so that my phone doesn't screw up... but this problem has happened with even my regular in the wall socket home charger so I don't think it is all about the connection...
here is problem agian from original post... moderator was kind enough to let me post it.
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Ok, here is the deal...
I have what says on my phone 49.08 of program memory in my phone as we all do. In use is always some HIGH number of like between 30.78 or higher. Free is 18.30 or lower... For example if I use WMP OH MY GOD... it drops to like 6 or 7.
Other programs do this as well. What I am wondering and what I am observing is that after I multitask a little and close all programs running when I try to plug in my phone to charge it sometimes doesn't catch the charge. SUPPER ANNOYING... I think this is a serious issue. I don't want to return the phone but GEEZ this sucks balls. As well, if the wall charger is the best charger the usb to PC and car usb adapter thingy is even worse. I notice sometimes I have to shut the screen off to have it even take a charge. What gives? Lastly, if the battery is low it is like the problem is further magnified.
This phone is almost like a lappy when it comes to needing a wall socket but it sure peaves you off when you do have a socket and you can't even obtain a charge.
My main question is... is this a memory management issue? it is like the phone gets jumbled with cache and can't correctly coorespond to vital commands ie. like TAKE A CHARGE...
What have you all found and what solution is the best. I think I need to start tweaking my phone... I haven't tweaked it yet but have a few programs / apps running... Cingular 8525 / hermes.
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I'm the nasty Mod who thought initially these issues were all dealt with - but on second thoughts perhaps they have some new aspects.
christian15213, when you say it does not accept charge can you say how you know it is not charging e.g. is the Red LED lit up?
Mike
Are you using a wall charger, usb cable, or car charger to charge? If it's the car charger, you need to either buy a charger specifically for the 8525, or modify the cable to work properly (I believe the mod involves grounding one pin to notify the phone that it's connected). There are several threads on this issue under accessories.
BTW, all of the stuff you're running to make your phone pretty eats up a lot of memory and that's probably your other issue.
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Are you using a wall charger, usb cable, or car charger to charge? If it's the car charger, you need to either buy a charger specifically for the 8525, or modify the cable to work properly (I believe the mod involves grounding one pin to notify the phone that it's connected). There are several threads on this issue under accessories.
BTW, all of the stuff you're running to make your phone pretty eats up a lot of memory and that's probably your other issue.
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To answer you both... the wierd part is this. and again perhaps this is a memory leak thing too<<<which I am not knowledgeable to what that exactly is>>> but I think it is something when the program loses memory, per se, and can't gain it back when a program closes. I notice WMP does this as well as yahoo go...
but in anyevent. the reason why I mention that is because when I have opened a few applications i.e. pie, agile, etc and then close them it seems to have built up memory and then I will go into my car, hook it up to the usb ipod connection and it wont charge.... I know this because the light/led on the cigarette part stays green... when the screen closes / meaning the backlight turns off then they charge goes red as if to say, "its now charging."
Now if I do a soft reset and sort of reset the cache and memory it then works fine. perhaps that damn yahoo go needs to go go... but honestly I noticed this before even that program was installed. but yea, I bought the charger for HTC to see if that helps
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then I will go into my car, hook it up to the usb ipod connection and it wont charge
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That's your problem right there.
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That's your problem right there.
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yea, but it does it on the computer sometimes too, meaning hooked up to the USB... maybe you're right... but the way the memory leaks it is quite annoying.
hmmm... let me see if the charger thing corrects the problem...
p3600 will not charge anymore, when i put in htc headset, the headsets work, but windows won't find it, and can't charge through wall ac adapter either
ppatel223 said:
p3600 will not charge anymore, when i put in htc headset, the headsets work, but windows won't find it, and can't charge through wall ac adapter either
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Happens to me ocasionally.
Try a softreset and it will charge again.
Happens to me all the time...
Can it be connected to the fact that some applications crash and leave the system unstable ?
I did soft and hard reset, but it won't charge. Now the phone is dead, i am in the process of arranging funeral with HTC. I email HTC, have not heard from them yet.
May your P3600 rest in peace...and be quickly replaced (maybe only the battery pack...)
My phone is acting very weird too. I charged it up, left it overnight. Turned it on in the morning, it was at 90%, after about 3 minutes of wifi, it was at 80%.
Charing - need 500mah
Make sure that you're using the right charger - I was using accessories from my Dopod 818 Pro - the P3600 would say it was charing, but wasn't actually -because we need a 500mah instead of 250mah (or some such).
ppatel223 said:
p3600 will not charge anymore, when i put in htc headset, the headsets work, but windows won't find it, and can't charge through wall ac adapter either
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my trinity stop charging too...
the headset works fine but it doesn't charge and don't sync too... i've tried hard reset but still not charge...
how do you fix that?
Have to send it to assistence?
I've the same problem... help!!!!!!!
Did anyone get anywhere with this? Been a while and no updates.
My GF uses my old Orange SPV M700 as a GPS in the car, and plays solitaire.
It started to drain really quickly then it refused to charge at all.
I figured the battery had died, so bought a cheap compatible to check it was that.
The cheap compatible came 80% charged, but after two hours of charging, while switched on, battery was showing 70%
I've tried both the original HTC charger and the motorola charger that came with my Bluetooth headset.
Neither seem to work, does it sound like a soft reset might help, or does it sound like the phone is kippered.
I'm not an Orange customer any more (They wouldn't do me a good deal on an Omnia), and it is only as a SatNav/PDA rather than phone, so while it would be no mad loss if is dead, SWMBOd doesn't want to spend out on anything to replace it.
I problem with mine was the mainboard, and it had to be replaced.
If yours still has warranty, deliver it to a repair center.
If not, you have to find a way to charge the battery on another device...
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I problem with mine was the mainboard, and it had to be replaced.
If yours still has warranty, deliver it to a repair center.
If not, you have to find a way to charge the battery on another device...
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I guess I'm looking for an external battery cradle and then and keeping a spare battery charged.
I think the phone is nearly 2 years old and out of contract
Just a quick update.
Both the motorola and htc USB chargers I have are both full 550miliamp usb chargers.
When plugged in the led goes from solid red, to flashing orange, temporarily to solid orange then a low battery warning, might be fine for 5 minutes or half an hour, then cycles back to solid red and arround again.
Sorry if this should be in the general forum but there are different opinions for different phones so I thought it's better to ask here. I don't use my tattoo nowadays but I'm getting a new contract today and my old will run for 2 more months and I thought I'd use the sim-card for my old contract in my tattoo only for wifi hotspot usage and keep it on 24/7, like a router. Will that ruin the battery? I know it can't run on charger only but I don't want to destroy the battery cause the tattoo is a good backup phone. How does it actually work when the battery is 100%, does the charging stop?
Yes
I used to have my Tattoo plugged in most of the time. Within one year my battery got swollen up and was able to give only 2 hours backup on standby. Although this was my experience, maybe the battery was defective in the first place. I suggest that you take out te battery plug in the charger and switch on the phone. If it does switch on, then you may usr it this way. I have also noticed that te phone goes very hot while in tethering mode.
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I used to have my Tattoo plugged in most of the time. Within one year my battery got swollen up and was able to give only 2 hours backup on standby. Although this was my experience, maybe the battery was defective in the first place. I suggest that you take out te battery plug in the charger and switch on the phone. If it does switch on, then you may usr it this way. I have also noticed that te phone goes very hot while in tethering mode.
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thanks for the reply! I know, it get's almost so hot that it burns when using wifi tethering, that's also an issue with keeping it plugged in all the time cause high temperatures is bad for the battery. Booting it without battery doesn't work. Can't understand why this isn't standard with all phones, a lot of people use wifi tethering and it eats battery fast and you have to keep the phone plugged in the whole day. I have unlimited data and it's fast enough so I don't need any other internet at home so I use wifi tethering daily.
Alternate option
If you are not considering the cost factor, you can buy a 3g Dongle and a Wifi router that supports it. If that looks costly to you you can go ahead using your phone and then replacing the battery when it goes bad, if ever. A new battery costs about $12 here in India.
How about making charge braker, a circuit that would stop charging and start it again every lets say 12 hours
Yea, a kinda timer. We have such things in Denmark.
Sounds Cool
It sounds like a cool geeky idea. Never thought about such a thing. Does anyone have a DIY tutorial on how to go about it?
Why don't you just plug you're phone on a programmable socket?
You just have to configure the socket to restart every 8-10 hours...giving your battery the time to normaly drain and restart charging.