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need help after installing xda developers ROM

I installed the XDA developers ROM, and everything is ok except the internet connection through GPRS. I wrote he APN that my provider gave me, (Orange-Isral) is "internet.orange.net.il". No other settings. I can connect to the internet and send and receive emails, but I can't browse in internet explorer neither in the ftxpbrowser. Before the upgrade it worked fine. Also before the upgrade, every time I click on an internet link the QTEK eould connect to the ne. Now it doesn't. Any idea what am I doing wrong? Someone had experience similar probems? Thanks.

Connection settings didn't worked for me too after I flashed the original developers ROM. Even worse after the second and the third re-flashing - autoconfig just wouldn't work at all.
I "fixed" the problem simply removing "operators" section from the mkrom shell script and configured everithing manually then. Of course you'll need to build the ROM yourself. But it's also a great fun.

One problem with the current version of mkrom, is that it may put the operator rom after 81bc0000 if you have too many files in 'files1' ( and then autoconfig.exe cannot find it anymore ).
the lost connection settings probably have something to do with 'defaultconfig.xml' ( which I currently ignore ). I have to fix our own welcome.exe to process that too.
expect an update with many problems fixed soon.

If I reflash the original qyek version or the 4.17 UK O2, would zi be able to connect again?

I flashed the devolopers rom but cant browse the internet...My email and msn are fine just no web access i am on vodafone and i configure my own settings.
Have just used adaptrom to flash back to 3-17-03 awaiting any updates on devolepers rom, It was very good to say the least just i need mobile ie.
I will have a play at the weekend.

Same here. I flashed the ROM on a US T-Mobile unit, and can't surf with ie. Thunderhawk works, but ie is crippled. That defaultconfig.xml file needs to be executed. Is ther any way to execute it manually :?
Thanks.

Have you execute autoconfig.xml file??
I have the same problem, I have put my autoconfig.xml file on the ROM but don't update nothing....
have any one try it....to set connection, favorites on Internet Explorer etc...

I have found defaultconfig.xml file on my Qtek 2020 on \Windows
directory but If I change file for example to add favorites to Favorites Explorer this don't appends ..
anyone have the solution for this problem???
please...

Replacing My App by the default dial app and a few more..

Hi
I have a few question
--is it possible that i replace my application with the default dial applciation when the start call key is pressed . i read the post that by replacing /windows/cprog.exe this can be achieved temporarily. i want it for permanent.
--secondly is it possible to stop any default voice call when number is pressed on touch screen or through dialer application..........by intercepting the internal message mechanism .
--How XDA2s make a voice call ....is it through tapi ...i m talking about the normal phone calls ....if its tapi i will b help ful if a detail is provieded whether a seperate TSP is required for that ?
Thanks in advance ...any help will b highly appreciated .....
Regards,
Tabish

Replace cprog.exe with custom phone app
Hi hsibat,
I have almost the same problem. I want to replace the original phone application with my custom phone app. In this custom app I want to control which phone numbers are allowed to dial, and which numbers to accept a phone call from.
My results untill now are:
- My app works well when it runs besides the originale cprog.exe, using tapi calls like lineInitialize ... tapiRequestMakeCall etc.
- When I overwrite \Windows\cprog.exe with my app (now also named cprog.exe) I cannot dial or receive calls anymore. Building up a line and selecting a provider in the end results in "No service" in the connection dialog. Despite the fact that i'm seeing when debugging that the registration with my provider results in the correct provider (lineRegister) "NL KPN".
Obvisouly cprog has some more coding in it to setup a good connection.
- After this I tried to analyze the disassembled cprog.exe, but I didn't succeed until now to reveil which extra coded I needed in my app. Reading and interpreting the disassembled code is not easy for me, because I'm not experienced in assembly.
The disassembling I did in the following way:
1. Extract the pda os into a rom file using the OSImage tool (which you can download from http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDAtools-Jeff.exe).
2. Extracted all files from the romfile on my pc with the tool dumprom from itsme (which you can download from http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/dumprom.html).
3. Disassembled cprog.exe with IDA Pro 4.17.
- Now I'm trying to get my app working by replacing the original cprog.exe with my app and renaming the original cprog.exe and store the file somewhere outside /Windows, and starting the renamed cprog.exe from within my app. This Worked!!!! BUT my purpose to block "screened" outgoing calls can be bypassed. When an incoming call is missed you still are able to view missed calls (icon in the taskbar), and if you selected a missed call the original cprog phone app is started (dispite the renaming). And you are free to make any call.
So I'm searching for a solution for this "leak". A solution could be by intercepting ALL outgoing call by receiving a message in my customized app. But like you I didn't figure out how to do this, yet. Or an even better solution would be to get the missing coding I need to be able to exclude the original cprog.exe completly.
You problem to make your overwritte of the cprog permanent can be solved I thing by making your own rom file with your own cprog.exe included and upload that to your pda. Using the tool makerom.
I hope you can extract some tips from my quest, and I hope someone has some tips for me.
greetings

Re: Replace cprog.exe with custom phone app
i'd recommend you to use completely different method. As you know OS communicates with GSM device through a COM-port. It sends normal AT-commands. You can hook the COM-port, parse ATDxxx and modem's responces and hide unneeded commands.

Replace cprog.exe with custom phone app
Thanks Mamaich (famous celebrity in France),
I think your solution is neater, do you perhaps also have an example of how this should be done ? I searched the whole bb, but couldn't find more then cproghook. Learning by example works perfect for me.
Compliments for this great app by the way. I wonder how you come to these kind of ideas of hooking ?
tai

Re: Replace cprog.exe with custom phone app
http://mamaich.kasone.com/rover/IrCOMM.rar
archive contains a wrapper driver around one of COM-ports. It has no comments and was written to a different device.

Hooking COM
Thanks again Mamaich,
I'll start trying to make this work for my purposes. As soon as I have some results I 'll update my findings to the BB.
Greetings

Replacing the default Dialer App by hook or by Crook ..HELP!
Thanks a lot guys for so much suggestions.
What i m doing is trying a different options now mostly based on your suggestions....listed follows
-- I downloaded the WINCE source code provided by Microsoft under shared source code .Under there faq they said them selves that the source given is very different what runs on a pocket pc ..contains custom applications as well ....secondly i ddidnt find any thing related to GSM in the code but did find about Tapi which is used by a number of applications . i didnt find any thing like cprog.exe as well.....i m stuck what should i do ...i m unable to find even the dial button event handler ........i dont know how to put the dialing application do i need to build a custom one and if so ..how can it b possible to call it when the dial button is pressed ....
-- it might be an idea that intercepting the com port might help...but when there is nothing insied the availabe source code abt the GSM ....what i want to ask is is that are u talking about some external GSM device connected to com port .....if that so how the pocket pc makes the call
sorry if the questions are too childish but i m very new to this ..
Any help will be highly appreciated ..
Regards,
Tabish

Re: Replacing the default Dialer App by hook or by Crook ..H
hsibat said:
-- it might be an idea that intercepting the com port might help...but when there is nothing insied the availabe source code abt the GSM ....what i want to ask is is that are u talking about some external GSM device connected to com port .....if that so how the pocket pc makes the call
Click to expand...
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The code provided by MS does not have the code for RIL and other stuff.
Our devices contain 2 parts - a GSM modem and a Windows part that works with it via TAPI and RIL interfaces. They internally use COM2 to communicate with modem device (also COM9 is used during data session, but this can be ignored in your case). You can intercept all commands going through COM2 and filter out unnecessary ones.
MS shared source code would provide a little help. Most info can be obtained by decompiling DLLs/EXEs with IDA (www.datarescue.com).

Intercepting the COM2 port for GSM
Thanks for the reply,
i m into writing an application that will intercept the commands destined for COM2 as its a gsm port right ....i hope this will work for me .
Is there are good starting article for writing hooks for COM ports and is there any detail available for WinCE what port is for what purpose ?or u can say WinCE internals .
Any extra advice or information will also be highly appreciated in this regard.
Regards
Tabish

Re: Intercepting the COM2 port for GSM
i don't know such articles

Hi
Now i m trying to get into details and trying to write a GSM port interceptor .
A few problems that i have that ....i wanna create a seperate rom iamage i mean my little application will be a part of OS . but unfortunately i dont have the RIL module code in the shared source code ...there is no TSP ( not remember the exact name )avaialble that Tapi uses to make the call.
Secondly if i dont make it a part of OS then will it b possible to make it background process that will run every time OS starts and will not disappear even after a hard reset.
I will be needing guidance to achieve this .....
ideas matters alot .....
Thanks in advance ..
Tabish

to add files to ROM you can use itsme's romtools, or you can make a CAB and place it to extended ROM so that it would be installed after each hardreset

Oks ...
making the cab file is the second part ....
firstly i tried to extract the rilgsm.dll and ril.dll from my device , i was succedded in getting rilgsm.dll but was unable to get ril.dll....infact i wanted to have a look at the functions provided there ....
i m not sure where to start from .....i check the forum ther i found a very complex solution for hooking the dll in this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19558
and i will have to hook the dll in ordert to intercept what even command goes to the port .....
Correct Me if my direction is wrong ....
Regards
Tabish

I have followed many posts on how to establish data call and am still having problems.
1) When collecting data from TAPI shall i createfile through COM 1 ? because when i try to, i get an error message. Maybe shall i get rid of CProg.exe ? However in my program i'm only requesting a connection to recieve data from a remote module.
2) When connecting through COM 2 with AT Commands i get normal AT responses. However with my ATD i have more difficulties. I dial ATD"0123456789"; and i get an OK then NO CARRIER response. Anyone got an idea ?
thanks for your helps.

K-JAM MMS Configuration

I have posted this over at MoDaCo but i thought i would give it a go here as well. :wink:
I stupidly installed MS Global Contact Access (GCA) for PPC on my K-JAM to see if it would work (which it did) but it has caused other problems so i had to uninstall it. This is probably due to MS still not releasing a WM5 compatible version of GCA.
Now, when i open the messaging app and select "MMS Configuration" from the menu instead of the MMS Configuration screen it opens a New Meeting request.
Would anyone know how i can get my MMS config back without a hard reset? Is the setup for MMS in one of the cabs in the extended ROM or is it built into the main System ROM
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Chris

You can download a cab file from club imate for mms, sms settings.

If you know how to access your Ext ROM, you can have a look there and 'guess' the CAB that is resposible for the MMS settings. It should fix the problem.

My new TyTN...seems to be missing MMS...

...ok.
I just got a TyTN. On my HTC Universal, there was a MMS console or something...forget what they call it...
But it was flawless and there isn't one on the TyTN from what I can see...
Can someone help me out? It MIGHT be my general non-familiarity of the device so I don't see it...but I don't see any programs or settings that even come close to referencing it...
Thanks...

If I understand the questions correctly
From messaging.
Menu
Tools
Options
Select MMS

You have to install the Shortcut-MMS.cab from ExtendedROM.
I for one, didn't install it, cause the whole messanging application (SMS and E-Mail) starts much faster without MMS installed.
At the moment I'm searching for a proper replacement for MMS that's not that lazy.

Missing MMS Menu on HTC TyTn
Hi,
I have the same problem on my HTC TyTn. In fact, MMS menu is missing. I've read the answer but I don't know where I could find shortcut-mms.cab.
Could you help me, please.
Jee

unhide the extendedrom as described in the extrom unlocker thread. then you should find a file *shortcut*mms*.cab in the dir /ExtendedROM

Hi,
Thanx for answering. I've tried what it explained, but nothing happen. My phone coming from SFR (vodaphone). Maybe there is something else to do.
Regards
ROM Version 1.23.163.3
ROM Date: 06/18/06
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Protocole: 32.53.7018.01W

Me, too, and I think I've got it figured out..
I have most of this problem solved but need one additional piece of info (at bottom); maybe someone can fill that in for me.
I got a new 8525 from Cingular.com the day they came out. The letter 'A' stuck so I had to exchange it for a new one. The first 8525 I had showed the MMS directory just fine but the second one they gave me did not. I'm not aware of any differences in the way I set them up or how this could be, but MMS has been missing from my second 8525 since I first fired it up. Cingular support was no help.
Here's what you need to do to fix it:
(1) You need to unhide the Extended ROM. Info on doing that can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283750
Note that in my situation my phone was already SIM unlocked, and I found that I did not have to CID unlock my device in order to fix this problem. Information on what the difference is between SIM unlock and CID unlock can be found here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SimUnlock
(2) Now, when you open File Explorer, you'll see a new folder listed called "Extended ROM." Open that folder and you'll see a list of .cab files that can install various things for you.
Run the MMS installation .cab file called "MT_Shortcut-MMS-Hermes" to install the MMS function that somehow got missed in the initial setup. I found that I was not able to install this program to Extended ROM, and I did not try to install it to the storage card, but it installed in my Device memory just fine.
Open up Messaging, and you should now see the MMS folder, unless you soft reset, in which case you have to re-install. In my case, no configuration of the MMS function was needed, and MMS works just fine.
QUESTION: Whenever I soft reset my phone, I lose the MMS function again and have to re-install from the .cab. How do I make MMS a permanent feature of my phone?
I hope this helps folks get at least as far as I've managed and maybe someone else can help finish answering this problem. Thanks in advance.

OK...
Let's say a stupid asshole erased his ext-ROM and is now missing the whole Shortcut-MMS.cab .
Is it possible to flash back only the ext-ROM ?
Can someone send the .cab to the asshole (meaning ME!) ??
Thanks

Replying to myself :
contents of known extended roms are here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms

Show Service provider name ('operator' / 'network') in dialer

Since I am using WM5 AKU3.3 (TMO HR origin) on my Wizard I do not see the active operator name in the dialer anymore.
The info is still available on the device as ie the wireless today plugin still shows the name.
In another thread someone stated that the WM5 AKU3.3 ROM do not show the operator name in the dialer by default.
My question is if there is a registry setting (ie in the RIL branch) or any other hack that can fix this.
Please note: I am NOT talking about a carrierlogo. I allready replaced the default (containing the T-Mobile logo) file with an empty transparent one.
The reason for wanting to have the operator name in the dialer is to check what network I am on because I use a dual sim. I have the info on my today screen (using the SIMToday plugin) but want to have it in the dialer also (just like with previous ROM versions).

The answer is a very simple: don't use T-Mobile ROM. All other ROMs, WM5 and WM6 have operator name in a dialer.

That is an option, but the WM5 AKU3.3 rom from TMO is the only official rom of that generation available. And i'd like to stick with it because of that.
I know previous ROM's (also TMO) do show the operator name, just this one doesnt.
If this is specific to this ROM, there should be a way to overcome the issue?
Meanwhile I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324844
But the reg keys mentioned are not on my device.

a program can check if reg keys are present without auto creating them if they are not
in which cause only way to get the program to get the behaviour from the reg keys is to manualy create them

Rudegar, can you give me some hint on what you mean with your statement? You puzzled me . . . . .
I do know how to create reg keys and set values, but its strange that a whole set of keys simply isnt available . . .