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Hi,
I read so many reviews but I still have one important question before I buy this device. I currently have a Kaiser and I am very happy with the Keyboard. However, when I tried the Touch Pro, I was less satisfied with the keyboard compared to the Kaiser. I do not have an Xperia to test. My question is, how does the keyboard compare to the keyboard on the Kaiser? I know the keys are spaced out a bit, but what about the feel and tactile feedback? Does it feel comfortable typing on it?
Thanks for any advice.
Very nice keyboard once you get used to it.
My favorite keyboard so far is Eten M700, then Xperia, then Kaiser tied with hermes.
I hate ipaq 910, ipaq hw6945 and those similar.
ps. eten m700 is a bad phone compared to the others listed, but it's keyboard was great.
medellinrob said:
Very nice keyboard once you get used to it.
My favorite keyboard so far is Eten M700, then Xperia, then Kaiser tied with hermes.
I hate ipaq 910, ipaq hw6945 and those similar.
ps. eten m700 is a bad phone compared to the others listed, but it's keyboard was great.
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Thanks for the feedback. Do you think it is better than the Touch Pro?
I have to disagree the comments the Sony has the worst keyboard out of the three phones. I would suggest going into a shop if you can and testing the keyboard first. I found it easier to use the onscreen keyboard from the diamond) than sliding the keyboard out which defeats the object of having a keyboard on the device. It does get easier as you use it more but if you have used a kaiser for so long when you get the x1 you will be disappointed about the keyboard.
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I have to disagree the comments the Sony has the worst keyboard out of the three phones. I would suggest going into a shop if you can and testing the keyboard first. I found it easier to use the onscreen keyboard from the diamond) than sliding the keyboard out which defeats the object of having a keyboard on the device. It does get easier as you use it more but if you have used a kaiser for so long when you get the x1 you will be disappointed about the keyboard.
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I would prefer that SE will comes out a Phone Keypad like the one used in Touch Pro so that you can sms using the normal phone keypad.
I am using the Touch Pro Phone Keypad by default with the Touch Pro Volume Control and it works great!
The main problem with the keypad is that there are no cursor keys, you have to move your hand on to the X Panel or touch the screen. It's a pain at first, but once you get used to it it's fine.
The only other thing is that the back lighting can make the keys difficult to read in some lighting conditions.
It's not as good as the Touch Pro keypad, but the bigger screen made up for it and that's what swung my decision.
I previously owned a HTC Wizard, and I liked the keyboard on it better than the X1's, but I'm still getting used to the feel of the new phone, and I expect this feeling to pass. The keys are smaller than I'm accustomed to, which takes some getting used to. Other than that, I think the keyboard is great.
I used the d-pad on my Wizard at least as much as the directional keys on the keyboard, and often wondered about the redundancy. I think the choice to leave them out was a good one.
The backlight sometimes makes the symbol keys (and numbers) a bit hard to see in dim light (the lighting is very good when it's a bit darker, or bright), but still it's a lot better than in the Wizard.
And this time I have a Scandinavian keyboard layout.
Yay \o/
Having used both the Touch Pro and Xperia, if you're just talking about the feel of the keyboard then my vote goes to the Touch Pro without hesitation. In my opinion the Touch Pro has a better feel, and if autocomplete and autocorrect is important to you, then the Touch Pro is a lot better than the Xperia. Having said that however, I'm typing this message on a Xperia cos I've fallen in love with the screen and optical mouse pad.
Hi,
does anyone know an alternative onscreen keyboard application (apart from TF3D).
To me it seems the X1 onscreen keyboard is pretty much unusable without the stylus.
Thx in advance,
Sinergy
I use the SPB keyboard, i prefer it to the blackstone keyboard purely on the basis that the blackstone doesn't mess up with the predictive text of my X1.
the SPB has feedback options with vibration/sound, supports many languages and the skin fits nicely with the menus etc
my 2 cents: (copied from the my post at the inxperia forums)
THE FREE:
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HTC Keyboard (from Touch HD)
the free HTC keyboard package also installs a normal phone keyboard.
So it installs:
- QWERTY Compact (two letters per button, for normal use)
- QWERTY Full (like hardware keyboard, for landscape use)
- Phone Keypad (phone keyboard, landscape and normal)
The Compact and Full version switch as you go from landscape to vertical, but you can't use the compact in ladscape and vice versa. So Compact -> rotate screen -> automatically oges to Full QWERTY.
Quite nice actually.
Problems: A bit sluggish within Opera and breaks the volume-zoom keys in Opera.
TouchPal (below) is better:
THE BEST:
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TouchPal:
Installs itself as default on startup (great). Everythings fluid, no bugs so far. Goes away nicely in Opera and after a landscape switch.
I noticed a small, but *very* important detail about TouchPal:
The leftmost (QAZ) and rightmost (PLM) buttons are a bit further away from the edge (so they are easier to hit with the recessed screen!). I tested both Touch HD Blackstone and TouchPal QWERTY. TouchPal has the better buttons, as they are easier to hit.
The TouchPal also has tabs with:
- 3 keyboards (phone, qwerty, qw-er-ty)
- 1 symbol board (which slides to the left and right, customizable)
- 1 number board
- 10 configurable text snippets, multilanguage fT9 input and
- a navigation/cut/copy/paste board, which is really handy.
So my vote is clearly for TouchPal (also looks better). No problems on X1 at all!!!
Problems: No landscape resizing, just black bars on the left and right (I think its okay). The 2on1 buttons (QW-ER-TY) are strange (you can't double tap, it works differently)
tldr;
Get the TouchPal software. It'll change your life!
THE TWEAKERS Keyboard:
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Fingertouch PRO
Completely skinnable and you can make custom layouts (dvorak for example)... Very good, I bought it but now use TouchPal.
Links:
Cootek TouchPal: http://www.cootek.com/
Teksoft Fingertouch PRO: http://www.fingertouchpro.com/
Touch HD Blackstone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439
I'm using SPB too. Much better than stock.
thx
I'll give a try to both of them.
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
mcbyte_it said:
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
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Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
istnelane said:
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
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Try disabling the animations: Options-> (slide the screen) -> "Disable advanced animations". Maybe it helps.
Honestly I don't know. I had to turn my X1 off every 2 days because of exams I had. But the TouchPal keyboard has so many benefits that I won't mind soft-resetting every once in a while. I mean it's the only QWERTY where I can actually touch the Q/P/A buttons with the recessed screen.
chongbh said:
Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
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Take a look at FingerTouch, they also have a lite (free) version on their site. The video (I time-marked it) with the Phone keyboard is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqhBMNr7iS8#t=47s
check out http://shapewriter.com - it's quite good if ur using two hands to type, works fairly well with one hand. Here's a vid of it in action on the Android => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPS2piSSRE
TenGO Thumb pretty good too for one-hand operation, but falls flat on it's face when trying to type in one or two numbers vs HTC Phone Pad.
Cliquick (http://www.cliquick.com) has nice large buttons, layout like HTC Phone Pad but larger, excellent querty landscape keyboard and "optimised" key layout, BUT lacks T9.... which is a pitty because this would've been the best with T9 for one-hand operation.
I tried TouchPal but found learning curve too steep. Plus it's too difficult to use with one hand, which I need to do so when standing in a bus.
EDIT: Have been thinking about FingerTouch, BUT needs two hands to type fast, so that's a bummer. I'd prefer ShapeWriter over it.
I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
Fingertouch has 5 keyboard layouts provided. At least 2 of them allow one-handed typing and pretty fast. It has its own T9 and also word completion.
I'm using Fingertouch Pro and allow further customisation, but unlike Fingertouch (which is free), the Pro version is paid software.
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I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
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Crzy! <--- my Touch HD keyboard "forgets" characters too..
I have been experimenting with making my Atom Life finger friendly and less stylus dependent
However im very tempted to go back to stylus for input.
The 2.7 screen is too narrow and the borders do not help.
I am currently using the Full QWERTY of the HTC Diamond keyboard found in the development section and its hit or miss. I end up using the stylus with it :S.
New versions of PCM keyboard are ok too. But they are unstable at times.
However hard to beat for customization.
So what SIP do you use, preferably QWERTY. Commercial entries are welcome too.
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I recommended using FingerMenu to make the soft button menus larger and pretty. it is found here in the development section. version 1.1 is quite good D-Pad compatible.
Also Vaj555's new SipSwitchII is awesome combined with FingerMenu. i do not need to use the tiny triangle to switch
Resco Keyboard Pro. Best Keyboard for QWERTY in my opinion primarily because it's extreme customisable and the fact that there are tonnes of already existing skins.
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Resco Keyboard Pro. Best Keyboard for QWERTY in my opinion primarily because it's extreme customisable and the fact that there are tonnes of already existing skins.
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i'll agree with this one, i always prefer resco as my SIP
+1 with resco!
hmm and does it work good with the raised screen corners???
I am serirsly conteplating making a PCM skin/layout in FITALY lay out as its very good for one finger/stylus use. Plus i use fitaly long time and its great for english and russian in english letters
Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
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Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
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I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
Thank you!
Chris Cross said:
I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
Today i tried TouchPal. it is the BEST keyboard for the HD2 (at least for me).
It is so east to type accurately now.
i agree with Touch Pal i can write extremly fast plus a lower sensitive cab installation is just perfect - at least for me.
Zoomboard from vito
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
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one of the reasons that FK had problems with the HD2 is the speed of the capacitive screen. Some people correct that with the lesss sensitive Cab on this site. With FK go to options and delay the two hold times. I've set the left one to 400 instead of 250 and the right one to 250. Now FB works well on the HD2.
Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
I installed TouchPal and thought it was pretty naff compared to the standard HTC keyboard, to be honest. I can type faster and mode accurately using the standard keyboard. In fact, this post was written using it!
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Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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in the options tab there are two response time possibilities, eg left and right one.
I've tried a few of the others now, but still easily prefer the HTC supplied keyboard. I just wish it had the same gesture support as the WM default keyboard.
just another suggestion for a good keyboard for HD2: Cliquick. This also rotates the screen to landscape when pressing the .,123 key in whichever program you're in. You can find it here: http://cliquick.com/
edit: you can also set it to be your default SIP in the option settings.
Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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It's a pitty that this is only in English si I canot use it. BTW, it has great resemblance with Dasur's SlideIT. That one is blazing fast and easy to use (and supports several languages), but its main flaw is that it does not support landcsape. In this orientation it messes up the screen and a soft reset is needed. Otherwise this would be my nr 1 keyboard. Now that is Cliquick.
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
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Sounds like the exact problem I have on my Advantage (the rotation issue). I've been the only one to report it, so I'm forwarding your note here as well.
I'll have to try Cliquick. Is this the one where you have to hit the same key several times to get different letters (like hit ab to get "a" and hit it again to get "b" ? Guess I'll find out.
Glad to hear the SlideIT works well except for the rotation issue, so if they can fix it, I'll be very happy.
I have noticed the latest version of Fingerkeyboard refusing to open when my HD2 (Leo) has come out of standby - can't recall what was running just prior so haven't raised it with the creator yet. I couldn't open another keyboard so had to take the battery out on the two occassions it happened.
A keyboard I have been using of late, as it worked well on my Touch HD is Zoomboard
I have tried both slideit and shapewriter and on the HD2 I much prefer slide it, its mainly due to how it handles the irratic behaviour of the capacitive screen, I mean HTC need to fix up its response, in shapewriter the line drawn with your finger tends to be scribbled everywhere missing letters, to much lesser extent on slidit, the keys are much easier to hit in slideit imo. the finger sliding keyboards are the way to go either way, I can type so much faster with slidit and takes only little parctice to get a real knack of it ... slideIT is fantastic
Hey guys,
I still have problems with typing text in SMS, Twitter, Mail etc. I have a lot of ghost typing. I decreased the sensitivity with BSB Tweaks and also discreased the sensitivity with XT Hack Beta 2 to 15000 (Manila Options tab, sensitivity Manila) But still ghost typing and many miss clicks.
Sorry for saying but the Iphone 3Gs really typs (?) wonderfull. Is there another way to make the HD2 keyboard better, or maybe add a Iphone 'like' keyboard?
HSPL 1.66
Manila: 2.5.20121412.2
ROM: 2.13.531.1 Artemis 15.0 NLD
Radio: 2.10.50.19_2
I just installed swype on mine and am really impressed by it. A mate at work says he uses the predictive text number keyboard for typing.
typing
You are right. The keyboard on HD2 sucks compared to I-phone.
Even tweaking it does not help (Increase Tap Time/ Decrease sensitivity)
Sometimes the key input will just shoot off like a machine gun (Repeated input) if the key press is not firm enough. On the I-phone, that will never happen (Verified on my family member i-phone).
I hope someone can find a tweak to disable too fast "repeating" key input.
Also, I hope there is a tweak to the sensing area of each key to be smaller so that there will be less tendency to miss key other keys beside the intended key input.
Same problem
Having the EXACT same problem. Any solution?
My solution to this problem was that I went back to my sidekick LX 2009 until they fix this. I can't stand the way typing works on the HD2. I hope they released a fix for it soon or i'll just wait for the next major ROM update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697765
use the serach feature and the open your eyes people!!!!!!! Don't install it on a stock TMOUS rom and read all the posts before you install it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697765&page=1
Please note, I installed this on a stock ROM not a cooked one, worked a treat for me.
Search for "Ok.. touchscreen tweak v3.3 test version. Backspace fix test" (I'm not allowed to post link)
I used this tweak. Works like a charm Accurate keys, and almost no ghost typing.