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Hi,
I've just obtained an O2 XDA Exec on ebay that was someone's unwanted upgrade.
Within a few days of getting it, it seemed to be unstable and I decided on the CORPORATE re-INSTALL after reading on forums about bloatware and sluggish performance.
The problem is that it nolonger offers the corporate install on hard reset. I've tried several times and it simply goes through the routine of asking me to select 0 or X to go for the factory defaults or not, I choose appropriately and it then takes me through stuff like calibrating the screen and setting passwords etc. There is no mention of corporate install at all anymore, although I did see it once when I first got it and before I knew there was a pin number to allow the clean install.
To get around this nuisance, I have done a soft reset BEFORE it starts to customise the machine, and as far as I can tell, there is no O2 software installed. I think it runs faster too. After setting up, a screen message says, 'Customisation will begin in three seconds,' and at that point I pressed the reset button. When it restarted, it just came up without visible O2 software.
My question is this, have I managed to create a dodge which allows the corporate install? I'm on T-mobile pay as you go and have set up the 3 g settings manually.
What do you techie wizards think - do I need to do anything else.
PS....
Sorry if this seems like a greenhorn problem, but before I did the reinstall, I thought the thing was hanging up when carried it in my trouser pocket because sometimes it seemed dead and had to have a soft reset. Obviously, this made it useless as a phone. However, I now think it just had the backlight disabled by the on/off button being depressed accidentally for a couple of seconds while I was moving about, and it wasn't dead at all. I've noticed that when it does appear to be hung up with a black screen, if I depress the on / off button for a second or two, the screen comes on again. I wonder if this is possibly why some people complain that it keeps having to be reset? I was well displeased for about five days until I noticed that I could reverse the apparently dead machine by pressing and holding that button. I've replicated the dark screen and the solution repeatedly now by holding in that button.
Hi all.
Just got a JasJam about 2 weeks ago.
I am have a problem with the touch screen.
After about 5 mins of use the touch screen slowly gets more and more unresponsive untill it stops working.
If i remove the battery and let the phone sit for a couple of minutes then restart it the touch screen would start working again. But for only 5 mins.
Is this what everyone is refering to as problems with Screen Allignment or do i have a bigger problem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem.
Thanks
Travis
Personally i would do i hard reset and not install any additional software to see if you have the same problem. If yes, then its hardware problem and needs to be sent in for repair. If not, then install your programs back one by one to find the culprit.
S.K.
EDIT: Ensure you back up your data before performing a hard reset. You will lose all information stored on the phone.
Silent_Killa's advice is what I would do. Might try uninstalling apps one by one first??
This is NOT the screen alignment issue - I don't think. It depends if the screen responsiveness going off is actually at the point at which you tap the screen is not matching where the screen responds?? In other words it does respond but not at the location you tap. If this is happening then it is the SA issue, but if the screen does not respond in any way to taps then I doubt it's the SA problem - though could well be a digitizer issue.
I have not searched, but a week or two weeks ago an identical problem was posted by someone else.
If a hard reset does not cure this I would suggest a return as soon as possible.
Mike
Hey guys.
Yea i trided the whole hard rest thing and it still did the same problem.
The screen works fine but it is just the tapping part that gets screwed up.
All my hardware buttons work ok so i can still use the phone. I just can't use the touch screen.
Do you really thing an application could do this sort of thing.
The main ones i use are -
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
Spb Weather
Pocket Informant
Are these know to cause any problems.
I will try one more time and not install any apps.
Oh well 2 weeks old and it's off for repair.
Thanks for your help.
Saber_007 said:
Hey guys.
Yea i trided the whole hard rest thing and it still did the same problem.
The screen works fine but it is just the tapping part that gets screwed up.
All my hardware buttons work ok so i can still use the phone. I just can't use the touch screen.
Do you really thing an application could do this sort of thing.
The main ones i use are -
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
Spb Weather
Pocket Informant
Are these know to cause any problems.
I will try one more time and not install any apps.
Oh well 2 weeks old and it's off for repair.
Thanks for your help.
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BUT surely you tried it for an hour or two before installing anything!!?? And if working then only one application at a time?
No I don't think any of those apps. are the cause of the problem.
You still have not given full details about whether the screen is completely unresponsive or misaligned.
Either way if it's under warranty and hard reset does not cure it, get it returned cos this is not some little software fault.
Mike
Touch screen do not respond
mikechannon said:
I have not searched but a week or two weeks ago an identical problem was posted by someone else. If a hard reset does not cure this I would suggest a return as soon as possible.
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Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
dam said:
Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
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Hope you get it back working this time so you can start to enjoy it!!
Mike
dam said:
Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
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YEP that is exactly what mine does sometimes. After i open the keyboard the start button would start to pop open and close.
How did you get on. Did they tell you what the problem was.
Cheers.
mikechannon said:
BUT surely you tried it for an hour or two before installing anything!!?? And if working then only one application at a time?
No I don't think any of those apps. are the cause of the problem.
You still have not given full details about whether the screen is completely unresponsive or misaligned.
Either way if it's under warranty and hard reset does not cure it, get it returned cos this is not some little software fault.
Mike
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Sorry, about that.
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Screen has no problems with SA. After about 5 mins the screen slowly becomes more unresponsibe. IE i would have to tap the start button several times for it to work. When it finially pops open it just closes again almost straight away.
Not long after this the screen will become totally unresponsive, howver all hardware buttons will still work.
I am going to try a hard reset tonight.
I will let you konw.
Thanks again.
Well it is deffinitly my phone.
The screen wasn't working as per normal.
I hard reset my phone. When it rebooted and got to the "tap the screen to continue" bit. Guess what it didn't work.
I taped the screen several time but no go. The screen was dead.
I will have to send it back to the shop.
Cheers.
Travis
wiki update
I took the freedom to update the wiki on this issue :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems
well, my device was a second hand but the seller was as so kind as to take it back... nothing for chirstmas this year .
still... happy new year to everybody !
Saber_007 said:
Well it is deffinitly my phone.
The screen wasn't working as per normal.
I hard reset my phone. When it rebooted and got to the "tap the screen to continue" bit. Guess what it didn't work.
I taped the screen several time but no go. The screen was dead.
I will have to send it back to the shop.
Cheers.
Travis
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Fingers crossed you'll get a good one back. I think you were going to have to send this one back anyway.
Mike
JasJam screen responds to "ghost" taps!
The touch screen on my JasJam responds to continuous taps even when I don't tap it. When the keyboard is slid out, the start menu keeps on popping as if the start button on screen is being tapped. When keyboard is slid inside (device is closed), the device behaves as if the OK button (the "X" on top right) is being tapped continuously. Due to this, I can't open any program. (As soon as a program is opened, the "X" button on top right is automatically clicked and I reach Home screen again!
I uploaded a video about this mal-functioning of device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWAyRLQ01oo
I have already:
1. Alligned screen
2. Hard reset device (Left and Right softkeys + Reset button)
3. Updated ROM and hard reset device
but of no use! Please help.
Read that
it's a hw issue, had to get a replacement ...
Same problem
I seem to be having the exact same problem. When I first got it, I was able to use the phone for a couple of weeks, then all of the sudden, the screen stoped responding, but all the buttons worked. I did a hard reset, and it worked for a little while, then when bad again. At first I thought it was related to ActiveSync because it would always go bad immediately after syncing. However, even when I don't sync after a hard reset it eventually goes bad again. Today I just got it back from manufacturer - they couldn't reproduce the problem. It worked all day. Then I synced. Stupid me. Its not responding again.
There's no way out. Get a replacement.
I'm hoping that my replaced device doesn't have same issue.
same problem
I have the same exact problem. I sent back the Phone to Cingular / HTC, and they "repaired" it under warranty. I got the phone bac, and after a day's use, it went back to its old state.
Since I got this on ebay (BIG mistake), even though it was new, its having this problem.
So far i am not at ALL impressed with the 8525. Seems to me like its laden with hardware issues.
Can someone please offer insight as to what I can do?
Sorry to hear that! I had actually purchased i-mate JasJAM from Dubai. i-mate has just one service center in USA (PocketPCTechs in CA). They provided amazingly great customer service and replaced the main board. So far the problem hasn't repeated.
shassouneh said:
I have the same exact problem. I sent back the Phone to Cingular / HTC, and they "repaired" it under warranty. I got the phone bac, and after a day's use, it went back to its old state.
Since I got this on ebay (BIG mistake), even though it was new, its having this problem.
So far i am not at ALL impressed with the 8525. Seems to me like its laden with hardware issues.
Can someone please offer insight as to what I can do?
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Hey, I am having the same problem as well. Bought my phone on December 06 from eBay seller too. Big mistake as HTC will tell you sorry your warranty is void if you did not purchase the device from the carrier (even though it was new.) I am curious how you were able to get it repaired under warranty since you too bought yours from a third party.
I did the credit card trick and it worked flawlessly for about two months and just yesterday I am back to the same problem. After today doing the credit card trick numerous times I finally got the touch screen working now but who knows for how long this time.
BTW my serial number is in the HT642Fxxxxxx if anyone else that has this problem wants to compare and post theirs.
Facing the same problems...
... I've been thinking about repalcing the display and the touchscreen. But now, considering that it is a HW issue, I can only replace these two things. If the bug is in the module above the screen (statur leds and camera) or related to the wireing at the back of the screen, it won't get rid of the problem. On the other hand, if it is a problem with the screen getting too hot, then I'm on the right track...
Has anyone tried this yet?
I'll try to call HTC on monday, maybe they know where the bug is.
My Wizard is brand new first off and I haven't done anything to it but install the t-mobile cabs, a spb program, and a few other random things.
Problem (It just started doing this): I can align the screen and it will stay right and aligned for a few minutes but then when i write on it the alignment will eventually veer off on the right side just a little bit. When I pick it up at first normally it writes fine and then it starts acting crazy, sometimes it will write somewhere completely different than where the pen is on the screen, or when I go to press a button it will press the one under or over (mis-aligned). I can even write on the screen and the cursor will go completely crazy and all over the place when I'm trying to draw a straight line. I searched for firmware updates and topics on the issue and didn't find anything.
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks
I had a iPAQ that started doing this after a few weeks. I had to send it in for a replacement. Call T-Mobile about it.
My 8125 (wizard) does this every once in a while. If I let it sit for about a minute then it seems fine. I think it is pbar program that is doing it. Just haven't removed it yet to find out.
You might want to do a hard reset to bring it back to the way it was when you got it and use it for a few days to see if that does it.
Yeah I have actually read up on the topic now and it's a known issue.
It's mostly a hardware issue, so I've narrowed it down to the screen being a little bent. Just a tad.
When you take your finger and rub it over where it's bent or just across the screen in general sometimes it fixes this error. That's about the best fix i've found yet that actually works.
This is driving me nuts too
Hi!
I have a Cingular 8125. Bought it in Nov 2006.
I have been facing a problem with the alignment as well since the past week.
1) Whenever I try to tap the target, nothing happens. I have to do a soft reset to start using the phone again.
2) Have hard reset the phone twice in the past week, but the problem still persists.
3) If I am adding a new contact, wherever I press an alphabet, the 4th or 5th key to the left of what I press gets displayed.
If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.
Fix Screen alignment
Hi,
It happens to my 8125 each time I turn it on. The only way that I could solve the problem is disassembling the unit and remove the front cover. Clean the borders of the touch screen and remove any particle. It solved the problem.
About a week ago I suddenly started having some issues with the touch response on my HD2, but only when doing certain tasks. Whenever I try to shut down the phone, I press the power button and then the menu pops up giving me a few different options, but the screen is completely unresponsive to anything I touch. Also, the slide to unlock doesn't operate about half the time, so I'm constantly hitting the lock button & trying again. I haven't had any issues with touch while doing any other tasks. I've also tried several different ROMs, including going back to the stock ROM. I've read about several devices with bad digitizers, but this seems to be more specific than that. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
My brother's phone had the exact same issue. We both got our HD2's on the same day in May as part of the Buy One Get One Free deal. Since then, he has had numerous freezing issues with his phone. My phone on the other hand, seldomly suffered from those issues. A week or so ago he told me that he couldn't unlock his phone sometimes, and that he had to keep cycling the screen on and off to finally make the screen respond to touch input. So, after playing with it for a few minutes I noticed the screen became completely unresponsive when attempting to power off the phone. After messing with it for a while, the screen would not respond on any screen at all. So, I called T-Mobile today, and within 5 minutes they offered to send out a Warranty Replacement. Absolutely no hassle at all.
Thanks for the reply. I guess I should give that a try.
what's up ???
is it general problem ???????
my device will arrive next week so will it have the same problem
so depressed ... it is very nice device to have but a screen problem make it realy bad .....
Hey my lovely XDA-ers, I'm really hoping for some magic here...
Yesterday my HD2 digitizer just stopped working... the Touchscreen will not respond to any inputs. It was bitterly cold outside so I was half hoping that an overnight stay in a warm room would help, but no avail...
The thing is, on one in every 5 restarts, I get a small amount of life from it. One one in 15 restarts, I get full use. So there's still life in there.
I could understand if it broke because I dropped the phone/squashed it, but at the time I was just playing Robo Defence, completely normal use, when all of a sudden it stopped responding.
I've uploaded a video, which shows how, occasionally, the bottom fifth of the screen works. However, as shown, when I'm using the top half of the screen, the digitizer appears to be receiving input from the bottom of the screen, as though I'm trying to perform a multi-touch action. For this reason I'm hoping there still be some way to rescue the phone without an expensive repair job. I bought it in March from XDA Marketplace, and it's served me faithfully since, but because of that I do not think I have the manufacturer's guarentee, or insurance
I've hard-reset, I've reflashed my ROM, I've tried in both WM and Android (my usual OS at the moment), I've reflashed over WM ROMs, and the problem stays the same... (also read all related threads!)
Sorry for inverted nature of vid!
So does anyone have any suggestions to try? Otherwise I might go through a £130 repair service on htcrepairs.co.uk - they do not show up on a forum search so I was wondering if anyone had used their service before?
Thanks all, appreciate any ideas.
Edd
Very odd indeed. I don't have a solution for your problem, but a suggestion. It is a long shot, but might help.
Whenever i had similar problems with my Wizard (i know, kind of old but one of the best older devices every made by HTC), i opened it and cleaned it from the inside and checked all the connections of keyboard, touchscreen, etc. to the mainboard. Sometimes it helped...
In the end, if you buy the replacement kit, you anyway have to open the HD2, so why not try this in prior to buying the kit...
A lot of people seem to have this problem. There's a lot of information on it here. Do a search. But the short answer is its a hardware problem. If your phone is still under warranty send it back. I think HTC will fix it for free if It's less than a year old. But try your carrier first.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
BAD NEWS...
i had EXACTLY this happen to me. eventually it totally stopped responding. Only option is to replace the digitizer.
GOOD NEWS..
After a month of searching, I found a really good guy to do it. www.iexpertstudio.com . The owner is VINCE. you can email him on his site. He charged $110 including mailing it back to me. He replaced the LCD and digitizer and sent it back. All works perfectly now.
I see you are in the UK so dont know if it makes sense to send it to the US. Alternative is to go on ebay and buy the screen/digitizer and replace it yourself.
(BTW normally i would have chucked the device, but even after 1 year I still dont think there is as versatile a device as the HD2. Had the DHD been 3G useable in the US I would have bought one.)
Thanks for the feedback guys, I've been doing some investigation my end (and you're right, there are similar threads on here, but none which had a "half-screen working" problem.)
I've narrowed the culprit down to my "Back" button. It's somehow exerting pressure on the screen, leading to either a non-responsive digitizer or an input at the bottom of the screen.
I might add this to an entry in the "ANDROID KILLS YOUR BUTTONS" thread
My choice is to live manually with it, or get the company mentioned in the first post to give it a good clean, but whether it's worth £80 just yet is a question for me.
Anyway, thanks for your input, guess this thread will close, but to any readers in future, if your screen seems to die, see if it's pressure on the screen caused by the buttons!
I can totally support your reasoning.
I haven't had any problems whatsoever with the touchscreen in almost a year of honoured career of this phone, while this morning I was trying to unlock it with no success (nothing special happened, I even used it 10 minutes this morning already). At first I thought it was the usual "sleepy" behaviour of the screen right after waking up, butafter sliding down the hdmini style unlocker at least 10 times with no effect I really started freaking out :O
I have longpress endkey set on instant reboot, and after that it seemed working... just not for too long.
To cut to the chase, what in my opinion supports your idea of hardware buttons interfering is:
sometimes, as I have LMT installed, with the tap&hold option enabled, swiping with just one finger triggered double swype instead (as if the screen detected a second, firm press on the screen elsewhere even if I sure as heck was swyping with one finger)
using mymobiler didn't work as well; if it was a hardware touchscreen problem, mymobiler should work, as it simulates touches, so it will just do its job even if the touchscreen is totally dead... while, IF the hardware touchscreen detected a firm press somewhere, mymobiler wasn't able to actively simulate another press
repeatedly pressing on the end key (which seems to be the culprit in my case) apparently solves the problem, as I can use the touchscreen again; also, a prolonged cycle of hibernating with end key, waking with end key, swyping down the hdmini lock (repeat at libitum) seemed to work, as if I dislodged something by activating the button so often
What I don't understand anyway is: HOW can a button pressing on the digitizer be exerting a touch action? If this was a resistive screen, I'd understand, but it's capacitive, and not even capacitive pens are so good as fingers in activating the touch. The buttons are just plastic with a metal contact underneath, and this metal contact shoudl by no means be anywhere near the digitizer.
Bah.
I know I have 2 years warranty on this device, but being far from my phone during the warranty processing gives me the creeps, so I'll just go on using it and pray this to be the defaillance of one sunday morning not to be seen again... after several soft resets (and fantasizing about a new rom flash, which I need anyway for other reasons) the problem seems to have settled by delicately bashing on the end key. The unlock slider is responsive after every wake up now... FOR now.
Praying...
My screen also died. So the only thing I have to do is press on the end key for a couple of times to make it work again?
lol, that's ONE possibility.
Just saying, in my case it worked, and still does since it happened once more this evening, so it's definitely got something to do with the hardware keys messing around (and hopefully dislodging themself for good, or I'll have to send it back for servicing), anyway in your case it could also be a dead digitizer, so no go
let's put all this about touch screen in 1 sticky thread pls.
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
smeddy said:
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
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ditto.
Actually, I don't like having paid good money for a defective phone, but being without HD2 for up to a couple of weeks to one month (maybe? have no idea how fast HTC servicing is) is troublesome. I may buy for a deal a blue angel as a spare, yet, no GPS...
The most problematic event is if you get the "stuck" screen during a call.
In my case, it's the end key that messes it up; if the screen's dead, pressing twice the end key, firmly enough (once for screen off, then again for screen back on) wakes up the screen, and apparently, during a ringing incoming call, you can press the hardware end key without rejecting it, so it's a viable option (not taking into consideration the fact that trying to wake up the screen takes time, and the caller may give up after a while if you're not fast enough).
But if for any reason the screen gets stuck while the call is connected, I am stuck too, as to wake it up I should press the end key thus hanging on the other party.
Sad story.
EDIT: forget what I wrote, pressing end key while phone is ringing WILL reject the call. I tried it before during a real incoming call and apparently it didn't do it, but now it just did.
I also have a HD with a dead screen....
Only thing here is I have sent it back twice already to TelSuck here in Australia only to have it returned after the tech has wiped it over and reflashed it for me... What helpful little imps they are!
Code:
http://www.youtube.com/v/T6ssqmpRIB0
Its drivin me nuts sending it away for 3 weeks at a time to have someone with just enough grey matter to be able to wield a screwdriver tell me nothing is wrong.
Happy to try any suggestions!
@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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I will try that - it seems to happen more frequently when plugged in and charging, and now more buttons seem to be the cause/fix (e.g. now the home-button, or when I am on home-screens the phone will swipe "left", whereas before it would swipe "right". I'll keep playing.
I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
I'm having same trouble now whit my phone except problems started mouth ago. After some period I again power up my phone and suddenly everything worked perfectly. Unfortunately this last only for two days and then exactly same problems happened, partially function screen.
As far as I know only good solution is replacing digitizer... I already ordered one for me.
exactly the same problem for me.. I sent it back with warranty yesterday
smeddy said:
I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
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Ditto.
Actually, my warranty lasts two years, which means until 2012, anyway I cannot stand risking to lose calls because the screen dies on me in the wrong moment, and the only way to wake it up is pressing the endkey (which by the way is the only "cure", and apparently never the cause).
I will be uploading a video on youtube regarding this, also to show it to the guys at the HTC support who will be asking me to hard reset and reflash until annoyed to death (as if that will solve anything)
Bump
This is the video that I just uploaded to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-PNYwpYeI
EDIT: One day after, the problem has become way more frequent, 1 out of three times I wake up the phone, diugitizer is dead and I need the " on the end key to make it work
Uploaded another video on youtube with problem showing on vanilla lockscreen so HTC support doesn't try and tell me it's CHT lockscreen's fault
Last bump.
Screen has ben promoted from "hardware key problem" to "permanent death".
Now I can use the phone with mymobiler, but I can't anymore with touch, I seem to not be able even to wake it up even by pressing on end key
Re-flashing last official rom upgrade now to see if anything changes... yeah,sure
Ouch - good luck, hope mine doesn't go that way...