Hey,
I'm using an old iPaq as sort of a poor-mans NAS (yeah, I know).
Problem is, the wifi adapter goes to sleep after maybe an hour or so of inactivity.
Can anyone think of a utility that will run on a wm2003 device and connect to something on the internet automatically, on a regular basis?
I was thinking like, get a weather applet or something, but none that I found would connect automatically.
It doesn't have to be anything special. As long as it is actively using the internet on a regular basis. That'll keep the router from disconnecting.
guardianfox said:
Can anyone think of a utility that will run on a wm2003 device and connect to something on the internet automatically, on a regular basis?
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How about pointing IE at a web page that uses javascript to automatically reload itself?
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Anyways to get wake on LAN going via my JAMin, whilst I am away from home ie outside my Wi-Fi connection, Ive seen a few programs around, but they dont seem to want to use my GPRS, unless im just being a clodd of course....? :roll: Any Ideas?
Cheers
Edit: Sorry should be more specific, have tried software called WOL, Wake on PocketPC, Pcoket Lan, and vxUtil. Not in any great depth yet, but still anyone have any experience with this?
wehopeuchoke said:
..., but they dont seem to want to use my GPRS, unless im just being a clodd of course....? :roll: Any Ideas?
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Try to manually establish the data connection before using depicus Wake On Pocket PC (e.g. by opening Opera browser...).
Hey,
I have a seemingly simple problem. I use POP email and I want to check for emails regularly but at home and work I can stay connected to a WiFi network.
I know with Skype I can set the program to use WiFi if available else 3G. Does anyone know if this can be done at a system level so for instance that email and any other apps needing a connection will follow this protocol, please?
Thanks.
Since i do not want to create a new thread (for 2 posts maximum) i will ask here: my phone shows that is connected with the wi-fi (usr9108 router--> access point) BUT when i am trying to sign in to msn, skype open a page in I.E nothing happens, it's like i am not connected to the net.
MetalMushroom said:
Hey,
I have a seemingly simple problem. I use POP email and I want to check for emails regularly but at home and work I can stay connected to a WiFi network.
I know with Skype I can set the program to use WiFi if available else 3G. Does anyone know if this can be done at a system level so for instance that email and any other apps needing a connection will follow this protocol, please?
Thanks.
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Most applications will use whatever connection is already on. In your case if you are connected via WiFi then your email will use that connection, if not then it will try to connect by the default GPRS/3G connection setting. I do this all the time.
Okay, yeah sorry.
To clarify I think what I really want is to let the device go into sleep mode and attempt to create a WiFi connection before it attempts to create a 3G data connection.
Other than that, purchasing a cradle and leaving the device in alert mode would be the way forward would it?
Is there a way for WiFi to remain on even if the device is in Sleep mode?
Thanks again.
MetalMushroom said:
Okay, yeah sorry.
To clarify I think what I really want is to let the device go into sleep mode and attempt to create a WiFi connection before it attempts to create a 3G data connection.
Other than that, purchasing a cradle and leaving the device in alert mode would be the way forward would it?
Is there a way for WiFi to remain on even if the device is in Sleep mode?
Thanks again.
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Oh I see you what you mean. Why not try this schedule an event to wake the device and so long as it was connected to a wireless AP when it went to sleep it will try to reconnect when it wakes then schedule another event after a suitable pause to allow it to find and connect to AP to sync email.
Alternatively try SKSchema or MortScript which are both macro tools to do the above.
Cheers Jazza. Not sure how to 'schedule' an event but I'll do some research into 'SKSchema or MortScript' to see how I can use them.
Thanks for your help.
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
Even when its connected to my wireless LAN (which it does with no problems at all - much better than my old Wizzard), if I launch Explorer it automatically makes a GPRS connection. The only way to force it to use the Wifi seems to be to turn the Phone off in the comm manager - which then means I can't receive any calls.
I can't find any setting that dicates the network hierachy i.e. that says if there is a Wireless LAN connection then don't bother with GPRS, or if there isn't, then use GPRS.
I seem to recall there was something similar on desktop Windoze where you could have it automatically use a dial up connection if there was no LAN available.
Can anyone help?
Iain.m said:
When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
Even when its connected to my wireless LAN (which it does with no problems at all - much better than my old Wizzard), if I launch Explorer it automatically makes a GPRS connection. The only way to force it to use the Wifi seems to be to turn the Phone off in the comm manager - which then means I can't receive any calls.
I can't find any setting that dicates the network hierachy i.e. that says if there is a Wireless LAN connection then don't bother with GPRS, or if there isn't, then use GPRS.
I seem to recall there was something similar on desktop Windoze where you could have it automatically use a dial up connection if there was no LAN available.
Can anyone help?
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I'm now getting the same thing using Emoze - the thing is sitting here connected to the Wifi & will sync mail & contacts etc over the wifi quite happily - but as soon as I try & send mail from the handheld it starts up not one but two GPRS connections (!) Much the same as if I try & get a web page up - it automatically goes to GPRS as its default route to the internet despite that fact that its already connected via wifi & the only way to stop this behaviour seems to be to switch the phone off in Comm Manager.
Seems to be something inherrantly odd about the way the Tytn 2 is deciding what network connection is available & which it should use. It looks like it needs a little control application to sit between the IP stack & the hardware so that when a request comes it can be routed according to user preference - i.e. Use WIfi if available, Only use GPRS etc The Wifi doesn't seem to fire up a connection when it feels like it - only the GPRS. Do all the HTC devices with WIfi behave this way?
In the meantime, does anyone know of a simple way to turn off/disable GPRS without disabling the phone?
WHile I have plenty of GPRS data allowance in my package when I'm in the house at my desk (or anywhere else I can get a wifi connection) I'd rather it just used the Wifi to sync itself or if I decided call up a web page.
Besides, it interferes with the hi-fi speakers in my study with that annoying buzzing noise everytime the GPRS gets busy.
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Hi guys,
I use 3 different wifi networks during the course of a day, well 2 a day, 3 through out the week probably. Home/Work/Friends house
I have a very small data package (5mb) so i am very choosy about when I use my data connection!
Anyways, did some testing.
I already know that if I have no wifi, no data connection on, then I try and start outlook or Internet Explorer, then my data connection starts up (as it should)
now if i have my data connection on, then i turn on wifi on the phone, the wifi connection takes over and the data connection is not being used, even though it's on.
I also have no problems with when wifi is on and data is off, and if i goto outlook or IE, that gprs decides to go on. this does not happen tome (unless for some strange reason wifi cuts out, gprs tries to take over)
So i dont know if its something with your settings or not, maybe your phone goes to sleep and wifi turns off then gprs takes over, or i could be misunderstanding your question, because now that I think about it, perhaps you are asking something like..
- at home no wifi or data connection is active at that moment
- you navigate to a page in IE and instead of gprs turning on, wifi turns on/scans for lan and uses that
Yeah, that's probably waht you are asking.. haha yahoo for long winded useless post
If you figure it out, i want to know! lol
Iain.m said:
I'm now getting the same thing using Emoze - the thing is sitting here connected to the Wifi & will sync mail & contacts etc over the wifi quite happily - but as soon as I try & send mail from the handheld it starts up not one but two GPRS connections (!) Much the same as if I try & get a web page up - it automatically goes to GPRS as its default route to the internet despite that fact that its already connected via wifi & the only way to stop this behaviour seems to be to switch the phone off in Comm Manager.
Seems to be something inherrantly odd about the way the Tytn 2 is deciding what network connection is available & which it should use. It looks like it needs a little control application to sit between the IP stack & the hardware so that when a request comes it can be routed according to user preference - i.e. Use WIfi if available, Only use GPRS etc The Wifi doesn't seem to fire up a connection when it feels like it - only the GPRS. Do all the HTC devices with WIfi behave this way?
In the meantime, does anyone know of a simple way to turn off/disable GPRS without disabling the phone?
WHile I have plenty of GPRS data allowance in my package when I'm in the house at my desk (or anywhere else I can get a wifi connection) I'd rather it just used the Wifi to sync itself or if I decided call up a web page.
Besides, it interferes with the hi-fi speakers in my study with that annoying buzzing noise everytime the GPRS gets busy.
I.
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You should be able to use the comm manager to turn off the data connection, but as for keeping it off permanently, until you decide you want it to be even allowed to be active again maybe you can try this, it should disable your connection until you see fit.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
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You should be able to use the comm manager to turn off the data connection, but as for keeping it off permanently, until you decide you want it to be even allowed to be active again maybe you can try this, it should disable your connection until you see fit.
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
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Great little utility , thanks very much for pointing that out - it at least allows me to do what I want manually - i.e. use my wifi without having to turn the phone off.
Although I know you can disconnect GPRS from the Comm manager, it also doesn't seem to have an idle time out so once an application (like Emoze) has started it up it keeps running in the background. Also, as soon as you turn it off, inevitably Emoze turns it straight back on! The NoData application gives much more control so thanks for that.
I do go abroad reasonably often so also happy to be able to use it for its primary purpose of disabling GPRS whilst roaming to avoid silly charges
It would be great if HTC could build a bit more intelligence and control into the network side of these things though.
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You may want to look into Schaps Advanced Config or KaiserTweak for wifi/gprs settings.
You can set timers and disconnects, etc, with those applications.
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When I'm in the house (and assuming I've got the wifi switched on on the Tytn 2), how do I get it to use the Wifi to access the Web as a first option?
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The Good News: I fixed this behavior on the phone w/o any 3rd-party utilities, etc.
The Bad News: I'm not 100% sure how. :-/ My apologies. Here is what I think did it:
Make sure your browser is closed and you have no open data connections.
1- Open the Wireless Manager and make sure "WLAN" is on and "Data Connection" is off.
2- Go to Start>Settings and choose the "Connections" tab along the bottom.
3- Open "Wireless LAN," choose your home wireless network, and make sure you're actively connected to it (should see a signal quality meter, device network settings, etc).
4- Close "Wireless LAN" and while "Settings" is still open and on the "Connections" tab, open "Wi-Fi." Your list of known Wi-Fi networks should be showing: make sure your home network says "connected."
5- Close everything back out to your "Today" screen.
When my Tilt is set this way -- and actively connected to my WLAN -- the Wireless Manager grays out "Data Connections" and doesn't even respond if I tap the icon. IE automatically uses my WLAN, although it won't connect to some of its pre-loaded favs b/c, I think, they're on WAP servers and the Wi-Fi/NAT router assigns/negotiates TCP/IP protocols for your phone.
I think now I accomplish all the above by simply opening the keyboard and pressing the FN/Wi-Fi key.
FYI -- In truth, I solved this problem by installing Opera Mobile and setting it as my default browser. Opera Mobile is a full browser, i.e. doesn't use WAP.
Hope this helps. If not, sorry for this 5 minutes of your life you'll never get back. :-/
gT
I have been using a dialing CDMA cell over bluetooth for internet access from BlackStone.
The connection goes dormant after 10 sec inactivity. Each wake up from dormancy is charged a new call
Is there any app (preferably freeware) that constantly pings a public server say yahoo.com in background to keep the connection Alive?
crajee said:
I have been using a dialing CDMA cell over bluetooth for internet access from BlackStone.
The connection goes dormant after 10 sec inactivity. Each wake up from dormancy is charged a new call
Is there any app (preferably freeware) that constantly pings a public server say yahoo.com in background to keep the connection Alive?
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HD Tweak has this ability just download and install and check what you want your phone to do I believe it has the option to remain connected when phone sleeps
Thanks for that ... I already have it.
Here the problem is not HD going to sleep but the external phone data connection... So I need to ping it repeatedly. I do on desktop with the ping command. (and earlier in my palm PDA by a IM client for Jabber).
Now on PPC I am lost. I tried an app called GPRS keep alive for WM5 but doesn't seem to work well on WM6 of THD.
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HD Tweak has this ability just download and install and check what you want your phone to do I believe it has the option to remain connected when phone sleeps
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Do you found a solution for the disconnect problem? At the moment I use "hrping -t -s 5000 google.de" at my desktop or vxUtils directly on the TouchHD.
vxUtils unfortunately makes the device so slow/unresponsive as to be useless. (looks like some incompatibility with the graphics processing of HD becuse CPU utilisation is not high).So still looking for a useable solution.
Hopefully some one writes a simple pinging utility... My service provider is minting money by data calls every 20-30 sec!!
I have an unlocked HD2 with Vodafone Internet access.
As long as I use my phone standalone I can browse the Web just fine.
But as soon as I activate WiFi Router or try to establish a BT PAN with my PC, my GPRS Internet goes down and thus my PC can't get onto the Internet eitherm.
Anyone can help with this one?
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so re enable gprs connection in the data manager, then
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But it is enabled (all the time). Its just that any browser complains that it can't find the server - until I break the connection to the PC and then it all works again.
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Hi,
Could it be that the phone is preventing this as network operators charge extra for using the phone as a modem (tethering)?
I've not got my phone yet but I'm guessing there will be something to prevent you doing this!
Cheers,
Gavin
Gavinbat said:
Hi,
Could it be that the phone is preventing this as network operators charge extra for using the phone as a modem (tethering)?
I've not got my phone yet but I'm guessing there will be something to prevent you doing this!
Cheers,
Gavin
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You are probably right. I tested the router and it works perfectly, so it's not a hardware or a software problem.
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You are probably right. I tested the router and it works perfectly, so it's not a hardware or a software problem.
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Are you folks saying that the phone service provider can actually "sense" if my phone is in "modem mode" and as a result of that drop the Internet connection?
Because I found that the same thing happens if I connect the phone via USB cable to a PC and activate "Internet Sharing via USB".
Its a real pain in the rear, because many web pages just won't load right w/o areal PC browser.
Opera Mobile truly sucks as soon as you have more than 3 tabs open, and Fennec doesn't even display my soft keyboard.
NetFront sometimes works and then it doesn't and then it works again.
And the dreaded Internet Explorer often simply TERMINATES w/o any reason as soon as I switch to another application. Swuuush and its gone and I have to start from scratch again and just keep watching and watching that progress bar crawl on.
I either need a REAL web browser (don't think there is one for Windows Mobile) or to find a way how to activate the router function w/o loosing my Internet connection in the process.
Is your connection dropped as soon as you connect your HD2 to your PC or after you send a first request from the PC browser?
I don't see how your provider could "sense" ,as you said, that your phone is in modem mode (unless they cooked a ROM that does it )
But, when your browser sends a request, along with the page you are requesting, it sends its "user agent" (it identifies itself as IE, Firefox, Opera or whatever browser you're using on your PC) This can be trapped by your provider, who, in turn, could decide to drop the connection, I guess.
If it's what's happening, a possible workaround would be to install on your PC a plugin that will change the "user agent" and impersonate a phone.
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Is your connection dropped as soon as you connect your HD2 to your PC or after you send a first request from the PC browser?
I don't see how your provider could "sense" ,as you said, that your phone is in modem mode (unless they cooked a ROM that does it )
But, when your browser sends a request, along with the page you are requesting, it sends its "user agent" (it identifies itself as IE, Firefox, Opera or whatever browser you're using on your PC) This can be trapped by your provider, who, in turn, could decide to drop the connection, I guess.
If it's what's happening, a possible workaround would be to install on your PC a plugin that will change the "user agent" and impersonate a phone.
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The connection goes stone dead as soon as the HD2 has established a (network) connection with the PC, be it via USB, Bluetooth or WiFi.
It happens even when I specifically choose the "Share Internet (use Phone as Modem)" setting.
And as soon as I break the connection with my PC, I can browse the web on the phone again.
For me this is real problem, as there are many web site I need to visit which are just to complex to view on the HD2.
I have a similar problem. When I use my HD 2 as a router and connect my laptop to it, the internet connection sucks hard. Videos on YouTube are loading for ages, web pages are loading very long and eventually I get a connection timeout or a server not found message. Then after some minutes it just works fine again and pages are loading very fast, but only for a brief moment.
I am sure that this is not a provider (I got o2) problem, cause when I put my sim card in my old nokia n95 and use it as a router (I use joikuspot for this), everything works like a charm! I get full HDSPA, everything is loading very fast without any disconnects or something like that. So it has to be a hardware problem or a winmo problem I guess!
This is really annoying!
pharao said:
The connection goes stone dead as soon as the HD2 has established a (network) connection with the PC, be it via USB, Bluetooth or WiFi.
It happens even when I specifically choose the "Share Internet (use Phone as Modem)" setting.
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I would expect that to happen, because using the phone as a modem the phone will wait for the computer to issue the dial command.
using the wifirouter the phone instigates the dial so the computer just gets handed the connection.