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Would someone please tell me how to get rid of this new autocomplete, it's really slowing me down...I already tried turning off Word Completion in Settings -> Input.
I haven't seen that type of auto-complete before, but it looks rather good. What SIP are you using? Is it a new function in the latest ROM's or have you added a third party SIP?
Came with my Sprint Touch. It shows up whenever I use the built in block recognizer. Normally I wouldn't mind since it can be helpful for those really long words, but this one really really slows down my Touch and causes my strokes to be recognized incorrectly
Seemed to have figured it out, I just had to disable the Wordcompletion keys under HKLM\Software\Tegic
grahamkdt said:
I haven't seen that type of auto-complete before, but it looks rather good. What SIP are you using? Is it a new function in the latest ROM's or have you added a third party SIP?
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It also looks like this is provided by the new fullscreen keyboard SIP added to the Sprint Touch
comes in the new rom.. i cant find anyway to off it too..
I installed the new Touch Keyboard and Touch Keypad found in these pages (somewhere ?? sorry not sure...) and this now appears on the default keyboard.
Totally agree: it sucks big time. I couldn't find a way to turn it off also, so I eventually flash a rom without it
hi EliteXen,
could you be more specific which reg key under
HKLM\Software\Tegic
you changed to disable the autocomplete? thanks.
To turn off the XT9 autocomplete for non-Touch keyboards:
Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0"
However, to turn it off within a Touch keyboard I think you need to go to "Options" for the keyboard --> XT9 Settings --> uncheck everything...
Can't use "Word Completion" on the Touch?? (Only XT9??)
Turned off XT9 as above but apparently the normal Windows Mobile "Word Completion" doesn't work??
Is it possible to use the normal "Word Completion" or is that functionality not included since they included XT9?
(I actually think XT9 does better prediction that "Word Completion" but XT9 prevents various 3rd-party keyboards/SIPs from working ...)
Here's some info: installed the dictionary editor from http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-word-completion-dictionary-editor-v1-3-2342-39581.html and it showed no entries in the system. Added a couple entries and saved them to the main dictionary so there are entries now, but they still aren't popping up as suggestions
What would be really great is if XT9 can be enabled and NOT interfere with 3rd-party SIPs. (For me, it prevents the "macros" function in MessagEase from working...) Otherwise, would love to be able to re-enable the Windows Mobile "Word Completion" if anyone knows how...
One of my problems (mostly) fixed
Apparently I'll just be sitting around posting repeatedly to this thread all day
Okay, here's something that can help if you are having trouble with XT9 interfering with a 3rd party SIP but you want to KEEP XT9's autocompletion rather than have no autocompletion at all...
The below fix made it possible for MessagEase macros to work along with XT9 being activated, although it looks a bit funky when MessagEase macros are being expanded (as the macro is being typed by MessagEase, XT9 is trapping every character and making new guesses, and then it remembers the macro as a new "autocomplete" phrase).
So here's how to make MessagEase and XT9 work together:
1) DON'T do the registry change described earlier (HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip) --> if that entry was already changed to 0, change it back to 1 because we want it active again...and if you make a registry change then you'll have to turn the device off/back on and reboot as usual)
2) from the keyboard selector (the up arrow on lower right of screen), select "Options"-->then select "Touch Keyboard" and tap "Options" button
3) click "XT9 Settings" button --> uncheck everything EXCEPT "Word Completion"
4) click "Ok" a bunch of times
Now MessagEase macros work although XT9 is try to trap every character MessagEase is writing...
[[One note: I *love* MessagEase but haven't used the macros in a long time as there was a bug that started happening due to the "macros" function (I called it Mad WM5 Syndrome: everything started going crazy and you had to reboot). So Exideas made a MessagEase "Lite" version without macro functionality that is very stable...They tried to fix the non-"Lite" version but the last one I tried (long ago) still caused the problem on a PPC-6700...So now I'm trying the non-"Lite" version again, hoping the macro function will work without causing "Mad WM5 Syndrome"...I will post back if the mad syndrome returns!]]
Aaron
Well unfortunately I don't have much to add, but since you're the only one posting on this thread I thought I'd echo your desires for the standard windows word completion. I like to use the keypad at times and xt9 works just fine for that, but when I'm using my hardware keyboard I'm unable to get word completion back. I miss it!
GOod job with the work-around mentioned in your last post. I think I'd prefer the normal word completion to xt9's though, so hopefully someone can figure out a way to to limit xt9's "influence" to only those times that you're using the touch keypads.
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So now I'm trying the non-"Lite" version again, hoping the macro function will work without causing "Mad WM5 Syndrome"...I will post back if the mad syndrome returns!]]
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Unfortunately, "Mad WM5 Syndrome" has become "Mad WM6 Syndrome" with the non-LITE version of MessagEase on my HTC Touch. So I'm back to using the LITE version of MessagEase without macros However, it's great using MessagEase on the Touch because you can slide right off the keyboard as there's no "ledge" between the screen and the rest of the device
Hi all!
I bought the Touch Dual last week and since then have been doing tens of installs/uninstalls to check what apps are out there etc (AE Button Plus was one of them).
I remember when i got it I could enter both TEXT and numbers from the sliding out number pad. I used the *XT9 button to differentiate between ABC, abc, XT9 - text input methods.
Now pressing the *XT9 buttons doesnt do anything anywhere - all i can enter with my kaypad are corresponding numbers.
I must have removed/unchecked something in the settings, but what?
Thanks in advance!
callix
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Hi all!
I bought the Touch Dual last week and since then have been doing tens of installs/uninstalls to check what apps are out there etc (AE Button Plus was one of them).
I remember when i got it I could enter both TEXT and numbers from the sliding out number pad. I used the *XT9 button to differentiate between ABC, abc, XT9 - text input methods.
Now pressing the *XT9 buttons doesnt do anything anywhere - all i can enter with my kaypad are corresponding numbers.
I must have removed/unchecked something in the settings, but what?
Thanks in advance!
callix
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Yes!! I too had that problem... It seems that after installing about 5 apps, this will happen. I hard-resetted about 5 times now and i still dont know what exactly causes this trouble
I have the same problem too.. I've posted it under this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=384160
Does anyone know how to solve it?
Solved
Fixed it. The alphabetical input from the hardware 16-keyboard is back in SMS/Word Mobile/Texting programs!!
Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
This makes the hardware *xT9 button allow to switch between ABC, abc, #12, T9.
PS: Im using this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335). The problem occured after I was using the above ROM for a while, and it was fixed without reflashing anything.
Hope this helps!
Callix
is there like a registry fix for this problem instead of flashing an entire rom?
@sebastlim
there's no need to reflash anything. with my Niki Project 6.1 ROM, when the problem started, i just went to Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
Callix
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@sebastlim
there's no need to reflash anything. with my Niki Project 6.1 ROM, when the problem started, i just went to Just go to Start > Programs > PDA Settings > ROM Settings > Enable T9.
Callix
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Yes, but that options is only available on that rom, others dont have it
And even doing that doesnt change anything on my niki rom.
Until I turned it off and back on again. D'oh!
Problem with physical slide out keyboard and soft input panel keyboards
I have a 20 key version touch dual and had this problem as well - and unlike the other posts, I had not installed any additional apps. The WM 6.1 version CE OS 5.2.19716.1.1.0.
Here is what is happenening:
1. The slide out physical keyboard will type only the numbers when the numeric keys are pressed. The alphabet keys on the sides q/w, a/s, z/x, o/p, ,/l etc only input the first letter and dont cycle on to the second letter [eg only q comes up - you cannot bring on w] and the xt9 stops functioning. Pressing the alt or sym/*/xt9 key does nothing other than typing up *.
2. The two soft input panel keyboards (touch keyboard 20 and touch keypad 12) revert to a qwerty keyboard and dont switch to a xt9 mode.
3. I tried using the Start-->Programs-->PDA Settings-->>check T9 option. It works but erratically. Often, it reverts back when the PDA is turned off and on [not soft reset]. When I go back to PDA settings and look, the T9 option is checked and yet the behaviour was non T9. I checked off and checked on T9 -->> works again. Sliding out the physical keypad seems to preserve the xt9 most of the time. Erratic..
I will try to install the fix from HTC
the difinite solution
Check whether PCM keyboard is installed and if yes, uninstall it. The problem will be solved!
If you install the appropriate version of EzInput (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281 ) it should re-enable your hardware keys.
Good luck!
Hi,
Just installed the Bepe ROM (19209.1.0.2).
Yesterday and today was working fine. Now I have a weird problem (bug?). The "Touch Keypad" and the "Touch Keyboard" they enter only numbers and not letters:
for example I press the "er" and it writes the number "1", I cannot figure it out how to write the letters (small or CAP, same thing).
1) Touch Keypad: only numbers
2) Touch Keyboard: only numbers
3) Keyboard: ok
4) Touch qwerty: ok
All of the above (1,2,3 and 4) no T9/input prediction not working.
And now word completion (T9) doesn't work on any keyboard
How can I fix this?
This also happen with my Cruise with udK R0 (the italian one) equipped, even after an hard reset.
I'm looking for a fix, too.
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This also happen with my Cruise with udK R0 (the italian one) equipped, even after an hard reset.
I'm looking for a fix, too.
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partially solved installing a touch keyboard/keypad found in this forum. Now I have a working black keyboard (instead of a white one)
Another bug/issue: when I write an SMS in the "To" field, after pressing few characters it used to show the contacts available with those few input.
Now, instead, I have to insert some characters, and then click "Menus- Check Names".
Is there a way to have it back the auto fill in the "To" field?
I have the same problem as you...really annoying to have to go to contacts first and then pres SMS rather than go to SMS and write SMS and then choose contact. Can't figure out what's wrong =(
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partially solved installing a touch
Another bug/issue: when I write an SMS in the "To" field, after pressing few characters it used to show the contacts available with those few input.
Now, instead, I have to insert some characters, and then click "Menus- Check Names".
Is there a way to have it back the auto fill in the "To" field?
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I have the same issue.. any help would be good
Ok i have solved my issue. I installed Bepe's rom.. then installed the HTC original keyboard cab. Then i disabled the xT9 via a reg edit and now word suggestion and check names works.. phew.. its taken me a bit of trial and error... but its all good now..
Hello there,...
I got the problem that every time that I begin to write an SMS T9 is on. When I click on the softbutton to open the softKeyboard it says that 'ABC' is activated but it ain't. Actually T9 is activated but it doesn't show any word suggestions (only if I tap T9 in the menu, so that ABC is no more activated).
I got the Lilly Rom on my system.
Is there a ways to fix this problem?
regards,
Pete
I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.
Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?
I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps
Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...
That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...
Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.
I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.
Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.
Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.
weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.
I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?
I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?