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hello,
Is it possible to listen to mp3 through the Bluetooth headset?
Not with the current bluetooth software as it stands, however this will change (hopefully) when the new rom is released with the updated bluetooth.
I managed to get MP3s to play through my HBH65 bluetooth headset from my mate's iPaq 2210, but the quality was awful. It was the same trying audio from my PC through the headset (with my sound-enabled bluetooth dongle).
In the long term, it may be possible with the XDA2, but you won't want to do it.
if audio over bluetooth's quality is aimed at the quality of a normal phone it will always be mono and sampled at 3khz or something like that music will never be that nice at such a low rate
of cause i have come across stereo bluetooth headsets which i suppose is strange
stereo bt
There was a stereo bt at CES, only POC but showed promise. I believe they muxing and demuxing at the headset. Obviously needs special drivers, and the hardware at the earpiece is in a dongle, with two ear pieces. Maybe if Apple and Archos take it up it will become available.
sublimatica said:
I managed to get MP3s to play through my HBH65 bluetooth headset from my mate's iPaq 2210, but the quality was awful. It was the same trying audio from my PC through the headset (with my sound-enabled bluetooth dongle).
In the long term, it may be possible with the XDA2, but you won't want to do it.
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Can you share with us how can you do that?
I don't need very good quality for MP3.
Thanks
sublimatica said:
I managed to get MP3s to play through my HBH65 bluetooth headset from my mate's iPaq 2210, but the quality was awful. It was the same trying audio from my PC through the headset (with my sound-enabled bluetooth dongle).
In the long term, it may be possible with the XDA2, but you won't want to do it.
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Can you share with us how can you do that?
I don't need very good quality for MP3.
Thanks
I want to know too.
Thanks~~
When I did it, it was on an Ipaq 2210, not the XDA2, so I'm sure the same technique won't apply since the 2210 uses the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. I had to install a new DLL over an old one on the machine and change a load of registry settings.
I found everything I needed on Google, although I can't recall where exactly.
Do you still want to know?
Yes, I do.
I am not very familiar to use keyword searching on Google.
Instead, i just type a sentence, and normal i cant find what i want..lol
Still looking...
Searched several strings on this, but still looks like no way to play audio (other than phone) to bluetooth headset. I have an XDA II with what appears to be the latest ROM (1.66.00)
As to why, I'm not looking for music MP3, but rather I listen to lots of audiobooks from audible.com. Doesn't seem to make any sense to have to change headsets, bluetooth one for phone and wired one for all other audio!
Whoever finds the solution, please post it here!
Well, several years have passed ...
Any one have an answer for this one ? ( How to play mp3 audio located on the XDA II device thrue a bluetooth headset ... )
I use a no brand Stereo BT headset on the Atom and found the quality is unacceptable poor. I just want to confirm if it's just me or it's a common problem for Atom.
I found the BT stereo quality very poor too. Tried
1. i-Tech S35
2. Gobalsat BT-830 (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
3. Nokia HS-12W (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
quality is way worser compared with the original headphone that came with Atom. I read somewhere this was due to the poor audio chipset used in Atom. Any way to fix that?
BTW, all the above 3 Bluetooth stereo headsets have excellent audio output when listening music from PC (using Widcomm 4.0.1.2800).
I believe it was due to the BT version used. I too tried
1. i-Tech R35 (V1.2)
2. Nokia HS-12W (V2.0)
When pairing both of them with Atom, the sound quality is not that good (always got hissing sound). The same applies when I use the i-Tech headset with my 818pro.
On the other hand, when I use the Nokia headset with 818pro (A2DP enabled), the quality becomes quite good (no significant difference from wired headsets). BTW, I think the Moto BT headset supports V2.0 too, and seems ppl around got some good experience with it and 818pro.
As I mainly use my Atom nowadays (my 818pro got the screen misalignment problem unfortunately), I already forgot about BT headsets.
From all you guys comments, I am not alone in having poor A2DP quality. It's a shame for giving out A2DP but unacceptable quality. :evil:
I-tech S35
Thanks so much for that information. I was really tempted to "upgrade" to an Atom from my Mini because the former had the built in bluetooth so it's a good thing to know I shouldn't upgrade because I was really after the A2DP functionality (since I thought the full release a2dp would be much better than the mini's "hacked" a2dp).
Maybe the stack used on the Atom is not that good. Have you tried upgrading the ROM?
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what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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How's it compared with the using the original headset came with your Atom? For me, bluetooth A2DP is way worse.
I used the same i-Tech clip S35 on XDA 2i, and the A2DP qualitiy is as good as the wired headset came with XDA 2i.
Thanks.
Wired vs Wireless
ok, with the regular wired stereo headset the sound is Ok, but not that good if i compare to my ipod video.
i highly prefer the a2dp system as it seems ur inside a nightclub while using it.
but if i have to choose between the wired headsets or the HT820, i would rather go with the BT headset.
the only thing, is that dangerous for life ? (like getting brain cancer etc... wish not..)
As I mentioned before, I have tested all the combinations for 818pro, Atom (both with latest rom) and two BT headsets i-Tech R35 and Nokia HS-12W, and only found that the BT 2.0 combination, ie, 818pro with HS-12W, produces good enough music quality. For all other combinations, there is always some pretty obvious hizzing sound around when playing a soung. That hizzing sound is not background sound, as it won't appear if I stop playing any song. It only appears when a certain part of a song is played.
It seems to me that the hizzing sound is caused by insufficient bandwidth or over-compression of the data transmission (or both?). This also matches with my test result.
If I am using the 818pro (it is pending for repair), I will surely bring the HS-12W around. Otherwise, I will just stick with my wired adapter + Sony headset.
possible sol guys.
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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AKU 2.0 comes with support for A2DP.
In the case for XDA Atom, A2DP was supported on the day O2 released Atom.
A2DP quality in Atom was poor regardless of the Rom version, I tried the following roms:
1. 20060123B1WWE
2. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060123_Feb2006_.exe
3. R060221N_MN1ARC_RS00045
4. DSUU_ARC_C060414WWE_R060327N_EX0016__test_only_not_for_sale
5. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426B1WWE
As described by buruburu, hizzing sound appears when a certain part of a song is played. Turning On/Off the equalizer doesn't seem to have any effect.
When listening the same song using wired headset, the quality was good, so can't be the problem of the song I am listening.
When listening the same Song using my PC (BT 1.2 with Widcomm 4.0.1.2800 stack), the quality was good as well.
So, no problem with the song I am listening, no problem with the BT Stereo headset I am using, no problem with the BT version (1.2 in Atom, 1.2 in PC; don't have BT 2.0, so can't tell) I am using, and my BT headset works fine making/receiving phone calls.
Conclusion:
1. the BT stack in Atom has a problem;
2. the audio chipset in Atom was a cheap and lousy one;
3. my Atom has a problem (I am in UK, don't have another Atom to test)
If it's (1), hope someone can fix it!!![/i]
tcmp
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
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goldsaint said:
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
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Aha! Finally found this topic. I'm on O² Atom + Jabra BT620s. The headset sound quality is superb stable on pc (5mb limit Bluesoil). On Atom... WM10 sounds too low even volume maxed, the equalizer doesn't work on A2DP. The best is on TCPMP where I can blast the pre-amp to make it louder. The quality is "ok²", hisses are seldom but hiccups exists once or twice in wma/mp3 tracks and too bad headset playback function only work on WM10 not TCPMP. And to click my headset when answering calls, I've to set TCPMP not to play on background, after clicking, I've to increase the headset volume.
Does any of you guys who's using other than Atom experience hiccups on A2DP? And those with Atom other than goldsaint? I don't think it's Jabra's but Atom fault itself. I've only SmallMenuPlus and O²Plus running in background (all startup removed), no battery/space monitors on today and overclocked to constant stable 520Mhz with XCPUScalar on the latest firmware. Thank you...
Am using I-Tech Clip S with my ATOM and sound quality is EXcellent!!! No hissing sound at all.
I highly recommend taking a look at the following,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54621
I had the same complaint, but these registry edits cleared up my quality problems almost entirely.
Tweaked the bitpool settings to 53 but did not recognize any improvement. The other 2 tweaks is useless for me-- whenever i used my I-Tech Clip S BT headset/wireless stereo, can't hear the other callers voice. Streaming audio to my Clip-S is OK but no noticeable difference.
Cheers
I've tried my two bluetooth stereo headset on HP-2210 , DOPOD 818Pro and O2 Atom,one thing is certain,the sound qulilaty in O2 Atom is worst and poor.I consider the problem is ROM Firmware.
Some of the tweaks cause more harm than good
I removed all traces of these tweaks by doing a hard-reset, and my bt stereo is just fine with the occassional break. 8)
IMHO we should not just apply every tweak just because someone posted :twisted: EG some one claims he installed Atom Exec ROM on regular Atom Now he has vamoosed when asked to share. Some one posted a 4-letter word due to the mess he had when he followed that line :twisted:
Not to go against the current trend, but I entered the following into the reg editor and it made a huge improved in the sound quality using the Samsung SBH-100 headphones.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"BitPool"=dword:00000053
"SampleRate"=dword:00044100
Still get the occasional skip but fingers crossed something will come up to fix this soon.
I have been using iTech Clip Radio BT headphone to listen MP3 song with Dopod D810 TC version. But the overall sound quality was not real 'STEREO', sound like 'Psudo-Stereo' or MONO-like.
Pls advise if there was any suggestion to improve. I have also tried the suggestion registry edit using 'UseJointStereo'. But there was no improvement.
Disappointed AD2P stereo effect from Dopod this time.....
victorlam said:
I have been using iTech Clip Radio BT headphone to listen MP3 song with Dopod D810 TC version. But the overall sound quality was not real 'STEREO', sound like 'Psudo-Stereo' or MONO-like.
Pls advise if there was any suggestion to improve. I have also tried the suggestion registry edit using 'UseJointStereo'. But there was no improvement.
Disappointed AD2P stereo effect from Dopod this time.....
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If you search a bit on the forum, you will se that the standard settings for A2DP is joint stereo...
You can fix this by changing the settings in the registry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291384
(look the at keys there, and tweak a little if you want....
To just get real stereo, delete the jointstereo-key, or change the value to 0
neofix said:
If you search a bit on the forum, you will se that the standard settings for A2DP is joint stereo...
You can fix this by changing the settings in the registry
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291384
(look the at keys there, and tweak a little if you want....
To just get real stereo, delete the jointstereo-key, or change the value to 0
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Pls confirm if this really can solve the 'MONO-LIKE' sound effect. I have been modified the registry setting on 'Jointstereo' before but it did not solve the problem.
The joint stereo registry change DOES change the BT audio output to true stereo.
I'm using the iTech R35 BT audio adapter with the reg edit. There is a tradeoff though, in that the music sounds very metallic with JOINTSTEREO off, compared to previously. I can live with it, but it could be better..
Off topic, but I cant seem to get the R35 and D810 pairing to work with phone calls
I found that the default A2DP setting in Athena is used JointStereo,
After I use Registry Editor change JointStereo value to normal stereo the sound quality is become poor,
many high frequence tone in my I-tech Radio (I-tech R35 with radio function),
but this problem haven't appear on jointstereo.
I don't know why HTC use jointstereo than normal stereo there may be some reason was hidden.
simdao said:
I found that the default A2DP setting in Athena is used JointStereo,
After I use Registry Editor change JointStereo value to normal stereo the sound quality is become poor,
many high frequence tone in my I-tech Radio (I-tech R35 with radio function),
but this problem haven't appear on jointstereo.
I don't know why HTC use jointstereo than normal stereo there may be some reason was hidden.
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Hello seems to be a recuring problem of all HTC phone
just see threads of hermes, P3600, etc
with my Artemis i have the same problem, i try to change joint stereo or bitpool and i get very very poor sound
so i resigned to let the HTC setting , it make poor sound but "earable"
so the question is : why ???
in artemis i forget it because of the 180mhz poor processor (remenber htc didn't activate A2DP in prophet because off it)
but i was expecting that X7500 work great with A2DP blutooth !!!!
what the hell are doing the htc's technical team ???
i can't beleve that !!!
i think that this time i'll pass the X7500 and go to ETEN or ASUS
regards
What is sound quality of normal wired headphones?
schoofter said:
What is sound quality of normal wired headphones?
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it's more depend on what headphone you use, and because of this, i am pretty sure my DOPOD U1000 generate the greatest sound i won't go in details of this, because this is a PDA forum not a headphone one
Great A2DP Quality!
I agree with Wu, the audio quality of the A2DP is amazing, the best I have experienced using Bluetooth A2DP, plus the distance I can have between the headphones and the Dopod U1000 is even better!
I am using Motorola's HT820! Great sound!
bogusiano said:
I agree with Wu, the audio quality of the A2DP is amazing, the best I have experienced using Bluetooth A2DP, plus the distance I can have between the headphones and the Dopod U1000 is even better!
I am using Motorola's HT820! Great sound!
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Agree 100% .
I don't thing U1000 provide great sound quality! I try same headset (I-tech Radio + Shure 4G) on different A2DP device Asus535, O2 Zinc, G-Smart i+, Dopod900 and Dopod U1000. Only HTC device have high frequence tone distributed to A2DP headset. Other device provided a stable and great sound quality on A2DP.
it brilliant with my nokia hs-12w
simdao said:
I don't thing U1000 provide great sound quality! I try same headset (I-tech Radio + Shure 4G) on different A2DP device Asus535, O2 Zinc, G-Smart i+, Dopod900 and Dopod U1000. Only HTC device have high frequence tone distributed to A2DP headset. Other device provided a stable and great sound quality on A2DP.
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if you have shure 4G, then don't use the bluetooth, plug your headphone straight into the socket, otherwise you will waste the headphone.
For everyone else, unless you really like the idea of having bluetooth headphone, otherwise to archive maximun sounf quality, you should plug your headphone straight into the Athena
Those who tried it before, give this another chance.
I have made a modified .cab file (Go to the BOTTOM)
- No 30 seconds limit
- Remote control works ( AVRCP)
- No skipping (Convert all MP3 to 192kbps or less)
NOW ONTO SERIOUS BUSINESS
Normal A2DP causes some hissing, sound deterioration (depending of your bitpool capacity) and hogs the phone's resources making it nearly unusable without having to pause the playback to be able to accomplish something like send a SMS.
Blueplayer has NO DETERIORATION – It uses it’s own special codec / technology
###I wish to know WHAT codec/technology is used by Blueplayer?! :O###
PROOF that Blueplayer uses a “SPECIAL” technology instead of normal A2DP
- INDEPENDENT from WM5 / WM6 A2DP drivers.
#To use Blueplayer, you need to DISCONNECT /UNCHECK the “Wireless stereo” from the phone’s Bluetooth settings (paired devices).
- NOT ALL STEREO HEADSETS CAN BE USED! ( i.Tech R35 for headphones)
WM6 A2DP stream to Laptop PC : WORKS
WM6 A2DP stream to Stereo BT Headphones : WORKS
Blueplayer stream to Laptop PC : DOES NOT WORK
Blueplayer stream to Stereo BT Headphones : WORKS
So, only special hardwares can decode whatever is the technology used by Blueplayer. It's not normal A2DP.
- AUDIO QUALITY TEST
WM6 A2DP stream to Laptop PC : Hissing
(Insanely high BitPool has no effect, and wont do skipping)
Laptop Widcomm BT A2DP to Stereo BT Headphones : Same Hissing
(BitPool can't be changed)
Blueplayer stream to Stereo BT Headphones : AWESOME!!
(skips if above 192kbps, so quality has an impact)
Blueplayer stream to Laptop : DOESNT WORK
BACK TO THE POINT !!!
I wish to know what's that technology.
Why?
Blueplayer is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MP3 player. All I care for is the CODEC.
The Blueplayer ITSELF is very difficult to manage.
- To pick a NEW track, you cant just click/tap it. You got to press STOP, then select the track, then press PLAY. (Or use NEXT/PREVIOUS over and over to navigate to it)
- The buttons can only be TAPPED, not clicked, and they are SO TINY that you cant just press them while walking around. You literally got to AIM your fingernail on the button, or use the stylus.
- You cant browse folders by clicking, you got to tap on a TINY TINY (+) to expand folders
- Cant select all subfolders, you got to add each folders individually to the playlist.
- No ID3 support, only a raw file list
etc etc, it's an ugly GUI.
But I want the sweet codec that makes the music sound so great.
OK HERE'S THE FILE!!!
Follow these steps to Pair your BT Headphones with Blueplayer
1 - Delete BT Headphones from your paired devices list in Bluetooth settings
2 - Set your BT headphones in discoverable/pairing mode.
3 - Launch Blueplayer
4 - Tap on "SelectDevice" at the bottom left of the screen
5 - Click on "Refresh" at the bottom middle of the screen
6 - Select your device and press the "ok"
7 - It will ask you to Pair/Add the device (WM6 Bluetooth settings does that)
8 - Once paired, UNCHECK "Wireless Stereo" from the services
9 - In Blueplaye, click on the folder icon near the top/right
10 - Browse for a folder containing directly some MP3 (it will show in the bottom list if it sees the MP3, no sub-folders allowed)
11 - Got to click the "ok" at the bottom left.
12 - Press the tiny tiny tiny "play" button and enjoy.
If you get driver errors, or the music doesnt play in your headphones and the software crashes, you dont have the hardware required to use Blueplayer.
Othewise, ENJOY THE FABULOUS QUALITY STREAMING and the CRAPPY GUI
A2DP supports several CODECs that can be used to transfer the audio over the Bluetooth link.
There is only ONE mandatory codec to support -SBC.
For SBC, normally the sound processing goes like this:
MP3 (source) --WMPlayer--> "decoded WAV" --A2DP--> SBC --wireless--> WAV (Headset)(earphones)
There is another commonly supported codec - MP3. MP3 is a much better codec for sound quality than SBC, but its much more CPU intensive to encode and decode MP3. Most A2DP headsets dont support the MP3 codec, but some (like the i.Tech) do.
My guess is Blueplayer is able to use the MP3 codec for A2DP, if your A2DP headset supports it.
Blueplayer probably does this:
MP3 (source) --Blueplayer A2DP--> MP3 without re-encoding --wireless--> WAV (Headset)
(Sorry to post in a new post - the edit post doesnt work for me using Firefox 3.)
One thing about using the MP3 codec in A2DP is that the player probably cannot do changes to the sound (no volume control, equalizer/bass boost, etc.) without having a huge impact on CPU load.
So essentially what you get is almost the raw MP3 file being streamed wirelessly using A2DP to the headset to decode. Which is a very good way to preserve the sound quality of the MP3 file.
Good find though, I'm glad to see a WM MP3 player that actually supports the MP3 codec for A2DP.
My issue is that blueplayer has a horrible GUI. While it is a great concept to stream the MP3 without reencoding, it's just... horrible.
I've always wondered why a lot of A2DP headsets can decode MP3 directly, yet there are NO software players that take advantage of it other than blueplayer.
does it work on wm smartphone