Right now I am using IBM's J9 Midlet Manager and it works out well with the maps application, but it's slower than JBED and for some reason it doesn't show the maps in high resolution even with the high resolution J9 version installed. JBED's only problem is that you can't connect to the serial ports of your phone and thus MGMAPS keeps reporting that there is no GPS unit available. I've had the same problem with the Intent Midlet Manager and thus would like to know if there is
a) a way to make it work with JBED or Intent.
b) a way to make IBM's J9 display high resolution.
Please no "use Mobile GMaps" answers as I have my reasons for using the midlet (offline maps, favorites, extra services). Any help on this would be greatly appreciated as I really hope this can be fixed either way.
Falk said:
a) a way to make it work with JBED or Intent.
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Nope, they don't support serial ports.
b) a way to make IBM's J9 display high resolution.
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This is easy and has already been explained in my MIDlet Bible (see row "Opera Mini 4 beta 2 fonts - VGA?" of the chart at http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/CompatibilityAndMain.html ):
Forcing J9MIDP20.EXE (or, for that matter, ANY .EXE's) doesn't help, as opposed to earlier, 5.7-series J9 versions. The only way to get high-res support is switching to Real VGA mode and using the QVGA version of J9 (NOT the VGA version - the latter won't execute your deployed MIDlets at all!). An example screenshot of this is HERE (using Large characters). Note that, as the QVGA and VGA versions can co-exist on the same machine and will use the same deployed MIDlets, this seems to be a usable solution to get hi-res support when you really need it (and, at the same time, can live without hardware softkey support - you'll need to use the on-screen menus to issue commands, unlike with the VGA version. At least this was the case on my VGA Universal.).
Thank you! Problem solved. It's really a shame that HTC didn't get around to put a decent midlet manager onto their devices. I could play with a N95 a bit recently and like your comparison chart shows it's a whole different world. I am not a heavy user, but MGMAPS sure has taught me a lesson that midlets can even be better than native Windows apps... with the right manager / device.
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OK Chaps..(and any Chapesses..of course. :wink: )
Whilst accsessing the web, I noticed that any JAVA appletts I came across didnt work........
I gather this is somthing to do with downloading some .jab, .jar files, / midlet suite into the Midlet manager.........
Where do I find such beasts........
(Looked at Midlet.com. but didn't see the XDA listed...or am I just being stupid?)
Many thanks
Steve.
A lot of confusion goes on with Java. The XDAII does not support full Java, i.e. embedded Java applets in web pages, or Java applications.
It does support a flavour of ECMAScript, called JScript, for scripting simple things on web pages - this is often confused with Java because Netscape called the original scripting language JavaScript. Apart from a similarity in syntax, it has very little to do with "real" Java.
However with the latest ROM update from O2, you get Midlet Manager which can run standalone applications using a particular cut-down version of "real" Java called J2ME (java 2 micro edition; with MIDP - mobile information device profiles) . These are generally called midlets, and are normally packaged as jar or jad files.
There are two problems here -
Hardware: these applications are usually written for mobile phones with a keypad, which the XDA lacks and midlet manager doesn't simulate, so many of the midlets are just not usuable; mobile phones have teeny weeny screens, and of course the XDA has a nice big one, so midlets generally will look awful.
Software: Because mobile phones are pretty low spec compared to our glorious XDAs, midlets are generally pathetic comared with real pocketPC applications.
If you want to try some midlets, just to see how pointless they are, there are a lot of free ones at www.midlet.org
If you want to run full Java on the XDA, you can purchase a proper JVM. I beleive Jeode runs OK, but it is $50.
There's also Waba, which is a free, similarly cut-down java variant, that is a good alternative to J2ME; and IBM Websphere Micro Edition, that is a cheap alternative full J2ME.
I've heard that the NetFront alternative browser has a companion JVM for applets, so this might be your best bet if you want to run Java Applets in web pages.
Cheers.!!!
Midlet Manager
cant be downloaded from anywhere can it
is it comercial and only in roms like the new o2 one ?
Yeah, it's one of those products that the vendor only licenses to OEMs. I suppose you could get somebody to send you the cab from the extended rom and see if it'll install.
hello,
a small Q, I'm trying to get Google earth to work on my new tytn but im missing the java plug-in, any one got a clue which java plug-in will fit the tytn (if at all)?
thanks!
Google earth
danidin said:
hello,
a small Q, I'm trying to get Google earth to work on my new tytn but im missing the java plug-in, any one got a clue which java plug-in will fit the tytn (if at all)?
thanks!
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Are you talking about Virtual Earth Mobile cos this is brilliant. I used to use a version that required a java plug in but I reckon this is better excellent in fact.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4439.html
This gives a cab file so dead easy to install.
Mike
Java version
Danidin
Sorry if I was a little dismissive re Java version, and as I'm feeling guilty, here's a link that will help if you really want to pursue the Java, Jar, Jad, Midlet thingy route.
Note "Google Local Mobile got renamed to Google Mobile Maps (gmm) and the main Java class is now called GoogleNav."
http://jeepx.blogspot.com/2005/12/google-local-mobile.html
Mike
Also some more info on Java on PDAs here:
http://blog.vikdavid.com/2004/12/java_on_pocketp.html
I use the IBM J9 java emulator. Works well.
BTW You might like to have a look at MG Maps:
http://www.mgmaps.com/
It can access Google Maps, Google Satellite, MSN Road Map, MSN Aerial, MSN Aerial with labels, Yahoo Maps, Yahoo Satellite, Ask.com Maps and Ask.com Aerial. It's GPS aware (although this doesn't seem to work with my BT GPS) and can access KML overlays (although I haven't tried this out yet.)
Very nice.
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Also some more info on Java on PDAs here:
http://blog.vikdavid.com/2004/12/java_on_pocketp.html
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Please also note that my PPCMag Expert Blog has a LOT of additional Java-related tips and tricks. I'm constantly reporting on the latest developments in the PPC-related Java questions. Make sure you check out all the three Java-related categories in my blog at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3
thanks guys! a lot of info to dive in, great!
People still use java??? I haven't used java on my phone since I last had a SonyEricsson! I haven't bothered with Java on WM phones.
java and flash are the future of mobiles, they just haven't realized it yet (aside from Japan ) and ajax...
I think the original poster was referring to javascript, not real java code. A lot of Banks and online sites us javascript and it used to be a big problem with ce and wm2002 and wm 2003. WM5 seems to handle some of the basic javascript and then there are several apps for addon such as IBM's j9 or websphere or what ever the name is this year. Also, midlet's are becoming more available
darky said:
java and flash are the future of mobiles
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You mean JavaScript? Very few pages use client-side Java and I don't think this will change.
eagle 1 said:
I think the original poster was referring to javascript, not real java code.
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Nope, Google Earth is Midlet-based; see my Midlet & Google Earth -related articles.
Is there any way you can get a pluggin that makes java midlets (J2ME) Work any better? The ammount of midlets that install and then just do nothing is appaling? Sony Ericcsons and Nokia's have multiplayer Bluetooth Midlets that work on either device, why not on ours?? Also one in particular is REPORO (Awesome Program) They have a midlet specifically made for the Wizzard wchic works fine on the Tytn but I have found it is massively cut down! On a Nokia or Sony Ericsson or Motorola (I work in a phone shop so have everything readily available) They can all access the phones contact book and Pictures and Camera so you can send free picture messages to other REPORO users! Now Ive installed all the other brands versions onto my VARIO and they all install fine but then they dont run and crash my phone! Can I get an emulator or a pluggin to fix this?
www.REPORO.com
(Awesome if only for the live football results)
Chat rooms
Free Texts
Free Picture Messages
MSN, YAHOO, AIM, Google Messenger!
Shopping
News
Horrorscopes
And the list keeps getting bigger! Awesome software!! (MAke sure you select the O2 XDA MINI S as your device as its the only Wizzard derivative on there.
Install the J9 VM like others have mentioned.
Oh, and remember: "Write Once, Run Anywhere"...HA!!
Esmertec Jbed (as of version 20070622.2.1), prolly the best Midlet manager today (if you don't take the lack of 3D, direct links and proxies into account, in which Tao 11.1.x is still better), has stopped working yesterday (see for example the last few posts at http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=110939&page=3 for other user reports).
The reason for this is that it simply timed out in September - yeah, it was timebombed.
Does anyone have a Windows Mobile device sporting a newer, (still) working version? Or, does anyone want to cure the problem in some other way?
Im suprised no one has commented on this yet. For me, Opera 4 is THE way to browse the internet on a pocket pc, and no midlet manager did it better than Jbed mainly because it worked in fullscreen mode. While Tao's manager is okay, especially since the new beta 2 allows for the removal of the top and bottom red bards (pressing **), this is is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Ross
I too just ran into this problem!
megarek said:
Im suprised no one has commented on this yet. For me, Opera 4 is THE way to browse the internet on a pocket pc, and no midlet manager did it better than Jbed mainly because it worked in fullscreen mode. While Tao's manager is okay, especially since the new beta 2 allows for the removal of the top and bottom red bards (pressing **), this is is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Ross
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BTW, speaking of Opera Mini 4 beta 2, did you read my related review at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326368 ?
I've sent the Esmertec folks a mail asking whether they would make their Midlet manager purchasable.
Hope they DO consider this so that we won't have to rely on "hacking" it off other ROM's.
it is true in my wizard when i want to open the esmerc app it closes why for me that is better than java mannager of risidoro
Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 works now ok on Tao Intent Midlet Manager (not crashing it as Beta 1 did), so not a big problem for me...
Mirek
I'm using the Esmertec Java , Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1 with no problem
hma4 said:
I'm using the Esmertec Java , Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1 with no problem
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Esmertec Jeodek is vastly different from Esmertec Jbed. The latter is generally MUCH better. See the preview of my Midlet Bible if interested.
mirekluza said:
Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 works now ok on Tao Intent Midlet Manager (not crashing it as Beta 1 did), so not a big problem for me...
Mirek
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Jbed offers, among other things, seamless full screen (unlike Tao Intent); this is why it'd be great to make it work / being able to legally purchase it.
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it is true in my wizard when i want to open the esmerc app it closes why for me that is better than java mannager of risidoro
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BTW, as far as Tao Intent is concerned, check out the above-linked Opera Mini 4 thread; I've posted a lengthy excerpt on what ither Tao Intent versions there are from my forthcoming Midlet Bible.
In general, I recommend using the Russian builds over that of Risidoro, for two reasons:
1, they run off a storage card (and, therefore, store the deployed JAR files on a card too)
2, there's a vastly enhanced, "turbo" version of them.
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BTW, as far as Tao Intent is concerned, check out the above-linked Opera Mini 4 thread; I've posted a lengthy excerpt on what ither Tao Intent versions there are from my forthcoming Midlet Bible.
In general, I recommend using the Russian builds over that of Risidoro, for two reasons:
1, they run off a storage card (and, therefore, store the deployed JAR files on a card too)
2, there's a vastly enhanced, "turbo" version of them.
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Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1479183&postcount=13
It's right (it's his nick) posted a cab file of Jbed (but it doesn't work for me) on the bottom of this thread's first page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327080
For those really desperate on keeping their Jbeds (like me). Just move the time/date back to something before Sept 1, 2007 when starting Jbed. It will still work.
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It's right (it's his nick) posted a cab file of Jbed (but it doesn't work for me) on the bottom of this thread's first page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327080
For those really desperate on keeping their Jbeds (like me). Just move the time/date back to something before Sept 1, 2007 when starting Jbed. It will still work.
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Yes, then, it'll work. However, Opera Mini will complain of the date being too early and, then, refuse to work. (Other MIDlets will, however, work.)
Partial Fix by its right (maker of the TNT ROMs)
Found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1480902#post1480902
It's pretty much just a Joedek Build: 20070425.1.1.
I have tried the calendar reset and it works fine. Once the app is launched you can set the calendar back to proper date and jbed / opera mini continue to run. This should be the case until you close jbed / opera mini. At that point you would have to reset the calendar again. (so just leave the apps running)
I'm just curious. Is anyone else's "OLD E-Java" shortcut still working? Mine seems to still work, I had two versions the NEW-nowdefunct versoin and my OLD one. I was unable to use GMaIL with the OLD, but once I installed teh NEW version, I was now able to use Gmail on my OLD E Java. My new E JAVA doesn't work anymore , but the old one still works great with GMail and Opera Mini 4.2
Menneisyys said:
Esmertec Jeodek is vastly different from Esmertec Jbed. The latter is generally MUCH better. See the preview of my Midlet Bible if interested.
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The Esmertec Jbed is better??
Where can i get that version, please ??
The esmertec JVM (non jbed) still works without a hitch. Only problem is no full screen. It's the esmertec Jbed JVM that does not work any longer. As to which is better I have used both and the esmertec Jbed JVM blows the regular esmertec JVM out of the water.
I see. Well hopefully we can get the Jbed version working again, without a "timebomb" as some people have said.
Hi,
is there a release of Esmertec (or other) Java Virtual Machine that supports native screen resolution? Using the one that comes with R2A, apps look really ugly...
TIA
I'm interested in this if anyone has any info to share!
i suspect that it's the java apps
fault if you try a vga java midlet you can
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Rudegar said:
i suspect that it's the java apps
fault if you try a vga java midlet you can
verify it
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No, I've installed a WVGA JVM once, but it was quite old and GPS connectivity didn't work. The app I was interested in displayed in WVGA, though.
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Found one that works. Search the forum for "VGA Esmertec Jbed 20090217.5.1R2.CAB.zip".
I uninstalled the midlets before installing this CAB. It replaces the stock JVM.
Now I have full 480x800 resolution ;-)
Bump for great justice...
This is my first contribution to the Windows Mobile community. My testing so far is limited to an HTC Touch so I am hoping it works on most other QVGA phones.
Overview
Mobile Hold’em Manager is simple Windows Mobile application to manage the blinds, antes and seating assignments at your favorite poker home game or tournament. It is optimized for QVGA (240x320) touch screen smart phones running Windows Mobile 6. Mobile Hold’em Manager allows you to configure the length, blind values and ante value for each round and can assign player seat numbers for multiple tables. Multiple tournament profiles can be saved allowing to quickly change between different tournament setups and there is also configurable audible and vibration alerts.
Requirements
Windows Mobile Professional 6 or higher
QVGA (240x320) touch screen
.NET Compact Framework version 3.5
800 KB storage space
Installation
Simply copy HoldemManager.CAB to you device, click on the file from your device’s File Explorer and follow the on screen instructions. To uninstall, click Start->Settings and then click Remove Programs from the System tab. Select DKR Software Mobile Hold’em Manager from the list of install programs then press the Remove button.
Future Updates
Skinning support
Support for audio files other than WAV
Support for other screen resolutions
Support for portrait / landscape switching
The install CAB is attached to this post. A PDF user manual with screen shots can be downloaded from:
http://members.shaw.ca/dunlopkr/MobileHoldemManager.pdf
If you like it please:
Cheers,
dunlopkr
BUMP
Anybody give this a try yet. I'd like to know if anyone finds it useful before I start developing new features.
Cheers,
Ken
I can test it for you!
Hello,
I found your little app quite interesting, seems simple and intuitive.
I will test it, and give it a try for my next poker tournament. =)
I'll come back to you to give you my appreciation / comments.
Thanks for your good work!
i would love to use it but on my Diamond is doesnt work right cuase of the resolution
Hope for an update
greetz
I'd love to try it out, but as with the user above, my diamond runs at vga.
Would really love to see a vga version, as this is one of the apps ive really wanted for my phone.
Thanks for your contribution!