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Orange works Vodafone doesn't! Unlocked with Manipulator

Hi everyone. Great programme thanks but can anyone tell me why my Vodafone contract SIM won't work? I get a signal fine, It detects the Vodafone network fine. But every call drops before connection with Unable to Place Call message. Also will not take incoming calls. My Orange Pay as You Go SIM now works fine... and it has definitely unlocked as only O2 worked before. But I need Vodafone SIM to work.
The Vodafone SIM still works in all other handsets. I have also checked with Vodafone and they say there is no reason why the SIM should not work in un unlocked XDA. There are no calls barred on the account.
Is it a setting I have wrong? Or something I did wrong in the unlocking process? Many thanks for anyone's help.
My XDA is Pocket PC 2002, 32mb RAM
Rom Version: 3.12.07 eng
Rom Date. O8.13.02
Radio Ver: 4.06
Protocol 32S54
David C [/b]

Hi mate,
I have used the unlocked 64 mb xda with vodaphone with no problems. My rom was 3.16 and radiostack 4.20 and it wasn't any problem. Now I have upgraded to the good old xda rom from Jeff's kitchen and new radio stack from O2. I suggest you do the same and it will problably work better.
Good luck.
Cheers
Vic

I would wait a day before trying anything else, the phone is obviously unlocked to both 900 and 1800 mhz networks. I have had experience with Vodafone and T Mobile and Virgin recently where no calls could be placed for many hours, next day everything was normal, some kind of network problem. Have you tried the sms using the Voda sim, also what message does a caller get when trying to call you if you have the Voda sim inserted.

One more thing, I think it says somewhere that if you upgrade the radio stack to 4.21 then the unlock no longer works, so it would be better to get this solved before you upgrade the stack.

Thanks for your suggestions guys. But the Voda SIM works fine in my other phones and I have just tried it again in the XDA and same thing happens. Unable To Place Call. So it's not the network.
When I try to dial in to the Voda SIM on XDA I just hear a long tone...dead. It is a very early XDA. Don't know if that makes a difference.
Any help gratefully received as running out of ideas. Is there a manufacturer that may be able to help? But then they probably know less than you. I doubt if O2 will want to!
Many thanks again
Dave

Oh and Cruisin-Thru
SMS does work both ways...just the voice calls that don't. Any clues?
Thanks v much
dave :?

Have you tried manually setting the network under settings/phone/network, try choosing that and see what happens.

I have yes.
It's detecting Vodafone network fine. Just no calls. It's almost as if there's a call bar on though Voda tell me there isn't and it works in all other handsets.
Thanks anyway
Dave

One other thing, is that a very old sim card? Have you tried another voda sim in the xda, I remember having strange problems with some phones with the earlier sim cards, dont know the difference between them though.

Hi there, thanks. It doesn't work on any Vodafone SIMS. But all other networks. Vodafone say they don't know anything about the XDA and it must be a hardware fault..
Could it be that it is not unlocked "properly"? Should I run manipulator again? Think may have to give up on this one.
Thanks Dave

02 uk rom?

Has anyone managed to get a tytn working on the uk o2 network? o2 say theu do not support the phone although they have the phone in germany listed as an xda trion. I can make calls and texts with my simcard but have no 3g access as yet. The phone was originally on vodaphone. Any help appreciated !

dont you just need to edit the connection settings for o2?
these should be the same for any o2 phone that uses 3g...
i believe they are posted on the wiki

thanks for quick answer
Thats what i thought, but phoned o2 for the settings and they just kept saying that the "software" in this phone is not compatible with o2 network and therefore there is no support for it and no settings ! MUPPETS !
Any idea where i can find the settings for a normal o2 phone?
Worth a try, I really want this phone on o2 !

picard1290 said:
Thats what i thought, but phoned o2 for the settings and they just kept saying that the "software" in this phone is not compatible with o2 network and therefore there is no support for it and no settings ! MUPPETS !
Any idea where i can find the settings for a normal o2 phone?
Worth a try, I really want this phone on o2 !
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I smell COW DUNG!!!! O2 are spinning rubbish to you sir...ive been using a TyTN since the middle of August with O2-UK (see stats hehehe).
Il get my settings into a .txt file for you...theres some variations you can use but il set you up with the ones that work ok??
What are you on PAYG or Contract???
P.S: My TyTN is a genuine HTC TyTN (i.e not a varioII or imate JASJAM variation of it) bought it unbranded(unlocked) from mobilefun.co.uk....sim free.

Theres a cab file with the O2 UK settings somewhere on this forum I usen it all the time. Sorry I don't have the link anymore after the XDA Dev switch to new servers. Also O2 3G works perfectly fine with the tytn. What you do have to have is a 3G enabled sim card, I had to get mine changed for one & also do you have O2 3G coverage where you are? To determine if you have just whip out the sim card & it should have 3G printed on it.

Yer if your SIM is not a 3G enabled one (USIM) then give O2 a bell and say you have recently aquired a 3G handset and need a new SIM card for it to work with the 3G service....they should send one out (for free)...when it turns up just call O2 again and get them to enable it.
What they said about the TyTN not being supported is a crock of sh*t .... im guessing they will only give you the settings when its an O2 handset!?

Forgot to add the O2 3G settings are exactly the same as the normal GPRS. You just need a 3G enabled sim card

Can I use 3 sim???

Can someone please help me in answering a niggling question I have about the TyTn (Hermes), before I go out and buy one. Firstly has anyone used their machines with a 3 sim?????
I have searched but cant find this being asked or answered anywhere.

yes gprs and utms and regular calls sms/mms are no problem at all.
But the services at three´s portal like music etc dont work 100% :S but i can take that...

closetland said:
yes gprs and utms and regular calls sms/mms are no problem at all.
But the services at three´s portal like music etc dont work 100% :S but i can take that...
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ok cheers for the answer mate, but i notice that your not in the uk and this questions mainly concerned the 3 network here in the uk mate and also the reason why I asked is because I saw this advert for the VPA Compact III, which my understanding was the same machine but he states that it cant be used with 3??? thanks for the quick reply.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-VPA-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hi Shabba,
I'm sure I put a 3 SIM in mine the other day without a problem, however i've had a few drinks since then and can't fully remember. I'll try mine tomorrow with a 3 SIM but there should be no reason it shouldn't work if it's unlocked.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Gavin.

GavinN said:
Hi Shabba,
I'm sure I put a 3 SIM in mine the other day without a problem, however i've had a few drinks since then and can't fully remember. I'll try mine tomorrow with a 3 SIM but there should be no reason it shouldn't work if it's unlocked.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Gavin.
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Cheers Gav, Please let us all know mate. So why is this guy http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-VPA-...ryZ38331QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
stating its not compatible???? totally confused!!!!

Yeah I don't get it either. There should be no reason why the TyTn can't connect to the 3 network as it's either WCDMA for 3 or GSM for O2 (Soon to be Orange) when there is no WCDMA coverage and the TyTN is able to use both. The only thing possibly is the 3 SIM card might be a UICC but I'd be very surprised if this is causing problems as Vodafone D2 and UK both use UICC too (basically a smart card with both USIM and SIM profiles stored).
Maybe it's as Closetland says that some 3 services are unavailable so he just says it doesn't work full stop?
Let me check for you tomorrow. I've got both a SPV M3100 (unlocked) and a T-Mobile Vario II I can try.
Gav.

GavinN said:
Yeah I don't get it either. There should be no reason why the TyTn can't connect to the 3 network as it's either WCDMA for 3 or GSM for O2 (Soon to be Orange) when there is no WCDMA coverage and the TyTN is able to use both. The only thing possibly is the 3 SIM card might be a UICC but I'd be very surprised if this is causing problems as Vodafone D2 and UK both use UICC too (basically a smart card with both USIM and SIM profiles stored).
Maybe it's as Closetland says that some 3 services are unavailable so he just says it doesn't work full stop?
Let me check for you tomorrow. I've got both a SPV M3100 (unlocked) and a T-Mobile Vario II I can try.
Gav.
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Cheers Gav please let us know mate!

Trying to get my damn 3 SIM working - they have all been deactivated!!! Bloody company account departments...
Update soon..
Gav.

UPDATE:
I've got one 3 SIM which does register onto 3 but when i make a call I get the message 'Your service does not allow access to this number' so the call is being setup correctly. This is the exact same behaviour as having the SIM in the original LG phone.
Gav.

Brilliant. Thanks for all your help Gav. Now to look for the best deal around for one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shabba007 said:
Brilliant. Thanks for all your help Gav. Now to look for the best deal around for one of these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't Three in the UK stock the Dopod 838pro? They are starting to here in Oz.

Hi Shabba,
If you haven't taken the plunge already then some more info for you. I've got a working 3 SIM now and making and receiving calls OK. Don't have all the GPRS settings for 3 so didn't test that.
Gav.

topher1976 said:
Don't Three in the UK stock the Dopod 838pro? They are starting to here in Oz.
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Hi topher1976, no they dont mate, infact it was only recently perhaps in the last year or so that they decided to release phones that weren't the size of bricks. The only phone they've release over here that slightly resembles a PPC was the Motorola a1000 and then a later but similar Motorola model both of which were huge and based on symbian UIQ operating system which is a bit poooh!!!

GavinN said:
Hi Shabba,
If you haven't taken the plunge already then some more info for you. I've got a working 3 SIM now and making and receiving calls OK. Don't have all the GPRS settings for 3 so didn't test that.
Gav.
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Cheers for all your help Gav have you tried txting mate?? I'm just waiting for a PAC code from orange before I go an order 1. Orange did try an offer me the SPV M3100 on a very good contract but couldnt compete with tmobile's Web n Walk. Guess i'd have to pay to have it unlocked though!!
Once again cheers Gavin!!!!!!!!!

Hey,
yeah TXT'ing is fine too. I got my M3100 unlocked for £20 from Orange. Not free but I can live with that.
Gav.

hopefully t-mobile will unlock it for me... dont mind paying a little for it! by the way just got off orange and they've sed they do a off peek unlimited data package for £5!!!!!

Signal Missing

Hi
I am using my O2 Neo (prophet) for past few months. Now suddenly the GSM signal is on searching mode. (The tower sign is like Y.... with moving dots) I can't get a signal on the phone and no calls and sms but all other PDA functions are working fine.
Could you please help on fixing it. I did the resettings by loading the OS too.
Thanks
RABIMS

What could be the problem with O2 Neo. The signal keeps on searching while the same SIM is working with another mobile.
Please Help on identifying the problem and solution...
RABIMS

i have the same problem
I have the same problem here but with the orange SPV M600, i have tried different sim cards on different networks and vodafone worked, i have a feeling that it is a problem with the radio rom.

rabims said:
What could be the problem with O2 Neo. The signal keeps on searching while the same SIM is working with another mobile.
Please Help on identifying the problem and solution...
RABIMS
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is it a stock Prophet?

mark buckle said:
I have the same problem here but with the orange SPV M600, i have tried different sim cards on different networks and vodafone worked, i have a feeling that it is a problem with the radio rom.
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is it a stock Prophet?

Would like to try out Cingular's HSDPA(3G) on my phone, is Cingular ROM required?

Hey everyone. I've been out of contract with T-Mobile for a while now, and I'm considering moving to Cingular very soon. I have a softbank X01HT that's unlocked with WM6 ROM, my question is, do I need to flash the phone with a Cingular ROM for the HSDPA to work? What i plan to do is pass by a cingular shop and ask if I could try out their service on my phone while I'm there by using their SIM card. Would the HSDPA (3G) settings be imported from the SIM or would they already have to be on the phone? My main reason for wanting HSDPA is mainly for skype use, I have family in Philippines who I would love to stay in contact with. Any help on this is greatly appreciated, thanks.

kman79 said:
Hey everyone. I've been out of contract with T-Mobile for a while now, and I'm considering moving to Cingular very soon. I have a softbank X01HT that's unlocked with WM6 ROM, my question is, do I need to flash the phone with a Cingular ROM for the HSDPA to work? What i plan to do is pass by a cingular shop and ask if I could try out their service on my phone while I'm there by using their SIM card. Would the HSDPA (3G) settings be imported from the SIM or would they already have to be on the phone? My main reason for wanting HSDPA is mainly for skype use, I have family in Philippines who I would love to stay in contact with. Any help on this is greatly appreciated, thanks.
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No - you do not need a Cingular ROM. You may need to activate HSDPA on the ROM (use a Tweaker like HTweakC - which Google or forum search will help you find.) Good luck and enjoy.

I appreciate the very quick reply...currently searching for the said programs above, thanks again.
EDIT* HTweakC was already on the Black ROM i had installed, well that was easy Thanks.

kman79 said:
I appreciate the very quick reply...currently searching for the said programs above, thanks again.
EDIT* HTweakC was already on the Black ROM i had installed, well that was easy Thanks.
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Heh - should have looked at your signature! Good luck.