OK people, this might sound daft BUT I want to run LinuxLiveCD on my laptop while at work where the only internet is through my 3G on a Touch Diaomnd.
Now I know this work very well in vista, but is it even possible in linux (live or otherwise) if not can you think of any other solution?
The main reason I want to do this is to stop Windows et all, auto updating while I am on 3G (£££££££ ). The plan would be use Linux for booting into to do e-mail maybe a little light irc and some web browsing, then back to vista for music and movies and everything.
Well i hope I have explained this well enough
thanks all
I would suggest WMwifirouter. It circumvents needing to directly attach your phone to the computer by broadcasting a wifi network.
I've been using it for a few months with my eeePC and mogul. It's a lifesaver to have internet anywhere via a wifi network you carry in your pocket
Hmmm I think you missed the point, I want to connect WinMob to LinuxLive using the internet sharing, mind you thinking about it as I type you might be on to somthing
/me will investigate but would rather not have to buy software
Ok, I could never get the "internet sharing" to work on x1 with my friends laptop cause i dont have the drivers...so always used Wifirouter.
I find it a little slow, but it works and does work well. However, I read that the x1 supports "HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 2 Mbps" ...but i dont get speeds like that.
If somebody has the files required for connecting the x1 to a laptop and use internet sharing instead of wifirouter...can you upload and post it here? I will then keep them on my storage card for safe keeping.
Also, how do you find internet sharing? Is there any difference in speed compared to wifirouter?
Any help or advice would be great, cheers guy!
I think HSDPA is simply network dependent -when its there you get an H symbol on your signal strength (taskbar) ...when its not there you get the next best thing (3G) and if that's not available you're stuck with plain old slow GPRS (G)
Internet sharing works well for me (obviously depends on the connection you have on the X1 -as above) ...have not used wifirouter so can't say how they compare
7.2 Mbps is theoretical maximum. Your provider is not obliged to provide you with this speed. I get about 1 Mbps for download.
Actually you don't need special drivers for the X1 in order to use tethering. Just connect the X1 to a PC using an USB cable and start the "Internet Sharing" Application on the Xperia. Within the application select "USB Connection" and choose your preconfigured ISP connection profile - é voilà. You will notice that the Xperia appears as a network adapter on the PC. I use that a lot.
Regarding the speed: It really depends on your mobile network. Though my network provider (Vodafone Germany) has some spots where 7,2 MBit/s should be available, I have never had such fast download rates - it's more like 2-3 MBit/s which is still quite okay for me. And even if the network would be capable of such fast transfer rates, the speed will be reduced by the more clients use the same cell.
I also read somewhere (guess it was on SE offical site) that using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only - at least it's worth a try if you're sure that your operator provides such fast transfer rates. I always have both switched on.
Nice, 2-3mbps is a lot faster than i was getting...i guess i will need to try this out.
Regarding my friends laptop, maybe i should have said its win xp but it doesnt have active sync or any x1 soft installed...so maybe thats why its looks for the drivers?
Basically i was wondering if you guys knew where i could get the drivers keep them on my phone for times when im out and can get my proper internet fix
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
How is the battery consumption when using WMWifiRouter, e.g. how long does the battery last? I can imagine this is the worst use-case at all, because you have WiFi active and HSDPA in parallel.
The big advantage when using an USB connection is that the battery is charging while it's connected, though the WiFi method is much more comfortable and flexible.
you do know that 7.2Mbps mega bits per sec? and not megabytes.
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I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
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Actually you do not need a cable, you can have the phone to act as a bluetooth modem through the internet connection sharing , no drivers required what so ever, you will need to pair your phone with the laptop first make sure, that Bluetooth PAN client is checked on the laptop, then start the internet connection sharing on the phone and make sure that you are using bluetooth PAN, and you will have instant access on your laptop, No drivers, No cables
assuming the laptop has bluetooth
wifi is much more standard, so it's handy to have.
The best part here is non of these mrthods are mutually exclusive, so you can use whichever is best for the situation. USB is handy as ICS does drain power, using wifi for it makes my X1 extremely warm...
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... using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only...
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You're right!
sidneylopsides said:
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
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Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
Generic NDIS is one of the system files in windows found under system32, windows will not boot even in safe mode if these drivers are not loaded, ICS works fine as far as i can tell with no extra drivers on any windows XP or later
i downloaded this;
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/NDIS/rndis.mspx
but its from 2005
I hope it works
Ive owned my x1 for about 6months, I have unlimited pda data plan but not tethering plan with my carrier. For some reason I can teather my x1 to my eeePC 901 via USB,but not BT,and get internet when Im not in a wifi spot. It does give me the BT PAN option and my devices are paired but cant get internet connection, only thru USB. Ive tried this multi times for over a month now and have not been charged any data usage or overage on my bill.
I was about to do the r3a update, but was wondering if there was any ninja fixes in this update. Id hate to lose this ability just for a little faster performance.
just use wmwifirouter bro
ActiveSync installation provides the ICS drivers
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Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
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You DO need ActiveSync to be installed before you can use your X1 for ICS.
I tested it yesterday on my Windows XP SP3 laptop: When you connect your WM6 mobile with the ICS program running on it, WinXP demands for a plain Generic NDIS driver but won't find a suitable one. But during ActiveSync installation (version 4.5 worked for me), the USB drivers are updated, and afterwards my X1 got recognized as a "Windows Mobile Internet Connection Sharing Device" or something like that.
ActiveSync is not active during ICS session, but its prior installation is mandatory for it to work.
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In one hand, using the Wifi router is simple. On the other hand, Wifi draws more battery power than bluetooth...
How long do you intend to use it for as, in my opinion, both are a poor long-term solution due to the power draw.
Also, bluetooth may use less power but it will also create a bottleneck that will mean that you have to use it longer.
Yes both will eat power. Cable is much better, however if you have no choice then I'd use bluetooth it consumes a bit less power than wifi.
That said if you use Linux, as I do on some laptops, (and maybe Mac? I dont use.) you might have some trouble getting internet to flow through bluetooth, in which case wifi is better.
I would use WiFi, much easier to setup and use on the fly just as any wireless router is. In either case, I believe your best bet is to have it plugged in during use as power usage will be high either way!
The Wifi router of the HD2 only supports WEP.
That's a "no go" for me...
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The Wifi router of the HD2 only supports WEP.
That's a "no go" for me...
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Why not? What secrets do you have on your pc....and do you live in an apartment block surrounded by hackers?
I can plug my hd2 into my laptop and surf the net via mobile web. But how do i set it up so I can use the hd2 as a WiFi modem ?. Even with WiFi on, it still uses mobile web. Updating my laptop via my hd2 takes hours lol.
BTW I have WiFi router in my home.
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I can plug my hd2 into my laptop and surf the net via mobile web. But how do i set it up so I can use the hd2 as a WiFi modem ?. Even with WiFi on, it still uses mobile web. Updating my laptop via my hd2 takes hours lol.
BTW I have WiFi router in my home.
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You have to have the WiFi router app. Google XDA WiFi router for Windows Mobile you will find it. Oh and by the way just because it is WiFi does not mean it will increase the speed. The speed is dependant on your cellular data signal you know Edge or 3G.
I have never used the wi-fi app, and have had no need to do so so far. Bluetooth works two different ways--through DUN or PAN.
However, I could see certain situations where that could come in handy. FOr instance, with a device that cannot BT tether, but can access wi-fi--for instance if one has an Ipad
We have a website that we use to feed web services to a .NET Compact app on some old WinMo 6.1 devices.
(Believe me, I'm WELL aware they are dinosaur-dead per MS! But, it's what the client uses.)
What with the current WFH/Covid situation I'm trying to hit our site with the development handheld here at home. In order to hit the site though, I need to be connected to our office VPN (it is not available public). It all works great on my laptop. I connect the VPN, I hit the site, it comes up. Golden.
It seems though that the WMDC connection does not share out access to the VPN resources to the handheld. If I try to pull up the site on the handheld, it times out, and says that the server could not be found. I can pull up other, public sites on the handheld while cradled, without issue.
Anyone have any idea how to get the VPN and its protected resources to be visible/available to the handheld in the cradle? The cradle is plugged in to my laptop via USB.
Handheld is a Motorola MC3090 running WinMo 6.1.
My laptop is running Windows 10, build 19042.685.
VPN is Sonicwall Global VPN Client v.4.10.2.0428
WMDC is v.6.1.6965
now I'll admit I know nothing about windows mobile(tiny bit of CE tho) but did you check the network and sharing center and see if you can just select both and just right click em into a bridge?
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now I'll admit I know nothing about windows mobile(tiny bit of CE tho) but did you check the network and sharing center and see if you can just select both and just right click em into a bridge?
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Wouldn't have thought of that... I've never actually used bridging before.
Just connected my vpn, though, and looking in N&S Center, it looks like the Sonicwall vpn does not show up under the network connections. (Looks like Cisco VPNs do though, if only our office was using Cisco.)
Okay, ... turns out after digging in more, this was NOT because of the VPN vs. the cradle. The issue was actually that these dinosaur terminals apparently have trouble with DNS name resolution. When I replace the domain name with the IP address of the site, everything works fine. Wonderful. And that, is good enough. Don't care as long as it's working.