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Haven't been on the forum for a while...has anyone sorted out this anomoly with the instruction book saying you can turn the phone off by holding down the red button, whereas in fact it doeesn't. I remember someone saying that some phones did it, and then they withdrew the facility or something. I wondered if anyone has found a way of making it work. Thanks
it works for me; hold it for a few seconds; i am at pocket pc 2003 att
No, it definitely doesn't do anything. Is yours a US version or something? I bought mine in Engalnd shortly after they were released here in November 03. What is pocket pc 2003 att?
You talking about the XDA2 or the XDA?
On the XDA2, holding down the red phone button disconnects GPRS. It doesn't turn off the phone itself.
Correct, on the MDAII it does not switch off the phone
:idea: It is possible to turn the phone off using a button. I use Vito Button Mapper and have created a button macro to replace the stylus taps to turn the wireless function off.
well if flight mode can be choosen in settings where you map your buttons then yes
otherwise some programming would be required
No programming is required. The utility allows you to easily create macros containing stylus taps and assign that macro to a button. It turns the wireless function off in the normal way (not using flight mode).
Thanks
The macro thing sounds really good, thanks. Where did you get Vito Button Mapper from?
good old googles first 2 results on the string Vito Button Mapper
http://www.jenneth.info/archives/003010.html
http://vitotechnology.com/products/buttonmapper.html
The only thing is that with the new o2 rom update, you have to assign one button each to on and off instead of one button for both on & off. This is because in the connectivity 'bubble' the addition of "flight mode (wireless off)" shifts the link for the 'turn on/off' stylus tap down slightly.
I use the MDA Pro.
On the right side of the IR-port is a button to switch backlight on/off.
I can only manage to switch backlight off. What about you?
Is there a chance to give this button a more usefull function?
Btw. the button right of the camera button has assigned two funktions (press/keep pressed). Can this multifunction be added to other buttons?
yes that's what happens with my one too - i hope there will be chance to change the function - atm this button is pretty useless.
About one week after my post I use the button very often.
Mostly because the Universal does not switch "on" when I open the lid.
Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?
Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button
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its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.
Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.
I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V
I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.
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[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel
Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ
+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....
So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )
Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V
I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.
Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V
Thats what I would like to do......
Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ
IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V
This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...
Is is possible / any way to mod the power button??
like... trigger an event ( apps, wav/mp3 clip...etc) when it is being pressed??
guess it would be fun to play with
AE Button Plus seems to work on all buttons except the X panel button and the power button. But do you really want to modify that button that you use so often to switch the phone into standby?
I'm using the first state of the camera button for the alt+tab function from pocket plus. There you have a tip on a button that isn't used for anything as long as you are not using the camera.
programmatically this can be done, since it is possible to trap power on and power off event..
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AE Button Plus seems to work on all buttons except the X panel button and the power button. But do you really want to modify that button that you use so often to switch the phone into standby?
I'm using the first state of the camera button for the alt+tab function from pocket plus. There you have a tip on a button that isn't used for anything as long as you are not using the camera.
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x panel buton works as well, I have touch it hd installed and I'm using panel button for default first today screen of touch flo
Power red Led on X1
Since you are talking about the power button have any of you noticed that it have a red led?
I've seen mine lit some times, but only when my X1 runs completely out of battery, when I plug it to the charger the led it's on for 5 Min +- and I think the purpose of it is to announce that the device isn't charged enough to start as it wont star if I press the button, only when the standard 4 led's begin to do the usual animation it will start (by this time the power red led it off).
I've look in some manual's and didn't even find a reference to this led..
I think it would be great if we could port this led to do some notifications as it is way more noticeable than the regular led notifications.
really? but how?
I know nothing abt programming...seriously.....
I just wanna play a sound clip when it is pressed on and another one when off
I had noticed when I tried to update though sony ericsson's update tool, I was connected it with the computer by usb cable, and when I removed the batt. the LED lits
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3081934&postcount=1
new prog that uses the power button
I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de
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I have been using my Treo Pro for a couple of months now and have not managed to simply switch it off!?!
When I press the "power" button on the top shortly the screen goes off and when I press it longer only the phone function goes off.
To switch it off completely I need to take out the battery.
Is this a bug or a feature???? Anyway it annoys me...
Cheers
fredw_de
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Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!
Reset instead of "off"
Yeah, I was a bit concerned about not being able to turn off my Treo completely either. The only way to reset it was to remove the back cover and press the reset button on the back lower left side of the phone. But taking the back cover off over repeatedly - which is somewhat of a pain to do as you may have noticed - could possibly lead to the widely reported cracks in the phone. However, if you remove the stylus and look in the small opening there, you can see the reset button! I unfolded a paper clip and was able to reach the reset button without any difficulty. I've tried to do this with the stylus itself, but I feel it's just slightly too thick to get in there properly without bumping into the rear cover. Windows Mobile tends to need a soft reset every now & then to keep things running smoothly, so hopefully this helps you.
It should also be noted that whenever you do a Sprite backup it will actually restart the phone before and after the backup.
I just do a weekly Sprite backup and haven't had to do a soft reset at all yet.
There is no Treo as far as I know of that had the ability to turn off completely. Probably because they thought that flight modus was enough
To soft reset device is advised to install a small app rather than to take the back cover off every time. This is absolulty the most stupid place to put the reset button. If I take off the cover you might as well pull out the battery instead
I have this POS also! I noticed this inability to power the phone off as well. I was able to power mine off by holding down the top power button then afterwards I held the red end button down untill it turned off. Seems to work, correct me if i'm wrong. I put my treo pro back in the box because i'm selling it asap! This phone has a very nice look and feel but I hate the tiny cramped keyboard and the display is very dull and faded looking. My two biggest gripes which is more than enough for for to deactivate it and go back to one of my other phones... like the touch pro i'm using to type this post. Fare well Palm Treo Pro!
Dull and faded screen?
To each his own I guess. My screen is sharp and so bright I had to crank it way down.
It's weird that you can't simply turn it all the way off. But that does not bother me too much. I want my phone on all the time.
The keyboard is small.....but very usable...IMHO.
I think it's near perfect in size and functionality. The Pre looks sweet but I will be in no hurry to switch over.....I can wait.
I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me.
The only time I really ever want or need to shut my phone off is if it about to die and I want to shut my phone off in case I need it in an emergency to make a call. Not being able to do that has been incredibly inconvenient quite often lately. After a heavy day of usage my phone can die now by 7-8pm sometimes earlier. I had to go out and buy an i-go portable charger.
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I would strongly disagree about the screen being dull and dark, that is crazy to me...
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Same here.. ..I seemed that PocketNow received a Pro for a review suffering the same problems.
Can't complain on the screen on my Treo Pro! (It's not as colorful as my Nokia E71, but still good enough..
Power Off
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Yes there is no off, holding the top button is only radio on and off e.g flight mode, thats how it was designed?, great isn't it!!!!
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Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps
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Yes there is an Off for the Palm Treo
Pull the Battery
While holding the Top power button, Red Button & Green Button all at the same time, Put it back in this is put it into i think its called a Sleep Mode....
Hope this helps
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hahaha, the only thing left to do is find a third hand ;P
isnt there a poweroffwarning.exe in the windows folder , i know a link to that can turn off my diamond ?
In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.
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In order to shutdown any Windows at the bottom level there is a call to a function called ExitWindowsEx, which in Windows Mobile 6 the flag EWX_POWEROFF isn't supported.
So in fact the problem of shutting down Treo isn't a problem specific of the device, but with the OS itself. So any Windows Mobile 6 based device will not power off, unless you take out the battery.
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This explains the whole thing !!!
Apparently I have seen my HTC touch shutdown totally with the power button. This I believe is a "feature" with HTC phones. Since TP is actually HTC Panther, wonder if we can implement this...I will try and get an app around this and see what happens.
Go into the comm's menu and turn the phone off. Then lock it by hitting the red button once and hit the button at the top of the phone, left side of top.
Done.
You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.
OK, it does turn the treo pro off, but I can only turn it on by removing and putting back the battery.
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You can turn off a treo pro by doing soft-reset and quickly holding the red, green, and top power buttons simultaneously for 3 seconds. You can also remove and insert the battery and quickly hold those 3 buttons for 3 seconds. You turn it on by pressing the top power button.
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