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Tytn Noob

I'm getting my Tytn in tomorrow and need to know if I should update my roms and all that stuff. I had a 8125 and I know about tweaking, but I don't see a lot for the 8525. All I'm gonna use the phone for is playing games, watchin movies, texting, talking, cam and video.

The very best thing you can do is read through the wiki pages, familiarise yourself with the basic things we do to the hermes on here.
Whatever you do dont jump in the deep end and be one of the many people who have bricked thier devices because they didnt do things correctly.
IF you spot a ROM you like the look of take a look at my Upgrading Guides on how to SAFELY upgrade the ROMs.

Thanks for that sir. I'm gonna read the wiki again cause it helped me big time with my 8125. I never did anything with my rom and radio and all that. Should I start now? What do I need to look for in a ROM if I'm using the phone for games and all that type of stuff?

Christogq said:
Thanks for that sir. I'm gonna read the wiki again cause it helped me big time with my 8125. I never did anything with my rom and radio and all that. Should I start now? What do I need to look for in a ROM if I'm using the phone for games and all that type of stuff?
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That's well nigh impossible to give a straight answer to without doing a LOT of typing and reading up. You'll have to read up on what the "cookers" say about their ROMs in the upgrading board.
Personally I would not rush to upgrade. Get to know your device it's flaws and basic fixes first. THEN you will know what to look for in any new ROM.
Mike

mikechannon said:
That's well nigh impossible to give a straight answer to without doing a LOT of typing and reading up. You'll have to read up on what the "cookers" say about their ROMs in the upgrading board.
Personally I would not rush to upgrade. Get to know your device it's flaws and basic fixes first. THEN you will know what to look for in any new ROM.
Mike
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I'll have to do that. I honestly don't know what I'd be looking for anyway. As long as I can play games and watch movies, I'm straight.

Will the day come?

Maybe this is far fetched or not..
But will the day ever come or is it even possible that we eventually have a way... perhaps through the recovery menu or just generally through the phone..
To be able to easily select any of the themes, roms... etc from a list of all of the themes, roms.. etc and then install while our phone keeps everything critical to a user saved...
Maybe I am wrong.. I am not much a help to this community.. the best I can give are ideas.
I was thinking a program called ... "XDA" for example that would allow us to install any of this stuff more easily... would be f'n sweet...
Perhaps there could be money from advertising revs or just flat out charge a buck or two as well..
I'm not really sure... thoughts? Is it possible or not?
Excuse my ridiculous way of communicating.
PS... I would love to have easier access to what you guys are doing here, and I know I'd be fully willing to pay for an app that allowed simple installation of work that has gone down here.
It's been such a long time since I rooted and put in a rom as well as other things, I slightly don't look forward to doing it again as well as don't really know what new features would be gained.
I know i've only really had trouble with one thing on my phone and its the damn youtube app... 90% of the time video/audio doesn't play.. but if I try 10x to load the video it does eventually work.
I don't even know what i'm using any more.. I think I have fresh.
Again excuse my writing/thinking style... (full blown lunatic) DEAL WITH IT.

for themes, at least, use metamorph. you could easily come up with that through a google search and maybe 5 or 10 minutes of looking around. though you probably are gonna be using 1.6 aosp for theming with metamorph. so that means no sense.
roms.... not gonna happen lol.

Well essentially recovery is what you are talking about...
I mean in regards to cutting out the work to be able to flash a rom, you can't do it. You are always going to need root access, and really the reason I assume we use recovery in the first place is that it is not running on the ROM/etc, its outside what we are trying to mod.
I mean say someone came up with a simple apk, released to market and etc for installing roms. How would you run the apk? You can't flash over the rom while still using it.
Plus I would say it is probably a good thing for people to approach the learning curve to modding the device. Flashing while not understanding what you are doing and stuff could potentially be risky. Imagine an app in the market and how many people would brick their phone from doing things they would have originally learned not to do.

Cloned2 said:
Maybe this is far fetched or not..
But will the day ever come or is it even possible that we eventually have a way... perhaps through the recovery menu or just generally through the phone..
To be able to easily select any of the themes, roms... etc from a list of all of the themes, roms.. etc and then install while our phone keeps everything critical to a user saved...
Maybe I am wrong.. I am not much a help to this community.. the best I can give are ideas.
I was thinking a program called ... "XDA" for example that would allow us to install any of this stuff more easily... would be f'n sweet...
Perhaps there could be money from advertising revs or just flat out charge a buck or two as well..
I'm not really sure... thoughts? Is it possible or not?
Excuse my ridiculous way of communicating.
PS... I would love to have easier access to what you guys are doing here, and I know I'd be fully willing to pay for an app that allowed simple installation of work that has gone down here.
It's been such a long time since I rooted and put in a rom as well as other things, I slightly don't look forward to doing it again as well as don't really know what new features would be gained.
I know i've only really had trouble with one thing on my phone and its the damn youtube app... 90% of the time video/audio doesn't play.. but if I try 10x to load the video it does eventually work.
I don't even know what i'm using any more.. I think I have fresh.
Again excuse my writing/thinking style... (full blown lunatic) DEAL WITH IT.
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id just like to see more custom roms and themes come out like the gsm version has.

What I think the OP is talking about, is something like Preware for the Palm Pre, where you can download whatever it is to be modified through Preware, and then Preware reboots the phone/Luna (windows manager) depending on what is being modified, and then the changes are done. But then again, Preware can't change ROM's, only skins, etc.

G1 Needs Root and Froyo in Vegas. Any takers?

Hey guys.. Basically I'm still sort of new to Rooting, and flashing, and doing all these other things. I have the Nexus One and I was told it's much easier to root and unlock it than something like the G1. then doing the Danger SPL also has me worried.
Basically my mother has the G1, and she used to love it, but between using my N1, and it just getting older she's really starting to complain she wants a new phone.. The 1.6 Email client sucks compared to 2.2 & I'd really like to throw Cyan 5.08 or CM 6 on her G1.
Basically is there anyone in Vegas that would do this procedure for me for a small fee? I cant risk messing it up as she needs it for work n such. PM me if you're in vegas! Thanks!

Froyo isnt avalable for the G1 yet, there are a couple of smashed together builds, but nowt with everything working.

xguntherc said:
Hey guys.. Basically I'm still sort of new to Rooting, and flashing, and doing all these other things. I have the Nexus One and I was told it's much easier to root and unlock it than something like the G1. then doing the Danger SPL also has me worried.
Basically my mother has the G1, and she used to love it, but between using my N1, and it just getting older she's really starting to complain she wants a new phone.. The 1.6 Email client sucks compared to 2.2 & I'd really like to throw Cyan 5.08 or CM 6 on her G1.
Basically is there anyone in Vegas that would do this procedure for me for a small fee? I cant risk messing it up as she needs it for work n such. PM me if you're in vegas! Thanks!
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Your better off doing it yourself its not hard. (That's what she said)
And after your done rooting I suggest flashing a 2.2 (Eclair) ROM.
because their the most stable and fastest.

Well, basically I've rooted and flashed many rom's and updates on my Nexus One. But I had someone helping me from Androidcommunity.com and made it easy because we had a few snags and I'm new to fastboot and never done much in command prompt either.
I was told it's much harder, and easier to screw up when rooting a G1. and doing the Danger thing so i can use something like CM5 is even riskier.. Thats why i'd like to just get someone to do it.
as long as I follow instructions it's not to bad is it

If you look around in the development section...you'll see fireats got versdions of cm5 that don't require the dangerspl.
Also, if your mother is needing this phone for business....don't go messing around with it.
Oh and if by email you mean exchange, check out Touchdown in the Market.

This is the site i used when I rooted for the first time. it was easy.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/04/26/how-to-root-the-htc-g1dream/

Rooting the G1 is actually easier than a lot of other phones. The aforementioned 1-click method is probably the easiest way to go. Even though I no longer use my G1 as my daily driver, I still flash it pretty regularly. All my friends with G1's usually have me root their phones. So far I haven't bricked one yet so u should be all good. I'm in Vegas too so if u have any questions, lemme know. Having said that, you should be all good.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

I used this video to root my G1. YOUTUBE for the rescue!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8F7FVISb7w - part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H00kN2K2Q_8&feature=related - part 2
and remeber... the most hepful guide of all http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+To+Root+G1+in+One+Click.

i clicked your lmgtfy link just because i was curious if there was a 1 click procedure and was too lazy to type the search...+1 for you, next time hide the lmgtfy, it makes it that much better when they don't suspect it.

I personally used the guide on CyanogenMod's Wiki (im new on the forums so i cant link its addy but just google "Full Update Guide - G1/Dream Firmware to CyanogenMod" if youre interested) when i was first learning. It's been updated so everything is current. Its well written and pretty easy to follow, IMO.
Also, there is a shoutbox on CM's forums you could use to ask for help in realtime should you get in a jam. Just do your homework, be confident, and read the instructions!

[Q] State of Fascinate and Android

Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!

RayKinStL said:
Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Also a G1 and N1 owner. Be happy to help.
1) Wireless tethering is accomplished by myself without issue via Wireless tether app on the market. It's under the radar so to speak, but required an ad hoc connection
2) The correct lagfix is the voodoo lag fix, with the informative posts being found on the first page of this forum. Basically, Samsung used an older file system in their build, and voodoo updates it to ext4, which is alot snappier on the r/w side of things. Without it, you will encounter a slowing of your processes after a period of uptime, and usually a small freeze while the phone does things like install applications. The flip is that voodoo instructions should be read very closely, and adhered to. Failure to do so will result in phone borkage, and while always fixable, takes some time and patience to do so.
If you are unfamiliar with Odin, as I was at first, make damn sure you always use the PDA option. Failure to do so can result in terminal frustration, and possibly a close to true brick of the device.
3) There are no 2.2 ROMs yet. The Froyo OTA should hit between now and Christmas hopefully. I would like to think we will see some custom 2.2 ROMs, and maybe a CM port by the 1st. In the meanwhile there are several ROMs on this board which seem to work for the people who use them. I'm a proponent of stripping and customizing stock to suit your needs, making your ROM your own. I haven't seen enough included hacks in the available ROMs to warrant a need for them personally. We have some excellent kernels available, and some pretty slick themes and mods, which works well for me.
4) The phone has the best processor/gpu out currently. The display is fantastic, and I don't see a better device on the market currently. It does have downsides, most notably the GPS, which isn't a huge issue for me, but which also has a fix on the way, presumably to be included in the 2.2 update. I also have experienced a shortage in the Wifi reception comparative to my N1, having approx. half the range I previously enjoyed. This seems to me to be software related, so I assume it will be addressable.
If you plan to root and mod, especially if you plan to use voodoo, which I highly recommend, be careful in your reading of instructions and applications of procedures outlined in them. As great as this phone is, mistakes are costly in terms of confusion and time to correct.

Thanks for the reply. Im always impatient, and as such, have already rooted before even waiting for a first response I used the one click method though and it worked great, exactly as advertised. Root Explorer works, so I definitely am good there, and I snagged the latest build of wireless tether from the developer's page.
Now I need to get started with actually switching out the ROM. I really want all the VZ bloatware gone and Bing needs to go as well. So now I guess I have some reading to do on installing ROMs for this phone. Process seems a little more complex for this phone that it was for my N1, but that may be just because it was so long ago and I don't remember. Thanks for the response though!

I am in a similar boat I use the Droid 1 and my fascinate is at the post office waiting for me per usps tracking
I think for now I will root remove bloatware and Bing and role with that till 2.2 maybe touchwiz aswell as I hear u can save ram that way and I paid for launcher pro so might aswell use it.

Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up

I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!

I just received my fascinate friday, best buy sucked me in, lol, and I have no regrets. This phone is amazing, better than my d1 and d2. I too had a lot of the same questions about the lagfix and what not and would just like to say thanks, this thread def helped me understand. Can't wait until 2.2 roms
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

RayKinStL said:
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
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I posted on replacing the stock launcher with ADW or LP, as well as a couple lists of what is safe to remove. It's easy enough. I'm mobile our I would link the threads, but the replacement of bing its also covered in a post that includes some zips that will help.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

mrcroshaw said:
I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
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What is LPPlus? Is it worthwhile/simple to do?
To everyone else, I am glad I was not the only other one on the fence. XDA can be a bit scary sometimes, because you don't wanna ask something dumb/"noob"ish, but at the same time, if you haven't been there since the beginning, playing catch up can be hard. I will say everyone in the Fascinate threads has been nice and really helpful so far. I am slowly working through getting my phone the way I want it. Its just a shame that Verizon has to mess up the phone with all this garbage. I dont care much for the iPhone (design or software), but the one thing they do right, which comes at the cost of being "closed", is that they can dictate the user experience right out of the box. Unfortunately a lot of people are just too timid or incapable of doing the things we do to our phones to get them "right". Its a shame too, because people base their opinions on what Android the phone company gives you rather than what it can truly be. Regardless, I appreciate everyone's help and look forward to being a part of this community. I work IT at a school, so I know my way around a PC, but I wish I just knew more about Android coding and how phones work to be a true contributor to ROMs, etc. At least I know I helped a few people by speaking up and creating this thread. Thanks again everyone!!!
Edit: Im putting this in as an edit, but I just realized that LPPlus is probably Launcher Pro Plus. Have you used ADW? Is there a difference? What do you see as its advantages over ADW?

I personally (and i think most of us here would agree) don't have a problem with anyone asking "dumb" questions, if they haven't already been answered. the main issue is that most of the new posts are either "I didn't read the instructions and F*ed up my phone", "hey i heard this crazy rumor it must be true", "Can someone explain the same thing there are already 6 other topics about" and "how can we take X from this other phone and use it on mine". your questions are understandable and asking questions before you jump in saves a lot of headaches from having to fix something you tried without understanding it. and honestly, no need to be afraid to ask anything, worst case scenario someone like me *****es at you over the internet. who cares. =)

ROM/Camera Question

Hey guys!
I haven't been on in quite a bit.
I was browsing through some of the custom WP7 roms, and couldn't really find an answer to my question.
I'm using the original WP7 on my HD2. It's the one DFT released... The first WP7 rom for the HD2.
My question is this:
Has the camera been fixed in any of the newer ROMS?
I have no complaints with the original build other than the camera not working very well. Even shooting videos gives me focus problems.
Oh, and one other thing: My Zune music is always set to shuffle now. Can't seem to correct it.
Anyway, sorry if this has been asked and covered before. I just haven't been on the forums in a month or so.

This software works fine with the camera. Use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942605

spgi said:
This software works fine with the camera. Use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942605
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Thanks for the link. I'll give it a try.
Any idea why my Zune music won't stop shuffling?

nova hands said:
Hey guys!
I haven't been on in quite a bit.
I was browsing through some of the custom WP7 roms, and couldn't really find an answer to my question.
I'm using the original WP7 on my HD2. It's the one DFT released... The first WP7 rom for the HD2.
My question is this:
Has the camera been fixed in any of the newer ROMS?
I have no complaints with the original build other than the camera not working very well. Even shooting videos gives me focus problems.
Oh, and one other thing: My Zune music is always set to shuffle now. Can't seem to correct it.
Anyway, sorry if this has been asked and covered before. I just haven't been on the forums in a month or so.
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DOnt know about zune im afraid, doesnt happen to me....as for the camera, teh link supplied above is fine for most things, its not very intigrated but you cant have everything!
as for a fix, nope, and unlikely
as for the ROMs, they are all the same ROM, there is no development branchs available, and there are no tools available to build a full ROM yourself, dont expect anything like the amount of modding available to WM6 systems. its also unlikely we will get more compatible drivers for our device since its now quite old
personally, i think its very much a case of, you get what you pay for, if you want better then your going to need to spend some more cash an buy a WP7 device.

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DOnt know about zune im afraid, doesnt happen to me....as for the camera, teh link supplied above is fine for most things, its not very intigrated but you cant have everything!
as for a fix, nope, and unlikely
as for the ROMs, they are all the same ROM, there is no development branchs available, and there are no tools available to build a full ROM yourself, dont expect anything like the amount of modding available to WM6 systems. its also unlikely we will get more compatible drivers for our device since its now quite old
personally, i think its very much a case of, you get what you pay for, if you want better then your going to need to spend some more cash an buy a WP7 device.
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The ROM really works great. I have no complaints with it. Just seeing if there had been any progress with the camera, that's all.
This Zune shuffling thing is baffling me. I distinctly remember seeing something about it awhile back, but I can't find anything in the forums about it.
One day all my music played normally, and the next, it will only shuffle. Strange indeed.