Hi everyone,
I've tried just about everything I can think of, and no matter what I do, I can't get VPN to work over Wifi (on a P4000, which is the Canadian version of the Mogul/Titan). Does anyone have any experience/success with this?
I've tried searching the forums too, but couldn't locate a post on this topic. I can't be the only one wanting to use VPN over wifi?
Many thanks!
No I have not had any luck either. It also seems that you can not access the VPN using the phone as modem. It will allow you to securely connect, but when you try to link up with your computer, it gives an error message regarding an unidentifiable IP address. Sopmeone help!!!
I found this - http://securenet.niu.edu/vpnpptpwinmo5.shtml
It seems to be a weird workaround, definitely not convenient to connect. But, it doesn't actually connect for me. It starts the connection process, and I then get a username/password error or a "disconnected by the other party". So, it doesn't work.
Has anyone tried a 3rd party VPN client such as Bluefire VPN? http://www.bluefiresecurity.com/products/vpn/
It's quite expensive, though! 70$! We shouldn't have to pay for something that in theory, Windows Mobile already includes.
I didn't know that windows had it's own VPN installed in the OS so I actually have Bluefire installed. I had it on my Palm so it didn't cost my anything to switch the license over to my Titan. It works fine or me using Wi-Fi, EVDO, or 1x.
Telus blocks vpn access unless you have a VPN bundle, which costs 5$ i believe. I had to add it to mine. Other then that, i use openvpn talking to my router, works great
ghettofreeryder said:
Telus blocks vpn access unless you have a VPN bundle, which costs 5$ i believe. I had to add it to mine. Other then that, i use openvpn talking to my router, works great
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You have to pay to use VPN over Wifi? For cell-data, I'd understand, but I don't see how they can require us to pay to use our own WiFi networks.
I'm able to get the VPN to attempt to connect, however it always reports a username/password error.
I checked out openVPN but couldn't find a link for a Windows Mobile version. Can you post the link?
just type openvpn ppc into google, its the first result. As for vpn over wifi, i red it wrong, i was thinkin evdo
successful VPN over WiFi
You can successfully get on VPN through WiFi. GO to your VPN client click on connection entries drop menu at the top, then click modify, go to transport tab, and click to check the box enable trasport tunneling. Once you do this save it and you should be able to access it. I was successful.
DJ
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Hi,
I have a little problem that I am sure there must be an easy solution to!
I have set up a VPN on my Universal to connect to work. The problem is that my work's VPN server allocates me an ip address in the 10.x.x.x address range. All servers that I need to access behind the VPN have addresses in this range as well. Unfortunately, my ISP (T-Mobile UK), also allocates an address in the same range. Therefore, whenever I try to acccess a server at work, WM5 suffers confusion since it doesn't know whether to route the message through the VPN or directly out to the internet through the cellular modem.
I have been able to verify that the VPN thing works if my work network was on a different network address since initially, I was unable to VPN into my PC at home for the reason described above. I changed the ip addresses of all machines on my home network and now everything works fine at home.
Unfortuantely, I am unlikely to convince the IT people at work to change the address of all their machines. Similarly, I don't think I will have much success with T-Mobile and so is there anything I can change at my end to avoid this problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Mark
Narrowing the ip address may help, eg 10.0.0.1 is different to 10.1.0.1.
are you using this over wifi or gprs? if the phone provider is involved, I assume its gprs.
you could try and esablish your ip address as fixed rather than part of the pool, so the it guys assign a range for remote connections as say 10.0.0.100 to 10.0.0.150 as remote dial in connections, thus giving you a separate number.
the best way though I would have thought is for you to a fixed ip address known to you and the servers, and then hard type the ip address as your vpn settings, then establish that ip address as part of the exceptions settings.
in order to use exceptions though you have to know the range, or the exact ip address you will be assigned, and must be different to your telco.
not much of a solution, just some suggested areas to look at.
cheers
s.
hi guys, just out of curiosity what software are you using for VPN? on my laptop my company has installed cisco vpn, does it need to be a cisco vpn for wm5?? :?
From bad to worse...
Thanks for the reply Simon.
Unfortunately, I just went to try out some of your ideas and discovered that I can't get the VPN to connect at all now. It used to connect OK but then have routing problems whenever I tried to access anything. And my home VPN worked perfectly. Now, I can connect to neither.
I simply switched over to an O2 sim and with minimal configuration changes could verify that my setup still works OK and so it must be something to do with T-Mobile blocking ports. They weren't blocked yesterday!!!
Yesterday I "upgraded" my GPRS account from T-Mobile's Web'N'Walk to Web'N'Walk Professional and now I find I have this problem. Is this just a coincidence, or could it be that the Pro version has more severe restrictions than the consumer version?
I have emailed Customer Services to see what they have to say.
I will post back when I get a reply from T-Mobile.
mstar, I am no VPN expert, but for me, using a Windows XP hosted PPTP VPN it works after a fashion (above problems excepted!). I am using the VPN client built into Windows Mobile 5. I think you stand a good chance of getting it working using the built-in client.
Mark
I simply switched over to an O2 sim and with minimal configuration changes could verify that my setup still works OK and so it must be something to do with T-Mobile blocking ports. They weren't blocked yesterday!!!
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I've heard on the grapevine that T-mobile have explicitly refused certain types of traffic on the web-n-walk
VOIP is the biggy...
I was seriously thinking about getting signed up - but no point if IPSEC is a prob, as well as VOIP.
Not sure how they can tell it's Skype traffic :?
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/09/t-mobile_bans_voip/
for more info
An Update
An update on my VPN problem. Yesterday after total failure to get the VPN to connect, I emailed T-Mobile customer services.
Although they have not replied, when I tried it this afternoon I found that it was working again as before even though it had not been working first thing this morining. Of course I have not changed anythng at my end to cause it to break and then start working again (but they all say that, don't they!).
So, I don't know whether this was just a momentary fault, or whether T-Mobile have changed something to re-enable the VPN ports for me. I can now VPN in to my home PC, but the problem connecting to my work VPN with the 10.x.x.x address remains.
So, Sikkutz, depending on the address of the remote network, you may or may not be able to get a VPN to work using T-Mobile's Web'N'Walk.
By the way, my VPNs both use Microsoft's PPTP and not IPSec and so there may be different issues with that protocol.
I have discovered that O2 provides a separate acccess point, vpn.o2.co.uk, that causes a public ip address to be allocated to the device, ie not on the 10.x.x.x network. It would seem that this is designed to address this very problem. Does anyone know if T-Mobile can provide something similar?
Mark
There must be a solution
Hi!
I have the same problem with my Qtek 9000 (VPA IV). I can connect to my VPN Gateway but the routing into LAN failed. I get a 10.x.x.x address from Vodafone Germany and my LAN uses 10.98.8.X. :-(
But there must be a solution! My previous Qtek 9010 (VPA III) had the same problem, but it was able to route between the 10.-networks after a firmware-upgrade to version 1.40.01! But I don't no why!
What was changed in firmware to enable routing???
Daniel
i have the same issue aswell, I am reluctant to change the IP range of my machines as that usually causes trouble for the servers
Any other ideas?
Thanks
maybe stupid thing, but did you guys try dna forwarding (that is what I use from home office, not on pda to be honest..
Maybe I just did not get your point....
What kind of VPN server do you use? I'am using a Cisco PIX and use a PPTP VPN almost everyday. I can use the 10.1.x.x network at the location the PIX is located (this PIX is directly connected to the 10.1.x.x network).
I can't however use any of the remote offices using 10.2/10.3.x.x etc.
This is becaus of the lack of routing abilities in the PPTP implementation.
With an IPSEC tunnel (additional software needed) the remote offices can be reached without any problems.
I know that some IP implementation disallow routing between a public address and any 10.x address. To solve this you could give your VPN clients an address from a 10.x subnet .
hi sorry been away awhile,
I use the routing and remote admin snapin of Windows server 2003 to manage my VPN, I can connect fine using the phone as a modem with my notebook but as soon as I try accessing any URL/resource on my network it fails, e.g. we have a intranet site on http://servername but it wont open this up.
Any Ideas?
Hi,
I've got my O2 XDA Exec set up just how I want it with regard to connection to the internet, and my LAN via Wifi and GPRS - that's all great. It simply uses the connection that's available at the time, and accesses stuff just fine. I haven't had to mess about with "My ISP", or "Work" connections etc - I just have an "Internet" connection, and it seems to do the job, just like I would on a regular laptop.
However, on a regular laptop, I can set up a VPN connection that I dial at will that will connect me to either my home network when I'm out and about, or to a Windows 2003 Server I have co-located. The only problem is, I can't seem to get my Exec to be able to do the same. I can set up the VPN details under "Connections", no problem, and I can even tell it to connect, but looking at the syslog on the router I can tell that no traffic ever comes close.
I've tried a couple of 3rd Party VPN clients (Bluefire really screws up your machine if you try and install to SD Card!), but these seem to be geared up to more complex VPN setups, and don't seem to handle my setup which, I think I'm right in saying, uses PPTP - they all seem to want to use IPSec, but at least I did see them trying to access the VPN on the router.
Can anybody offer any solution?
Cheers,
Steve.
Hi Steve,
I'm currently trialing Bluefire and using it successfully to log into my work network. As you say it is for more complex VPN configuration but I must admit I know little about this. Having used Movian before in WM 2003, it is usual that loading the software to an SD card is not supported, it must be installed to the device memory. I have also trialed AnthaVPN but this screws up my Wireless/GPRS connections.
John.
Yes, I tried Antha too, and screwed stuff up, so I've had to restore from a backup.
The annoying thing is, the built in VPN client should work, I think, I just can't get it to work.
Any suggestions?
Cheers,
Steve
Can anyone connect to VPN (PPTP) using WM5 via wireless or GPRS?? When i use my old XDAIIi or II, i can connect by now using WM5 i cannot.
Hope those can connect please share. tks.
I can connect to a Windows 2000 PPTP VPN via wireless -- make sure that in Settings/Network Cards/Network Adapters, your network card is set to connect to the Work network.
Also, in Settings/Connections/Advanced/Select Networks, make sure that the lower droplist (private network) is configured to use the Work network.
Aside from those two items, I can't think of any other gotchas.
Ya still doesn't work......
do you know what the vpn device is that you are trying to connect to?
windows servers tend to be quite reliable. there are known issues with some checkpoint and cisco devices.
Hello,
I am having the same problem! I cant connect via VPN (PPTP) to my Windows Server 2003 RAS setup. It works perfectly fine on my laptop over the internet but when I try to connect using my Cinguar 8125 I get a generic "Invalid username/password' kind of error message. I have tried several differnt things, but I was wondering if there are security settings that are turned off or something like that? I actually have my RAS policy to let any device establish a VPN connection (obviously as long as it is authenticated) so I dont know what to do next... any suggestions??
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Hello,
I am having the same problem! I cant connect via VPN (PPTP) to my Windows Server 2003 RAS setup. It works perfectly fine on my laptop over the internet but when I try to connect using my Cinguar 8125 I get a generic "Invalid username/password' kind of error message. I have tried several differnt things, but I was wondering if there are security settings that are turned off or something like that? I actually have my RAS policy to let any device establish a VPN connection (obviously as long as it is authenticated) so I dont know what to do next... any suggestions??
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For me works fine. I have only 2 connections:
a) my isp, with gprs configuration for vodafone
b) my work network, with the vpn connection definition (ip address, user, passw and domain)
I have it set up the same way and I still get the password issue... what kind of policies do you have in RAS?
RickoT said:
I have it set up the same way and I still get the password issue... what kind of policies do you have in RAS?
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did you uncheck the security in the connection with the server?
take care with the name user, times exchange get crazy: server/user or only user name for the user field...
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afterlife said:
Can anyone connect to VPN (PPTP) using WM5 via wireless or GPRS?? When i use my old XDAIIi or II, i can connect by now using WM5 i cannot.
Hope those can connect please share. tks.
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Hi! I am not an Network expert at all, but here in Norway with one teleoperator we have to use a special access point name on My Work Network connection to get a public IP-address so Network accepts the connection. Perhaps nothing to do with your problem, but also we experience a lot of PDA users having no problem with pre-WM5 devices and much problems with WM5 devices and VPN
My searches on the web haven't yielded much help or information so I thought I would come to the experts...
I have a Treo 750 that I just "upgraded" to WM6 2 days ago. I noticed that DUN has gone away and was replaced by ICS. After configuring my laptop to use that instead of DUN I connected and was surfing the web. My problem now is VPN. I travel frequently (luckily I'm in the office until Jan.) and regularly used my phone to connect to the corporate network via VPN. I also work with a lot of other companies and have VPN access to their systems as well. Basically now I can open my Cisco VPN client, connect to a VPN gateway, authenticate, get assigned all the appropriate IP information, but cannot communicate on the network. What gives? Is there a solution to this? If not, what the heck was MS thinking when they did this!? My phone is basically useless for one of the major reasons I bought it...
Any help is appreciated!
thanks!
Ok, further searches found that DUN can be added back into WM6 via a cab that was posted here at the XDA forums. I installed it and the DUN service is now visible again. I unpaired by phone and laptop, re-paired, and included DUN. Now when I try to connect, I get the DUN connection box after the bluetooth connection is initiated but when I click DIAL I get the DIALING... prompt, followed by Error 678: The remote computer did not respond.
Anybody get this working on a Treo 750? Thoughts, ideas suggestions?
What is the ip address you are getting via the cisco vpn client
It maybe that it is in the same subnet as the ip address assigned to the pc from the wm6 ics. The ICS gives the address 192.168.0.1. and if your Cisco is also giving a 192.168 address then you will have two routes for the 192 address range thus giving you the problem when accessing hosts.
If this is the problem Im pretty sure you can change the address allocated via the ICS using a registry editor. If not you may be able to get work to use a different range for you on the cisco vpn.
Our corporate network is 172.x.x.x so it's nowhere near the 192.168.0.x assigned by the phone. When I look at the route in the VPN client I see 192.0.0.0, 10.0.0.0, and 172.0.0.0 so I am assuming 192 is my laptop, 10 is the phone, and 172 is the corporate network.
I'm guessing NATing is the problem. I've been reading that if I use a different APN (isp.cingular instead of wap.cingular) there is no NATing. I've tried both, and I've tried turning off and on the "force AT&T" proxy setting to no avail.
Tried the DUN cab hack that is floating around for WM6 also. The service is active again and I can also add Modem Link back in and my laptop sees my Treo as a modem but when I dial I get an error stating the remote computer did not respond. I'm guessing along with going from WM5 to WM6 AT&T also updated the radio so the old communications protocols don't work anymore?
Hello Sir,
I have exactly the same problem... I have successfully connected via VPN, however unable to communicate with any devices on that network... Then what is the use of VPN on the phone? I've tried searching online for answers, but no luck... People are having the same problem but no one knows how to solve it... I'll try and trouble shoot this problem more as soon as my exams are done...
Hi
Working successfully for me. I am using Imate jasjam wm6. Pc using cisco client connecting via ics on phone. I have telstra 3g connection tested ok on both telstra.internet (Nated ip) and telstra.extranet (real ip).
You are correct it may be an nat issue. Can you check that your transparent tunnelling is on as follows: right click on your connection entry in cisco client and select modify then transport tab. Check that enable transport tunneling is enabled ipsec over udp(Nat/pat).
The other thing to check is that the cisco vpn server aslo has transport over Nat on as well.
Also are you sure your corporate ip range is 172 or is that the range given by the cisco vpn to clients.
Transport tunneling is on (always was). I'll have to check with our network admin and check on the VPN server setting...I guess as long as I have connectivity back to the office, I don't need it that badly for all the customers I need to connect to at various times.
Yep, positive on the corporate IP. Right now it is 172.28.1.87 and I'm in the office.
Thanks for the help so far. Got any other suggestions on how I can troubleshoot further?
One other thought...should I modify the registry on the phone to assign a different IP address to my laptop? Would that help?
Same Problem
MX. I am having the exact same issue but with Securemote VPN. I've looked through the registry and found the assigned address, but I'm wary of changing anything until I can find some more information.
Anyone out there ever change the DHCP configuration for their phone?
Somewhat related question?
Im attempting to route my connection on my mobile through a laptop acting as a wan bridge, then uplinking it into the router. The issue Im having is that XP and WM6 both use the same IP Block. Ive read and read and cant find much to tell me how to change the WM6 IP BLock to something like 192.168.2.1 rather than the default 192.168.0.1
Does anyone have any pointers? Ive looked through the registry. There MUST be a simple way to change a default.
To clarify my setup, I am using ICS Via USB into a UMPC laptop running XP. The UMPC is set to share that same connection back out over Ethernet. The ethernet runs into my WAN Uplink on the router and then back out via wifi/rj-45
This setup works as I have done it using Wifi with other networks, and I can chose the "Lan3" to share under the advanced settings on the UMPC. The reason I dont just share out via Wifi from the start is that Wifi on my Kaiser and Raphael both make the device to hot to charge, thusly killing the battery within a couple hrs of sharing. If I share via USB , it stays pretty cool and still charges.
Anyone have any pointers?
I have already tried tricking XP into using the Lan on another block but as soon as you try to share the USB lan, it reverts back to the 192.168.0.1
The only way I can imagine is a registry modification or a program change in ICS.
Thanks Much!
So the title is pretty in depth, but I am a newbie to VPNs and need some help.
I live in NJ, big NY Rangers fan and I currently do not have an satellite or cable service so I rely on my psvue subscription and amazon fire tv which has Kodi on it.
I created a VPN with ExpressVPN, downloaded their software app on my mac and have the VPN up and running (on my mac). I don't have a compatible router to run the VPN through, so I read that I can use my mac to share the VPN to the amazon fire tv. How do I go about successfully doing this? ExpressVPN said my Mac has to be hardwired via ethernet to my existing router, is this true?
I also wanted to know that if I successfully get the amazon fire tv connected to my VPN connection, will my kodi app run off of that connected VPN or do I have to manually configure the VPN via Kodi as well? I am thinking that having the VPN connected on the Fire stick will be sufficient enough for Kodi.
T
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.blinkt.openvpn
If you pay for a vpn service that doesnt allow you to use an openvpn client, stop paying for that service..
Using the mac doesnt make that much sense, since the firetv can connect to vpn services on its own. If you WANT to use the mac you would connect it to the internet via lan and create a hotspot on the wlan side on which the firetv then connects. So look for mac hotspot programs if you absolutely want to do it that way.
The app above works witha ll apps as soon as it connects, so no extra setup in kodi needed. Successfully tested under 5.0.5.
harlekinwashere said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.blinkt.openvpn
If you pay for a vpn service that doesnt allow you to use an openvpn client, stop paying for that service..
Using the mac doesnt make that much sense, since the firetv can connect to vpn services on its own. If you WANT to use the mac you would connect it to the internet via lan and create a hotspot on the wlan side on which the firetv then connects. So look for mac hotspot programs if you absolutely want to do it that way.
The app above works witha ll apps as soon as it connects, so no extra setup in kodi needed. Successfully tested under 5.0.5.
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Well How would I know if ExpressVPN allows me to use an openvpn client? I thought the fire tv couldnt connect to vpn on its on so that is why I was having my mac come into play, but it is getting a little too complicated for me. So I download this app from the google play store via my android device? If you can give me some more direction I would greatly appreciate all of your help!
Edit: I can use my android device and sideload the app via AGK Fire...learning a little more each second
You should be able to setup a VPN through a Router, even the crappy Ones issued by your ISP.
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You should be able to setup a VPN through a Router, even the crappy Ones issued by your ISP.
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hmmm I will have to look into that with my ISP router, thanks
I know how much you all love reddit QA culture - but
Using a VPN client on the device itself i the best way to realize this.
Setting up a VPN on your router is a worse way to realize this, mostly favored by people that read it once, and never tried it. Its only viable if your router supports selective tunneling, so you can tunnel the traffic from one ip through your vpn, but not from others. Which is only possible on newer dd-wrt or equivalent routers, because on older build one of the necessary commands broke - setting up your whole internet to go through the vpn is like paying for worse internet.
The router most likely is the slowest piece of equipment in your chain, so switching it off and on again is a chore - believe me I tried to make it work for three days. Interfacing with the router isnt great either.
So yes, I bet 90% of the people advising you to use a VPN connection on your router, have just read it somewhere ad thought it would be great to repeat it in every context.
Also ISP router - haha, yeah - good luck.
The only way VPN on a rounter makes sense is if you are on on of the _recent_ open source routers, and can spend a day to get either openvpn or pptp running there (no documentation from most VPN vendors) and selective tunneling to the Fire TV - or if by some really strange luck, have bought a commercial router that has VPN tunneling to one specific device built in.
Imho bad idea, even worse in practice (routers UI to switch -), but the favorite of the collective knowledge crowd that hangs out on reddit and repeats what people before them have said. Because they just went with what sounded right.
Does your VPN provider support Open VPN connections? Well, shouldnt that be something that you ask yourself before choosing a VPN provider? Also - dont ask the internet, if your provider supports it, ask your provider - again, you are paying the provider, so use its support infrastructure to ask the important questions.
The issue with the "what the most eazy" mindset, when it comes to VPNs or interoperating devices, is that you have to rely on open standards (like Open VPN) and not brand, or best vendor app. Its a strange concept, but actually knowing about stuff, before going into a monthly payment plan - is actually a good thing...
cheers h.