Hi,
Since I've installed WM6, I have a problem with the BA that will drain the battery really quick (less than 1 day).
The fact is that, when it goes to standby mode (after the minute rate set up in the settings area), after some minutes or seconds, depending on the case, it goes on again by itself.
It's the second time I've installed the rom and it still doing the same
Any idea?
Thanks
Its the BT on?
DANDANA said:
Its the BT on?
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Yes, u think that's the cause?
Yes, i'm sure. Looke for BigMike fix to find more.
i hv the same problem but bt is off.so y it is so?????
AFAIK the BT on is the only wakeup bug for WM5 and WM6 on BA. Maybe some third software you use is waking the device? Its a random problem?
Maybe it's a network thing....?
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Hi all!
With the latest Dopod's ROM it was nice for the first month, but now I have strange behaviour.
Sometimes the device does not return from standby/suspend mode. It does nothing at all if I press the power button. The LEDs are blinking as usual and if I call my mobile from other phone, I got no answer signal, whi my Prophet does not ring at all, means that GSM part works. Any alarmas and notifications fails to appear, as well.
I noticed, that the prsence of any extra unclosed applications increases the chance to hang. So far, I have no idea how to workaround it...
Any ideas? Is someone have the same problem?
It happens to me with my JAMin with both the old and the new WWE rom. somebody exolain it with the backlight settings, but nobody really understand why it happen
Someone alse have this problem?
I also had this issue for a time. I performed a hard reset and it stopped happening, so I am going to assume that it probably had something to do with some of the software that I had installed on it. My money is on SPB PocketPlus. I've not installed it since the hard reset and it hasn't happened since.
Any extra ideas?
I have the same behaviour since the very first day i upgraded to the latest rom.
I find that it happens regularly if it does, meaning you soft reset the device to get access again and then sure enough one hour later again the same behaviour. I have been on travel the last weeks, where i did not have a chance to sync the device and I have not experienced this behaviour at that time.
Maybe it has something to do with the Sync Process.
I hope we can dig into this a little more because it is really annoying. Especially if you consider that the phone does not ring anymore so you never know if someone calls or not.
Cheers Ulf
Password?
Have you set a password on your phone? If so, then remove the password and see if it makes a difference.
Yes I use the Password Funtcion on the PDA part and also for the SIM card.
I will try to turn off the PDA password and see what happens.
I keep you posted.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Ulf
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Hi All,
turning off the PIN function has solved the problem. The effect is reproducible.
Raised a next question though:How to protect from your wife sniffing into your private appointments without using the PIN?
Gruss Ulf
I have no used any passwords, but has the problem. I've noticed that it happens when the phone is charging. But not only that.
i had the same issue...i read before somewhere in the other forums...(maybe this forum but couldn't find it) to adjust the backlight and standby time to the same value..that fixed mine and hope will work on yours.
thycpt737 said:
i had the same issue...i read before somewhere in the other forums...(maybe this forum but couldn't find it) to adjust the backlight and standby time to the same value..that fixed mine and hope will work on yours.
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Thanks great, so far it helps. If I got the bug agait - I will post. BTW, on the Dopopd's 2.15 it is the only reason for softreset, all the rest works fine!
I have the same problem with prophet touch IX and VIII.
Sometimes, after the device was set to standby (or the display was disabled after some minutes), I can't enable it by pressing the powerbutton.
It seems to have contact to the GSM net (you can call the phone, but it won't ring).
ActiveSync also recognizes the phone, but won't connect.
Maybe this happens less often with battery ~70-100%, but I'm not sure.
The problem occured some weeks after installing Touch IX, and didn't disappear after changing to Touch VIII.
With pdaviet 6, there wasn't anything like this (only the known bootscreen-freeze-problem).
Any ideas?
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
I tried searching for the reason/solution but could not find anything.
Basically my device keeps truning on. I read somewhere that it's due to a fault in the radio rom. Does anyone have any knowledge/solution for this?
Thanks
It seems very strange to me, which programs are installed in your phone?
If it's related to radio you can just try to flash the latest radio 1.38.00.11 (ripped by Pof) without losing any of your data to see if this resolves your problem.
pof's Trin_Radio_1.38.00.11_Only_SSPL rip
Thanks
I'll try this later and report back...
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Thanks
I'll try this later and report back...
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Do you have Exchange (Push) email? Do you have set email receiving to happen after a certain amount of time?
No, good suggestion but it's not the email settings.
I've put the newer radio rom on and so far no turning on. But it's only been a few hours so far...
Still turns on - oh well !
I have this same problem with my Imate Jam, my phone is set to check email every 15mins and I think thats when it turns itself on. But this must be a bug because it drains the battery so much faster especially it the screen gets random inputs when it is in your pocket constantly.
Another suggestion - do you use Sprite Backup Battery Monitor ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=606
or any other Weatherplugin which is checking every minutes the forecast ?
rdu85 said:
Another suggestion - do you use Sprite Backup Battery Monitor ?
http://www.spritesoftware.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=606
or any other Weatherplugin which is checking every minutes the forecast ?
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I have the same turning on issue. On mine, I know it is due to the email that is getting downloaded. Mine doesn't always do it, sometimes if I've been using wifi and turned it off, the phone will connect and check mail without coming out of standby. I haven't been able to track down exactly how to fix it. I do use DeviceLock which locks the screen so that if the phone wakes up for any reason when it is in my pocket or my backpack, buttons don't get pressed by accident.
My Dopod is turning on too and it really pisses me off.
I can be sure at 12:00am it will turn on every time.
I have reduced my power off time to 2min.
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I tried searching for the reason/solution but could not find anything.
Basically my device keeps truning on. I read somewhere that it's due to a fault in the radio rom. Does anyone have any knowledge/solution for this?
Thanks
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Before doing anything like flashing a different rom,start by eliminating some things
First remove your sim card and turn off the phone if it turns on by itself then its not network related nor has anything to do with your email settings.
Second try a different simcard and set the network manually to GSM and disable GPRS.
Third remove all programs that you've added(Hard reset if you have to).
Finally and if none of the above work flash a different rom.
I don't know much about anything but I noticed that I don't the sleep of death problem unless someone calls me when in standby mode. Most of the time everything is OK but a bout once a day here it comes. Now, I'm in Israel and the radio version seems to be ancient so it might not be the problem for everybody but who knows?
Ermmmm
My money is still on ActiveSync running as a schedule..... not likely to be Radio stack related I'm afraid.
are you using spb mobile shell??
elivne said:
are you using spb mobile shell??
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I'm using SPB Mobile Shell. Mine randomly freezes and I get the SOD all the time. Think it's related?
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I'm using SPB Mobile Shell. Mine randomly freezes and I get the SOD all the time. Think it's related?
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yup.
upgrade to 1.5 - it's much more stable.
Personally, I think it's related to the battery. More specifically, how the battery charges.
If I perform a soft reset after charging the battery, I never get the 'sleep of death' problem and never have sudden battery drainoffs. If I don't do a soft reset after charging, within an hour I'll be unable to wake it up again. If I for some reason don't touch it for 8-9 hours, I can find the battery has drained.
The device is also a lot hotter after charging it. During the charging cycle the device doesn't get warm, only afterwards. This says to me that there's some problem where the device still thinks it is plugged in and ends up putting too much of a drain on the battery.
It's a good idea to perform a soft reset after every charge cycle. If you do this I think you'll see this problem disappear.
Interesting idea Doom Tints
This battery problem would explain some people's problems with leaving the phone charging overnight (i.e. halfway through the night the battery finishes charging and then the problem occurs), but other's observations (including mine) wouldn't fit this explanation.
SOD is happening across all ROMs, both WM5 and WM6 - but not predictably. The fake-server trick works for some people, but not for others. Some people say SPB software is the culprit, but there are plenty of people without SPB software who get SOD.
Could it perhaps be not the radio exactly, but the radio and how it works with the OS? For example, maybe people who flash to WM6 but leave an older radio version on their machine...?
Or could we perhaps be dealing with multiple problems that have the same symptom?
I'm not sure that you understood what I said judging by your response. It doesn't lock up WHILE charging, but sometime AFTER charging.
Just for giggles, try what I suggested -- perform a soft reset after the next time you charge it and report back the results.
I dont have the problem and this is what i have installed:
herm200(tytn)
all black versions and now majik.
radio 1.41(and had all the older versions since 1.27 - never froze).
i charge it over night and no freeze.
I used push mail and stopped(no change in freezes - none!)
once a day i SR to get leaked memory back.
spb shell 1.5
htc home plug
o2plus
sktools
resco file explorer(without the today plug)
spb time
all are working - had no freeze months.
Yes, but you are soft resetting every day.
I don't have any spb programs and in fact all I have is VC, PI and some medical programs. Don't have any battery issues and have not tweaked the phone at all - have all original ROM and radio. Left to charge for the night without any problem but then again nobody called me
I don't know
My Opinion
been running through threads all over, just found out that there is no solution, because when a program pushes the unit to wake up from standby it freezes, this program can be weather, alarm, mail, active sync, and even a CALL can cause this, so it's a permanent bug in wm6 and PPC :-(
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I don't know much about anything but I noticed that I don't the sleep of death problem unless someone calls me when in standby mode. Most of the time everything is OK but a bout once a day here it comes. Now, I'm in Israel and the radio version seems to be ancient so it might not be the problem for everybody but who knows?
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Yes you were right;
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
Hi all,
Dont know if this is a known error in the original ROM but my telephone crashes when it is in standby mode.
It looks like the problem is in the power manager.
SPECS:
Diamond 2
OEM UK ROM
Test Steps taken:
- in power manager auto standby mode OFF
: No problem phone stays alive
- auto standby mode OFF, manually brought into standby
: Problem after 5 - 10 minutes, phone does not come out of standby mode, reset needed
- auto standby mode ON
: same as above
- auto standby on, and manually brought uinto standby
: same..
this doesn't sound like a HW problem to me, but is there a known sollution ?
Thanks in advance..
Grtz.
i had the same problem before -- but with o2 stealth. and i was able to fix it by disabling the password lock in settings. i'm not sure if this will also work on diamond2. no harm in trying.
The sounds a little bit like the Standby of Death issue except I only used to get it every couple of days because I would spend a portion of my week in a strong 3G area the SOD coincided with me being in a weak 3G area. Try this
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Doompie said:
Hi all,
Dont know if this is a known error in the original ROM but my telephone crashes when it is in standby mode.
It looks like the problem is in the power manager.
SPECS:
Diamond 2
OEM UK ROM
Test Steps taken:
- in power manager auto standby mode OFF
: No problem phone stays alive
- auto standby mode OFF, manually brought into standby
: Problem after 5 - 10 minutes, phone does not come out of standby mode, reset needed
- auto standby mode ON
: same as above
- auto standby on, and manually brought uinto standby
: same..
this doesn't sound like a HW problem to me, but is there a known sollution ?
Thanks in advance..
Grtz.
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Hi
Disable the phone radio so it isn't connected to the nework, then try again, does it still fail to come out of standby? With a stock ROM which you say you have anyway do a hard-reset to wipe any programs or settings you may have made and try again, does it still fail to come out of standby?
If yes it is a hardware problem, most likely faulty RAM that can't keep the contents stored in standby mode when it's being refreshed at a lower rate and voltage.
Regards
Phil
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Hi
Disable the phone radio so it isn't connected to the nework, then try again, does it still fail to come out of standby? With a stock ROM which you say you have anyway do a hard-reset to wipe any programs or settings you may have made and try again, does it still fail to come out of standby?
Phil
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Good thinking Phillip, If he can reproduce the problem consistantly within 5 - 10 minutes then the phone radio might not be at fault in this instance, the quickest way to tell would be to disable the phone radio as you quite rightly suggest.
In my limited expierience with the SOD I could not reproduce it at will within 5-10 minutes, it just happened randomly 2-3 times over the course of a week and coincedently when I was in a weak 3G area (not such a coincedence! after all)
Admittedly I had the SOD only once again on my Tytn II in the 1.5 years after I changed the phone band settings from auto to GSM only, so it can happen for other reasons but it should be very rare indeed.
If you read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously everything I've written above only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
Hi everyone
I have a strange problem since a couple of days. If turn my HD2 off (standby) the wifi connection remains alive. This naturally is a massive battery drain and the only thing I can do, is to manually turn it of whenever I don't need it. Does anyone have a solution for this problem.
After this problem appeared I thought I might have accidentally turned on the WiFi Standby tweak in BsB Tweaks. It appears turnoff in BsB Tweaks. So I thought I might try turning it on an then off again to clean up the registry, but I don't seem to be able to turn it on so it sticks. I'm thinking maybe BsB Tweaks isn't actually showing whether it's turned on or not. Does anyone know the reg-key concerned, so I can check manually whether it's turned on.
Thanks for your help
Greetings
chuelibrueder
I have exactly the same problem. Have you found a solution?
I had this problem today where it constantly kept trying to connect and my battery went from 73% to 4% within a few hours, even though i selected cancel.
do you have bsbtweaks installed? there is a tweak in there that lets wifi stay on when on standby, perhaps that is active?
this is not issue this is normal , as they make the end key closes the screen they should have stretched the wifi turn off time after standby so wait from 2-3 minuites after going to stand by and you will find it closed automatically
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this is not issue this is normal , as they make the end key closes the screen they should have stretched the wifi turn off time after standby so wait from 2-3 minuites after going to stand by and you will find it closed automatically
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it was doing exactly how you say before, but it now never disconnects. I keep forgetting to turn it off and it's such a battery killer. "keep wifi connection in standby" is not active under BSB Tweaks by the way.
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do you have bsbtweaks installed? there is a tweak in there that lets wifi stay on when on standby, perhaps that is active?
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BSB Tweaks, my wifi in standby option is also off so no real solution yet
Ding...has anyone got a solution for this yet?
chuelibrueder said:
Hi everyone
I have a strange problem since a couple of days. If turn my HD2 off (standby) the wifi connection remains alive. This naturally is a massive battery drain and the only thing I can do, is to manually turn it of whenever I don't need it. Does anyone have a solution for this problem.
After this problem appeared I thought I might have accidentally turned on the WiFi Standby tweak in BsB Tweaks. It appears turnoff in BsB Tweaks. So I thought I might try turning it on an then off again to clean up the registry, but I don't seem to be able to turn it on so it sticks. I'm thinking maybe BsB Tweaks isn't actually showing whether it's turned on or not. Does anyone know the reg-key concerned, so I can check manually whether it's turned on.
Thanks for your help
Greetings
chuelibrueder
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Check this registry value...
HKLM\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms:HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended
It should be 0 to turn off wifi when in standby.
Hope this helps
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Ignore the space in "HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended" above. It's this forum - it's always doing that
I've found this:
HKLM\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms:SuspendOffDelayInterval
I've set it from default 30000(30 seconds) to 5000 (5 seconds) and WiFi does restart when I power-on after 5 seconds.
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I've found this:
HKLM\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms:SuspendOffDelayInterval
I've set it from default 30000(30 seconds) to 5000 (5 seconds) and WiFi does restart when I power-on after 5 seconds.
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that didn't help me, still stays connected in standby.
This thread is interesting. I, on the other hand, would like to keep wifi ON while in standby (with screen off). For certain programs such as Pandora, I would like it playing in the background but have my screen off.
I am having the opposite issue. I can't seem to make it do that given the tips I found already on this thread.
I tried changing the following from 0 to 1 but noticed that when I poweroff phone, it goes back to being 0. Can anyone help me out? Sorry I don't mean to take over your thread. Maybe I should start a new similar thread with an opposite meaning..
HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended