is my phone himalaya or alpine - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

hi
i have i-mate pda2 mobile
it is just like the picture of himilaya
that shown in the main page http://forum.xda-developers.com
is it hamilaya or aplone
it is PH10D

looks mean nothing
specs mean everything
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Himalaya
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Alpine
if it got wifi in it without the use of a sdcard then it's alpine

Himalaya is PH10B

ather90 said:
Himalaya is PH10B
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or PH10A. As far as I know only different LCD screen and different LCD connector

Related

Whats the difference between Himalaya and Magician?

Yes, i know it's smaller - but:
What will i loose if i swap my Himalaya with Magician?
As far as i can see, Magician have everything Himalaya has, but with a better camera, and smaller size.
Are the any reason i would want Himalaya rather than Magician?
GeeZuZz said:
Yes, i know it's smaller - but:
What will i loose if i swap my Himalaya with Magician?
As far as i can see, Magician have everything Himalaya has, but with a better camera, and smaller size.
Are the any reason i would want Himalaya rather than Magician?
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The Magician has 57MB of memory. The Himalaya has 128MB
The Magician has 7.29MB of Storage Memory. The Himalaya has 15 MB.
The Magician comes without craddle et. The Himalaya has one as you know.
The Himalaya has a bigger screen. Much bigger and better for internet viewing...
That's their differences. I own them both. The Magician doesn't deserve the fuss around its name... I still prefer the MDA II...

Club i-mate sucks...

Itried to become a member to the club i-mate.
But i can´t, because my device is called Qtek S100 not i-mate jam, It´s the same device, but the only says that i have to contact the store from where i bought it, but what can they do?????? Change the name on my device????
Conclusion:: Club i-mate sucks. :evil:
Club I-Mate is only for I-Mate Jam owners. Not for MDA Compact or Qtek owners.
Although clubimate does have many issues due to which you can fairly conclude that their support sucks, your problem however does not seem to be an issue with imate but rather with Qtek.
cubimate is for people who have bought an Imate branded device and you clearly have not. So you should be looking for a clubQtek (if one exists)... and if there is none then its the Qtek people you should be complaining to.
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
pelle68 said:
Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Imate and Qtek buy the magician from HTC and rebrand it. Since they sell independently and are rivals, Imate has no business serving Qtek customers.
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Ι understand what you say, but think about I-mate. Why allow you to enter in their forum, get their know how, their info, their applications, their firmware... when you haven't paid them for buying the S100???
It's all about branding... I also have a Qtek 2020, which is the MDA II... I cannot enter in the i-mate forum like you...
Don't bother though there is nothing important to find there... The firmware updates cannot be loaded to your S100. You can download them from an official Qtek website... We in Greece have one: www.qtek.gr
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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No, the difference is also in the content of the Extended ROM. For the Hardware, it is HTC that you can contact...
If you have a PC running Windows, you can't say that unix sucks, right ?
Fairiness in bussiness
You are all right!
I've learn the hard way that Qtek IS NOT iMate. I ordered an XDA-II from Expansys, that was out-of-stock and re-routed to be iMate, that ended up being a Qtek 2020, the price difference was even in my favour, Right?
W-R-O-N-G!!!
Qtek is almost a fake brand, (at least for my WWE version): No web page, no support, no upgrades, no forum, no----- NOTHING!
More than a year later, I gave up trying to get BT Handsfree support for my Qtek 2020, and get BT syncing at same time, so I ordered an iMate JAM from Expansys, Guess what? I just received a call from Expansys, offering me to switch to a Qtek S100!
I REFUSED!
I prefer to wait two more weeks rather than feel myself again in the wild, with no one "official" to help (Thanks ONLY to XDA developers and you guys here)
Conclussions:
HTC really sucks, since they are the ones who know how "hadicapped" their devices are, and provide no help.
Qtek sucks too, since they are making money for branding the devices and letting them unsupported.
Expansys sucks a bit too, though just for being un-informative and not advising their custommers that "manufacturing" is part of the thing, but "support is paramount" when you are talking about really new tech products that are going to need a lot of tweaking.
iMate might have their share too, but obviously not for my choosing of my Qtek 2020.
And iMate is even cheaper!
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Mythozz said:
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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Ι understand what you say, but think about I-mate. Why allow you to enter in their forum, get their know how, their info, their applications, their firmware... when you haven't paid them for buying the S100???
It's all about branding... I also have a Qtek 2020, which is the MDA II... I cannot enter in the i-mate forum like you...
Don't bother though there is nothing important to find there... The firmware updates cannot be loaded to your S100. You can download them from an official Qtek website... We in Greece have one: www.qtek.gr
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Any chance you could tell us what is new in the firmware available on http://www.qtek.gr/s100_firmware.html?
It seems to be of a later version than that of my swedish Qtek, and I would very much like to know what is in the update so I know if I should bother calling Brightpoint and ask them to put it on their web site.
Thanks!
Babelfished:
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Qtek S100 Firmware Update
ATTENTION! WITH THE UPGRADE ARE EXTINGUISHED THE DATA OF YOUR APPLIANCE! CONTACTS, PROGRAMS, SOUNDS OF CALL, PICTURES, VIDEO THAT CAN EXIST IN YOUR APPLIANCE, WILL ERASE!
Who can use Greek?
The Greek publication has been manufactured by the Ace-Hellas. The Greek publication is been disposed only for appliances that have been bought from the Ace-Hellas or her network of resellers.
What it needs I am careful?
The Qtek fortj'zej when becomes the upgrade. It should you attend it is completely fortjsme'no front you begin the upgrade.
That does become the upgrade firmware?
Attend to have passed the Activesync and exists communication with the computer. It is proposed you use some computer with Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Terminate any program you have open! Afterwards simply you execute the file that you lowered/you will lower and you follow the directives in your screen. If you face problem with the upgrade you try in some other computer. When it finishes the upgrade it will be supposed you realise hard-reset (the photograph in the end of upgrade in your computer, you shows how him makes).
I began the upgrade and in the middle to me it was cut the current and extinguished the computer (or more simply failed the upgrade).
Do not worry. The Qtek has his bootloader therefore it will be supposed after a reset you see white screen (the screen is not litted up therefore sees carefully from near distance) and is entered Serial.
1. You remove the Qtek from the base. Remove the battery for 30 seconds and xanatopoceti'ste.
2. You begin your computer regularly
3. You activate the Qtek and place in the base. The clue Serial should change in USB.
4. You execute again the upgrade.
I began the upgrade for 2nd time but failed again.
Try in some other computer. Try in computer with Windows 2000 or XP. The upgrade does not probably work rightly in Windows 95,98,ME. Also a other factor are the problematic USB Controllers (eg VIA)
Exist some does background for what it changed in the new publication?
We unfortunately do not have the changes that realises the Qtek. It follows however background for Greek:
1.1.1 (03/02/05)
- With publication 1.06 is corrected the problem with the MMS in the network of Cosmote. - Correction of orthographic errors and other errors in fo'rmes.
- Automatic regulations GPRS Internet/MMS and on the 4 networks of mobile telephony. In the Q-Telecom exists only service MMS. Attention! It should you have activated your services from pa'roho'!
- Choice permanent report in the SMS. Can activate the possibility in each new SMS is preselected the report. This him you will find in the Regulations in the choice for Language.
1.0.0 - Initial Publication (20/12/04)
pelle68 said:
outz said:
funny... i drive a nissan, and it broke down. toyota sucks!
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Hmmm. Since when is Toyota and Nissan the same???
The difference between i-mate jam and the qtek s100, is mostley cosmetic, they are made in the same factory, it´s the same on the the inside, Atleast that´s what the Swedish manufactur said.
The biggest difference is the text on the outside.
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You mean Nissan and Toyota aren't the same? They're both transportation devices, aren't they?
Same goes for Qtek branded phones & I-Mate branded phones. The guy who started this thread is pissed because he owns a Qtek branded phone, yet can't log into the I-Mate website to get support for it? Come on.
Toyota and Nissan are by far more different from eachother than the Qtek and iMate.
If you need to use cars for your example you might want to go for something like the Opel Agila and Suzuki Wagon R. Built by the same company, looks identical, but marketed by different companies.

Pen to replace Stylus?

On my previous HTC phones (Himalaya & Blue Angel) I've bought Pens (with writable ink) to replace the stylus.
Have searched eBay (my usual source) without sucess; does anyone know of a source?
TIA
Peter
Whatever the source is. Please don't double post.
the stuff from ebay is like the £1 shop here. The stocks aren't aways around when you need them. You ought to wait for a week or so before going back to check it out again.
Try this
http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/product.php/27989/0/
hanmin said:
Whatever the source is. Please don't double post.
the stuff from ebay is like the £1 shop here. The stocks aren't aways around when you need them. You ought to wait for a week or so before going back to check it out again.
Try this
http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/product.php/27989/0/
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Thanks for your link; have ordered
Interesting that http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/ do not list it, or any other, pen/styli as suitable for the M500 or M600
M500 & M600 Styli are NOT interchangable - either way - hope they fit!
Tomtooter said:
Interesting that http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/ do not list it, or any other, pen/styli as suitable for the M500 or M600
M500 & M600 Styli are NOT interchangable - either way - hope they fit!
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M500 is a Magician, which is a i-mate jam. So, these
http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/search.php?xSearch=stylus+jam&submit=Search
for i-mate jam should fit your M500 nicely. But I've just checked, they don't seems to have anything for your M600. Guess you have to look for it somewhere.
hanmin said:
But I've just checked, they don't seems to have anything for your M600. Guess you have to look for it somewhere.
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That's THE reason I also posted my question on the Prophet Forum - LOL
hanmin said:
Tomtooter said:
Interesting that http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/ do not list it, or any other, pen/styli as suitable for the M500 or M600
M500 & M600 Styli are NOT interchangable - either way - hope they fit!
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M500 is a Magician, which is a i-mate jam. So, these
http://www.addonsworld.co.uk/search.php?xSearch=stylus+jam&submit=Search
for i-mate jam should fit your M500 nicely. But I've just checked, they don't seems to have anything for your M600. Guess you have to look for it somewhere.
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Actually, the Orange M500 is a different shape to the I-Mate Jam. The top of the stylus is different because of this.

Difference Wizard vs. Prodigy

Hi Y´all!
As I understand it the HTC Wizard came in two different forms; Wizard & Prodigy (or Wizard 100 and Wizard 110 as I´ve read they are sometimes called), with the groups being as follows:
Wizard:
i-Mate K-Jam
O2 XDA Mini
Orange SPV M3000
Qtek 9100
T-Mobile MDA Vario
Prodigy:
Dopod 838
Cingular 8125
Vodafone VPA Compact II
What is really the difference between the two of these groups (besides the slight difference in shape), are there any at all?
BR Magnus
Wallengren said:
Hi Y´all!
As I understand it the HTC Wizard came in two different forms; Wizard & Prodigy (or Wizard 100 and Wizard 110 as I´ve read they are sometimes called), with the groups being as follows:
Wizard:
i-Mate K-Jam
O2 XDA Mini
Orange SPV M3000
Qtek 9100
T-Mobile MDA Vario
Prodigy:
Dopod 838
Cingular 8125
Vodafone VPA Compact II
What is really the difference between the two of these groups (besides the slight difference in shape), are there any at all?
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As far as I can see, they are actually the same (including the shape). HTC Prodigy was the original Code Name which was then changed to Wizard on its release (like Hermes is TyTn). Certain vendors may have the case recoloured (QTek) or have it slightly changed (O2 has the O2 logo embossed on it), but they are essentially the same.
ok so I accidentily mixed up the names of the two groups, according to geekzone (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/smartdevices.asp?phonemodelid=17 && http://www.geekzone.co.nz/smartdevices.asp?phonemodelid=156) the prodigy are the five devices in the top list and the wizard are the other three.
Plus they do look a bit different as seen in these pics:
cingular 8125:
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/cingular-8125.jpg
qtek 9100:
http://www.joncollins.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/qtek-9100.jpg
The thing is that we develop an application running on these devices and now my development crew tell me that our application is handled differently by these two groups...
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The thing is that we develop an application running on these devices and now my development crew tell me that our application is handled differently by these two groups...
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From what I have read, the K-Jam and the XDA Mini S ARE both Wizards. Of this I am fairly certain. (They look like the one you posted from joncollins.net)
The HTC Prodigy in most pictures looks like the Wizard and in the Specs sounds like the wizard. In one set (on www.phones2udirect.co.uk) it says the Wizard has Windows PPC 2005 while the Prodigy has WM5 (and I know my "Wizard" has WM5).
The images of those with a different case seem to be few and far between (inlcuding the ones on the geekzone.co.nz pages you posted which have a different shell, but otherwise the specs are the same). Try Google images for more, but they all seem to look like my phone (XDA Mini S) too.
I'd recommend getting it to work on a standard Wizard (which seems the most prevalent design) and if someone can say that there is a problem with Phone X, get one in as there seems to be confusion over which is which (and there is also the HTC Prophet, just to try and confuse people more....).
{Edit} Maybe this will help -
European products - http://www.europe.htc.com/products/
Japanes product - http://www.japan.htc.com/product.htm
American Products - http://www.america.htc.com/products/default.html
The american one seems to have the phone you are on about and the T-Mobile MDA then everything else below that is something else I have not seen before.... but they are actually a different machine.{/edit}
thanks for the answer, very descriptive

Help with my XDA IIi

Hello,
I have scoured the forums and think the name of my phone is the Andes. I am unable to find a guide on how to install the roms and software from a complete beginners point of view. Please help i bought mine off ebay and it has a problem. If i could flash it i could rule out the phone being faulty.
Cheers
Peter
no IIi is called alpine
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Alpine
Go to Start - Settings - System - Device Info.
Select the "Identity" tab.
PH10B = Himalaya, can be upgraded to WM5 and WM6
PH10C = Alpine, cannot be upgraded but does include WiFi.
Hope this helps.
Can anyone give a link for the running XDA IIi ROM and very easy to setup? it would be a great help really! my XDA IIi is not running now.. it always restarts..
And i have XDA II also WM2003 i would like to upgrade to latest could anyone help.. God will bless you all.. thnks and more power...
ROM Version - 1.11.00 wwe
ROM date - 01/27/05
radio ver - 1.04.00
protocol ver - 1337.42
IDENTITY
model - PH10C
i would like to reload the same OS or later so that the problem would be solved.. it always restart...
i have downloaded the link that DEEDEE gave in the post and followed instructions carefully but an error generated saying that WRONG COUNTRY... we are in ASIA particularly in Philippines.. can anyone help???
pls thnks so much in advance...
deedee said:
Go to Start - Settings - System - Device Info.
Select the "Identity" tab.
PH10B = Himalaya, can be upgraded to WM5 and WM6
PH10C = Alpine, cannot be upgraded but does include WiFi.
Hope this helps.
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I'm confused (doesn't take much), I thought that I had an Alpine judging by the only pic I can find (02 Xda ll)but checking the device info as suggested gives
CPU Intel (R) PXA263
speed 400Mhz
Ram 128Mb
Flash 32Mb
chip type 28F128K3
storage 14.57Mb
Identity PH10B
Is it an Alpine or a Himalaya?
and can it be upgraded hardware and software?
peanut said:
I'm confused (doesn't take much), I thought that I had an Alpine judging by the only pic I can find (02 Xda ll)but checking the device info as suggested gives
CPU Intel (R) PXA263
speed 400Mhz
Ram 128Mb
Flash 32Mb
chip type 28F128K3
storage 14.57Mb
Identity PH10B
Is it an Alpine or a Himalaya?
and can it be upgraded hardware and software?
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PH10B makes it a Himalaya and so it can be upgraded to WM6.
The Alpine and Himalaya are externally identical with the exception of an Alpine saying Xda IIi and not XdaII. The other check is does your have any WiFi, i suspect not as it's a Himalaya.
Hello, I Realy Need Some Help, I Have An XDA 2I Running MW 2003 SE >. (Alpine) 50 Gs Storage 50 Gs Programs... Im Am So Sick OF 2003 Se... I Hate It Soo Much.. I Will Be Happy Even To Run Linux On The Dam Thing.... I Have Upgraded My XDA2 To Wm 5.. But It dosent Work Anymore.... I realy Need to change the mobile os on my 2i.... please even android will be good anything... I Have tried so many upgrades for XDA2 but they dont work they say connection error. Please help me any mobile OS.. Even A Samsung OS..
IIi don't even have stable WM5 or WM6. Android on this device is pure fantasy, not to mention that Samsung crap.
Also, you should check Alpine forums, not Himalayas. You will more likely find your answers there.
Maybe sell that IIi and buy something different? Older WM6 devices are dirt cheap, or skip to Android. IIi will be probably stuck at 2003SE for a long time...
How do i get to the alpine fourms... And i dont have any money ATM.
It's right here: HTC Alpine
When you are looking for a specific device on XDA forums, there is a search box in the top right corner marked "find your device..."
Hope that helps

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