OK NO WM5 But What about WM6 - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

i gess not even a chance but maby ther is a way to install WM6 from some other device with simular spec ?

There is no chance, because Magician is way too old for similar specifications.

esackbauer said:
There is no chance, because Magician is way too old for similar specifications.
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Not true... the hardware is still sufficient - or in other words: todays PDAs are no better than the Magician.
It's actually a pity that it's dead in a development way.
@vladimir2989: So, since HTC won't code necessary drivers nor give out hardware specs needed for 3rd party devs there won't be no new Windows. But I heard Linux development has come quite far.
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Chatty said:
Not true... the hardware is still sufficient - or in other words: todays PDAs are no better than the Magician.
It's actually a pity that it's dead in a development way.
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I agree with you. Magician is running at the speed of 416mhz and average todays PDAs are running at 300mhz or 400mhz.

It just has not enough memory to handle WM6, got it?
And stop mumbling and grumbling about it, its been discussed like hundered times before. NO WM5 for magician, let alone WM6.

vlodeck said:
It just has not enough memory to handle WM6, got it?
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You haven't got it! There are other devices with a similar memory configuration which are WM5/6 enabled.
Magician remains with WM2k3 only due to HTC's will.

There are other devices with a similar memory configuration which are WM5/6 enabled
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Like?
Cheers,
vlodeck.

wm 6 on imate jam ???
hi guys i just wanted to tell u that there is a little chance for wm6 to work on the magican cause i tried the {aku 3.5.2(wm6)} rom and it was sucsisfully installed and i reached the congratiolations screen .but when i turn on the deice it starts vibrating with a black screen

Where you find this Rom and from which device is?
Nice Try man!
(Sorry for my english...)

kdawaz said:
hi guys i just wanted to tell u that there is a little chance for wm6 to work on the magican cause i tried the {aku 3.5.2(wm6)} rom and it was sucsisfully installed and i reached the congratiolations screen .but when i turn on the deice it starts vibrating with a black screen
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LOL just because it installed successfully doesnt mean it will work, both terms are different in meaning and aspect... im also a magician user and up till now m still hoping that somehow somewhere a genius of some sort would come up and say, "You are all wrong, there is wm5 for magician!", but sadly that hope is slowly withering away...
@ kdawaz
i hope your magician doesn't end as an expensive paperweight on your desk...

vlodeck said:
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WM5 runs on Blue Angel, Charmer, Himalaya, Galaxy, Tornado!
All of them have got only 64 MB ROM. RAM varies from 32MB to 128MB.
And who'd really care for Storage? We've all got memory cards.
But now let's stop this discussion... none of the persons/companys able to release WM5/6 for Magician will do it. Others miss specs and can't. Bottom line.
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Chatty said:
WM5 runs on Blue Angel, Charmer, Himalaya, Galaxy, Tornado!
All of them have got only 64 MB ROM. RAM varies from 32MB to 128MB.
And who'd really care for Storage? We've all got memory cards.
But now let's stop this discussion... none of the persons/companys able to release WM5/6 for Magician will do it. Others miss specs and can't. Bottom line.
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Chatty // vlodeck is right because// magician has 2 similar devices// alpine - loox 720.as you must know all of these devices have not been updated to wm5//
top them all
1. processor (intel pxa 272)
2. lack of DOC (This has largely cut wm5 on magician) //
3. small size of rom // only 32mb//
For example the rom wm5 (wm6) of the universal. holds 64 megabytes. wm6 trite not fit in the 32 megabytes
Even if found way to launch wm5 (6) on magician. the main problem is a total lack of storage (I did not know a single device to be used ... for storage. built-in processor STRATAFLASH)
ps/ tornado is smartphone
pps/ alfa wm5 rom for blue angel created by microsoft/ and for creating storage it uses buldin DOC FLASH chip/// fnd it has 32mb strata flash for rom+40mb DOC for storage
ppps/ charmer origionally designed for wm5/ and not similar/it has 128 doc chip for osrom and storage
pppps/ galaxy origionally designed for wm5/ and not similar/it has 128 doc chip for osrom and storage

Related

Whats the difference between Himalaya and Magician?

Yes, i know it's smaller - but:
What will i loose if i swap my Himalaya with Magician?
As far as i can see, Magician have everything Himalaya has, but with a better camera, and smaller size.
Are the any reason i would want Himalaya rather than Magician?
GeeZuZz said:
Yes, i know it's smaller - but:
What will i loose if i swap my Himalaya with Magician?
As far as i can see, Magician have everything Himalaya has, but with a better camera, and smaller size.
Are the any reason i would want Himalaya rather than Magician?
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The Magician has 57MB of memory. The Himalaya has 128MB
The Magician has 7.29MB of Storage Memory. The Himalaya has 15 MB.
The Magician comes without craddle et. The Himalaya has one as you know.
The Himalaya has a bigger screen. Much bigger and better for internet viewing...
That's their differences. I own them both. The Magician doesn't deserve the fuss around its name... I still prefer the MDA II...

Qtek S100 or S110?

HI,
This is my first post as I have not yet purchased this device and needed some advice before buying. In fact I am contemplating between the Qtek s100 and the s110. I know that essentially the only difference is the upgraded memory from 64mb to 128mb and the colour. I was also told despite the fact that the 2 devices are identical (apart memory) the 128mb version runs a bit faster because of the added memory. Is this true?
I already have a 1Gb sd card and plan on using it for storage and installing programs. Will the extra memory come in handy once I start installing programs? I currently own a palm E2 and the programs in the Palm OS are pretty miniscule, in the pocket pc is it the same or will I need several mb per application? I did test out the s110 and it seemed to function pretty fast (compared to my E2) , I inserted my sd card and was able to view pics and video impressively quick with the installed beta player.
Another issue is the price. Here in Paris I am able to sign a 1 year contract with SFR and buy the s100 at a discount phone shop for 120Euros!! and the s110 for 180-200Euros. Is it worth the extra 60-80euros for the added memory? Perhaps it would be better to buy the s100 and with the extra cash invest it in a sdwifi card? Or wait altogether for a newer device such as the qtek 9100.
Also I read in another post that it may be possible to upgrade the m500 (orange) to windows mobile 5 in the future and if that being the case would the 128mb of ram be more usefull?
And is it quite easy to flash the unit to change the language from french to english if i decide in the future?
Other than that, what does everyone think of the magician? They just released the qtek 9100, with the sliding keypad but i dont see it being that great an avantage as it adds weight and maked the unit a bit thicker, taking away the advantage of it being a real portable unit. Included wifi obviously would be the biggest advantage, and of course mobile 5 (perhaps).
I know I've asked many questions here and appreciate any advice. I'm sure no matter what decision I make I wont really go wrong but just trying to invest in a tool that will at least meet my needs and stay current for at least a year before its outdated!!!! Thanks for any help and advice in advance!
The S110 is the better choice for sure. I use one myself and yes, the 128MB of Ram make live really easy - I installed everything (all programs I use and thats a lot) into Ram still have 40+MB free for program running. I would install into RAM for sure on a S110, on a S100 you may want to do it on a SD-Card but I would not do that if it can be avoided and it can with an S110 (wow that rhymes). Trust me, you WILL thank god for not thinking about every MB twice - the S110 with its 128MB can handle everyhting. Never ever would I choose a version with less RAM when one with more is avail.
The other device you're talking about is the K-Jam (iMate calles it this way). I would stay away, the keyboard is useless (at least to normal users) and it only has a 200MHz CPU!
Flashing the Magician (like S100 or S110) is pretty easy, the other one (9100) is based on another hardware platform (TI CPU instead of Intel one) the it will take a while for modded Roms to arrive.
Wifi can be added to the S110 using a SDcard, you dont wifi all the time don't you. I would never choose the 200MHz device with wifi over the 416MHz without given the fact that wifi is an easy addon, more CPU power is not.
WM5 will not likely come for S110 but who needs it? I dont get all the fuss about WM5. I used it on a HTC universal for a few hours and its not that special. The new storage (that uses stone-age-speed ROM) will make it slower in fact.
Thanks for your advice.
I figured it can never hurt to have more memory. I just wasnt sure if the ppc used as that much in terms of applications compared to the Palm os which is negligible.
May programs are less than a megabyte. I have more than half a dozen loaded on my palm E2 and still have space left on the paltry 32mb ram! Well wouldn't be the case with the magician.
I suppose the 128mb model (S110) also uses free space for caching, so if there is only 64mb vs 128 it would make a difference in performance. And the price difference of less than 100euros I guess is reasonable as its factory done.
Mogwai said:
I just wasnt sure if the ppc used as that much in terms of applications compared to the Palm os which is negligible.
May programs are less than a megabyte. I have more than half a dozen loaded on my palm E2 and still have space left on the paltry 32mb ram! Well wouldn't be the case with the magician.
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Don't forget that the OS on the Magician is from Micro$oft who are notorious for memory-hungry OSs and applications on ANY platform. :?
The more memory the better. :wink:
One thing to consider is battery life. How does the 110 compare with the 100? Keeping that extra RAM alive requires power, and that has to come from the battery.
Any 110 users care to comment?
With normal useage I get about 2.5 days on my XDA Mini...
Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
This thread might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14560
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
Thx Paul
so the bottom line is that its a bit of a lottery but the fact that SanDisk are pulling out of this market must mean its unlikely to get any better for the users, is that right?
K
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
risidoro said:
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
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all this makes sense. what I like about the S100/110 is its size - looks like I'll be waiting for the Prophet just like you.
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Kean said:
all this makes sense. what I like about the S100/110 is its size - looks like I'll be waiting for the Prophet just like you.
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Let's hope it won't take too much then!
Bye bye,
Isidoro
Guys,
Here is a roadmap of HTC products for 2006.
http://www.mobigeeks.fr/stories.php?story=05/11/14/4058495
Unfortunately its in french but actually easy to follow.
I'm using the S110 now and had an MDAc before that and I must say that there is nearly no difference with keeping the 128MB RAM of the S110 alive opposed to the 64MB versions. I monitored that closely the last week and I must say the the difference is minimal, like getting 2-5% longer life with the 64MB version but the comfort of having more RAM than you'll prolly ever use makes more than up for that.
The thing with "waiting for the prohet": When the prophet is ready to launch there will be a new one in the pipeline that would be worth waiting for. There will always be a new/better one at the horizon and if you go that "I'll wait for that device" way you'll never buy one of them because you'll always look at the next model that appears better but is a few month away. That said I'm more than happy with my S110 (just bought the SpecTec Wifi and use it with the Socket driver and WiFi companion) and I'm loving it, I couldn't wish for more. Sure I miss the biometric feature of my old iPAQ 5455 but hey the S110 is great. Until the bring a S110 with fingerprint scanner I'm not interested. I dont need intergreated WiFi (the SpecTec makes up for that very well) and I dont need more CPU power (PHM can push the 416MHz up a noth if needed) and a keyboard (like KJam, I'm so used to Resco Keyboard Pro) and for sure I dont need WM5 (buggy slow OS in my view).
That said the S110 is perfect!!!
Re: Qtek S110 + WiFi SD cards
risidoro said:
Kean said:
Hello Everybody, need some advice...
Am new to mobile/PDAs and am thinking of buying the S110 but want to wifi enable it as well as store MP3s/AACs too ...
Sandisk do a WiFi SD card with 256mb built in - has anybody used one of these or know whether its compatible. Web research suggests it is but it would be nice to know it works [and its failures] from someone already using this type of connectivity.
Thanks
K
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AFAIK WiFi/256MB sdio cards work in magician (search this forum for more about it), anyway pls consider the following:
- Sandisk is NO MORE producing WiFi/256MB cards (however they can be still found in some e-stores or ebay)
- 256MB is too small for carrying MP3
- This card is more than 1cm longer than ordinary SD cards so it will jut out from the top of your magician: it'll ruin device's esthetics and, possibly, led to card breaking
- Next month many new wm 5.0 devices will be released, they'll offer integrated WiFi, more powerful camera, EDGE, radio FM, 128MB of storage and, of course, windows mobile 5.0. If i were u i'd wait for them to come.
- If u can't wait a month, then have a look at new Qtek 9100 a.k.a. I-Mate K-jam a.k.a. SPV M3000 a.k.a. HTC Wizard: it comes with integrated WiFi, WM 5.0 and qwerty keyboard.
- If u still want a Magician, then i think u should consider buying a S100 (instead of s110) thus saving about 100$. I have it and, as long as u move all installed programs to SD card or storage, i can assure u RAM is enough for any application (IMHO, of course)
Bye bye,
an Isidoro that's waiting eagerly for Prophet (or Athena) to be released!!!
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risidoro,
Which new devices are you talking about?
mogwai

Dopod 818 Pro, WM5, WiFi, GSM 850/900/1800/1900, 2M camera

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Press launch in HK 6 Dec, 2005
Dopod 818 Pro (Have 5 color, white, silver, black, pink, blue)
WindowsMobile 5.0
2.8" TFT , 320 x 240 / 65K color
GSM 850/900/1800/1900/ , gprs, EDGE
2.0 Megapixel , "macro" function
TI OMAP 850
128MB Rom / 64MB Ram
Wifi " b" /bluetooth(not sure 1 or 1.2) / ir / mini-USB
mmc / sd i/o
150g with battery
58W x 108L x 18.2 H
battery 1200mAh
Regards
YADWTBO!
i.e: Yet Another Device With The Bloody OMAP !
I'd stick to my Magician for a long time, I'm afraid...
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slvrbllt said:
i.e: Yet Another Device With The Bloody OMAP !
I'd stick to my Magician for a long time, I'm afraid...
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me too
Why is it posted in the Magician forum? The URL already tells it is about the Prophet! :evil:
Because it's particularly of interest to Magician owners who, if they are lie me, will upgrade to this when the contract is up. :wink:

Not so subtle Differences between HTC Tytn and I-mate JasJAm

I was comparing these two renditions of Tytn at PDAdb.net and came accross something that cought my attention. Check it out at http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=506&id2=491
While the HTC rendition (tytn) sports
ROM: 128MB, 57.08MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 48.8MB accessable
The I-mate version (JAsJAm) only grants you
ROM: 128MB, 51.0MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 28.0MB accessable
I know it can probably be fixed using some sort of tweeking, but I ask: What's the point in skimming on RAM? Do the folks over at I-mate want this thing to choke when it runs more than 2 applications?
Aside of that, I noticed that HTC Tytn has a
USB Connector: USB 1.1 client, 12Mbit/s while the JasJam
USB Connector: USB 2.0 client, 60Mbit/s
But this might be less of a worry!
Cheers[/b]
Re: Not so subtle Differences between HTC Tytn and I-mate Ja
MCEITLIN said:
While the HTC rendition (tytn) sports
ROM: 128MB, 57.08MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 48.8MB accessable
The I-mate version (JAsJAm) only grants you
ROM: 128MB, 51.0MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 28.0MB accessable
I know it can probably be fixed using some sort of tweeking, but I ask: What's the point in skimming on RAM? Do the folks over at I-mate want this thing to choke when it runs more than 2 applications?
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JasJam ExtROM is far bigger than TyTN extrom. Physical memory is the same and you can avoid extrom installation and "select" the cabs you want to install manually after unhiding the ExtROM. You can compare the two ExtROMs here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
MCEITLIN said:
Aside of that, I noticed that HTC Tytn has a
USB Connector: USB 1.1 client, 12Mbit/s while the JasJam
USB Connector: USB 2.0 client, 60Mbit/s
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I think the data must be wrong on the website, IIRC in my HTC TyTN box it says "USB 2.0".
Re: Not so subtle Differences between HTC Tytn and I-mate Ja
MCEITLIN said:
While the HTC rendition (tytn) sports
ROM: 128MB, 57.08MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 48.8MB accessable
The I-mate version (JAsJAm) only grants you
ROM: 128MB, 51.0MB usable
RAM: 64MB SDRAM, 28.0MB accessable
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Are you serious? 20MB RAM is worth more than anything .. IMO. ROM's k .. but RAM is definitely more important.
Can anyone with a iMate ROM confirm this?
Yeah, but if you don't wanna fidle with ExtROM, the HTC will most likely be faster right out of the box? Right?
Hold off before playing with this for a few more days (supposedly a new TyTN ROM is about to be released).
goestoeleven said:
Hold off before playing with this for a few more days (supposedly a new TyTN ROM is about to be released).
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I have been told that a September Rom is due any day now.

is my phone himalaya or alpine

hi
i have i-mate pda2 mobile
it is just like the picture of himilaya
that shown in the main page http://forum.xda-developers.com
is it hamilaya or aplone
it is PH10D
looks mean nothing
specs mean everything
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Himalaya
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Alpine
if it got wifi in it without the use of a sdcard then it's alpine
Himalaya is PH10B
ather90 said:
Himalaya is PH10B
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or PH10A. As far as I know only different LCD screen and different LCD connector

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