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Purchasing unlocked XDA's in Uk (London)

Anybody,
Could someone let me know where i can buy an unlocked XDA from here in London. Also, can an XDA be used with any GPRS network? provided you have the correct software installed.
Thanks

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http://www.totalpda.co.uk/productview.asp?section=15&id=4395
Please be aware. I have never used these people. I have been on their mailing list for most of this year though. GBP£249 +vat
Also listed is
Multi-function stylus for your handheld. The 4-in-1 stylus combines excellent value for money with superb design and quality. The sleek aluminium casing contains black and orange pens, 0.5mm propelling pencil (mechanical pencil) with eraser and a screen stylus suitable for all touch sensitive screens.
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http://www.totalpda.co.uk/productview.asp?section=37&id=4288

thank you, i will have a look

i have recently (last month) bought 2 unlocked pdas from totalpda. the service etc is very good but be aware that the items are not new. they are refurbished models. my ones are fine, although you can tell they have been used. also you dont get the handsfree kit or the cd-rom that normally comes with it.
if you do get one from them, DO NOT do the OS upgrade suggested by o2 as this will greatly interfere with any other service providers settings. which is the problem i have now!

thank you kindly for that sound advice. it's definately made me think twice, especially the fact that they are not new.

Hi
Give these guys a call teleford telecom or something like that
01772 880880
gto mine from there about 3 weeks ago, £225 (32meg).
i think that the units are new, but come with charge cables instead of cradles.
get the impression that they have them in stock on a time to time basis.
worth a try though.

again thank you Mr R J Webb for the advice, i am so glad this XDA forum exits its a wealth of information. great idea by the developers. i will keep you posted on the results of my call to teleford telecom, thanks.

thank you, i called Preston Telecom (i think) they were very helpful, but as you said their stock has been deplenished. again they are not new but from the descrition they may as well be. thanks again for the advice.

Try ebay uk
Hi
I bought mine from ebay UK from a guy who has contract with upgrade with O2 but doesn't need the phone and it was new. I had to use the xda manipulator to unlock the phone for use with vodaphone which I am using. There are quite a few guys selling new xda sets for about £200 for the 32m version and £300 for the 64 mb version. I got mine for £290(in April 03) but it should be worth less now (maybe £250 to £300). You do not need to pay exorbitant price for a new one and you got to make sure the guy selling the phone is not a cheat. So far all my purchases with ebay UK is quite safe and you could use a escrow service (intermediate service for a small fee which holds your money until the goods is delivered in good order before paying the seller) for added precaution. There is also a company in ebay UK selling the new 64mb xda for £149 (previously £199 only 3/4weeks ago) with a contract with O2.

thanks for the advice i am familiar with ebay, its an ok market place, but tend to be secondhand. i think i am going to go for the option buying a new one with O2 and unlocking it myself, thanks anyway.

Best Universal Deal From USA?

Hello,
I've been waiting a long time for the Universal to be more accessible in the USA, but it looks like nothing is happening over here. Can any of you share how you were able to get the Universal in the USA? I've looked into buying used on Ebay.uk, and now I see there are a lot of cheap units from China on just about every Ebay site. The used units from Europe aren't much of a deal over buying from Expansys, and the China deals look like the worst scam ever. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!
Shawn

Mad Monkey here:http://www.dweiniger.com/

I purchased from MMB and he had one out to me in the next day. I highly recommend using him.

You can reliable buy it from Ebay from a reputable seller. If you use PayPal, you get buyer protection. I needed this because the first time I bought a JASJAR, the seller did not deliver. PayPal refunded my $977.
See lasvegasphones at: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-new-I-mat...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I talked to the owner and he seemed honest. They delivered my JASJAR in 2 days.
Good hunting.
Tim

I also purchased my Jasjar at Mad Monkey Boys Gadget's. http://www.dweiniger.com/
I previously bought a pda2k from him also. He has the best customer service and prices for universals. He carries the qtek 9000 and the I-mate jasjar. As well as the jam, pda2k, etc
He responds to emails within an hour or less usually. Very responsive and will personally answer your universal questions.
He has many loyal customers and feedback on EBay HoFo Forums. Check him out!

I'm selling one
It's like new - just played with it and a K-Jam to try them out but decided to stick with my Jam. $900 obo; I'll throw in shipping to continental USA.
If you're interested contact me with your e-mail and I'll give you my work address details so you know I'm for real (if you want to see my eBay/Amazon eedback my handle is gramix on both).

I purchased my JasJar from eXpansys-USA. As usual, no problems.

dweinger at Mad Monkey is the man!
Great service! Fast Shipping! Great products! Good prices too.
With 2 year warranty too on my Qtek 9000.
Buying from him, I didn't have to worry about anything.
Before that, I was thinking about buying from Ebay - but you always have to worry about whether or not you're going to get your product or not. And there are sites that sell O2 execs for around $800 and they seem too good to be true (called them up - don't sound too honest if you ask me - my 2 cents).
Anyway, if you're looking for an HTC - He's the man!
Modem_Man

I'm adding another suggestion for Mad Monkey Boy (David Weineger).
His prices are the BEST, he's amazingly fast, and he will help support you if something goes wrong with the device and it needs repairs.

How to get a cheap Universal

Hi,
First off: thanks to this forum and it's users! I am now a happy owner of a Blue Angel AND a Universal.
I thought it would be nice to share with you guy's these facts:
1) The Universal costs in Portugal 799 Euro in stores and providers tend to ask 849 Euro for it.
2) You may start to find some discounts. Currently they are sold a http:\\www.fnac.pt for just 649 Euro. Obviously the end of commercialization is arraving for this great phone...
3) The cheapest way to get one is through eBay: I got one for 255 Euro + shipping (280 Euro total).
How to do it and why it's so cheap:
1) In Germany, many Universal's are sold by T-Online, branded as MDA Pro.
2) People seem to get them cheap there with a 1-2 year contract.
3) After 6-12 month they want to get rid of it because it is probably TO BIG for them (being a BA user, I will have to get used to this oversized phone, as well - it is really big and clumsy to handle).
4) Because it is normally SIM-Locked (unlocking it at T-Online costs 99 Euro) and because it is branded, it's value is not so high for normal users (I am a freak, so I would pay it's weight in gold, if I had any gold...).
5) There are lot's of them being sold on http://www.ebay.de.
How to do it:
1) Take your time and start observing current auctions.
2) Make a search for all MDA Pro's on the german eBay.
3) Ask each seller if they would ship to your country and if the phone is really in mint condition.
4) If they don't answer fast, remove them from your list.
5) If they have negative feedback (more than 1%), remove them from your list.
6) If they have strange remarks on positive feedback (i.e. difficult contact), remove them from your list.
7) From the remaining, select the ones that offer phones in mint condition without accessories like SDCards (they are cheaper new and will make noobs lose their heads when bidding).
8) Monitor the remaining ones and bid only in the last minute!!! Keep two pages open: one to monitor current bid, one with your bid ready to go.
9) You should not spend more than 300 Euro - if you monitor auctions of these devices, you will see many being sold for less than 300 Euro.
BEAR IN MIND THAT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY ALWAYS A RISK WHEN PURCHASING STUFF LIKE THIS AT EBAY!
What to do next:
1) Use the great SIM Unlock tool available from Buzz.
2) Flash WM6 in WWE.
3) Patch the registry so that it matches the german keyboard. The german keyboard is perfectly OK, the only annoyance is the swapped "Z" and "Y".
4) If this is not acceptable, you can by an english keyboard at eBay as well. It will cost you some 25 Euro, though. Also, you will need to dismantle the whole phone for this replacement.
It is always better to get a second hand Universal from a friend you trust, but if you live in Portugal or other periferic country, it might not be easy to find someone willing to sell his Universal for such a low price.
Hope this helps someone.
Cheers,
vma

Ops - wrong forum! Could a Mod or Admin please move this to the Universal - Universal section?
Thanks,
Vitor

Don't these machines then have the wrong (german) keyboard?

doodle you should read
nice guide vma, also nice to see someone else puls the same tricks as i do on ebay with 2 pages open.. bidding with only 3 seconds left ftw

bidsniper ftw, it bids with 0.5 seconds to go

Does this mean shipping is worldwide?
Versand nach: Weltweit

panzer said:
Does this mean shipping is worldwide?
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It means the seller will ship to anywhere in the world

For those who can't understand german, here is a nice link for you:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&trurl=http://www.ebay.de/
Thanks go to Babelfish, Altavista and of course to Douglas Adams.
Regarding eBay-Tools: I have tried them, but are not very fond of them:
1) Most cost money.
2) You need to give an (unknown) software your eBay-passwords
3) I don't feel confortable having a software bidding for me
The thing is: if you loose in the last minute, then just wait for the next auction. never buy completly out of impulse. Take your time to find the right product being auctioned. Settle the price you are really wanting to pay at maximum. Bid in the last 1-2 minutes with your maximum price. That has always worked for me.
Cheers,
vma

I did the same thig as vma and recently got a UNI next to a BA. eBay is a good place to shop for these phones. But instead to look just for MDA Pro, it's also good to look for the other aliases of the UNI. Like the SPV M5000. Less people will know that this is the same phone and the price is likely (hopefully) a bit less then for a MDA Pro. (at least that worked for me when I bough my BA).
vma said:
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4) If this is not acceptable, you can by an english keyboard at eBay as well. It will cost you some 25 Euro, though. Also, you will need to dismantle the whole phone for this replacement.
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The german keyboard layout is quite annoying to me. So I would like to opt for the english keyboard, but haven't been able to find it on ebay yet. You have any links to it?? The problem for me is not with the Z and they Y, but with the special character, eg those above the numbers. So, I rather keep the keyboard layout in english, just like the keyboard of my PC. But the 25 euro would be well worth it.
While replacing the keyboard, it's probably also a good oportunity to fix the little plastic thingie that is preventing the pen from falling out. At least that was a small operation I have done on several BAs in the past and plan to do this soon on my UNI as well, since the pen keeps dropping out.
Talking about pens: On ebay, you'll also be able to find a few shops that sell pens for the UNI. One of the shops in Hong Kong sells you a set of 3 for less than 7 euros including shipping. (just search for "Qtek 9000 stylus" and you'll find several shops)

Look here for example: item # 300098533646
This seems to be a black one, but I have seen many silver ones as well. Beware that they come from Hong Kong!
I don't know how much customs charge for something like this.
Cheers,
vma

Thread moved as requested.

not a reallygood idea since the German keyboard is in QWERTZ!!

Read what I wrote! I mentioned that fact.
Also, you can configure WWE through a registry hack to this keymap, so the only annoyance is that the Z and Y key's are swapped. But they will correspond to the labels on the keyboard.
Also, you can purchase a keyboard at eBay and replace the german one.
Cheers,
vma

i got my pro from t-mobile for sale...,so who ever is interestet please pm me for this..

About buying Universal

Hello,
Im thinking about buying Universal, but i have some questions about it.
1.Where to buy it, i would like to get it in good shape/now, not some old cheese.
2.Has it any defects or easy brokening parts.? Warranty after buying via. internet is a pain.
3. I read somewere that there are some fake models avabile?
Is it real talk or some WomensInSaunaToldMe story?

Your best bet would either be eBay or the Marketplace. I think the latter is a better choice because you'll probably find it much cheaper with details.

Just looked, at the ebay.
I could get for 350$ from there.
Now i need some info abot the fake thing.
And one question more:
Is this mobile still sustainable (this may be wrong word ) or is there a hope for support in XDA nexr 2-3 years?
But yeah, Wallaby is much older

Do not hessitate on buying an Universal!
Is one of the best devices ever!!
Thanks to the Chefs and Devs here you´ll have Universal for a long time!
Have a look here to see another buy options
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=25385196

jaank said:
Just looked, at the ebay.
I could get for 350$ from there.
Now i need some info abot the fake thing.
And one question more:
Is this mobile still sustainable (this may be wrong word ) or is there a hope for support in XDA nexr 2-3 years?
But yeah, Wallaby is much older
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Haven't heard of this "fake" business you speak of but i'm pretty sure eBay is safe. I'm also sure you can get one for much cheaper than that.

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I'm also sure you can get one for much cheaper than that.
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Cheaper than the Ebay?
Where?I think 350usd for that kinda High-End device is pretty cheap.
All im worried about is, that maybe it doesn't fit into my pants pockets, because im only 12 and my pocket's arent very big.
edit: Orb3000 could you please fix the link. I like'd to read it.

Enter here and do a search with the word "Universal"
You´ll see many options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476

price and size
jaank said:
Cheaper than the Ebay?
Where?I think 350usd for that kinda High-End device is pretty cheap.
All im worried about is, that maybe it doesn't fit into my pants pockets, because im only 12 and my pocket's arent very big.
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Hi jaank.
On Ebay in the UK, Universals are selling for £100-£130. that is 1840-2390 Krooni (you live in Estonia, right?) You could probably get a better deal on this site in Marketplace.
If you are worried about the size for your pocket. A Uni is 130mm X 78mm X 23mm. Maximum. make up a cardboard one and try it out. that was what I did before I bought my Athena.
A Uni is pretty tough but so is school.(at least mine was) you need to be careful. You already have a Wizard so you know that. Best of luck. let us know how you get on.

Oh, cool answer
But, has Universal some weak spots?
Like the screen turning system or so?Im thinking about some other mobile, at the weekend.
Im in Middle schoool , so im pretty peaceful and im pretty peaceful at all, but im sportly active and so having second phone is pretty good idea I think.
And the point for buying Uni IS school.
Im a boy, so i sit at the back and our school has wifi.
And as you all know (I hope) is school pretty booring.
Thank you for the help, and sorry for my English.I started learning English in third grade and Im going to Six't grade so I'm not really experienced about english.
Thank you, and i love PayPal.
EDIT: Where did you see NEW uni for 2000eek. I talked to my parrents and it's have to be new
EDIT2:About future Is there some roms wiht the latest Manila as in the Touch Pro/Hd

SorryForDouble
Looking for the Cheapest NEW uni.
My old mobile battery is diening so needed fast.

Uni's can be bought cheap at the German eBay. Current prices are at about 100 Euro, I saw auctions finishing at 90 Euro. This is madness, for such a great device.
You need to search for "MDA PRO", as this is the name given by the German phone operator.
I actually own two of them, so that is a good sign on how much I like this phone!
Drawbacks: whilst driving, my phone holder does not allow the Universal to be placed such that the keyboard is accessible. This means, I can't type while driving (one shouldn't do that anyway). Also, Internet Explorer will render quite small fonts.
When I am driving, I do prefer the form factor of my VDA GPS (like a Motorola Q9).
Other than that, this phone is simply great.
No known issues.
You should consider:
- new battery
- screen protector
- proper car holder
Cheers,
vma

i got mine about a month ago. i got it off ebay germany, i paid 88eur for the universal g3, plus a 3200mah battery, a tomtom mkii sirf3 gps receiver and a docking station.
that was about the best 90eur i ever spent, although i didn't get a stylus, a case or a handsfree, which i thought, was standard accessories, the gps alone is priced at 75eur in germany

VMA:
- new battery- IDK, I'm scared about weight.
- screen protector- Shure
- proper car holder- Dont have a car so not needed.
If you buying MDA Pro than you can still flash it?
EDIT: Is MDA pro software in germany?

Hi,
With new battery I meant the fact that most MDA PRO's sold nowadays at eBay are over two years old, so you should not expect to much from the shipped battery. You certainly will need to purchase a new one soon to get a full day of heavy usage out of your device.
I agree that the extra capacity batteries increase the size and weight of the Universal beyond reasonable lilmits (for me at least), so I would stick with the normal sized batteries.
Basically I wanted to alert you that you should not spend *ALL* your money on the Universal - save some for an extra battery...
The German MDA PRO will in most cases come with a German falvour of WM5 and with a SIM lock.
You can, however, unlock the SIM by following the procedure of the Unlocker (search forum) and you can certainly flash a different ROM. I personally like Tomal's modified WM6.1 ROM's a lot.
The only remaining issues you will have with the German version of the Universal:
- MDA / T-Mobile logo on the inside, T-Mobile logo on the outside
- German keyboard: essentially you will have the "Y" and "Z" keys swapped - and no, you can't physically exchange the keys, because they have different size
I can live perfectly well with both issues and they don't affect the usability or the value of the device at all.
Cheers,
vma

Now it's about Ebay safety.
How to chose seller?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-O2-XD...trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1205|293:1|294:50
What do you think about that?

Check on marketplace first!
I saw yesterday a great Uni selling from a trustable member

There is always a risk involved in any internet related purchase...
At eBay you should look for:
- sellers with more than a minimu of 5 feedbacks
- sellers with 100% rating - in case of 99.x% rating, check what was the cause of the negative feedback (sometime's it is not the sellers fault)
- check what other products the seller has been selling
- pictures of the real device, not just standard marketing images
- ask the seller a question and see how long it takes him to respond - avoid sellers who dont respond
- avoid sellers accepting Western Union or similar payment forms
- don't relay totally on PayPAL - it is not that secure
- check shipping costs
- check taxes - specially in case of imports from other economic areas
If nothing is strange so far, nothing fishy, then you can take the risk.
Regarding the Marketplace here at XDA-DEVELOPERS: I have never purchased anything, but would do so from respected members. Check how long they are registered and how many postings they have. No crook would be wasting time with hundreds of posts over years just to sell you a broken Universal...
However, in case things go wrong and if you bought something from someone on the other side of the world, there is nothing much you can do.
That is the price you pay, for getting the device with a discount of aproximatly 50%.
Cheers,
vma

OK - sellers with more than a minimu of 5 feedbacks
OK - sellers with 100% rating - in case of 99.x% rating, check what was the cause of the negative feedback (sometime's it is not the sellers fault)
OK - check what other products the seller has been selling
OK - pictures of the real device, not just standard marketing images
OK - ask the seller a question and see how long it takes him to respond - avoid sellers who dont respond
OK - avoid sellers accepting Western Union or similar payment forms
OK - don't relay totally on PayPAL - it is not that secure
OK - check shipping costs
OK - check taxes - specially in case of imports from other economic areas
So look's pretty good.
I was just asking your opinion .What do you think about him.
Gonna order soon.

Looking for new original HTC T3232 (not clone)

So I'm set and ready to pick-up the t3232, however the more I look around the internet, the more I'm unsure who sells the original phone not a clone. I know to look for the Qualcomm processor and 192 MB RAM, yet I'm not sure if I trust some of these stores.
I would appreciate some links, either pm'd or listed in this thread.
Not sure if its permissible to show links here, but this is what I've found thus far. If it's not cool to post links, mods edit this post.
http://www.smggsm.com/HTC-Touch-3G-T3232-Unlocked-Quad-Band-Phone-Black-GPS.html
http://www.integrontech.com/HTC-Touch-3G-T3232-Unlocked-QuadBand-Touch-Screen-p/htc-touch-3g-b.htm
http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_product_details.jsp?cid=175214
http://www.atgsm.com/HTC_Touch_3G_T3232_Black_p/ph-htctouch3g.htm

aquaman12 said:
So I'm set and ready to pick-up the t3232, however the more I look around the internet, the more I'm unsure who sells the original phone not a clone. I know to look for the Qualcomm processor and 192 MB RAM, yet I'm not sure if I trust some of these stores.
I would appreciate some links, either pm'd or listed in this thread.
Not sure if its permissible to show links here, but this is what I've found thus far. If it's not cool to post links, mods edit this post.
http://www.smggsm.com/HTC-Touch-3G-T3232-Unlocked-Quad-Band-Phone-Black-GPS.html
http://www.integrontech.com/HTC-Touch-3G-T3232-Unlocked-QuadBand-Touch-Screen-p/htc-touch-3g-b.htm
http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_product_details.jsp?cid=175214
http://www.atgsm.com/HTC_Touch_3G_T3232_Black_p/ph-htctouch3g.htm
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Try going to an authorised dealer. Find out your nearest from htc website. Since the launch of Touch 2, the price of jade would have gone down. Offline shopping is much safer, especially if it's for electronic products.

I purchased mine from Ebay, but have to admit I was panicking a bit about clones!!!! Apart from the normal measures when buying stuff from ebay (100% feeback etc), I made sure the one i purchased was a branded orange phone. Yes, it'll be locked to orange, but for an extra 15 quid, you'll sort that out. Also, Make sure ALL accesories are included & the box is shown on the photo (not a stock photo) so you can see its an orange device. Mine only cost me £150 quid inc delivery.
Hope this helps.

tropical cactus said:
Try going to an authorised dealer. Find out your nearest from htc website. Since the launch of Touch 2, the price of jade would have gone down. Offline shopping is much safer, especially if it's for electronic products.
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Unfortunately, there are no independent stores close to where I live. I only have the online option.
Any help to locate a new unlocked original/authentic T3232 Jade would be greatly appreciated.

I bought mine here about 1 1/2 months ago. I am happy with the transaction and mine is a genuine HTC.
http://www.selectgsm.com/htc-touch-3g-t3232-unlocked-phone-mobile-phone-pr-16825.html
I also used this coupon code for a $10 USD discount.
http://www.retailmenot.com/view/selectgsm.com

aquaman12 said:
So I'm set and ready to pick-up the t3232, however the more I look around the internet, the more I'm unsure who sells the original phone not a clone. I know to look for the Qualcomm processor and 192 MB RAM, yet I'm not sure if I trust some of these stores.
I would appreciate some links, either pm'd or listed in this thread.
Not sure if its permissible to show links here, but this is what I've found thus far. If it's not cool to post links, mods edit this post.
http://www.smggsm.com/HTC-Touch-3G-T3232-Unlocked-Quad-Band-Phone-Black-GPS.html
http://www.integrontech.com/HTC-Touch-3G-T3232-Unlocked-QuadBand-Touch-Screen-p/htc-touch-3g-b.htm
http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_product_details.jsp?cid=175214
http://www.atgsm.com/HTC_Touch_3G_T3232_Black_p/ph-htctouch3g.htm
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Hi , If you still did not get one. I highly recomend to buy from CEX.co.uk
You may have some stores in your local shoping centre, they have grades on phones so find A grade, it means as new with packiging and everything incl. I have my one from there + 12 mnths warranty and you can be sure they dont have clones as those phones coming from Orange (people selling them as unwanted upgrade from Orange). If u get orange one u need to unlock it or just simply use it on Orange. If u need more info: [email protected]