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Hi,
I'm soon to receive an XDA IIi, and wonder what is the reason why one couldn't just stick WM 5.0 on it? What would happen, would it just refuse to boot up, or would it only not work 100%? Has anyone tried, or should I be the first guinea pig? :twisted:
Thanks,
Truthiswithin
somebody tried it on a magic and it just said wrong model id something something
and would not even begin install
roms have to be 100% the same device in order to work so the leaked
himalaya beta 2005 rom cant work
Editing the Rom?
Thanks for the reply... but I don't quite get how this all works, couldn't you just modify the ROM to work with the Magician?
Would it make a difference that the XDA IIi is so much similar to the Himalaya? How do HP and Dell propose to offer upgrades for their machines? How will they modify the ROM, or will Microsoft do it for them?
Thanks again,
Truthiswithin
HTC gets the source from ms and include all the spcefic drivers and settings for their devices
then they pass on a basic rom to tmobile and o2 and all those critters
then they add all their stuff and release it
i've yet to see anybody porting a rom themselfs even though some people were looking into it back in the early xdaIIs days to try and get 2003SE to xda2 as far as i know they dident have any success
and xdaIIi just looks like xda2 they are not all that similar under the hood
with the wifi and the different cam and different cpu and .....
I've got the TyTN and the P4350 now; I'll do some comparison and report back here.
Martin
Can you test the wi-fi reception of this device and compare it with Tytn's range(weak)? Thank you.
Very short : (longer review to come)
Although the P4350 has got a slower CPU (200 Mhz - 400 Mhz on the TyTN), it's working much smoother/faster than the TyTN. The rather annoying delay (although minor) on the TyTN when using the numpad in the phone is almost not detectable on the P4350.
Seems much faster graphics.
The Autoslide keyboard is wonderful! VERY VERY nice. The keyboard simply jumps open.
More to come; when I have the time I'm going to go more in depth with my testing, trying to stress the machine a bit.
So far I'm VERY satisfied! In my eyes it's a better device than the TyTN; it now fits nicely in my pockets (17 mm thick (TyTN 22 mm)). I ended up disabling 3G on my TyTN anyway due to the battery draining - so that the P4350 doesn't have 3G possibilities fits me just fine.
I'll be back ;-)
Martin
mine will be here tommorrow
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mine will be here tommorrow
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We're waiting also for your review.
Hi all,
Had anyone tried skype on the Herald ?
How is it as compared to Hermes ?
Thanks
Have you tested divx with TCPMP?
btw skype is about to release version which run on 200mhz
Hi Pakiyabhai,
That is good news, have you got more details on the new skype -- such as the time frame ?
The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
Ok its exactly like my beloved old jam. only with a keyboard. the speed is the same, almost better than my tytn and treo 750v. the keyboard is loose compared to my tytn , kjam, and ppc 6700. the internet loads almost as fast as my tytn, i dont have 3g in my area yet. the screen is the best i have had yet except for my old universal (to big) i cant wait for the omni... there are not enough buttons even with ae button plus imnot quite satisfied. the keyboard is the best yet. and the wow factor is the best yet. ill talk more later
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The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
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Hi Daguru,
Thanks for your reply & info.
How about the Wifi reception as compared to HTC Hermis ?
I was wondering if skype 2.2 requirement of 195MHz is the MIN
operation requirement will not be ideal in practical environment ?
Also I require more feedback on the new skype 2.2 beta with
HTC Herald on the voice quality, connection quality.
As this is very important consideration for me getting this
wonderful device and not HTC Hermes.
The general comment so far is that the Herald is as fast if not faster
than the Hermes even though the CPU Hz speed for Herald is half.
I wonder why ?
I had this impression that, some of the older approx 200MHz PDA phone
devices review have mentioned that during basic operation
e.g. sms, making call etc is too slow. Does Herald have such problem
i.e. keypress respond is too slow ?
Thanks for reading
Well I have had my herald for a few weeks now. It was going to be my primary device. but also two weeks ago i got hsdpa in my area. so I was playing with my three hsdpa enabled pda phones. but here I am a week or two later back using the herald again. I have the cpu set to 252 with omapclockplus . It is just so small and cool. It is slower than my tytn when going through the menu's. But it turns on quicker, answers the phone quicker. has better sound quality ( the phone) Voice command 1.6 works flawlesly over the headset with no tweaks right out of the box. it tells you who is calling through the blootooth headset. and is much more responsive..
that said the ram leaves much to be desired. I admit I have a tun of programs that i consider must haves. But on a fresh soft boot I have 19 mb free. about two mins later its at 15 and it seems to be hovering around 12 or 13. Ok so i have never had a low mem problem, but I like to have it there.
Hello,
I finnaly got mine too ;-) It's working fine with Orange FR, just need to find some GPRS parameters.
Also I just found this news:
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...66&artikel_daten_id=3555&B_ID=243&I_ID=0&TD=1
Vodaphone released the Herald/P4350 as VPA Compact IV (with MS Direct Push & Blackberry support).
Nico
Tomorrow I'll get mine
I have been interested in getting a PDA phone for a while but wanted to wait till I could get one with SatNav built in.
I went to the Orange shop and they said that the SPV M700 (aka HTC p3600) was the one for me, but when I went back for a second look another guy said it did not have GPS and I would have to buy a module etc....so he really put me off.
Now I learn that Orange has the GPS module working out of the box, so that you can install tomtom and it works!!
The question I have now is does the Trinity work well with Skype over a wireless and/or 3G network? As this is another consideration for me..
Thanks for being gentle
Hi....I have not had a lot of experiance with Skype --- but the Trinity does have a powerful processor that should hold up. Until the next generation of HTC devices come out.
As for GPS -- if it is a P3600 it should have GPS -- but it may not be ACTIVATED. That is easily resolved by upgraqding the ROM. I have TomTom 6 working on mine....the GPS receiver is not 100% accurate -- but good enough. The device is a small size and packs a lot in it.
Hope this helps you.
I have the m700, and it does have GPS. It is certainly not mentioned on the orange site, or on the box, and the first time you see it mentioned is in the instruction book
You don't need to activate it or upgrade the ROM. It is hidden, and there are no icons to press to know it is there, but all you do is set the sat-nav/gps software to look at 'com 9' and it gets data from the gps chip.
I use it with TomTom 6 and it is great. It even picks up satelites while in a building, which is not something my other units ever did.
I don't use skype, but if you download SJphone from www.sjlabs.com , then you can use the device for VOIP, and it works well over WiFi. And the software is free.
Thanks for the quick replies, they have given me confidence to go ahead with getting the M700, perhaps even tomorrow!!
You would think that SatNav/GPS is a feature to be advertised!
Anyway, the "Com 9" is a good tip, as I am sure it will save me a headache when trying out tomtom, thanks PaulusUK
hi all
is it true the shift's GPS is blocked ?
can someone confirm ?
if so, what can be done to use TOMTOM on it ?
please advise
Thanks
Not blocked, just not there.
that blows ....
i was about to order one...
oh well, i guess ill just stick to my advantage x7500...
thanks.
By the way I'm using TomTom on my universal but I'm not comfortable to use TOMTOM. I have to enter specific information to use search function, even doesn't have that much result even I paid.
and Tomtom can't navigate to extra number of address like 85-89156 ****HWY.
only can navigate 85 ****hwy. and I Think tomtom's brain doesn't work well when it calculate the root.
I Have navtech for my ipaq, that's works so great. On the shift, even I have to buy a external battery pack or maybe SSD to extend battery life, I'm going to use navigation by microsoft on Vista for best result. cuz I'm use navigation for my job!
If before u buy tomtom, u should buy other one...
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wOesPtnXP9o
Shift has a qualcomm 7200 inside and this is the same chip used by kaiser. This chip has gps inside, as you can see in documentation or in video. Once we can put wm6 full on it we wiil be able to install any navigator and make use ot if....
If the antenna is installed, that is....
I believe if you look at the exposed internal photos of the Shift on the FCC website, they clearly define a GPS antenna. I don't know that it means that it has GPS for sure but it points to that direction.
danielherrero said:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wOesPtnXP9o
Shift has a qualcomm 7200 inside and this is the same chip used by kaiser. This chip has gps inside, as you can see in documentation or in video. Once we can put wm6 full on it we wiil be able to install any navigator and make use ot if....
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I was under the impression the qualcom didnt make it to the final production model and that the Shift just has the one processor?
firedup said:
I was under the impression the qualcom didnt make it to the final production model and that the Shift just has the one processor?
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totally wrong impression
it has a full MSM7xxx inside
cmonex said:
totally wrong impression
it has a full MSM7xxx inside
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I cant see it mentioned in my documentation or on any of the UK websites selling it. Is this a deliberate omission to leave out the 2nd processor details?!? I've heard of them leaving out GPS functionality but the whole processor?
also had gps tools in the old test roms
firedup said:
I cant see it mentioned in my documentation or on any of the UK websites selling it. Is this a deliberate omission to leave out the 2nd processor details?!? I've heard of them leaving out GPS functionality but the whole processor?
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the ARM9 processor is just for the radio.
the ARM11 is the applications processor, i.e. for running WM and apps.
it's not dualcore in the sense an intel core 2 duo is.
edit: sorry i see now you meant the whole MSM is not mentioned. well that's easy to explain why... the WM6 side is supposed to be just a sideshow, so why mention the hardware specs for it.
it also has its own RAM, etc. etc.
if you heard of the dualcor prototype, well the HTC shift is like that. two full devices in one!
Anyone noticed there is a GPS section on the FAQ part of the HTC Shift site?
http://www.htc.com/www/Faq_detail.aspx?p_id=60&act=faq&cat=266
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yea i noticed that too.... what gives? if theres gps in here why the hell don't they let us use it!! I love HTC but i hate the fact that the always "disable" key hardware or features, If you don't want the device to have it, don't tease us by putting it in the first place!!
datacrime said:
yea i noticed that too.... what gives? if theres gps in here why the hell don't they let us use it!! I love HTC but i hate the fact that the always "disable" key hardware or features, If you don't want the device to have it, don't tease us by putting it in the first place!!
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Well... Maybe they leave this GPS option open incase something cookes his own rom and then the GPS function is enabled.
HTC will then have the option to release a rom with GPS otherwise no one wants to use their original rom!
here some info.....http://www.pringle.net.nz/blog/PermaLink,guid,46fcc9e9-26e8-4c40-b262-58a5366cb587.aspx
so let's investigate.....
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expansys shows two versions of the shift, one with gps and one without. I think that htc is planning to release a gps version too, which will probably cost more too
I figured it couldn't hurt try a couple things after reading all the posts in this thread.
This what I tried so far.
I installed google maps for WM6
I copied over Telenav folder from my X7501
I copied the following files from the Windows directory on my X7501 to the Window dir. on my Shift.
TeleNavPlug.dll
GPSAux.dll.0409.mui
GPSAux.dll
After resetting I now have
Under Settings > system the External GPS appplication.
Telenav that starts up and seem to work but cannot find the GPS
Google maps tht works but cannot find the GPS.
I tried abunch of combinations of com port, access setting, etc in the External GPS application. I tried all the ones that worked on my X7501 and few other that didn't but no luck.
When I changed the access setting in the external GPS application it dose change the messages I am getting from google maps. Google maps seems to think there is GPS there but never gets any sat locks or times out trying to initialize the GPS (depends on the settings). I am using the shift in the same place my X7501 gets several sat locks.
Dose anyone else have any ideas I can try or know of any file I missed?
I know should probably wait for people smarter than I am to work on this but I figured I would give it a try...
Dear friends,
I was so happy with my HTC HD Mini, running WinMo 6.5, with the HTC touchflo interface...
Capacitive touch screen, nice cpu, good memory, so sensitive, small and great...the most perfect cell phone i ever had...and i had all the windows mobile devices, since "cassiopeia", before the first Windows Mobile 2003 devices...yes, i had all microsoft mobile OS's...
I was so happy with everything that my small gadget gave to me...I used the GPS lots of times...it help on lots of travels...allways worked very well, sincronizing very quick with the satelites...
But few days ago, i tried to activate the GPS (i'm using iGo since i bought the phone) and....nothing happened...The GPS just don't work...don't find any satellite...
While the device is search available satellites, it show the busy satellites as red dots, and the available as yellow dots...as soon as it finds enough satellites, the gps trace the route and lead me through the way...
But few days ago i tried to use my GPS and nothing happened...the device just don't search anything...looks like the GPS receiver is broken...i don't know what happened...Maybe it felt down on the floor and break the GPS receiving antenna?
Does anyone here already had the same issue?
I'm desperate! It is my baby, my beloved phone, my third hand...
Does anyone can help me? Please? I'm almost begging!
I already tried the hard reset twice...nothing happened...i'm so sad............................
Thanks i advance,
Claudio Brito
(Rio de Janeiro - Brazil)
Hi!
Have you tried android in the meantime? If GPS is deactivated in android it will also not work in windows mobile. At least that was the case for older android releases.
My Dear,
My phone is originally windows mobile, and i luv it...I really don't like android...by the way, it drains battery and make the phone slow (my friend have an HTC Aria, the same HTC HD Mini but using Android, and it sucks...mine is much faster...mine never crashes, never get slow...everything is fast all the time...thats why i like it so much...the first problem was that, about the GPS).
But, seppe82, thanks anyway...
I think my problem is a physical problem...maybe when felt down on ground the gps receiver disconnected...i don't know...
Does anyone had that problem in the past?
Damn...my phone used to be so perfect, and now i'm completely desapointed...
Does anyone sugest anything?
thanks
If it is a physical problem and you didn't use android on your phone I don't know the solution unfortunately. I just remember that somebody reconnected his gps antenna but I can't remember how he did it and whether it was mentioned in this forum or not.
Now I've found that topic and I see you already posted there. I hope there you get help. By the way: I also prefer wm over android on hd mini, since I'm not so keen in games and other apps but on a fast reliable OS
Good luck!
seppe82 said:
If it is a physical problem and you didn't use android on your phone I don't know the solution unfortunately. I just remember that somebody reconnected his gps antenna but I can't remember how he did it and whether it was mentioned in this forum or not.
Now I've found that topic and I see you already posted there. I hope there you get help. By the way: I also prefer wm over android on hd mini, since I'm not so keen in games and other apps but on a fast reliable OS
Good luck!
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Thanks seppe82,
I really luv my WM6.5 HTC HD Mini...is the first problem i have, and the first bad thing i ever said about this phone...
It is still the best phone i ever saw and ever had.
There are faster WM6.5 and WP7 phones, but none is so fast AND SMALL...
I can use my Mini with only 1 hand...and can drive and navigate...the size is perfect...
My sister has an HTC Ultimate...is a beaultiful and top phone, but it's oversized...My hands looks small when i'm holding it...for her, as a women, she carries on her handbag, and it's no problem, but for me, that carries on the pants pocket , is too big.
I still believe that, someday, some company will launch a better phone with maximum 3.5" display (I heard about the Nokia Lumia 800 - first nokia Windows phone - but is too soon to talk about it) ...while it doesnt happens, Mini still the best!
Well...hope somebody can help me...hope somebody knows how to "reconect the gps antenna"...
The video that was posted on the other thread doesnt talk about the gps antenna...it worked for nothing...and the user that mentioned this doesnt answer me...hope he doesnt left the forum forever...
Pleaaaaaaaaaase, sombody help meeeeeeeee...Don't let my Mini die...Pleaaaaase!!!
u will better go to a HTC service or any other phone service instead of whinning here..
this forum is mostly about ROM's and software stuff,not hardware so if you have hardware issues go to the places i mentioned above