Is it possible to connect a USB flash drive to a Atom and use it as a storage device like a SD card or are the Atom's USB connection purley slave type connections and not possible to 'tweak'?
osirisra said:
Is it possible to connect a USB flash drive to a Atom and use it as a storage device like a SD card or are the Atom's USB connection purley slave type connections and not possible to 'tweak'?
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get an XDA Flame. u,ll b able to do that.
OMG, Flame can do that? For other model I dont think there's a software tweak because the phone has to supply some power to the flash drive and I think it's a hardware thing. Anyway, tell me if you find one >_<
Yeah a Flame would be nice but can't afford to get rid of my Atom and get a Flame, 128mb Ram and a GPU sure is sweet tho. Put that kinda stuff in a Atom Life and that would rock!
you need your device compliant with USB Host, too bad atom only has Client Host USB.
you can use your atom as storage but you cannot add more memory unless you find someone who can change the hardware memory. or bebetter yet. if someone can find a way to permanently interface a flash drive(there are small ones available in the market) into the hardware without sacrificing the mini-sd card slot. if this can be done, then i think many people will stick to their atoms.
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Hi there,
I have taken lots of useful information from this forum and I must say it is definitely the best forum for wizards in the net!
Now my question:
I am going on vacation on Saturday I have a mobile 250 GB HDD which stores all my music collection. I do not want to take my laptop with me. Is there a way to transfer my music from the mobile HDD to the miniSD card in my Wizard without using the laptop? Can the Resco Explorer and a USB hub help me with that? ANY useful suggestion welcome.
Thanks in advance!
Rgds
Lars
nope...
Sorry, it's not gonna happen. USB works on a client - master relationship and the HD and Wizard are both clients. Without a device to work as a master (eg a computer, some PMPs) between them, no communication can take place.
Servus
what is a PMP?
what is a PMP?
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PMP stands for Portable Media Player. It would be cool though if there would be software available to give the wizard USB Host controller support. Don't know if that is difficult to do.
Cheers,
Shah
Yeah, to be honest I'm pretty surprised that this can't be done; is there some fundamental reason why its not been done?
Also, can I print stuff off my device yet? I know I can't plug a printer in, but can i print to a bluetooth printer?
you can print via IR to HP printers, that I know.
Is there no workaround to connect to a mobile HDD? I can control my PC with my Wizard but I can not access a mobile HDD???
How about emulating a USB Host controller? Any ideas?
I believe you actually need a piece of hardware for a device to act as a USB controller, not just software.
What peice of hardware would that be?
enlite_de said:
What peice of hardware would that be?
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I knew that question was going to come up with my phrasing.
"Piece of hardware" here refers to an actual chip, like those found on your PC motherboards to act as a USB controller. In short, there is absolutely nothing that you can buy and plug into a Wizard to have it act as a controller. There is a CompactFlash USB controller somewhere, but I heard it's rather unreliable and slow. Plus, it's CF only, and we don't have a CF slot
We do have a CF slot but we just don't show it anybody
I'm sure if you took a mini SD to micro SD conerter, a soldering iron and some pieces of wire you could wire up a compact flash jobby. You could probably take the compact flash plug thing to bits and re-weire it to a mini SD one.
I rather carry my laptop LOL.
Thanks anyway.
i was wondering, what if i got a USB harddrive, and plugged it into my hermes?
would WM6 even notice its there?
this is assuming i've got a externally powered HDD that uses the normal USBHOST.
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..
If you have one lying around, give it a go?!
JamesHolden said:
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..
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that might be the clue to your answer..... the usb port in the phone lacks the capability to host an actual usb device, whether the external device is powered or not... But give it a go anyway... i cant think of any harm in trying... unless there is some kind of major power backflow, but that shouldnt happen unless your external device is faulty
the OS may support it, but hardware-wise - i dont think the Hermes supports USB hosting? or does it?
My brain says no...
But the hope in me says yes...
Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb
4Site said:
Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb
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having the device mimmick and external drive and plugging in external storage through USB are 2 completly different things... and it all comes down to the USB host... when you plug your phone into your pc your computer then is able to act as a usb host, as it has the power and the drivers necessary for that... the phone itself lacks the abiltiy to be able to become a usb host...
but hey, at least your thinking
So it may be possible to access a USB HDD if we catered for it using a driver of some sort (written by us guys ofcourse). This may even show up in the file manager as something like /Hard_Drive.?
main procesor (and also OS itself) have support for USB host, but for some reason HTS decide to not enable this feature, it was asked many times, but solution doesnt exist yet... I used this functionallity on my old Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX n500 without necesity to install any drivers, or registry hack, after connection device had available after few second. It was WM5 device.
well think about this:
keep a laptop usb HDD in your car, 160GB of music at your command, with TCPMP who needs a ipod?
i've already modded my stock headset cable to have a 1/8" miniplug AND RCA's on it, so i'm set for the output, but my 4GB of microsd cards just don't cut it
so i'm working on tryin' to find a usb mini b male to usb b male cable right now, might just have to solder one up myself-- i'll post to see how it goes.
I think I've seen them for sale at Radioshack and Compusa - might try peaking in there though if you have a bunch of USB cables kicking around probably cheaper to solder
IF you look around on the net somewhere, someone successfully made a wifi hard drive, and i think it was fairly inexpensive... He loaded tons of mp3's and would access them from his phone via wifi.
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?
skunker said:
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?
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Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.
jcb_home said:
Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.
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Looks nice!
I just tried this. And nothing happens. Tried a usb memory key (low power), an external HDD (on its own power supply) and a card reader, none of them did anything.
thanks for the go.. after my weekend spent messing with *nix and tryin' to get into locked up wifi, i was spent.
Does anybody know if it is possible to connect the phone to a USB hard drive?
only with flame and Athena as they are the only ones which support usb host
other devices cant use usb devices only be used by usb hosts normaly a pc
There was actually someone who developed a working hard disk storage driver for windows mobile but last I checked the site no longer offered it. Searched for days trying to find the file elsewhere. No luck. Cant think of the company that made the driver.
I'm bumping this as I am also after the same sort of program / utility.
I want to be able to access my External HD and view / play files off it... anyone able to help me out?
Maybe with a external powersupplied disk
Rudegar said:
only with flame and Athena as they are the only ones which support usb host...
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Correct
Our Hermes has no usb host support. I found a topic at forum.brighthand.com which suggested the host functionality could be added with a usb host driver. I found the software (attached zip) but alas... Though I did exactly as the 'manual' (readme.txt) explained, the usb-stick did not appear in my explorer.
Possibly an external drive with external power supply might work because the hermes usb port is simply not powerful enough to supply the power to the usb-stick. However I did not "explore that possibility" (don't have one ) and chances are 'just a driver' is not enough and hermes lacks "usb host hardware".
dident read the post because you dident give a link to the post just the forum
but i doubt that it's a general thing
many pda's have usbhost in the cpu itself but htc never connected those connectors
so it's not wired to the connector they have their own usb chip
so if the post you read said it about any other pda then htc based one it could be that that manufactor did connect the usb but dident supply the driver which would then be fixed with what you found
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many pda's have usbhost in the cpu itself but htc never connected those connectors
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Sounds like there could be the potential for a hardware hack...
heh, nice try. but it will end like GPS HW hack on the TyTN (aka Hermes). it is not worth it, I mean there is easy way, just buy device with GPS integrated, or buy external. I have electronic skills and proper tools, I can do such things but it is too complicated. in that hermes was problem, that antena was not properly connected and you can never get a GPS lock. I guess that with usb host is the same. missing circuitry.
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Sounds like there could be the potential for a hardware hack...
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Yepp!
Hi,
this is correct
sinmae said:
heh, nice try. but it will end like GPS HW hack on the TyTN (aka Hermes). it is not worth it, I mean there is easy way, just buy device with GPS integrated, or buy external. I have electronic skills and proper tools, I can do such things but it is too complicated. in that hermes was problem, that antena was not properly connected and you can never get a GPS lock. I guess that with usb host is the same. missing circuitry.
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The USB host port of the Samsung CPU is used to connect to the internal GSM/GPRS chipset. So no chance to break it up!
If someone would ever hack this hardware part, the result would be a hermes without radio.
The engineers at HTC used the USB host port to achieve the necessary bandwith for high speed data connection to the GSM/GPRS chips from Qualcomm.
Best regards,
scholbert
thats an interesting information, thanx
scholbert said:
The engineers at HTC used the USB host port to achieve the necessary bandwith for high speed data connection to the GSM/GPRS chips from Qualcomm.
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hey guys just wanted to know that is it possible to connect external harddisk or a pendrive to universal ( exec ) ? i want to connect my external harddisk to universal and want to see harddisk data on universal is it possible plz rep .. thanx
Could well be possible , for this your WM will have to work as USN HOST .
Will search and let u know if i find anything
No, it is not possible.
The number of WM devices that actually have USB host functionality can be counted using fingers of one hand and the exec / Universal is not one of them.
USB host is a hardware matter (not just a driver) so you can not install a patch.
Yup, impossible. In addition to levenum's post, let me also state that, as there're no USB host cards in the SD format, you can only use Wi-Fi (or the sloooooooow BT) to access external hard drives.
There're some access points that have this kind of functionality; for example, NetGear's WGT634U. See http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13738 for more info.
The Xperia doesn't have host capabilities, but is it possible to get such functions with suitable drivers? Such drivers are discussed in this thread:
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58813
As you can see they work with certain winmo devices. I wasn't able to make them work with my Xperia, but maybe one of you guys would be able to do it. Any other solutions?
PC
Not sure I'd bother really. What do you need to connect? If it's for storage just get yourself devices that take SD cards, then use MicroSD in adapters, then y ou can easily take it out and put it in the Xperia to copy stuff over.
Well, I guess I want my Xperia to have all sorts of capabilities. Imagine connecting an external DVD-RW drive and burning a couple of disks...... How about that !
I don't think linking to warez sites is within the rules..
if you have to it would be better to stick the relevant text in your post
Um.... the site may be for anything, but the drivers are freeware made by a poster on that site. I don't think it is against the rules, but if it is a mod should take the necessary steps.
The only reason that I could reasonably see for having a USB host to to accept USB pendrives for copying data to the microSD card. I can see 3-4 reasons why it wouldn't work, the primary one being that the USB port won't provide 5v/500mA to power the external peripheral.
Just a idea...
i have an idea which i like to share with You ...Imagine one small box with 4 ordinary aa mignon bateries inside and a card reader inside and a mini usb cable going out from that thing. Ok, now what we have here? Alternative charger for Your Xperia if You need it,some extra backup space for Your data and all we need is Usb host drivers on xperia. Advantages of this stuff is that everyone can make it, its a cheap solution,You can buy a batteries in almost every market and its just a basic idea so You can upgrade it as You need it. The fact is that we now have a power (5v/500ma) which we need for usb host. Please let me know what are You think of this and sorry for my bad English
Hm.... So the Xperia doesn't have a powered USB right? Can't this be changed by a software hack or something or is it hardware related? Is there a device that can be put between the Xperia and the external flash and that provides some form of power, like the one "Mrca" suggested above my post?
I would like posibilyty to conect usb stick.
now and then I trawel by ferry it takes abaur 12 h of doing nothing.
and just watching movies on phone.
so stick is perfect for video or music. my mini 8gb sd is full with other crap.
and by hqaving external power to usb it alsoo charges phone.
so anyone ?!?!?!
PLEASE USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION !
This has allready been discussed here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
You should have a look to those other subforums of devices which feature the same chipset / functions.... ( Touch HD , Touch Pro, Touch Diamond etc etc etc )