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Bluetooth connection with BMW 520i

I have I-mate , and updated to ver 1.52 , i try to connect it with the BMW car bluetooth , they can see each other but the car can not bound the i-mate , any body try this , or is there a patch tor that.
any help

I'd like to...if anyone has a BMW 520i to donate i'll be willing to have a go!!
Sorry i couldn't be more helpful....i just couldn't resist.

Yes There is a solution Ali!!
First backup your device
Goto www.clubimate.com
Register Your device
Then you would head to the support section
And download the latest ROM upgrade which is approximately 40 MB
Upgrade your device since the new ROM is said to have a new fix for bluetooth.
And if this works ........ Please Donate !! (Just kidding !!)

if i am not mistaken, the bmw carkit is the same as the parrot ck3000...if so you have a problem (for the moment anyway)
the parrot ck3000 works with the handsfree profile of a bluetooth phone, and the xda2,qtek2020,i-mate and all the other names for our machine only works the headset-profile....it is no use of trying to upgrade the carkit, mine has the latest software, and still does not work...the upgrade has to come from your pda, that has to support the handsfree profile...as i heard, there should be one comming out in the first few months...let's hope...

thanks for the help
i update the i-mate before from the clubimate but as you said no help at all it is the same problem
if problem solved will donate sample bmw logo from the company

To ali:
Simply: NO WAY. Nor will BMW support you in any way: You will not get (in written) even the list of supported phones. They just claim it's lack of Bluetooth standardization (Wich is not completly false...).
BTW, I've found the hard way that BMW cars only support Handsfree profile (No headset), BUT, not on every phone model, and not all features....
If you are interested:
1- Ericsson and Sony-Ericsson T68 models: They work on the handsfree part of the Bonding, but you will not get your phone contact list automatically passed onto the car kit phone system. You may pass contacts one at a time (tedious and time consumming).
2- SE P800: My biggest disappointement, they do not even pair reliably, no contact list at all, connection breaks with no apparent reason.
3- Siemens S-55: The BMW preferred one (Both Germans, I guess....), to no avail. Same behaviour as SE T68, and although the contact list is supposed to be passed automatically it doesn't. When tried manually, it stops at about 6 or 7 contacts and the phone hangs.
4- XDAII: The BT part is SO POORLY implemented, it should have been even removed from the reviews on the forums.

Using a Qtek 9090 with a original BMW bluetooth carkit

I bought my qtek last week and trying ever since to get it connected with my carkit..
Sometimes this works and I can hear and talk through my carkit. Other times it only rings through my carkit and when i pick it up it disconnectw with the carkit and goes back to the qtek. Or it doesn't connect at all.
I've tried several things..
-first I wanted to try the new bluetooth patches.. this works a little better for example without switching on the qtek and turning the key, they automatically connect. Not all times but ik works a little better.
-trying to put a new ROM version on my qtek, got a country id error.. Got rid of it using the xda3nfbtool.. then got a radio image file checksum error.. Don't know how to bypass this because it has to do with the passwords in the xda3nfbtool.exe..
So now I'm here, hoping that some wizzkids know how to get a permanently good bt connection...
Who dares??? Or has suggestions??
Thanks in advance,
Sorry my english isn't my main language

BMW BT with Blue Angel
Same problem here. Have tried all available patches. the 3500 BT version works with the least amount of trouble. But even with this one I never know how long it will take to get it working and wether I will hit a tree in the meantime.
A Friend of mine uses the Motorola Carkit with no problem. I think the BMW System is too complicated with i5s address-book synch to work. By the way, how many adresses do you havein your qtek?

Hi,
I do have at least a very similar problerm with my Audi BT. I can connect, it works just fine when I make a call, BUT it looses connection after picking up an incoming call...
I tried all stacks I could get my hands on from 1900 thru 2400 till 3500 and even 6600...
Anyone with an idea!?
TIA
PEACE AND B WILD!

Re: BMW BT with Blue Angel
jofeuerstein said:
Same problem here. Have tried all available patches. the 3500 BT version works with the least amount of trouble. But even with this one I never know how long it will take to get it working and wether I will hit a tree in the meantime.
A Friend of mine uses the Motorola Carkit with no problem. I think the BMW System is too complicated with i5s address-book synch to work. By the way, how many adresses do you havein your qtek?
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Don't know how many adresses, about 150... But at this time I have none in the PDA, just to test if the BT connection will work... But it has to do with the connection and not the adress book... I just found out that different models of BMW could have different model of BT carkits. And BMW uses a siemens carkit according to a mechanic from BMW.
I hope someone has the brains to pull this of.. Because how is it possible to get a only sometimes connection. This means that it could work, or is that just my postive attitude.

bmw car kits
by wot i understand bmw are about 100000 years behind with there software on the car kits 6600 t610 v600 etc all work but your new one dropn in and out all the time

Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.

Re: Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
jofeuerstein said:
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
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Can you tell which type of BMW you drive?? And if it's not to much trouble then mention the ROM, Radio version etc you have on your PDA... That is what I (and maybe others) would like to know.
Thanks in advance..
You say that sometimes it takes up to 15 min to get a connection! Maybe this could be due to the phonebook.. I don't no for certain, but if you're BMW tries to take over the adress book of your PDA that could take a while with 4000 entries.. What you could try is, if you're synchronising with your computer leave out the adresses in active sync. So that there are no adresses in your PDA. Then try to pair with the BMW and see what it does... Maybe then it works faster... I'm curious if you get a good connection between the PDA and the Beemer.... Please let me know.
Greetz

Have just installed:
ROM version 1.22.00. WWE
Radio version 1.06.02
ExtROM version 1.22.557 WWE
Tried it AGAIN in my BMW...
First time connection --> connection failed, BT BMW says erfolgreich (succeeded)
Switch contact on/off --> everything works I can phone, and incoming calls also work.. That's how it's suppose to be
Switch contact on/off --> There is a pairing, but as soon as I get an incoming call the phone goes off in the car, but when I answer afther a few seconds the connection is gone.
Switch bluetooth on/off on PDA --> It works again??!!?!
So a early conclusion is that the bluetooth has to be totally switched off when the PDA is off.. If phone rings PDA switches on and connects to carkit.. Does anbody know if this is possible, then I will try it out???
Thanks

I think I have found a solution. I'm not sure but so far this works..
Now I need someone to help with the following...
The bluetooth on the PDA must be switched of when you turn the ignition.
Then when you have your car running you switch on the bleutooth on the PDA... They pair and connect... I've tried it several times and it works...
Now when you switch of your car and turn it back on again the pairing will work but there is no connection. So in my case the phone rings in the car but when i pick it up it switches back to the PDA..
Conclusion; Only when the PDA is switched on the Bleutooth is allowed to switch on... So when you're being phoned, first the PDA goes on and a few seconds later the carkit is active and you're able to pick up through the steering wheel..
SO THIS IS IMPORTANT..
Is someone capable to make a prog. or to delete something in the original bluetooth prog. in PDA that the bleutooth function isn't always ON, only when you put on your PDA...
I really hope someone can help??!?!?!?!
Thanks

Re: Blue Angel and BMW Bluetooth Blues
jofeuerstein said:
at Denis123: thanks. I have 4000 adresses on the PDA and thought the problems come because the BMW tries to download them ... if you have the same problems with 150 adresses, then the adresses are not the cause. At the moment with the BT 3500 (+ this small fix on the download section) the paring works and connecting the MDA when I get into the car works mostly. What drives me nuts is that it doesn't work ALWAYS. Sometimes i have to tinker for 15 Minutes while driving until it works. But once the connection worked, it functions very reliably ... until the next time I get into the car.
So the best I can recommend: Latest ROM version plus BT 3500 + this funky extra fix which I don't know what it's good for.
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What is the "this small fix on the download section)" Can't find what you mean?

@tbd: forget the fix. It was an older version that I mistakenly downloaded ->my mistake
@dennis123
In the meantime I use:
Ext. Rom 1.22.01 GER
ROM-Datum 10/26/04
Radio-Version 1.06.02
Protokoll Version 1337.38
ExtROM 1.22.182
Bluetooth 1.0.0.3500
Yesterday morning I went to my car with BT OFF, turned the car on, turned BT on and it worked flawlessly.
Yesterday evening I went to the car with BT ON, turned the car on, and the BT paired, but during the first call it dropped the connection.
Same today. => I have at least one reproducable way to get the darn thing working. I can't say that satisfies me, but i will stop wasting time with this ;-)
Has anyone tried this with BT 3900 ?
PS: Somebody asked what kind of BMW: The car is an X5 build in 9/04, with the Bluetooth interface and without navigation.

GPS & BT Headset - Yes You Can Can Use Both At The Same

This is more FYI others.... when I started looking at new phones some times ago to intergrate in to my car system getting one that was able to do BT headset and com port at the same time was important - and in fact to my knowllage the IJam was the first.
Any way as it seems no ones broached the subject and at the time I would have killed for this info I'm please to say I have tried both my BT carkit and GPS with Tomtom at the same time and it works... I'm currious if I can get 3 concurent connections now
Any way - probably no biggy for most here - its just my was of helping any newbie that comes along searching for this info... like I did once.
Terran

Hi Terran,
Out of interest, which BT car kit have you got? I've got to replace two Nokia kits now we've got the 9100's. I've looked at the parrot kits, but am using voice commander and would like a kit that works as well as my Scala bt headset.
Regards
Dox

Dox said:
Hi Terran,
Out of interest, which BT car kit have you got? I've got to replace two Nokia kits now we've got the 9100's. I've looked at the parrot kits, but am using voice commander and would like a kit that works as well as my Scala bt headset.
Regards
Dox
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The Parrot CK3000 - Had it since it came out and never looked back. Used to cost me ( cos no company even my current one which expects me to travel has ever give me a car kit ) a fortune before BT having to upgrade to specific kits... and they where a pain to install.
Parrot - Can't fault em - but my only tip is buy the upgrade cables... I've upgraded mine several times and it has helped depending on the issue.... for example..
I've not upgraded it this time how ever the other half found the quality of sound from me ( ie in the car ) better than with my T610...
Hope that helps - PS if you want GPS some of the higer models have it built in.
Terran
PPS Any one with a basic under standing of plug socket a in to socket b can do the install in about 10 mins or so.... the worst part is getting the radio out.

Thanks for the reply Terran.
My only concern (aside from the Parrot compatibility, which you've cleared) is that with two 6310i's, if my personal phone rang, I could ping the work one out of the kit and plug in my own within a couple of seconds. I can't find a way to disconnect the 9100 from my BT headset (which operated in hands-free mode too).I asked here, and after 70 views, there have been no replies... I don't know if there's a quick way on the Parrot kit, and if so, how fast I could "connect" the other handset, or, if I'd have to have two kits, one for each phone...
Dox

Dox said:
Thanks for the reply Terran.
My only concern (aside from the Parrot compatibility, which you've cleared) is that with two 6310i's, if my personal phone rang, I could ping the work one out of the kit and plug in my own within a couple of seconds. I can't find a way to disconnect the 9100 from my BT headset (which operated in hands-free mode too).I asked here, and after 70 views, there have been no replies... I don't know if there's a quick way on the Parrot kit, and if so, how fast I could "connect" the other handset, or, if I'd have to have two kits, one for each phone...
Dox
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Never tried but my Parrots update is supposed to support up to 3 handsets... you can set which one gets priority...
I think they have a forum so may be its worth having a chat with em.
Terran

If you have a CK3000 then this thred ( especially post #20 ) is worth noting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31755
Dear Sir,
Thanks for visiting our forum.
Concerning your request, with the K750and W800 it's not possble to use the phone's voice recognition system
with the CK3000. This issue to the phone software and unfortunately only Sony Ericssson can make some improvments
on it.
However with the CK3000 evolution, you have the possibility to send contacts from the mobile phone to the car kit.
Thanks to this function, you can use the car kit voice recognition system and no more the phone voice recognition system : we are no more depend on the mobile phone. The knob of the evolution's remote control allows you to select this function by spoken menus. It's the same way like for the CK3100 however instead of a graphic indications you have voice prompts. This function was not possible with with the CK3000.
To change your CK3000 into a CK3000 evolution. You just need to change the car kit software and to change the buttons.
However the software update have to be done using a Parrot Serial cable or by Bluetooth using a Parrot Flash Kit.
That's why we ask to send us the unit.
If you have the buttons and a way to make the update , the transformation into a CK3000 evolution is possible.
However for technical reasons, please send us before an email to our technical support : [email protected] .
Some situations can cause bad issues and it will be wise to check with us if the transformation is possible.
Please note : Before to make the software update, please erase the car kit memory. You just need to press the green and red button of the car kit at the same time: you will hear MEMORY ERASING PLEASE WAIT and then your can release the buttons. Once you hear PLEASE PAIR DEVICE, the car kit is OK for the update.
Best Regards
-Adviser 2-
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In other words if you have the flash kit ( which I do ) all you need to do is upgrade the buttons for £18 and flash the ROM and you have a new upto date Carkit...
Terran

connection problems with in built car bluetooth

i've a new seat leon with built in bluetooth hands-free phone system and the qtek 9100.
the device pairs without any problem with the car, but automatically disconnect after a minute.
is there any way to stay connected or any patch?
thanks for help,
powerlord

same
i have the same problem.
i used to have dutty v1 rom on my hermes and was working fine
today I installed dutty v2 rom and the problem started.
I dont know if the problem is the rom, I'll check it out with another phone and let you know.

Same problem here.
Just picked up a Seat Altea XL with what I trust to be the same Bluetooth system. My HTC TyTN (the model sometimes called Hermes or Qtek 9600) gladly pairs to the car, I get the phone book etc., but after a while I get a sound and the display goes "Please insert phone". A minutes sounds about right, perhaps even sooner.
It will connect after a few minutes, but then disconnect again.
My wife's Nokia 6021 connects beautifully.
How does one check the HTC's version - and where to get other ROM versions?

Bluetooth and car hands free

Cant get it working, paired but not connected...any ideas anyone ? driving me nuts
Bury Take and talk universal bluetooth cradle

Thanks for all your help (sarcasm)
Done some digging and the phone sees the car kit as headphones, any idea how to change bluetooth profiles on the hero?

Not sure how to help you but just to let you know that it's possible: it worked out of the box on my car - both as phone and as music player.

I''m not sure you can. The car kit is obviously not providing the hero with the correct bluetooth type id so that it can load the correct profile. I think I remember this on older Nokia phones as well. I have a Nokia car kit and the hero works great (except that I have to manually connect it each time!)
Sorry can't be more help.
puckoon said:
Thanks for all your help (sarcasm)
Done some digging and the phone sees the car kit as headphones, any idea how to change bluetooth profiles on the hero?
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Thanks for the replies guys
Hands free manual just says change profile on phone, not giving in just yet, have connected six different phones to this kit with no problems,
Surely must be able to change profile on a brand spanking new phone, swapping the sim into my old htc prophet for the next two years is not going to be fun!