Hi All,
I currently have an O2 online contract which I have had for about 16months now. After seeing that the XDAIIs are £150 cheaper in O2 stores than online I decided to change my contract to an O2 store type and cancel the online contract and port my existing number accross from online to the new one.
After calling round lots of O2 stores to be told that they have none left in stock, I found a shop with 1 left so hurried along to buy. The girl in the shop though told me that they can port number across from other networks, but not between the online and shop flavours of O2 because they are the same company. Funny that when I go into a shop with a problem on my online contract they tell me that they are different companies and can't do anything !! grr. Needless to say, I didn't buy the XDAII.
Does anyone know if this is truely the case because I do need to keep my existing number and also don't really fancy paying £349 from the online store when they are selling £150 cheaper just down the road. !
Thanks for any info.
Rgds,
Rob.
Hi
That's absolutely pants that is. That is exactly what I did. I had an online contract and bought an XDA2 from the retail side & kept my online number! They can do it, you just need to push them. Once you do they are actually quite helpful.
Have fun! Be assertive!
Thanks for the reply Pete. I didn't think that it was impossible to do.
I'll be back there tomorrow wearing my angry face
I'll let you know how I get on.
Thanks,
Rob.
I had a similar problem, they said that I couldn't port an O2 number to O2 (this is in effect an upgrade) only from other networks. I pushed them and they said it could be done - I signed a new contract, got a temporary number (which was no use to me as I didn't want to give my many contacts a temporary number) so I put my old SIM in the XDAII until they ported the number - it took them over a month to finally port the number, but they did give me 4 months free line rental as compensation.
Well done m8. Just show what can be done when you push! I also ended up with several months free line rental. They ended up moving the new contract to my old sim card. A 'Migration' they call it!
Don't give up just keep pushin.
Good luck!
You need to get your PAC code from online o2 and then take it to the shop.
The XDA2 is going to be £299 in shops from the 1st of March
Has it gone up! Was £199 in o2 stores. Hope not as I haven't been able to get one anywhere, have emailed o2 ceo as i'm so pissed off.
Unless thats £299 offline..... I wish
They were only 199 for febuary back to 299 now onwards.
Sorry people.
Staff got theres for 150 sim free.
8)
Can a new user, onto his second post, dare correct you all (but do so on the basis that he had exactly this, and it lead to a full investigation from the then OFTEL)?
Sorry to say it folks, but whilst SOME Service Providers, or even individual staff themselves, will let you 'port' from one Service Provider on the same network to another SP on the same network, there is ABSOLUTELY NO LEGAL OBLIGATION FOR THEM TO DO THIS.
I know this from huge problems I had with Singlepoint as SP for O2, Porting into them a number from O2 (then BT Mobile SP).
So I took my case to OFTEL.
And guess waht - the reason for this is clear.
Legislation provides for Porting numbers, and places a legal obligation on Networks and SP's to do exactly this.
BUT...
Going from one service provider to a different one, but within the same network, is not covered. Becuase it ISN'T a PORT - it is a MIGRATION.
Only if the networks are different, does a PORT ensue.
And ONLY a Port is bound by Oftel (at the time - now OFCOM) regulations.
So many of you MIGHT manage this (in the end Singlepoint did for me, after all the hoo-ha).
But there is absolutely no compulsion for them to do this, and nothing you can do in law to force them, if they refuse.
Please don't think I am making this up - a simple call to OFCOM will answer your query.
BUT, bear in mind this was a while back, and the case investigator from OFTEL told me at that time that plans were afoot to change this in future to cover migrations too. So it might be worth that call to OFCOM...
Hope this helps folks.
Are you saying you had a problem with singlepoint giving you the PAC code?
They should give it to you no matter where you say the number is going?
Richard
u05rdh said:
Are you saying you had a problem with singlepoint giving you the PAC code?
They should give it to you no matter where you say the number is going?
Richard
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I'm gonna sound rude here, but no thats completely what i am not saying, as my post should indicate.
I was going FROM O2 (with O2/BT Cellnet/Mobile as the Service Provider) TO Singlepoint (O2).
And what Singlepoint would not do, is ACCEPT my PAC code.
Hence why I went to OFTEL.
Only to find that Singlepoint were well within their rights not to accept the PAC code, and transfer IN my number, as it wasn't a PORT at all (PAC = Port Authorisation Code - hint!)
Becuase only if there is a change of networks, does it amount to a PORT. If it is inter network, but different services providers, it is a MIGRATION, which has no legal obligation (or at least didn't at that time).
So what my post was clearly warning, is that UNLESS THERE IS A CHANGE OF NETWORK, it is not a PORT< but instead, a migration.
And for migrations, Service Providers have no compulsion or legal obligation to let you bring your number over - it is entirely at their own discretion.
Only a PORT (which as I said, needs a change of network), has legal obligation to it on the part of a Servie Provider.
I hope that clarifies. :wink:
I spoke to a guy from O2 (the customer care line I think) and when I queried him about being about to migrate numbers from O2 Online to O2 Shop, he was saying I couldn't, but also sounding uncertain. As if he wanted to tell me something but couldn't. In the end he said that O2 are not obliged to migrate the number across because of the administration charge that they incur. As he was sounding strange, I said 'Are you trying to tell me that I should be able to get my number migrated across if I keep on at them, but you are not allowed to tell me that' To which he replied 'Yes'
Rgds,
Rob.
Rob_B said:
I spoke to a guy from O2 (the customer care line I think) and when I queried him about being about to migrate numbers from O2 Online to O2 Shop, he was saying I couldn't, but also sounding uncertain. As if he wanted to tell me something but couldn't. In the end he said that O2 are not obliged to migrate the number across because of the administration charge that they incur. As he was sounding strange, I said 'Are you trying to tell me that I should be able to get my number migrated across if I keep on at them, but you are not allowed to tell me that' To which he replied 'Yes'
Rgds,
Rob.
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In my experience (after the case I had with OFTEL), the ONLY people willing to allow a number transfer on a migration rather than a port, is O2 Online and O2 (O2 Proper, with themselves as the serive provider - not a third party like Singlepoint).
Which fits with what you have said. BUT like you mention - its at their discretion - so sound nce, and keep plugging if they first say no.
Singlepoint will NOT allow you to bring in your existing number, from another provider, if the network remains the same - i.e they will not allow number transfers with a migration - but instead ONLY with a PORT, which they are legally obliged to anyhow.
And maybe I should clarify the Network's logic for this...
If you go from one network, TO another, then the network you have left LOSES a customer/number/statistic/figure, when it comes to reporting year end customer numbers.
On the other hand, the network you are going to, gains a new customer/number/statistic, to include in their year end report of number base/connects.
Thus the new network is happy to do this, and subsidise handsets etc etc.
On the other hand, if all you are changing is Service Providers, then the NETWORK gains absolutely nothing - as they lose one customer to in effect gain another.
Thus absolutely no incentive or financial reason for them to promote this.
And I took the liberty to check, and alas, there has still been no change with OFCOM in terms of the law - ONLY a number PORT (which means a complete change of NETWORK), is legally enforceable in terms of them accepting a number port.
A MIGRATION (chenge of Service Provider, but remaining on the same Network), still has no legal obligation.
Hope this helps.
Like said before in this thread, the louder you shout, the more you get heard, and the more you push, the more succesfull you will be. Nice people don't get anything, just high bills
lummac said:
Like said before in this thread, the louder you shout, the more you get heard, and the more you push, the more succesfull you will be. Nice people don't get anything, just high bills
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IF YOU SAY SO! :wink:
Was that loud enough for you :lol:
hello everyone
this is my first post, and i will admit straight away that i work for one of the big "independent retailers" so have no problem/loyalty with any network..........
i know from previous posts that i may be teaching some of you to suck eggs....that is not my intention!
in the 80's under the then uk government the first 2 networks where ordered to split there "networks" into service providers{billing companies)
that was O2 and VODA by the monopolies commision....several years later the next networks where allowed to sell there own airtime(orange and tmob) .....hence if you are with o2 or voda you could have a contract with up to anyone of 100+ service providers any of which will charge a different amount to upgrade to an xdaII..... you will always have the oppurtunity to upgrade(stay with your service provider,,,if you are a large monthly spend ....negotiate!) but you will also (and use this!) have the oppurtunity to switch within your network (MIGRATION- ie you stay with O2 but are billed by a new company..but are recognised as a new consumer....ie better deal) or switch to a new network....ie voda,orange ..(who are shortly to offer the xda........) who will bend over backwards to get you!!!!!!
either way your best tool is to ask for a PAC code (porting authorisation code) wether migrating or porting.......as this lets the network/service provider you are with know you are not only serious about leaving them....but serious about joining another network/service provider and they will negotaite...if not switch network!!!! normally same handset but better offer!
probably no use and wrong forum
but hey i am new to this!
@ onedaz...
Er, thanks for the heads up, but ain't you read this post at all mate?
The bit about history was both true and helpful.
But "...get a PAC code and do a migrate" ?
Haven't you read my posts at all? You CAN'T do a number port on a MIGRATION inter-network. You can only do a PORT if it is cross network.
(And by 'CAN'T' what I mean, as explained in my post, is compel, by law, a Service Provider, to accept your number - some DO so this by choice, but most do not. Those that do not CANNOT be compelled to accept a PAC code, for a MIGRATION, as this has no legal power behind it through OFCOM. Only a true PORT carries legal weight.).
But thanks for the rest of the info though.
Just to quickly throw flames on the fire and run.....
I am currently with Orange and will be moving over to O2 when my contract expires and I get the new XDA II on a business contract.
Point I want to raise is that ORANGE told me that to get best deal and offer on an upgrade (take out the fact that I want the XDA II) is to MOVE TO ANOTHER OPERATOR - so the above is totally true that migration is at discretion of company, porting (i.e. leaving network) is legal right.
Hi ive decided to take google adsense for a spin on my website... But before I do I just have one question...
1. Do they just send you the money that you earned to you house?
2. Are you/ Can you ever be charged for anything, resulting in you having to pay somthing to them?
Thanks for your help
c22
they send mine to my bank account or they can send a cheque, no you don't get charged for anything. you have to earn $100 before they send anything. AND don't click the ads from your pc, they will spot it and ban you.
How long does it take to get to 100$? And does it count if the same person else clicks on two different ads on seperate days?
coheed22 said:
How long does it take to get to 100$? And does it count if the same person else clicks on two different ads on seperate days?
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How long does it take to get $100?? Well you DO realize that you are paid PER click. So if you're talking about a time period, it would be a function of how many people are visiting your site and what percentage of those people are clicking on the ads. There is no timer. I have sites that have earned $100 in a single day and sites that haven't earned $100 in several months.
About your other question - Google has pretty advanced system for figuring out if clicks are fraudulent. Their value as a company depends on it. So in the aggregate of scenarios you could ask yourself "is this happening fraudulently?" and if the answer is "yes" then Google will probably figure it out.
More importantly - do you think adsense is the best way to monetize your site? Have you considered any other avenues?
Another question about the Xperia X1a,
Is there a built in data counter? My old Nokia had one and tells me how much data I've used so far and I've looked everywhere maybe there isnt one?
Not sure if there is one, but I use SPB GPRS Monitor, which is really good. Try that if you need one to be intact with your data plan.
Where does one get such an application? Free?
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Where does one get such an application? Free?
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http://beta.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/
Download the trial and if you want it for free, use your imagination and hit the search button!
I've searched but to no avail, if someone can be nice enough to point me to the right direction it wouldbe much appreciated.
requesting commercial apps for free is not allowed in this forum plz stop....
buy it or request elsewhere in forums for such things
i bought it and i think it's very useful if you don't have an unlimited data plan. better safe than sorry.
Ok I gave up and purchased the program, seems pretty good. Watching HD youtube videos equates to about 5MB per min. Thank god I have 6GB/mth to use.
Ok I bought this SPB Wireless Monitor and have set a custom data tariff. Now I'm wondering if they make a minute counter too but I'm billed by the second and not rounded off to the minute. I'm willing to buy another program that will track my 200 mins that I have per month from 8am-5pm mon-fri but not counting evenings from 5pm and week-ends. Is there such a program?
If you are an orange customer you can cancel your orange contract as they are changing there terms and conditions. Just need to call and say you want to terminate because of terms and conditions changes and say you recived a text message (which shud have been sent to everyone but i didnt get one). They will try and talk you out of it but cannot keep you on. There are no fee's and you can keep your phone. Once cancelled feel free to take out another contract. Only valid for a couple of weeks so hurry. If this saves you money which it will feel free to donate for my advice. pm me thanx
Orange are making this difficult now after taking legal advice.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4288697#post4288697
Unfortunately this is old news ... loads of threads around XDA on this subject.
But for those that don't know ..
Orange sent all their subscribers a text (mine was on the 27th) basically saying your Ts & Cs have changed and details are available on their website.
Most people would ignore this but there is a lengthy thread on Money Saving Expert http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...html?t=1825687 that details everyones experiences.
In brief Orange changed the contract so you are entitled to cancel.
At 3pm yesterday (Friday) the legal team at Orange said that the clause did not apply to those who could not show the effective changes in the previous three months i.e. going over their allowances or dialling 0870 numbers.
I suggest that anyone wishing to take advantage of this 'opportunity' reads all the threads on MSE before phoning Orange as there are some things that you can do in advance to assist your cause ;-)
If you still want to donate for old news feel free.
MODS PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.
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If you are an orange customer you can cancel your orange contract as they are changing there terms and conditions. Just need to call and say you want to terminate because of terms and conditions changes and say you recived a text message (which shud have been sent to everyone but i didnt get one). They will try and talk you out of it but cannot keep you on. There are no fee's and you can keep your phone. Once cancelled feel free to take out another contract. Only valid for a couple of weeks so hurry. If this saves you money which it will feel free to donate for my advice. pm me thanx
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TC,
Wow, aren't you a kinky little son of a gun.
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
TC,
Wow, aren't you a kinky little son of a gun.
Cheers.
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LOL! - i was just gunna say the same - the cheek of some people eh?
lol.
Already a thread regard this as posted above
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Hello.
Did you guys know that you can get the internet from boost mobile for 35 cents a day here in the USA? That's about $3.50 a month.
But actually, I don't have to pay for that. For some reason my phone has the internet whether I pay for it or not. It's an older phone so I don't usually use it, but sometimes I do and it comes in handy.
Has anyone else experienced this? I was seeing people saying they had this for T-Mobile but I didn't see anyone mention it on boost mobile. It makes sense though because those radio waves are pretty much in the air everywhere all the time whether we have access through them or not. It's just a matter of setting up the router/modem to access them.
Peace!
how do you get boost mobile internet for 35 cents a day?
The option is available on the boost mobile website under my account and plans. Just select the prepaid option. What I like to do is have two phones. I use a smart phone and get the internet through boost and then use another phone for regular calling. But you can use internet calling and texting too if you want to save money and only have one phone. Just get the internet through boost for 35 cents a day then go and get skype or some other internet calling and sms and use that through your boost internet. Works great u can get away with $10 a month for unlimited everything if you do it right.
Would it be possible to set up the boost phone as a mobile hotspot for my smartphone?
as long as your smartphone has that capability yes. I'm working on getting my touch pro 2 set up that way. You might need to download some cab files for it, drivers, software, etc... to enable the specific type of connection that you want. Generally the carriers who originally sold the phone don't want you to do things like this (because they don't get as much money) so they take things like that out of the phone or restrict them in any way that they can.
wait so would I be able to get Boost Mobile internet on my non-boost mobile phone? I have AT&T and an HTC Inspire 4G...So could I have all my AT&T service, but then have Boost for internet?
as far as I know this is possible, but may or may not be possible with your particular phone so you will need to check and see on that... but easier said than done. Check out this website article if you really wanna know how it works, then you can decide if you want to try : http://bridog.net/cellular/master-subsidy-lock-msl-codes/ (& plz click on an ad or two like I did to show your support for well written easily explained) its a good read but you would probably be better off going with a wifi router that fits in your pocket like the ones sprint or clearwire sells that you can stream internet from up to something like 5 or 8 devices. Or you could get another phone from boost and set up internet sharing and use that phone as your wifi transmitter. There's a lot of options really.
I was looking at the files on my blackberry and trying to get the msl unlock code, but it hasn't been easy for me so far. I thought If I could see what the programming is in the phone I could maybe understand how it does it, but as of now the software is incompatible with my windows 7 and for a second I thought I screwed my phone up as it started to give me an error when i was using a program called CDMA workshop. I just pulled the battery and it came back though thank god.
Actually you're probably not getting it free, the feature is usually enabled but you're not paying premium for data, but you will be billed extra for it.
Captainkrtek said:
Actually you're probably not getting it free, the feature is usually enabled but you're not paying premium for data, but you will be billed extra for it.
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you know boost mobile is prepaid right? There is no billing for boost mobile lol I'll bet you $100 I get it free
If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. You'll pay for it somewhere.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
I may not know or understand and I have a lot to learn (from you maybe if you wanna teach me something ) everything but I put my money where my mouth is on this one. I'm getting free internet from boost mobile!
w00t! I managed to get the MSL for my blackberry by social engineering/tricking the carrier into giving it to me. CAUTION: I just wanna let you guys know that most if not all of those supposed MSL SPC codes for your blackberry or other device are FRAUDULENT AND CONTAIN VIRUSES! Do not download any programs like CDMA WORKSHOP CRACK V2.7 UNICDMA or HEX EDITOR UNLESS YOU WANT A BACK DOOR TROJAN! CALL YOUR SERVICE PROVIDER AND MAKE UP THE EXCUSE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CUBA OR SOME OTHER PLACE WHERE BOOST MOBILE/SPRINT or OTHER U.S. CARRIER DOESN"T HAVE SERVICE BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS AND YOU NEED YOUR CODE SO YOUR OPERATOR IN THAT COUNTRY CAN REPROGRAM PHONE FOR YOU TO USE WHILE THERE! IT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES!
derekstaroba said:
Hello.
Did you guys know that you can get the internet from boost mobile for 35 cents a day here in the USA? That's about $3.50 a month.
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You do realise that there are about 30 days in a month and at 35 cents a day it would be $3.50 for 10 days. More like $10.50 a month...
xozzx said:
You do realise that there are about 30 days in a month and at 35 cents a day it would be $3.50 for 10 days. More like $10.50 a month...
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I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out. Nice math on the part of the OP haha
lol that's funny can't believe I did that when I'm always doing algebra and algorithms for school apparently everyone else missed it too
like the subject the best things in life are for free.
Internet is Free
it is a good news for you, enjoy the free internet.
in panama dont have this service
firefox1991 said:
in panama dont have this service
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Oh yea americans only sorry. Unless you wanna try going to the american embassy and giving that as your address as technically that is America they might give you service if you threaten to sue? Then you could create an international legal drama and be famous and possibly somehow bring down the entire new world order in the process
derekstaroba said:
Hello.
Did you guys know that you can get the internet from boost mobile for 35 cents a day here in the USA? That's about $3.50 a month.
Peace!
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where did you learn to do math? here in the USA we have normally around 30 days in a month and at 35 cents a day that would be more around $10.50 a month, nice try tho lol