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02 xda mini rom? updates? keep origonal? change to...i-mate?

finding it hard to get good answers....so in anybodies opinion
the 02 xda mini s
is there any updates from the origonal 1.5.4.2 WWE? if so where can i get em from?
If no updates, maybe the 02 rom isnt the most up-to-date?? and it would be better to change to i-mate? or a q-tec?...if so...which would people recommend? and where could i find them? also...would they effect my being on 02 at all or would evrything stay the same and just the device will work better?!?
what do people think?
jamie

Hello jamie,
I would think that you should at least upgrade to the qtek9100 rom if u worry that u might not turn back to the O2 provided ROM. Or if you want even better performance, you can use the latest imate ROM. But i read in posts that you cannot downgrade as the loki wizard does not work in this rom.
Anyhow, i'm using an xda mini S and using the imate rom though.
Cheers

I was wondering about this as well. I've got an O2 XDA Mini S and it all seems to be working fine (so far). I don't use it for anything spectacular though phone, diary, notebook and I have a few other apps on it. I also run spb pocket plus and spb diary, again with no particular problems.
I know the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but are there any benefits from moving to the latest imate ROM, say?
tzehming,
You said you couldn't downgrade. Do you mean that once you put the latest imate ROM on, you can't ever go back to the original O2? Also, what's the deal with LokiWizard - is there something that needs to be done before the ROM can be upgraded?
(apologies for the dumb questions, I'm starting to get to know my way around the device)
Thanks,
John

jko said:
I was wondering about this as well. I've got an O2 XDA Mini S and it all seems to be working fine (so far). I don't use it for anything spectacular though phone, diary, notebook and I have a few other apps on it. I also run spb pocket plus and spb diary, again with no particular problems.
I know the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but are there any benefits from moving to the latest imate ROM, say?
tzehming,
You said you couldn't downgrade. Do you mean that once you put the latest imate ROM on, you can't ever go back to the original O2? Also, what's the deal with LokiWizard - is there something that needs to be done before the ROM can be upgraded?
(apologies for the dumb questions, I'm starting to get to know my way around the device)
Thanks,
John
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Hello jko,
Yup u're right about having to use loki to unlock the rom. Search it in the forum and u'll find it. Just type loki.
After unlocking using the software, you can then install any rom for wizards, i.e. O2 mini xda s rom, imate rom or qtek 9100 rom. The one i'm using now is the latest one, which is the imate rom. I heard it cant be downgraded and we'll have to wait for an updated loki software to fix that. But the qtek 9100 rom can be downgraded again. I suggest u try the qtek rom as it makes the pda much faster. The O2 rom is really a turtle when opening the slider and closing it.
Hope this helps

Having read the advice above I'm going to unlock my device and flash it with the qtek 9100 ROM.
Once I've done that, what CAB files do I need to install in order to get O2 MMS and O2 GPRS working again?
Thanks,

Having read the advice above I'm going to unlock my device and flash it with the qtek 9100 ROM.
Once I've done that, what CAB files do I need to install in order to get O2 MMS and O2 GPRS working again?
Thanks,

Can't answer your question, but just a request to post back your experience once you're done. It would be appreciated.
John

well, you could again search the forum for gprs settings. u may not get the automatic setup anymore, thereby may have to do it manually. search for O2 gprs in the forum. as for mms settings, someone made a cab file, I can't remember which forum , but again, it can be searched. Try O2 mms.
hope this helps

I've got the mini S too...
First thing I did when I got it was to get rid of all the o2 crap on it... couldn't believe how slow it was even in basic mode!
I did the whole hard reset then soft reset when it says "customizing..."
This basically leaves you with a bare o2 wm5 rom without any of the customiztion installed. MMS won't work and either will GPRS.
To get these working you need to install Total Commander on your mini S and browse to the /extended_rom/ directory.
The cab files in this directory are the files installed when it says "customizing..." on a hard reset.
You can then selectively install which ones you would like to install.
There is a brief outline of what each one is on the htc wizard page on the wiki but I've made a better one I'm gonna stick on there.
You also need to input the GPRS settings and MMS settings manually and install a cab from the extended rom that creates the MMS folder in the messaging application.
After you've done all this you'll notice a considerable improvement over the o2 rom with all the crapola installed.
I've also used lokiwizard to unlock it all.
Not tried the qtek rom or the new i-mate one... as I don't use push-email or the like and haven't found any considerable bugs yet I don't need to.
I have found naggaly features which after installing the RegistryWizard, NullKbd and a few others... they seemed to be solved!

I recently updated my O2 mini S 1.5.4.... rom to the new imate one and i must give my approval for upgrading to this rom. Its faster, more stable, is much better on battery life for some reason.

I recently updated my O2 mini S 1.5.4.... rom to the new iMate one
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Where can I get this. It does not appear to be in the Rom download area (or is it under a different name?)

its in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Well I successfully upgraded to the new i-mate ROM and it's MUCH faster. There's a lot less lag when sliding the keyboard in & out, and the general responsiveness of the device is considerably better.
I've managed to get GPRS working, and I've installed the MMS cab but I can't send or receive MMS's at the moment - it keeps telling me that it couldn't send the message. So I'm going to post elsewhere in this forum and check that I've got the correct MMS settings.
Overall though, I'd definately recommend upgrading to this ROM. Just remember to use Total Commander to take a backup of the O2 Extended ROM beforehand so that you've got the MMS cab-file available to install at a later date.

Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. I may well give it a go later today.
John

Code:
Just remember to use Total Commander to take a backup
Is this the one from Ghisler.com?
I downloaded this but cannot find any instructions or reference to backing up the Rom. Any idea where I can get the instructions (if there are any).
Code:
browse to the /extended_rom/ directory
I cannot see this in the Total Commander Directory list.
Any suggestions appreciated.

Just got my o2 mini s a couple of days ago and I am loving it soo far!!
However, I already encountered a couple of bugs - the system laggss REALLLI bad, like when the slider is pushed out, even when closing/running certain programs the device hangs. Also, I have seen a couple of times where the "phone" application will not load up. In all these cases I have had to do a soft reset on the device.
I am thinking of upgrading the rom - but this is my first pda, and i know nothing at all about fidgeting with the software. I don't want to mess up such an expensive phone so is it pretty easy to do?

w_2k20a:
I too want to be careful.
I have 2 phones, and my O2 Mini S is slow compared to my MDA Vario.
So I am going to try and run an update to replace the ROM on the O2 with the newer one on the Vario, and also get rid of the O2 add-ins which are what slow it down apparently.
I will try this first because I have read about so many problems with the latest I-mate one, and it is not easy to return to the original ROM if it does give problems (although it is possible it seems tricky) - I may the Imate one later if I need to.
The ROM for the Vario (along with others) is here:
ftp://[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile/ - use password xda
Its the UK one.
But first I backed up my Mini ROM. I used awizard to do this. Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
I think that you will find that using the awizard (get it from this link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
the backup part is easy. I have done that quite successfully.
Good Luck.

Modified ROMs. Please Read

My ROMs seem to have made it to a more permanent home. Praise be to the moderators and site designers. They can all be found here:
O2 162 ROM with the O2 crap removed and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped.rar
O2 162 ROM and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
162 ROM with O2 crap removed, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
Standard 162 ROM, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04_Camera_Fixed.rar

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xdaIIi best rom
Helo Pug,
I am not an expert in this area. I have currently the french rom which I find not very stable... I am planning to switch to this new rom 1.11.162 1.04. I obviously dont need the O2 stuff. There is apparently a patch to correct the crappy camera.
So when I look into the folder your are mentionning which rom should I download?
Some of them are modified, updated, cooked, baked...
Also, after the upgrade, should I configurate anything related to the telephone/country operator?
I am a bit lost, could you please help?
Many thanks
Sayborg

pug said:
My ROMs seem to have made it to a more permanent home. Praise be to the moderators and site designers. They can all be found here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Alpine/
Under Modified ROMs and another obviously titled folder.
Happy modding.
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Pug: Would you tell me details of each folder in your tree??? Try to guess it but can't because of too short.

here the latest one....
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Alpine/O2_Roms_Camera_Fixed_Bug/
download the O2stuffstripped if you're not using O2 operator....

O2 162 ROM with the O2 crap removed and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Ext-1.11.162_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped.rar
O2 162 ROM and Radio version 1.04:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar
162 ROM with O2 crap removed, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Radio-1.04_O2stuffstripped_Camera_Fixed.rar
Standard 162 ROM, Radio 1.04, improved camera and extra Bluetooth profiles:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04_Camera_Fixed.rar

Ok, now why isn't this a sticky?

Oh, great. Thank pug for soon respond. I've just try the last and feel good.

Hi @Pug!
Is it totally remove O2 Active UI in my PPC? If like that, I will trying now. Thanks

Phuong: don't what you want. If you browse Pug's directory, you must find that there are two version:
+ one is keepping as much as original from O2 (of course, adding radio and bluetooth profile)
+ one with extended rom (pug call it stripped).
If you don't want O2 Active UI and insist on using original rom, you can choose Corporation and code is 0506. You must know that Pug have posted 2 plugins of O2 (battery and time) for today screen.
Have fun.

Backup and restore
Just a quick question...
If you perform a backup using ActiveSync then do an upgrade with one of Pugs Roms, having completed the upgrade is it possible to apply the restore from ActiveSync to reinstate all the setting/contacts etc you previously had?
Tom

yup yup! better using Sprite Backup....

Backups
OK
So I avoid ActiveSync and use Sprite, hate to be a pain an' all, anyone got link to hand for Sprite?
You may well be able to solve another issue for me here...
Am I right in guessing that if you are changing between ROMS for a similar OS on the same device that backups are OK, but if you are changing ROMS for a different OS the device basically becomes a so different backups are no use?
Tom

Query on Device Info
Evening folks
Just completed the update to Pugs 162 ROM, third from the list at the top.
I used Sprite to backup before I started, update went without issue, then used Sprite to restore afterwards.
The only thing that puzzled me was when I checked the Device Information screen I see:
ROM Version 1.11.00 WWE
Radio Verson 1.04.00
ExtROM Version 1.11.112 WWE
Is this correct, kind of expected to see162 in there somewhere, has the restore from Sprite sent me partially back again?
Tom

hi,
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
thanks

clustered said:
hi,
If you wish to change the version number yourself, use a registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\3RDVERSION and change the MSYSTEM value to whatever you like.
thanks
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OK, so I take it from your reply that the revisions are correct for a successful update? I don't care if it is simply displaying the wrong number.
Being the first time I had upgraded and restored data afterwards I was worried in case the restore had possibly returned any thing to the my original ROM state.
Tom

Restoring files after a RoM upgrade is a waste of time as all you do is replace new files with old, you're better off just copying files you want to keep to your SD card and backing up your contacts.

pug said:
Restoring files after a RoM upgrade is a waste of time as all you do is replace new files with old, you're better off just copying files you want to keep to your SD card and backing up your contacts.
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Ah the Man himself!
Thanks for your work chap.
OK, so if I do quick hard reset, that'll return me to your ROM as installed then I can just install the stuff I require, do a swift sync of contacts etc from Outlook and I'll be cooking on gas?
One small thing I discovered on the way to work this morning, the phone works fine on the handset, but although it dials and appeas 'in call' through the BT headset, I can't hear anything nor can the other party hear me. I did notice some....data noise (ahh the days of listening to modems).... when the BT headset opens a communication.
Tom

Tom,
What version of ROM are yu currently using, as found to my horror that the .169 version sucks with connection to Bluetooth devices, even the ones O2 recommend....
Have found the only stable version for bluetooth connectivity is .162... , albeit a step backwards....
God bless o2....

chris.ireland said:
Tom,
What version of ROM are yu currently using, as found to my horror that the .169 version sucks with connection to Bluetooth devices, even the ones O2 recommend....
Have found the only stable version for bluetooth connectivity is .162... , albeit a step backwards....
God bless o2....
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God something O2 certainly!
I'm using Pugs 162 from the top of this thread (the 3rd one without the O2 junk in it, but with the Bluetooth and Camera changes)
Seems to be working fine so far.
I meant to post a follow up regarding my Bluetooth problem, I think I might have failed to read the screen properly and chosen the High Quality rather than headset otpion.
Tom

2.26 Rom Rocks!!!!!!!!!

Last Night I made a clean install of the 2.26 rom on my wizard and I have to say, overall peformance is way better than the previous roms ive used. On my previous roms, the highest speed I got up to when surfing the net was 79 kbps, with the 2.26 rom, ive got true edge speed going up to 155kbps. Service never drops, and its much much faster. Although I excluded all t-mobile customizations since they are really no use at all. I get 4 bars almost everywhere I go. Streaming radio audio never drops. So, for me this has been the best rom that Ive used. Finally T-mobile has done something appreciative.

I agree, having had two issues with the 1.08 ROM. First, Voice Speed Dial would lose its list about every five days and Speed Dial's list would become simultaneously corrupted, some items being recoverable, some not. I got so tired of re-creating the list I just quit using VSD. MS Voice Command is on order. Second, the handset speaker volume was too low even when at max volume.
I won't be using VSD again, but so far (two days) SD has not become corrupted. I'll be satisfied when a week passes without an incident. The handset speaker volume is improved, and I can now hear conversations in noisy atmospheres without as much straining.
I've also noticed that it is more stable, and faster. Overclocking at 240 makes the MDA run like my old Ipaq running at 400 mhz., and menus zip in and out, with programs loading faster. Soft resets are also faster.
In the past I've resisted loading new ROM's, but this time it seemed like the right time, especially with the hope those two issues would be fixed. I'd say I'm happy so far.

...

I just don't understand. I was using the old, custom 2.08 or something ROM and was doing just fine (other than it disconnecting sometimes)... and after upgrading to the 2.26 ROM, I can barely get any signal anywhere at all. I used to have four bars at home, now I'm lucky to get two and usually get one. Sometimes, I get zero and have to wait before making calls. This NEVER happened before.
Is there something I'm supposed to reset after upgrading my ROM? This just doesn't make any sense.

I will never learn. Everything was fine, except of course MS Voice Command & Bluetooth, on the ROM version my Wizard shipped with earlier in the year.
Friday I installed the T-Mobile 2.26 update, then reinstalled Goodlink. Fine, then Smartskey & RegistryWizard. Looking good, then Goodlink errored out. On a soft-reset, the Wizard hung at a Windows splash screen. Hard-reset, reinstalled Goodlink and Smartskey. Seeming fine for a while, installed MS Voice Command (skipping past the message about Microsoft being an unknown developer). Still ok, then a day later errored out again. A soft reset hangs the Wizard again at the Windows splash screen.
I'll try it now with just Goodlink.

is there anybody know how to install the rom only without the extended rom, as i need to keep my extended rom as it is.

ROM 2.26 on Dutch T-mobile MDA Vario
Hi people,
I wanted to know is it possible to install the 2.26 ROM on my Vario.
If I'm not mistaken the 2.26 ROM is the US version of the MDA Vario.
I'm currently using the MDA Vario Dutch OS. But would like to have the English OS.
Do I need to CID unlock and/or SIM unlock my device before attempting to install this ROM?
Is there any risk in attempting to install it without CID/SIM unlocking it.
Thanks in advance.
Shah

you probably can. im not really sure, but if its still the same phone provider, i dont think you have to cid/sim unlock the phone.

the US version should be fine...its runnig on my UK Vario
if you are running a v1 ROM (no push function) its worth CID and SIM unlocking now..cos at the moment there is no tool to do it on a v2 rom.
As long as your phone is a T-mobile, you dont need to CID unlock before upgrade, but if you wanted to use a QTEK/Imate rom, then you would
good luck..the upgrade is worth it

Thanks people for the quick response.
I will consider upgrading to the new rom.
But one last question is the language issue a problem for a ROM upgrade? I just want to be postive before going through with this venture.
Because T-mobile Netherlands give a 2 year warranty on the Vario, but if I install the new ROM even if it is the T-mobile (other country) ROM
my warranty will void (really stupid T-mobile)
and if the update fails for any reason. I will need to do some extra work for nothing.
Shah.

Update on Uk T-mobile Vario.
I cant get it to work on my vario. Comes up with "wrong vendor" error.
Please post a link or info for UK version please.
Thanks .

Re: Update on Uk T-mobile Vario.
Stu308 said:
I cant get it to work on my vario. Comes up with "wrong vendor" error.
Please post a link or info for UK version please.
Thanks .
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You cannot install on a UK t-mobile wizard a USA t-mobile rom, even if they're both from t-mobile.
You must either:
- CID unlock your device if you're still using a 1.x rom (use lokiwiz 0.2b for the unlocking)
OR
- follow my tutorial to install the rom if you've got a 2.x rom (the tutorial is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088 )
Bye

Thanks risidoro,
I will then try to unlock my 1.x ROM first and then update my ROM. I have interestingly followed other threads in this forum.
But I couldn't find any answer to the queston: When CID unlock in ROM 1.x is the device still unlocked when installing newer ROM 2.x?
In my case installing the US ROM 2.26 is it still unlocked??
EDIT: Reason is to find out if it might be possible to install or try other ROMs if I want to lateron.
Thanks in advance.
Shah

Shah2 said:
Thanks risidoro,
I will then try to unlock my 1.x ROM first and then update my ROM. I have interestingly followed other threads in this forum.
But I couldn't find any answer to the queston: When CID unlock in ROM 1.x is the device still unlocked when installing newer ROM 2.x?
In my case installing the US ROM 2.26 is it still unlocked??
EDIT: Reason is to find out if it might be possible to install or try other ROMs if I want to lateron.
Thanks in advance.
Shah
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CID unlock is like death: you can have only one
[yes, CID unlock is sticky. Do it only once and it'll last forever, even if you go to 2.x]

Thanks Risidoro,
I'm gonna try the unlocking one of these days.
Just hope the US rom also corrects the errors in the ETEN dialer of PaulyA.
I think other language ROM aren't that compatible with the ETEN dialer.
Just love the phone dialer, only those stupid buttons (End button) that never becomes a Talk button.
Once again risidoro a lot of thanks.
Shah

lsnizzle said:
On my previous roms, the highest speed I got up to when surfing the net was 79 kbps, with the 2.26 rom, ive got true edge speed going up to 155kbps.
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What are u using to test your edge speeds? i'm on 2.24 and would like to know what i'm surfing at. I tried a couple sites but they were giving me resulst of 6kbps and crap like that which is not true.

I use SPB GPRS Monitor to check the data rate. It works great, but it's not a freebie.

fone_fanatic said:
lsnizzle said:
On my previous roms, the highest speed I got up to when surfing the net was 79 kbps, with the 2.26 rom, ive got true edge speed going up to 155kbps.
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What are u using to test your edge speeds? i'm on 2.24 and would like to know what i'm surfing at. I tried a couple sites but they were giving me resulst of 6kbps and crap like that which is not true.
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I use this,
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
And this,
http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html

WM6>2003?

How to roll it back from from WM6 to 2003?When I'm trying to do this,it gives me Country ID Error.what's the problem?Thank you

hello again!
have u tried this again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1485240#post1485240 ???
are you using "MaUpgradeUt__NoId.exe" to flash?
there is a lot of information - what a surprise - in the good old wiki.... it's kinda confusing from time to time, but read thru it anyways, it does actually help!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardDowngrade0
good luck,
krz
ps: why are you trying to downgrade anyway...?

Thank u for quick reply))I have some troubles with WiFi.Also I'm not sure that WM6 supports all programmes created for 2003&wm5.Maybe this is the main reason.Is it true by the way?Can I run stuff for WM5 on WM6?

some progs will work, some maybe wont... best way to find out is to try!
but i never had problems like that....
wifi is working for me as well...
krz

As the WM6 is only slightly tweaked version of WM5 there are almost no problems with apps running on newer system. You'll certainly find much more apps which do not run on older systems like WM5 or WM2003 than on WM6.

is there a better ROM than the latest T-Mo ROM for the MDA?

I've been using the latest TMobile rom for a while now and just a week ago I had to hard reset because GPRS would not connec.....now after the hard install I just finished installing all my apps judt to find out
-Email comes in and when I click on the notification it dissapears out of my inbox
-Bluetooth no longer connects in car. States its on in comm manager but I actually have to turn it of and on to make it work.
Can someone recommend a good stable rom to use with t-mo for the MDA.... ? And if you can recommend a specific one what are its advantages? Should I upgrade to WM6 or will I be very slow?
Thanks in advance everyone

KEVIN88GT said:
I've been using the latest TMobile rom for a while now and just a week ago I had to hard reset because GPRS would not connec.....now after the hard install I just finished installing all my apps judt to find out
-Email comes in and when I click on the notification it dissapears out of my inbox
-Bluetooth no longer connects in car. States its on in comm manager but I actually have to turn it of and on to make it work.
Can someone recommend a good stable rom to use with t-mo for the MDA.... ? And if you can recommend a specific one what are its advantages? Should I upgrade to WM6 or will I be very slow?
Thanks in advance everyone
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Hey, what you can do is unlock your phone using guides here and flash a custom rom from some of our genius cookers. I would suggest flashing to the wm6 or wm6.1 rom, one example would be http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367534
It is a new rom built on wm6.1 and it is super fast