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Hi
Just received my Touch Dual yesterday and the signal strength generally seems a lot poorer than my SPV C600, In fact driving down the motorway last night the phone cut off about 5 times, my old phone never did this, is it because of the 3G ? or do you think it could be a duff phone ???
Thanks in Advance
Rich
Try the same route disabling the 3g...
I've seen that in general the signal is much better than my Wizard, also when I'm out of range the Dual it's really fast in joining again the GSM network...
nezla said:
Hi
Just received my Touch Dual yesterday and the signal strength generally seems a lot poorer than my SPV C600, In fact driving down the motorway last night the phone cut off about 5 times, my old phone never did this, is it because of the 3G ? or do you think it could be a duff phone ???
Thanks in Advance
Rich
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True!!
The strenght of Dual in a little bit poor then Tytn or Herald or Nokian70
raid said:
I've seen that in general the signal is much better than my Wizard, also when I'm out of range the Dual it's really fast in joining again the GSM network...
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True Again!!!
I have DUAL about 3 weeks, brand TIM Italy with an H3G Usim and Hsdpa always on ( when avaible )... The joining to the gsm is really really fast
After the elevetor the signal go up in 2 / 3 seconds.
I have a Nike in the US and do not get as good of reception as my Touch. I am assuming it is due to the triband of the Nike and quad band of Dual. I spoke with friend at the factory and they heard of similar performance issues. Has anyone in US experienced this. My touch has excellent performance.
Mr21 said:
I have a Nike in the US and do not get as good of reception as my Touch. I am assuming it is due to the triband of the Nike and quad band of Dual. I spoke with friend at the factory and they heard of similar performance issues. Has anyone in US experienced this. My touch has excellent performance.
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in the US as well. experienced the same problem. Last weekend, was in the movie theater with my gf. She owns the iphone. Her reception was full bar while my dual touch (nike) only had 2 bar.
as far as im aware of, both nike (dual touch) and elf (touch) are tri-band. says so on the htc site as well.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch.htm
more bars in more places
Have an EU version in US with ATT. No real issues with reception. Seems to work fine.... So far. had an HTC 2125 (quad band) before and the Niki gets about the same reception. I see no real difference.
Mr21 said:
I have a Nike in the US and do not get as good of reception as my Touch. I am assuming it is due to the triband of the Nike and quad band of Dual. I spoke with friend at the factory and they heard of similar performance issues. Has anyone in US experienced this. My touch has excellent performance.
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Actually I noticed also bad reception compared to my i-Mate Jamin and Dopod S300.. Here's my conclusion: If i'm connected to 3G reception is often poor.. if connected to GPRS it's ok. for now I have set my connection type to GSM, works for me as 'm not using 3G.
I guess the 3G network is not as good as GSM.. sounds reasonable to me
Can anyone confirm my conclusion?
How do you set the connection type to GSM only.
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How do you set the connection type to GSM only.
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Start -> Settings -> Phone
On the 4th tab (band) you can select your network type:
Select GSM for Network type..
Thanks, I found it while playing although it did not help the issue. My touch has 4 bars in the office while the dual is non existant to 2 and drops quite often. I will check with the factory to see if they will have a new RF ROM at some point to correct or if this is an antenna design issue. Really like the phone but can't use due to performance instability.
T-Mobile in my area is shown as the best they have on their coverage map, but my calls always get dropped
I'm still under my 30 days and I want them to somehow boost up my reception because I seriously want to keep the HD2.
It might just be me, but when I turn off my 3G signal, my 2G coverage is almost perfect, but I still get occasional dropped calls. Is it just me?
And also, do any of those signal booster stickers work? Should I try foil?
I am open to all comment and suggestions..thanks
i usually leave my phone on GSM (2g) through the band properties because it saves battery, and yes i do get more bars. in some locations my 3g or H connection is just as strong.
Not sure about boosters, i heard that the antenna is located at the base of the phone though.
stickers are a scam.
I can't believe those stickers are still available.
Dropped Calls are almost inevitable with today's technology.
2G and 3G coverage are different. if you have trouble with 3G at your location, simply turn it off in order to ensure a stronger connection and more stability during phone calls.
where do you turn off your 3G on a stock HD2?
adamhlj said:
where do you turn off your 3G on a stock HD2?
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settings-->wireless controls-->click phone(not on/off)-->band-->choose gsm
Tmobile is still rolling out it's 3g coverage, so it makes sense that their 3g is not nearly as available as 2g.
Furthermore, Tmobile's 2G frequencies are lower than 3G so they penetrate better.
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Tmobile is still rolling out it's 3g coverage, so it makes sense that their 3g is not nearly as available as 2g.
Furthermore, Tmobile's 2G frequencies are lower than 3G so they penetrate better.
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Lawl.....I am so tempted to use the internet meme here but.....ah well.
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Furthermore, Tmobile's 2G frequencies are lower than 3G so they penetrate better.
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Could you elaborate on that? Curious about the science behind "higher" and "lower" frequency penetration on the different bands...
htc707 said:
T-Mobile in my area is shown as the best they have on their coverage map, but my calls always get dropped
I'm still under my 30 days and I want them to somehow boost up my reception because I seriously want to keep the HD2.
It might just be me, but when I turn off my 3G signal, my 2G coverage is almost perfect, but I still get occasional dropped calls. Is it just me?
And also, do any of those signal booster stickers work? Should I try foil?
I am open to all comment and suggestions..thanks
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Call them and tell them your problem. T-Mobile's help desk has always been amazing for me and perhaps they know something that you don't.
If all else fails, you can use the call to drop your contract without penalties. I'd much rather have an older phone that works than a new one that doesn't!
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Could you elaborate on that? Curious about the science behind "higher" and "lower" frequency penetration on the different bands...
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That's just the basic physics of RF signals...the lower the frequency, the higher the penetration capability (as a general rule of thumb). Same generally holds true for sound frequencies as well.
I don't get dropped calls at all on T-Mobile here in NY (AT&T is a different story).
However, especially indoros, 2G signal is generally stronger than 3G.
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Could you elaborate on that? Curious about the science behind "higher" and "lower" frequency penetration on the different bands...
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Just to give you some very simple insight (you can always google it if you'd like detail explanation; it's actually quite simple, I just don't want to have to type all of it). In simplest terms, Tmobile 3g runs on 1700 and 2100 which is much higher then its 2g which runs on 850. Lower frequencies don't go as far, but have better penetration.
If you'd like another way to think about it, think of when you hear someone playing music from a good stereo system in a building. You'll likely only be able to hear/feel the bass because it's able to penetrate the walls and you won't hear the the actual lyrics/treble because that's higher frequencies.
Hope this helps
T-Mobile 2G runs on PCS, always has and always will.
The reason for 3G not being as strong can be a number of things, the reception on the HD2 really doesn't seem to be good and the 3G network buildout is incomplete at the moment as mentioned before in this thread.
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I don't get dropped calls at all on T-Mobile here in NY (AT&T is a different story).
However, especially indoros, 2G signal is generally stronger than 3G.
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I've only dropped calls when in my poor reception apartment. It seems to be worse at keeping a signal than my HTC Dream.
However it still bugs me that the HD2 doesn't scan or update quick enough when I exit the metro. It might say I have full 3g, but it won't let me call for a few minutes. Sometimes it will decide to disconnect from the signal and reconnect even when I haven't moved to a weaker area and it's still full 3g bars. I'm also in NYC/Manhattan.
update
The data services with this phone are also going under maintenance soon, basically the software of the phone has a defect within the radio, HTC is releasing an update on May 17th to help fix this, you might see some luck having a better connection this way, but everyone is right about the different types of signals, the fact lies that there are 2 towers for each spot, the 2G network is more established where the 3G towers might not have as good of a penetration because they use a higher frequency.
Confirmation
My apartment has terrible reception. My signal will go out for about 5 mins then come back with only 1-2 bars. I turned off 3G and now my 2G signal remains around 1-3 bars with no blackouts so far (3 days).
Its just a minor hassle to remember to switch back to 3G when I go out.
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The data services with this phone are also going under maintenance soon, basically the software of the phone has a defect within the radio, HTC is releasing an update on May 17th to help fix this, you might see some luck having a better connection this way, but everyone is right about the different types of signals, the fact lies that there are 2 towers for each spot, the 2G network is more established where the 3G towers might not have as good of a penetration because they use a higher frequency.
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Where did you find this out? I really want an update, the hardware is great, but the phone quality is horrible sometimes due to all my daily location (and reception) changes.
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Where did you find this out? I really want an update, the hardware is great, but the phone quality is horrible sometimes due to all my daily location (and reception) changes.
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+1
This would be great news if it's true (and actually addresses the issues)....has the date (or even the release itself) been substantiated at all?
hey
i have a nexus 4
and when my room in the house the reception fades like ****
i was wondering if there's any way to place an external antenna in the window and connect it to the phone when I'm in the room
is it possible?
where can i find such item?
thanks
Ariel
Amplifier
arik100 said:
hey
i have a nexus 4
and when my room in the house the reception fades like ****
i was wondering if there's any way to place an external antenna in the window and connect it to the phone when I'm in the room
is it possible?
where can i find such item?
thanks
Ariel
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You can buy an amplifier but they run for about 300.00 euros.
If your issue is the carrier, your gonna have to change it if your want more bars.
There is a post about this issue here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036059
Another solution is a carrier amplifier:
If your on T-mobile: http://t-mobilescoop.com/signalbooster
If your on AT&T: http://www.att.com/standalone/3gmicrocell/?fbid=_nOhLzaqTDI
Hope the info helps you out.
I've noticed the same thing with both my Nexus, our old phones didn't seem to lose signal as bad inside. I've wondered if I switched to a different modem would improve this.
hey
thanks for the fast response
actually im not from the united states so AT&T & Tmobile aren't quite gonna help me
anyways
I'm looking for something like these repeaters you gave but they're quite expensive and im doubtful my phone operator owns them.
plus they aren't gonna fix any reception in my area.
I've been wondering if there's a possible way to extend the antenna instead of the signal so the signal will be received better DIRECTLY into the phone without any other means such as repeaters (just like what you can do in WIFI networks , when you can connect a wireless network card with a long antenna).
Well in no way am I a communication specialist, but from what I remember higher frequencies (which are being used to broadcast data services) have a harder time getting thru walls and such. Voice communication are broadcasted on lower frequencies so theoretically they have a deeper penetration (lol) in the buildings. Try in the wireless&network settings navigate to mobile network and choose use only 2g network. It could help if you live relatively close to a tower. The downside is that you lose high speed data connection but if you're home then you're probably on wifi anyway. Now this is only theoretical and there are a number of things that come into play when we talk about cell phone reception, this being one of many. Try, it might help you a bit but that's not a guarantee.
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What about changing the Provider? Did help me a lot
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My whole house is a dead zone with a weak signal outside as well ( 95 dBm / 8 asu ) I bit the bullet and purchased a Wilson signal booster model 841263 with directional antenna. It was expensive but it worked! I can now use my phone anywhere in my home with up to 67 dBm at best, funny thing is that I have an old lg p500 and the signal is WAY better than my nexus4..go figure! They wanted 660$ Canadian at the telus store but I got mine from amazon for 357$
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Hi
The specs here: (sorry not allowed to post links)
en wikipedia org /wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S4
show that the i9506 has no UMTS support, where as the i9505 does.
1) Do we believe those specs to be correct? Going back to the linked reference information in the wiki, and other samsung pages I found it very confusing to work out if it is true?
2) If this is true, will it have any impact for use in the UK or Europe? Is this removing a set of networks the phone could connect to and hence reducing data speeds in certain circumstances?
Thanks very much for your help
Kevin
By UMTS you mean the 3G?
I had an i9506 before and I exchange it for i9505(becauce of flashing ROMs, you know, very limited options for i9506), for the very few day I have had my hands on i9506, it's same as i9505 on the part of network connection.
I am not sure, as my area is full HSDPA and LTE coverage, so didn't know about UMTS.
But, seriously, except some remote area and deep inside of building,so to underground garage or something , most of populated area should have ,at least, the HSDPA coverage.
Well, that's my case (Barcelona, Spain).
But I think it will do it just fine, even, just for our imagination it doesn't support UMTS which I see the possibility is slim to none, it still got EDGE, by my feeling EDGE is match for UMTS
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Hi
Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I don't know enough, even though I have been reading alot about the different network protocols, to understand what the lack of the word 'UMTS' on the spec sheet really means.
I do find myself in remote areas of the UK at various times and am keen to have the best chance of as good a data connection as possible, hence trying to understand the implications of the lack of UMTS, if it is really a lack in the first place?
Cheers
Kev
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By UMTS you mean the 3G?
I had an i9506 before and I exchange it for i9505(becauce of flashing ROMs, you know, very limited options for i9506), for the very few day I have had my hands on i9506, it's same as i9505 on the part of network connection.
I am not sure, as my area is full HSDPA and LTE coverage, so didn't know about UMTS.
But, seriously, except some remote area and deep inside of building,so to underground garage or something , most of populated area should have ,at least, the HSDPA coverage.
Well, that's my case (Barcelona, Spain).
But I think it will do it just fine, even, just for our imagination it doesn't support UMTS which I see the possibility is slim to none, it still got EDGE, by my feeling EDGE is match for UMTS
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KevWalton said:
Hi
Thanks for the reply, unfortunately I don't know enough, even though I have been reading alot about the different network protocols, to understand what the lack of the word 'UMTS' on the spec sheet really means.
I do find myself in remote areas of the UK at various times and am keen to have the best chance of as good a data connection as possible, hence trying to understand the implications of the lack of UMTS, if it is really a lack in the first place?
Cheers
Kev
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My guess is missing type error.
Hell, there is no way for any phone, any phone that supports from all the way from 2G up to 4G without supporting UMTS, I don't think so, and as for it's Qualcomm 800 SoC, as we know Qualcomm is doing good job on radio chips, so my best guess is missing type.
Did you try search related information on Samsung official website?
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Hi
I think you're right, I spoke to a mobile networks engineer who confirmed the same thing, if it has 3g with HSPA, it pretty much has to have UMTS.
I have proposed a correction to the wiki.
Thanks very much
Kev