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Changing the IMEI

Hi, I have been very happily using my XDA with a '3' SIM after unlocking it but as of this weekend, it stopped working. It will work with other network SIMs so I know the phone is fine. I called '3' but obviously they are not interested. Is it because of the IMEI? If so, I would like to find out how I can change it ... My radio was 4.21 so I downgraded to 3.23.00 and then tried XDA Manipulator but it does not show that option (flashes and dissappears) . I cannot seem to find Radio Stacks V4.06 or 4.10 anywhere ... any help much appreciated.
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<Wallaby 5.14, ROM = 3.17.03. Radio = 3.23.00>

How did you downgrade the radio stack, please give me the method used because I know many people will be interested, I have never managed it either.
Reference your usage of the sim from 3, I cannot see it being an imei problem, as you know the xda is not 3 compatable so it will be logging you on through a 3rd party network as far as I know. If the imei was blocked it would not work with any operator here in uk. Does the 3 sim work in another phone.?

I found GERMAN Radio Stack from this forum. (REF:http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2185). The '3' network also uses O2 network. Have not tried '3' sim in another phone - will test tomorrow.[/b]

cruisin-thru said:
How did you downgrade the radio stack, please give me the method used because I know many people will be interested, I have never managed it either.
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i have downgraded a few times, but i dont know if this method will work 4 u.
if i currently have a TMO stack, ill go to a ATT stack, then i can bak to an earlier TMO, or visa versa
i only tried this with ATTs and TMOs, never had the need to try other stacks...(or should i :twisted: )

It is possible that the phone has been blocked, I have had this problem with 2 phones that I bought as faulty, I repaired them only to find that the sellers had claimed on insurance then sold the knackered phone which had been blocked by the provider.

JUICEe - I am not brave enuff to go down that route given the dire warnings from this forum in moving from UK/Europe stacks to US ones.
crusing-thru - Given that XDA works perfectly ok with 02 SIM, and '3' SIM works fine in 3' phone, I believe its something about the '3' SIM/Network and not the phone that is preventing me using it in my XDA at this time.
Tx for the interest, hope you were able to downgrade using the German stack. It works fine with O2 SIM.

It is strange though that the sim was working fine then doesnt work in xda but still works in another phone. Have you tried an orange or t mobile sim in the phone? If you are positive that 3 uses O2 as a patch network then ignore this. Have you been to bootloader and inadvertently changed gsm to 900 only, if 3 uses an 1800 network this would explain it, if you havent been to bootloader then I have no idea and if as you said the people at 3 are not interested I would consider dumping them as a service provider.

"Hutchison 3G has agreed to share network facilities owned by UK operator mmO2 to ensure rapid time to market even before its own network is complete, with customers roaming between Hutchison's limited 3G network and mmO2's existing second generation network. Hutchison's right to let customers roam with at least one existing competitor's 2G network is part of the 3G license and enforceable by law."

3 have locked the SIM, must be in one of their phones or will not work, even though it uses O2 as a voice network. Seen this problem many times, and there is nothing you can do about it. Anyone who has made it work is just lucky, and 3 will get to you in the end.
Don't ask me why they do it as to me they are restricting their own business, cos if you use your own handset, you are likely to use it more. Just ask my girlfriend who just hates her nec 606 and hardly uses it!!

Hi,
Basically what happened was that O2 complained to '3'. People were getting the cheap tarriffs from '3' and using them in 2g handsets.
O2's opinion was those people 'should' be using O2 as their provider if they are just using the 2g voice part.
'3' realised that if this becomes wide spread, although they will still make a % off the voice call in profit (after paying O2 for using their 2g network), they wont be acustoming people to using any of the 3g functions.
Really they would be hindering the progression of users from 2g to 3g, which may end up costing them alot more ultimately.
In my opinion it was most likely O2 threatening to take action too.
Really their marketing stratedgy is to give out cheap voice calls, to get the 3 phone in your hand... then they bombard u with offers to try video calls etc etc eventually 'in theory' u get used to these services.. same old story.
I havnt monitored the message, but from what i can tell they are using one of two things to stop the phones working:
1) capability messages from the phone restricting the phone from completing authentification because it isnt '3g' capable. That could be done as part of the auth process, raising the required capability to 3g.
2) Using the SAT (sim application toolkit) capability to talk to the USIM and dissable it.
Although SAT and USIM are not actually compatible, you can talk to a USIM through a SAT phone with limited functions.
If they're using (1) your **** outta luck really. But if that were the case you would expect everyone to be knocked out within the space of a month max (when they update the hlr records). Did you just get your 3 card?
If its 2.. you may be able to try an OLD handset that isnt SAT capable, just to prove the point.
I'm leaning towards (2) because i do know that on many nokia's if u type a number as soon as you boot up the phone it will work.
Also if u leave a digit on the screen.. say 0 as soon as u end that call it will still work when u dial the next number.
Clear the digit and not type one quick enough and you gotta reboot before it'll work again.
Sounds like the nokia firmware blocks access to the sim for other processes, in anticipation of reading the KC and doing an auth when u make the call.
Toxic.

t-mob uk web n walk question

dont know if this is right place to ask but, on http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=plans_webnwalk says:
...Messaging over Internet Protocol is prohibited by T-Mobile
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do they mean msn,icq etc? if yes i'll cancel my order and tell them stick it to somewhere

Yes, I beleive that is exactly right, MSN, ICQ etc etc are not allowed at the moment. Under my terms and conditions it says this is to provide a decent experience for other users.
I beleive its purpose is to make people use the sms and voice features of t-mobile, rather than the mainly free use of internet services instead. It is after all there intention to make money on you as a customer.
I *think* they also frown on using your device as a modem for your laptop or pc. Tho i may be wrong on that as they sell the laptop web'n'walk card, but thats on there PRO service.

how much data can a chat consume anyway, 500kb an hr? at most! bad thing is they might just close msn or icq ports on their network and thats it
i dont use to much of it but i wouldn;t like to be prevented from being able to use it
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :evil: :x :roll: :shock:

Do they actually enforce it now?

From that, it looks like that is only on Web n' Walk Pro not the standard

from:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatche...RL=valuemobiles.at/OSD&P36=43XTB9&CID=0&CTY=8
Web ‘n’ Walk Professional is subject to a minimum term contract and credit check. Compatible handset or device required. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy applies. T-Mobile defines fair use as total UK data use (both sent and received) of up to 2GB per month. T-Mobile may contact customers who exceed this volume of data in two (or more) consecutive months in any six month period to ask them to reduce their usage. If usage is not reduced, notice may be given, after which network protection controls may be applied which will result in a reduced speed of transmission. Use of Voice over Internet Protocol and Messaging over Internet Protocol is prohibited by T-Mobile. If use of either or both of these services is detected T-Mobile may terminate all contracts with the customer and disconnect any SIM cards and/or web ‘n’ walk cards from the T-Mobile network.
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I got My TM vario II this morning.
Fired up w&W then MSM and it works. I await the email telling me to stop.
I the meantime I'm usin it

seems strange they would ship the device with msn instaled if they didn't want you to use it...
maybe they are just reffering to skype and the such but got there terminogloy wrong...
best thing to do i would say is call them up and ask...
worst they can say is no your not allowed..

mattie01 said:
seems strange they would ship the device with msn instaled if they didn't want you to use it...
maybe they are just reffering to skype and the such but got there terminogloy wrong...
best thing to do i would say is call them up and ask...
worst they can say is no your not allowed..
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I think there may be a couple of reasons
1) By letting people use msn or skype you avoid using the networks features. The features t-mobile make money on and are in business for.
2) To see how the network performs with so many people on web'n'walk and payg users also having free access.
Maybe if they think there network is coping well with so many users they may remove this from there terms and conditions.
While breaking the t&c they can cancel your account, your more likely to get a letter asking you to stop it, and only if your causing a problem to other users or congestion to a cell tower.

I'm fairly certain that web'n'walk pro is the service used by laptop data cards, they have probably enabled restrictions here to stop heavy usage by laptops, I think the normal mobile services will be safe!

MSN on WnW
In my many calls to T-mobile customer services I have never hidden the fact that I wanted to connect to messenger, and I have never been informed that I cant.
My usage never goes over 2gb, so there is no need for them to look into my account in any depth, nor are there any means of definitively knowing if I am using Messenger anyway!
If you wish you can add the web n walk PRO bolt-on to your account for 9 pounds as opposed to 7.50 for the standard bolt-on. Though all it does is give you peace of mind if you wish to use you phone as a modem, and free access to T-mobile Hotspots.
There is no advantage to upgrading to pro in terms of network speed/usage allowance.
I have been using messenger since april with my web n walk bolt on and have had no issues whatsoever, so read into that what you will.

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mrleoni said:
I have been using messenger since april with my web n walk bolt on and have had no issues whatsoever, so read into that what you will.
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and just to back up what he said, ive been doing the same since april too!

they dont want you to use any IM not because of traffic, but because of lost revenue.
1 sms is around 10p.
1 sms is 160 bytes max.
1 megabyte is 1'048'576 bytes.
i.e. 1 megabyte carries more than 6500 sms
so: for transporting 1 megabyte of data, an operator has revenues of more than £650
imagine how terrified they are of you overloading their network (i.e. their megabyte trnasport facility if you will) and only give them a miserly £8 every month for it.
basically it is a disaster for them if you do more IM and less sms. Hence the T&C's that say they can boot you from their net if you do that (i dont think they will, but their contract gives them option should they choose).
they are living in never never land if they think they can sustain this for any period of time.

well not sure about msgr but real media streaming banned by t-mobile

OK just to clear this matter up.
The MDA VarioII Does NOT support MSN messenger or windows Live Messenger on T-mobile web n walk.
This is a big shortfall in my opinion. It doesn't even allow messenger to run even when the radio is turned off and you have USB or wifi connection!
hence the blocking might not be on the 'T-mobile network' but within the registry of the device!
Anyone got any workarounds/ideas on overcoming this?
BTW: Skype™ for Pocket PC works fine!

skipjack said:
OK just to clear this matter up.
The MDA VarioII Does NOT support MSN messenger or windows Live Messenger on T-mobile web n walk.
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but others above have posted it does work on there vario 2s?
maybe somethings not installed / set up correctly on your device?
only have a vario 1 myself but on t- mobile and have been using the msm features since 1st april when web and walk £7.50 option became available

I have got an MDA Vario II which I purchased direct from T-Mobile via their Website a couple of weeks back on one of their Web'n'Walk tarriffs. MS Messenger was pre-installed on it and I have had no problems logging on and chatting. Surely if they don't want you to use Messenger, they wouldn't include it in the software bundle.
I don't see any problem using it as long as I use it fairly and make sure I don't exceed their fair use limits.

Nicky said:
I have got an MDA Vario II which I purchased direct from T-Mobile via their Website a couple of weeks back on one of their Web'n'Walk tarriffs. MS Messenger was pre-installed on it and I have had no problems logging on and chatting. Surely if they don't want you to use Messenger, they wouldn't include it in the software bundle.
I don't see any problem using it as long as I use it fairly and make sure I don't exceed their fair use limits.
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Not only was it installed on my Vario II, the t-mobile customized manual actually tells you how to set it up. I did query this on a number of occasions and the responce I got was always the same, IMing is not allowed on either web'n'walk or web'n'walk pro.

I have a T-Mobile MDA Vario II, which came pre-installed with Mobile messenger. I installed live messenger mobile, and it worked fine, as it did on my MDA Pro until Microsoft threw a spanner in the works. Messenger is NOT blocked on the Vario II - that is total Bo***cks.
We are all suffering the same problem. I just hope hey bring out the new CAB soon because Agile is just soooooo rubbish in comparison.
I'm waiting with baited breath.

Which programs run?
Hi guys,
sorry for reactivating this old thread. However, I was just wondering if some of the T-Mob UK WnW users could tell me which communication programs they can use without trouble. I experience the following situation:
1.) Live Messenger runs without any problem
2.) Can't get ICQ to work
3.) Skype is possible, though text chat with Skype is not
4.) Couldn't get Fring to work
Can someone please confirm these? Additionally, I'd like to hear whether or not someone managed to use VoIP with the standard WnW bolt on.
N.B.: Don't want to stirr up the "legal" discussion, just want to talk about the technical aspects...
Cheers,
MilchCow

Can Dopod U1000 make calls in Japan?

I know Dopod 900 and other 3G phones can be used in Japan as long as you have a 3G enabled SIM card from your home telco. How about the new U1000? If I buy one in Singapore can I use it during my trips to Japan? This is a major purchase decision point so please help if you can. Thanks!

I can confirm it works. And you need to use a handfree to make call. I used 3HK and CSL SIM card in Japan and works just fine.

jameshuang said:
I can confirm it works. And you need to use a handfree to make call. I used 3HK and CSL SIM card in Japan and works just fine.
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Could you make a GPRS / internet connection with the Dopod U1000 in Japan?

Yes. It works just fine. No problems.

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Yes. It works just fine. No problems.
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That's good news. Could you please tell me how you set up the GPRS connection?
Edit: oops , I see, you are not using a Japanese service, like Softbank, or NTT. I am still trying to find out whether it's possible to use an unlocked Athena with a Softbank SIM card. I know the it would work as phone, but how to set up the GPRS connection would be the problem.

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That's good news. Could you please tell me how you set up the GPRS connection?
Edit: oops , I see, you are not using a Japanese service, like Softbank, or NTT. I am still trying to find out whether it's possible to use an unlocked Athena with a Softbank SIM card. I know the it would work as phone, but how to set up the GPRS connection would be the problem.
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Yes. I use Singtel and use roaming when I'm in Japan. My SIM has the 3G service activated. I hope you can find a telco offering service in Japan. Good luck.

Using Dopod 900 3G PPC in Japan
Hi! Can anyone tell me how to get the Dopod 900 I bought in Malaysia to work here in Japan? Sales clerks are telling me it's not possible. Dopod's site doesn't offer any help. Thanks a lot. I plan to be here for a month or more so it will really help to find out what's true and possible.

Yes I can confirm it works too.

Professorredbag said:
Hi! Can anyone tell me how to get the Dopod 900 I bought in Malaysia to work here in Japan? Sales clerks are telling me it's not possible. Dopod's site doesn't offer any help. Thanks a lot. I plan to be here for a month or more so it will really help to find out what's true and possible.
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Yes it does. As far as I understand if it supports 3G then it should technically work in japan. Too bad I no longer have my Dopod 900 with me to test it out.

Dopod 900 Woes in Japan
Thanks for your replies. The problem is I want a Japanese sim card and number not the roaming services from Malaysia as I have temporarily moved. This what sales clerks are telling me is not possible. They say I must have a Japanese made handphone. !!?? I know they are protectionist here but surely there is a way around the obstacles.. Any specific suggestions? really appreciate your help!

What I know
I am really interested in this too, as I plan on getting an Athena soon. However, I know that you don't need a "Japanese made handphone". They don't like people using different phones on their network, but they can't really stop you.
Well, they probably can technically stop you, but it is highly unlikely that they will. The reason the sales clerk is telling you it is impossible is probably because there are almost NO unlocked phones in Japan. 99.99% of all phones sold here are branded and locked to a specific carrier.
I am a Hermes user and bought my Hermes through Softbank, a carrier here in Japan. I have since reflashed it hundreds of times and have never had a problem with connecting to the network. I also know others on this board who are Kaiser users who have imported their Kaisers from other countries and are using them on Softbank's system with no problems. There was also a big interest in the mobile device geek community of Japan in the Treo 700w when it first appeared, and I have seen blogs of Japanese guys who have got that running on Softbank's system. So it IS definately possible to run non-Softbank phones on Softbank's network provided you have a valid Softbank SIM.
Some caveats:
I have never seen any carrier here just selling SIMs. You will more than likely have to purchase a phone to get a SIM card.
Voice and SMS (text) should work automatically just by popping in the SIM. Data and MMS are more difficult.
Data
There are two ways of connecting to Softbank's data servers, and each is charged differently. One method uses a public access server, but the charges for using this are quite high. This is the server used for people connecting laptops using cellular modems. The other method allow access under Softbank's tiered and capped system, which is the much cheaper and safer option. The connection settings to access this system are very closely guarded and no one to my knowledge has been able to hack them.
However, there is a workaround. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298031
The problem with this workaround is that it requires a program called WIFIwake.exe. And it just so happens that WIFIwake.exe is coded specifically for different machines. On the link above, there is a version for the Universal and a version for the Hermes (the U and H in the .zip file names). Valued member Chaimd hex-edited a file to make it work for Kaiser: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328362&highlight=softbank&page=3. And he seemed to think it was a pretty easy job. If asked nicely, he might be able to hex-edit one for Athena too - or not. I don't know.
MMS
MMS is also more difficult to set up. Basically, it requires a program called MMSLite which can be quirky. The only way to know for sure whether it will work with Athena is to try and see I think. And it does NOT work on WM6.1 systems, so you will have to decide between MMS + WM6 or NoMMS + WM6.1. This is the big reason I am thinking of buying the 7501 rather than the 7510.

After some research...
... on some Japanese sites, it seems that a CID unlocked Athena can use the WIFIwake.exe file meant for the Universal.
Also, MMSLite seems to be working as well. So it seems that on the Softbank network at least the Athena can do it all.

Dopod Woes in Japan
Dear Larsuck,
I appreciate your investing so much time and thought to help me. I'm not even remotely savy enough to understand the complexities of your advice but I do gather that buying a Japanese phone is inevitable. Any suggestions for the cheapest? as I'll just use it for local calls and carry my laptop with me when I need other connectivity.

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Any suggestions for the cheapest? as I'll just use it for local calls and carry my laptop with me when I need other connectivity.
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Huh? So you have decided not to the the Athena? There are tons of really cool phones over here that can do many, many different things - but none of them compare to WM in that they aren't as customizable. Go to the Softbank website (English: http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/en/ ) and check them out.
However, if you want to get the Athena, here are two choices:
1) Get the Athena, come to Japan, get a cheap phone (cheap in the relative sense) here, take the SIM card out of it and put it in the Athena. Do some research on this site and get the Athena up and running. Keep the cheap phone just in case the Athena dies.
2) Get the Athena, come to Japan, get an expensive but slightly subsidized phone, unlock it and sell it on ebay. Use the sim card in your Athena and hope it doesn't die.

Some Questions

Hey all,
Hopefully I'll be buying an XDA Mini S soon from eBay, but have a few questions that I'd like answering (if possible) before hand.
1) Can I use the phone on a PAYG sim card? (I know there are problems with GPRS, but can it be used for evrything else, and is it possible to py for GPRS?)
3) Would it work on a vodafone contract? (I am currently on O2 PAYG but would love free GPRS, the cheapest contract I can find is around £14 on Vodafone. Can anybody reccomend anything cheaper, around the same price or better? Its just that O2 seem to charge an awefull lot, although I really would like to stay with them)
EDIT:
Has anybody used the O2 'business data' tarrifs before? it looks like you can pay just for the internet or something.
Thank you very much in advance.
//James

As long as you get a SIM unlocked device you are free to use any SIM card in there world wide.
The GPRS setting for your provider you can find posted all over the internet. Check your providers homepage first! They often have it in the HELP & F.A.Q. section

Thank you

Can somebody help me? I'm sur ethat there are people around who can answer number 3.
I ordered my Xda Wizard and it will be coming in the post today.

gettin' over charged on softbank using a 8525

Ok so i got charged close to $700 last month...ooooooooouch!!! I use a cingular 8525 unlocked to use softbanks service. I went to the store and they told me there is no way i can get unlimited data without going through their stupid yahoo! browser. If i use anything outside of s! mail and yahoo! browser (like explorer) i will be charged outside of the ulimited data plan they "say" they offer.
I don't thnk this girl knows what she is talking about because the X01HT is sold in japan so that would also apply to them too...i heard there is some like $100/month plan that lets u use anykind of browser and all internet. Does anyone have more information on this. thank you kindly.

You are in the united states and with att?
I'm on the media net unlimited plan and I use my phone for all kinds of stuff. You can get on the pda unlimited plan and use your phone for whatever without extra charges.

It's not a phone hardware issue, it's a software issue.
Probably on the Softbank X01HT they pre-installed a Y! browser and mail software that uses their specific "unlimited" server.
You could try to get that browser and mail software by installing the extended ROM for the softbank X01HT
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms
scroll down until you find the one for Softbank.
DONT ask me how to install it. I did enough as it is to help you.

thank you much for your input...yea i am in japan not us
i am currently using blacks cooked rom so i know enough about installing that stuff...it would suck to have to downgrade though lol.

go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297687&highlight=softbank
Install the stuff and make sure the access point is: open.softbank.ne.jp
Once you click WIFIwake.exe in the windows directory, it should add the password for you in the softbank settings.
THIS SHOULD GIVE YOU ACCESS TO UNLIMITED INTERNET PACKETS for a maximum charge of about 10,000 a month (unless I am mistaken). - Seems to work for me anyways, although I don't think I have ever used a whole lot. It was more of an insurance thing for me to ensure I never got massive phone bills.
One thing though: you should make sure you are signed up to the unlimited plan. Just go to a softbank store and tell them you want "TSUKAI HODAI Interneto accessu" for your x01ht
Finally, does anybody know if this works if I use my softbank as modem to connect to my laptop? In theory it should -- I am just too chicken to try it.