GPS receiver and bluetooth - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hi, Need help.
I've just got an xda exec and i wanted to use tomtom on it so i purchased a Holux GPSlim 236 bluetooth receiver to use with it.
I bought this receiver as i saw that someone on ebay had the same set up and said it worked fine.
The problem i have is that the exec will find the gps receiver but will not seem to talk to it, the instructions that came with it say to go through bluetooth manager but on exec there is no bluetooth manager only option to turn on etc.
Pls help

I use the exact same receiver Holux 236.
I just start bluetooth on XDA EXEC then start Holux ..wait 20 seconds ... turn on TomTom wait for about 60 seconds and it works.
The only think to remeber is that when you first pair the Holux with your XDA EXEC you must tick serial port and make sure it is using COM0.
If COM0 is in use by any other bluetooth device. Delete that device, pair the Holux allocating COM0 and then pair the gadget you deleted again and it should work.
Hope this makes sense and works for you.
Holux 236 is a great device so you will be pleased once all working.

I'm half way there
I've paired the device ok. i've selected incoming com as com 0 and turned everything on in that order.
When i go into tomtom to configure the gps i now get the option com 0 but still no joy any ideas.
Cheers
Simon

sounds like it should work. Thats all I did to get it to work.
Is the blue light on Holux flashing ? and the orange light on ?
Go into tomtom , setup a route and see if that helps.

GPS and TomTom
You need the port set up as an OUTGOING post - not an incoming.
Then it should work fine (whatever com# you have got)
Also ensure the name of the BT GPS when paired/found actually ends in "GPS" - then TomTom will find it fine..
Charlie Grillo

Fixed
You truly are a legend, i'm now up and running
Thank you very much
Simon

I often had a problem with BT GPS connections being unreliable, constantly losing a signal and taking upwards of 10 minutes getting a lock again. What I found out is that when setting up the outgoing connection to COM0 is to uncheck the secure connection box. Since I did that I had no connection, stability or drop off issues. It seems the secure connection actually blocks the GPS signal and messes up the receiver. I have used 3 different Holux units (sent back suspect faulty, now I know different), BT-77 and now Zycast. It happened with my mates Holux as well.
If it doesn't help you it may help others with the same problem anyway.

cgrillo said:
You need the port set up as an OUTGOING post - not an incoming.
Then it should work fine (whatever com# you have got)
Also ensure the name of the BT GPS when paired/found actually ends in "GPS" - then TomTom will find it fine..
Charlie Grillo
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Do you know how to get the XDA EXEC to work with BT GPS
FGPXBT02 as I am really struggling to get this device to work. My phone can see the device in bluetooth but when I run TomTom 5 on the phone the program cannot see the GPS device in the connection.
Any ideas?

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Tom Tom XDA problem

Hi all,
Just go the xda through work, and even though i have got the new version of tom tom of their website (5.2) for ppc, when loaded and docked in my cradle, it cant sem to get the GPS to receive!?!?! anyone else had this problem?
I have an O2 XDA Exec and its working fine with the TomTom 5.2 software. I got some very useful info from http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=6 ..... basically a post on there advised setting up an outgoing com port to the BT GPS device (I used Com0) ... this is found under Start>Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>ComPorts (after you have paired the BT device of course).
In TomTom you then select "Other Bluetooth GPS" in the GPS options screen, select the Com port set previously, and away you go.
I hope this helps
I bought a 32-channel QStarz GPS receiver from eBay, cracking little thing it is. I had problems getting it going though initially - what I had to do was setup a pairing, which was a little tricky as TT didn't want to behave.
Basically, TT tries to establish a serial connection whenever I open it. As TT loaded, just before it went into the TT interface, It showed a dialog box with all my serial connections in - I think it might've been the device pairing screen, but I've not been able to find it again... What I did was pick the gps receiver's serial port device entry I'd previously set up, select it, check the box to tell TT to always connect to this device by default, and then hit enter - all before TT managed to load into the interface. It took me a couple of goes, and I'm sure there's an easier way to do this (I don't think I was even supposed to see this dialog screen ) but now it works perfectly. I don't have to establish the Bluetooth connection to the GPS receiver, TT does that (and it'll even turn the Bluetooth on and off if it's not already on for me). However, I did have to choose Other NMEA GPS from the device options, and then tweak my COM port settings (I found a scant piece of information regardingthe fact that it should be something like COM5 for incoming data and COM6 for outgoing data, you would do well to doublecheck the TomTom site's FAQs for this info). There's a couple of seconds lag whilst TT correctly detects the device and begins to latch onto GPS sats (it says "No Compatible GPS Device Detected!", and then changes to something like "No GPS Signal Detected"... And then starts picking up sats.
This is all with TT5.0, by the way.
This document will be very useful.. principal is the same for most GPS Receivers..
http://www.parrot.biz/ressources/CK3400_Help_Files/Imate JASJAR - TOMTOM Mobile 5 - 2.01.pdf
Not sure if you are trying to receive through a Bluetooth GPS receiver - if you are, this worked for me (first poston the page);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ostorder=asc&highlight=tomtom+5+gps&start=100
Thanks for your help guys, but i meat to say i am using a wired GPS the small square official Tom Tom one, hard wired in to my cradle.
I can open the software and everything, but it just says, cant find GPS, the green light flashes on my GPS, but thats all it does.
Help!
Ok, so you're using a wired receiver.. That helps to know. You should be able to choose TomTom Wired GPS or Other Wired GPS, and it should just... work. If it doesn't, choose the nearest chocie to your receiver, and go into the Advanced settings (if the option button is available) - if so, doublecheck what your COM port settings are.
Where did you buy the cradel from, I just got ripped off to the tune of £48 off ebay due to the cradle not actually passing the srl connection through, all it does is provide power for a Bluetooth GPS Receiver out of the port on the side.
I think I've heard othe rpeople saying that wired GPS receivers will not work with the Universal. Can anyone confirm this?
What you have heard is correct the mini USB on the Exec WILL NOT accept a GPS connection, you need a bluetooth device for this to work - Mike
Tony B - that sounds like the cradle i am using - jasjar or jamjar something like that!
I have put my wired GPS straight in to the side, and nothing!!
think you might have got it mate!
hi there
i am using the wired gps with mda pro tomotm car cradle
tomtom software working like i can start the tomotm and see the setting etc
now when i connect the tomtom wired gps via rj11 in cradle but i can not recieve gps signal
device says "no gps device"
please help
Regrads
Gugi

HOLUX 236 PROBLEM

HI all!this is my first post on the forum and i am glad to be here!
the problem is i cannot connect the holux 236 to the s100 or magician.
rom version is 1.12.00WWE.I tried pocket bluetooth tools but no luck.
the gps viewer gets nothing and also the destinator pn shows that no gps is available...
please help in any way...a walkthrough would be welcome since i am a newbie with ppc...
thanks in advance and keep up the good work!!
Hi, have you had any success with any other gps reciever opr is this the first one you try?
Suppose you have tries to enter the sw program and then configure the reciever with your magician? Is this where the trouble is?
this is the first one to use.
s100 gives com 5 to the gps but still no luck with ddestinator.states that no gps is present.
maybe a bluetooth stack problem?
could use all the help i can get..............
Ive just ordered a Holux 236 from Fleabay, should be here in a few days, will post my settings if I get it working ok
is the holux 236gps mini actually compatible with the QTEK S100??????????
Hi
Switch on Bluetooth and Pair the device using pass key 0000
Then DO NOT connect the device
Enter GPS Viewer 1.5 and select (Bluetooth) COM Port 6 (may be something else on your device). Select Open GPS and you should start getting data...
Hope that helps
The whole problem is that I cannot get my Qtek 9100 to show the spp slave service. This seems to be a qtek problem because none of my other BT devices will show it either. They showed fine with my old HP 6365. :?
I am not sure in that case... I cannot remember but does it use Widcomm Stack or M$?
I'm not sure what stack they use. I don't think it's Widcomm, because my HP BT keyboard won't connect and the reason is that it says there is no Widcomm stack. Go figure.
if thats the case,how do we solve it?third party software?change bluetooth stack?and if yes how.........?and i thought it would be plug n play...
OK, I have this BT receiver, works perfectly with my mini. Have you added any bluetooth stacks in addition the default ? When you search for devices does the Bt find the Holux? Is it switched on and charged? Don't know how new you are to bluetooth devices, but bear in Mind that a brand new Bt device out of the box may take up to 30 minutes to get a fix for the first time.
no new stacks added,device is charged.
gps pairs with s100,asks if it should create a port,i reply yes and i press finish.in the bluetooth menu at the com ports i press new outgoing port and i am asked to choose a device.i select holux,press next and nothing happens....so whats the deal here?in the bluetooth serial port setup i check the outbound com port:com 5 beforehand.so please tell me what am i doing wrong this time....is there something i didnt do or something i did...?
Ok, so the pairing came up fine. Thats one thing out of the way.
Now, forget selecting outgoing or incoming ports, its completely useless, doesn't work. I have TOMTOM and have selected "Other Bluetooth Device" and selected COM5, it works fine. Could be your com port is being occupied by other bluetooth such as Activesync.
Delete all paired devices, Go to Start, Settings, Bluetooth Setting and check that "Outbound COM port: COM5" is ticked only, click OK then try pairing your Holux and try again. It does work with the mini, I promise!!
I got a 236 slim and no problem with MS BT stack.
try to connect as explained by moghisi101, it should work
WELL i did try,trust me!at what point should the orange led light up???it should first communicate with the gps viewer and then start blinking or something?cause so far the orange led has not shown its colors........is this normal or do i have a faulty gps?????????????
Hmmm sounds like a faulty unit. Ive had my 236 for a couple of days now and it worked first time with Tomtom, just selected 'Other device' and 'Com5'
Im really impressed by this unit, even gets 5-6 satellites indoors !
When you turn the unit on the orange LED should be on all the time (searching) then after about 45 secs it should start to flash indicating that it has locked onto satellites. If you arent getting any light from the orange LED it does suggest a faulty unit
HTH

Cannot connect 8125 to my holux bluetooth gps...WHy?

I just bought a holux gpslim 236 bluetooth gps receiver and my cingular 8125 wont connect to it through bluetooth. Is there a reason for this. Thanks in advance for the help
Can you explain the steps you have tried in order to connect it? I just received mine yesterday so I'm pretty fresh on setting these up. Feel free to PM me for more help.
I think you need to set up a port to the gps. Goto the bluetooth icon in the system tab where you set up and bonded the gps and the PPC.
Edit the setup and in there, there is an option to set up a serial port. Setup an outgoing port on com 6. That should do it
This about the 5th time I've seen this with the Holux 236 (both in the forums and personal experience)... If you've followed the instructions and still can't get it to pair, take it back and try a new device...mine was bad out of the box.
Got it thanks
it paired perfectly with my 8125...my problem was that the blue blinking light representing blouetooth was on hadnt been on in the first place, maybe it had something to do with charging it. It eventually worked and now tomtom + holux is awesome. and...i got it for 191 including shipping. The holux is a sirf star III chip set( the best one out now) so i think its work it. Good luck to others!
try this
use the BT Com tools from here and see if that works....
HOLUX GPSlim works fine for me with TomtoM 5..
http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/
i am also attaching the file for you to use

Bluetooth GPS Woes

Hi,
I seem to be having a problem with GPS bluetooth related connections with my Dopod 838 Pro.
Ive paired my Globalsat BT338 receiver and setup an outgoing serial port on my Dopod, and I can use Destinator 6 and TomTom 6 fine (for the time being).
The next day/time when I try to start the GPS applications, both programs report that they cant find the GPS signal/receiver even though its been correctly configured to work previously.
I then have to enter the Bluetooth settings to change and assign another outgoing serial port and reconfigure the GPS applications to the new serial port to work.
The programs and the GPS receiver worked fine with my old iPAQ hx4700 so its not a receiver or program issue.
I'm at my wits end and would appreciate any info on solving this problem.
Thanks in advance.
Delete / unpair your GPS
Make a new pair, and when you assign an outgoing COM port, use a NON secure COM port.
(Deselect the checkbox)
This should work
Rik_053 said:
Delete / unpair your GPS
Make a new pair, and when you assign an outgoing COM port, use a NON secure COM port.
(Deselect the checkbox)
This should work
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Hi,
Ive been through this unpair / pair scenario more than a few times and Ive never used a secure com port connection.
try destinator PN 6
also make sure you pair BEFORE starting Destinator PN; I spent a whole two days before I Got this to work ... then once it worked .. the answer was actually quite logical
sorry cant remember how i did it as it was months ago when I got and paired my tytn; now I use destinator pn 6
njay22 said:
try destinator PN 6
also make sure you pair BEFORE starting Destinator PN; I spent a whole two days before I Got this to work ... then once it worked .. the answer was actually quite logical
sorry cant remember how i did it as it was months ago when I got and paired my tytn; now I use destinator pn 6
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Hi,
The pairing has been done before any program was launched.
Im trying with both destinator 6 and tomtom 6
Bluetooth GPS Woes...
Is it the Bluetooth connection you are having problems with or getting a GPS signal. I have this exact setup working fine. What I notice is that often it will take a few minutes for the BT-338 to find enough satellites to provide a GPS signal (green light flashing). The bluetooth should connect immediately regardless of whether the GPS signal is available yet. The blue light on the BT-338 should flash twice as fast as when you first turn it on to tell you that it is connected to a Bluetooth device.
I am using TomTom 6 and it will say no GPS signal or GPS signal lost XX seconds ago. Is this similar to what you are noticing?
clearwave1 said:
Is it the Bluetooth connection you are having problems with or getting a GPS signal. I have this exact setup working fine. What I notice is that often it will take a few minutes for the BT-338 to find enough satellites to provide a GPS signal (green light flashing). The bluetooth should connect immediately regardless of whether the GPS signal is available yet. The blue light on the BT-338 should flash twice as fast as when you first turn it on to tell you that it is connected to a Bluetooth device.
I am using TomTom 6 and it will say no GPS signal or GPS signal lost XX seconds ago. Is this similar to what you are noticing?
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Hi,
Both the bluetooth reciever and the software work fine and obtain a fix.
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
the gps reciver obtains a fix but the pda cant see it.
Destinator PN has an automatic reconnect tick box on the GPS Settings page. I don't know if D6 or TT have a similar thing. If so, make sure this box is ticked.
I use D PN with a Parrot CK3300 combined handsfree and GPS receiver, and after major stuffing around trying to get D PN set to the correct port initially, it has worked fine since.
Ive sorted the issue out and hopefully this will help others experiencing the same problem.
The problem was that although an outgoing serial port was setup, for some reason it was not mapped to the bluetooth device.
It just specified "COM9" instead of having the bluetooth device "BT338(COM9)" under the bluetooth COM Ports setting.
This seems to be the reason why when the device was unpaired/paired and a com port setup it worked for the time being. After the bluetooth device was disconnected the settings mapping to the device were not retained.
Rambler76,
I am looking to get a GPS unit for my Dopod 838Pro. Which of the two, Destinator or Tom Tom, do you like best?
I know where to get Destinator 6 in Sydney, where does one get Tom Tom 6?
Rambler76 said:
Hi,
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
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Can I ask, with a new com port being asssigned each time you have a problem, when you run out of ports what happens?
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Does this make any sense?
Thanks for any input ..
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killabeezz said:
Rambler76 said:
Hi,
the next time the software is started it cant find the reciver and i have to unpair, repair and set a new comm port for it to work.
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Can I ask, with a new com port being asssigned each time you have a problem, when you run out of ports what happens?
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Does this make any sense?
Thanks for any input ..
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hi,
what i mean to say is that i switch com ports.
the issue was resolved by mapping the com port to the bluetooth device.
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Yes I understand what you have done but can I ask again :-
Are you able to regain the use of these once assigned ports ? by resetting any settings ?
Thanks,,
Tom Tom Woes
Hi,
I had the same problem until recently.
To fix I did the following:
Delete pair with GPS receiver,
Create new pair with GPS receiver (put in passkey 0000)
Tick the box for Serial Port
The in Bluetooth Settings -> COM Ports tab, I clicked 'New Outgoing Port'
Selected the GPS unit, and selected Port 4 and unticked the 'Secure' checkbox
Now open TomTom, Select Change Preferences, then Show GPS Status, then Configure, then Other Bluetooth Receiver, then Select COM 4.
Now TT works as it should - turning on and off Bluetooth on Open/Close, and no problems with needing to re-pair.
Previously I had always paired the BT GPS on COM 0 with Secure ticked. This worked the first time only, and I had to re-create the same pair each time I wanted to run the app.
Hope this helps some of you.
(btw I was using TT6 when I found the solution, but I imagine it would have worked for 5 too)
dopod bluetooth problems
Guys I have the same problem with my bluetooth and my dopod. It connects then disconnects.
I have also noticed that the systems unchecks the turn on bluetooth check box and the make this device discoverable to other devices.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Guys I just read this at another forum.
"The Dopod 838 pro and WM5 have chronic problems with the bluetooth stack, which is why everyone is waiting for the new ROM to appear, which will hopefully be WM6. HTC (manufacturers of Dopod 838 pro) announced that the new ROM will fix all of the known problems"
This I learn after having a car accident (minor) in my car playing with the bluetooth and trying to get it to work. Hutchison 3g should only be selling these with a warning.
I assume there is also a problem with the JasJam as they are the same phone.
Knight__Mayor said:
Hi,
To fix I did the following:
The in Bluetooth Settings -> COM Ports tab, I clicked 'New Outgoing Port'
Selected the GPS unit, and selected Port 4 and unticked the 'Secure' checkbox
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Have to concur with Knight_Mayor. Was having trouble getting a signal/satellite fix using a Holux GPSlim236. Then I set it to COM9 with the "Secure" box unchecked. I had barely closed the window and my M3100 had a fix from inside my house! (tomtom 6 had been running in the background whilst the adjustments were being made)
dabs1 said:
Have to concur with Knight_Mayor. Was having trouble getting a signal/satellite fix using a Holux GPSlim236. Then I set it to COM9 with the "Secure" box unchecked. I had barely closed the window and my M3100 had a fix from inside my house! (tomtom 6 had been running in the background whilst the adjustments were being made)
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yeah i recon its the screwy MS bluetooth stack, im interested to hear from anyone running tomtom on hermes with the widcomm bluetooth
Tomtom And Gps
I have found that the best cure for gps woes and pocket pc is to use GPS Gate. It make a virtual com port and will always be the same. I have used it always and never have problems connecting.
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Tomtom 6 installed, by no GPS?

I've just installed tomtom 6 on my pda and also got it all paired up with by bluetooth gps. Also opened com0 as an outgoing port. I can see in the gps status screen the little yellow and blue circle going round, but i cant seem to pick up any sattelites, have kept in the same position for over 40mins. I used the same gps unit on my old MDA III pda and it worked perfect.
Is there anything else i need to do?
You could try downloading and trying VisualGPSce or summat to test the output from the GPS BT unit, just in case it's a TT issue.
You might even have some sort of other SW on your PPC confirming the information received from your BT GPS
Have tried the above program but dont get any response from it. Not too sure what the problem could be.
Anyone else with a similar issue?
So you've switched on your bluetooth gps unit and paired the two, and you know that's all working. Except that no gps unit can see it?
I've paired up my Vario II with the GPS unit. Opened and outgoing Com port (i've tried com0 and com4). Now i start tomtom through preeference etc i select the correct com port. Now the yellow/black icon starts to move, but even after an hour of standing in one place in the open air i dont get any gps response.
And i used the same gps unit on TT5.
Connecting a non-tomtom gps to tomtom 6
1. You need to pair your bluetooth GPS to your TYTn
2. you need to connect it to a com-port (take a high port like 9)
3. start tomtom and set a non-tomtom bluetooth gps at com 9
thats it.
hmmm, i've tried the above too on com9 but no change. The gps device does work as it worked with TT5.
ump001 said:
hmmm, i've tried the above too on com9 but no change. The gps device does work as it worked with TT5.
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My be the GPS device is faulty... test with another app, test with windows mobile live search maps, is freeware http://wls.live.com/
My COM Settings
As a novice, I went through a lot of trial and error before getting my GPS to work.
My COM Ports settings now work fine:
BT GPS (COM9)
Incoming Port (COM2)
Have you set an incoming as well as an outgoing port? Maybe a silly question.
beam
try turning off beam receive all incoming beams this makes it work on xda1 this might help
Time has come said:
As a novice, I went through a lot of trial and error before getting my GPS to work.
My COM Ports settings now work fine:
BT GPS (COM9)
Incoming Port (COM2)
Have you set an incoming as well as an outgoing port? Maybe a silly question.
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You shouldn't need an incoming port.. only outgoing.. (at least on the 10 or so BT GPS unit's ive tried none have needed it)
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(Also note on the hermes you cant use COM8 reliably as it messes with the USB Modem options as they seem to use COM8 internally so stay clear of that one)
VisualGPSce doesnt seem to work properly on my hermes.. I use free.mytracking.net's client to test gps easily.. just set the right com port and hit start.. ignore the user/pass bit as thats not important.. if you have a good signal you will get a green bar and number of satellites if communications are working and a red bar and 0 satellites if they are not.
Make sure you do not have the "secure connection" box ticked in port settings, otherwise you will not connect.
Tytn has an interesting feature: To pick up a satellite signal with TomTom 6 the radio of the Tytn must be switched ON. If the radio is switched off no signal is beeing received from the bluethooth device.
Thanks
char05 said:
Tytn has an interesting feature: To pick up a satellite signal with TomTom 6 the radio of the Tytn must be switched ON. If the radio is switched off no signal is beeing received from the bluethooth device.
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Configured lots of tomtom and GPS. Paired, outgoing, no secure, etc. I Know how.
Flashed to WM6 and spent all the afternoon till I read this thread.
Almost fool!
Thanks a lot, man!!

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