How to separate GPRS/EDGE from wi-fi when browsing? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

So, before I hard reset my device recently, I could simply fire up wifi while my constant-on "push email" was on and connected. Browsing on pIE was utilizing the wifi connection.
Now, I don't know what is different, but when I enable a wifi connection while the constant-on EDGE is established, the wi-fi connection is extremely flaky, i.e. long "Locating...", downloading half a page and then pausing, etc.
Is there anything that you could think of that I haven't possibly to correct this? In order to fully and stably use my wifi connection for browsing, it seems I first must disconnect from my provider's connection, whereas before, this was not necessary.... :?

OK, so think I've hit upon a bug either in WM5 or specific to the ROM.
There was a thread over at Modaco about changing your DNS servers to more responsive ones, cutting down on the "Locating..." times of your GPRS or EDGE account.
It appears that when I change my DNS servers of GPRS/EDGE-related account, it affects a subsequent wi-fi connection. When I remove the DNS servers, I am able to simply make a wi-fi connection and pIE browsing will defaut to using wi-fi.
However, if I have DNS servers entered under the EDGE account, I have to first disconnect the EDGE connection before I can successfully use pIE over a wi-fi connection....
This is strange, as the 2 accounts should be totally unrelated. Does anyone else see this behavior?

im also having the same problem, when i browse wifi, it stays on locating for a long time until the edge connection drops. its really annoying. can anyone help out on this? because obviously nobody helped when i brought out this same problem.

Well, as I mentioned you can simply disconnect your EDGE connection, but you shouldn't have to.
Did you make sure you have no "manual" DNS entries or specify an IP address in your GPRS/EDGE account? If so, remove them and change to "assign by server".
When you do that, you can use the wifi connection while your EDGE connection is maintained.
But, my question above relates to why this is even necessary if the 2 connections are entirely unrelated. It's as if manual IP entries are somehow carried over to the wi-fi connection.

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DirectPush via Wifi instead of cellular-line - AUTD

I have just updated my wizard to the newest Qtek-ROM (186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship.exe) with AKU2/MSFP and DirectPush. Everything works fine when I am using a cellular-line.
As soon as I change to a Wifi the ActiveSync tells me the error 85020013: "Your current sync schedule requires a cellular data connection. Please set up a cellular data connection as described in online Help or change the sync schedule." Whats that :evil:? Is there a way to setup DirectPush with a Wifi-connection?
As far as I know Directpush works only with GPRS not via Wifi.
If you disable directpush in your active sync it can connect via WIFI and your error will be gone.
It will sync by wifi even if directpush is enabled but this error will come back every time it sync's according to its schedule.
But your device has to be switched on for this.
Cheers,
Drifter
I had the same question for days.....
Every peace of information you read about microsoft Direct Push says it's possible to sync using gprs AND wifi.
But.... as soon as direct push is enabled and only wifi is available the dreaded error appears.
It doesn't make sense..... wifi is, just as gprs is, a normal IP connection which supports the heartbeat signal en HTTPs notification.
Perhaps someone could clarify this matter
I can try.
Possibliity one:
Its got something to do with the legal IP address associated with the Wizard. This address is crucial to the "always on" connection since there's an IP socket associated with it for port 443 (or 80 if you don't use HTTPS) on the FrontEnd Exchange server. If the IP changes, then the connection is dropped and has to be re-established. That in itself is no big deal, but I believe that there is no mechanism in place to notify Direct Push on the Wizard that this has happened.
(more likely) Possiblity two:
There must be some low-level tie to the Direct push app from the GPRS connection that allows it to function when the device is in standby mode. Have you ever noticed that your WiFi connection is dropped when you place your wizard into standby mode by pressing the power button?
Yep.... i've noticed the WIFI standy but it still would be nice te recieve pushed mails as soon as i start using the wizard.
All this without having to do the manual operations.
Perhaps something for the future.................
@Sleuth255: I am convinced that possibility two is the right one.
Wifi takes a lot of power (at least with my wizard it seems so) and so they don't let it on when the device is in standby (you are right). Switching off GPRS or GSM wouldn't be so clever for a phone so this is probably the reason for making DirectPush only work with a cellular connection.

WiFi and GPRS

For some reason I can connect to the internet very easily through GPRS (even when roaming), but at home with my own wirelss LAN, I can connect with no problem, but each time I try to access anything on the internet, I get a pop-up stating "Could not locate remote server". I don't have a router, I am using a desktop as the gateway, I am currently accessing the net with my laptop through the same means. All configurations for the LAN appear to be correct, but I must be missing something on the JAMin. In the WiFi settings, I see the LAN, almost full signal - Ad hoc Mode - status is connected - I'm assigned an IP ... seems like everything is in order.
Will one of you wizards point out what I've missed? I know it's probably simple, usually is.
If I'm having trouble connecting a device to a network that has previously been working ok, the first that I do is turn off all network security i.e WEP, MAC address filtering etc. Then reboot the wireless access point/router and your device. If you still can't connect, you can start to blame your device.
Don't think it's a network prob...
Thanks Matterhorn, but my laptop is still connected fine, no problems there... I get the feeling that the PPC's only recognising the GPRS as a valid network for internet access... it works okay when I login to a commercial WiFi network (when I'm in the States) but for some reason on my own network here at home, it logs in, just can't find a server for some reason. The first thing I thought of was the firewall, turned it off and still no luck.
Any other ideas? I thought maybe there was a setting for default AP or connection, but can't find it, nor can I find an appropriate reference in the manual. Ugh!
Resolved!
It would seem my JAMin was trying to access the internet not through the gateway, but through my laptop. As I don't have the laptop setup to share an internet connection, it would allow my JAMin to connect, but that was all. I went in the room where my desktop is, registered on the network there and bingo!
Too simple, should have tried that right away but it didn't occur to me at the time. Thanks for the help anyway Matterhorn!

Broken network stack? IE stuck at locating...

Hi,
I tried to connect my tytn to my wifi network for the first time yesterday, and couldn't get any web pages to load.
I was connected to the router, and had an IP address assigned by DHCP, but whenever I tried to load any pages in IE, it sat at 'locating' for ages and then errored.
I thought nothing of it and thought I'd give it another try later. But since then, I get the same problem when I try to browse via activesync. The device syncs properly and is connected, but I can't load any web pages.
My first thought was a DNS problem so I've tried setting some static servers but I'm not getting anywhere. I tried 'Microsoft Network Analyzer' which gives me ticks in all the tests (even the one where it pings www.microsoft.com, when I can't browse to there).
I'm now thinking that when I'm connected via activesync it's still trying to use the wifi connection somehow (even though it's turned off). In the network adaptors, wifi is set to DHCP but has an ipv6 address in the box under static IP (odd, as my router doesnt use ipv6).
I'm pretty lost now. I could do a hard reset but I've got a feeling I'd end up in the same place when I next try to get wifi to connect at home.
Any ideas?
StarMonkee said:
Hi,
I tried to connect my tytn to my wifi network for the first time yesterday, and couldn't get any web pages to load.
I was connected to the router, and had an IP address assigned by DHCP, but whenever I tried to load any pages in IE, it sat at 'locating' for ages and then errored.
I thought nothing of it and thought I'd give it another try later. But since then, I get the same problem when I try to browse via activesync. The device syncs properly and is connected, but I can't load any web pages.
My first thought was a DNS problem so I've tried setting some static servers but I'm not getting anywhere. I tried 'Microsoft Network Analyzer' which gives me ticks in all the tests (even the one where it pings www.microsoft.com, when I can't browse to there).
I'm now thinking that when I'm connected via activesync it's still trying to use the wifi connection somehow (even though it's turned off). In the network adaptors, wifi is set to DHCP but has an ipv6 address in the box under static IP (odd, as my router doesnt use ipv6).
I'm pretty lost now. I could do a hard reset but I've got a feeling I'd end up in the same place when I next try to get wifi to connect at home.
Any ideas?
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Check your connection settings. Some carriers have proxies enabled for your GPRS connection. If you have proxy active, you will not be able to connect through a router. AT&T does this, for example.
Yep, that was it!
My GPRS was set up under 'My Work Connection', and had a proxy server. I disabled the proxy and activesync started working.
So I completely cleared out the 'My Work Network' connection, and added a new one for my providers GPRS which made activesync work. I then set the preferred networks to Work first, then GPRS second, and everything works.
Thanks

hotmail connected via cellar not wifi

Hi there,
I have a question about an annoying problem that I've only managed to find one (unanswered) question to on the web.
I am currently using WM6.1 and I use to read email from my Hotmail account, amongst other things. The problem is that the messaging client ALWAYS tries to download my mail via 3G/GPRS even when there's a WiFi connection available. This occurs both when I initiate the send/receive using TouchFlo 3D or from within the mail client.
Connection manager is, as far as I'm aware, configured correctly, and PIE/Opera/weather will all happily use WiFi to connect to the internet, only using my data connection when WiFi isn't available.
The same results occur with connection manager configured in either of the following ways:
Internet Connection = "My ISP" settings with 3G modem connection
Work Connection = Default "My Work Network" settings
WiFi Access Point = Connects to Internet
Network Card = Connects to Internet
OR
Internet Connection = "My Work Network" with 3G modem connection and "This network connects to the internet" enabled
Work Connection = As Internet Connection
WiFi Access Point = Connects to Work
Network Card = Connects to Work
Interestingly, if I disable my data connection and enable WiFi I CAN send/receive mail over the WiFi connection, so it seems like the data connection is being used in preference to the WiFi one.
Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?!
Thanks,
Mike
Known issue and it is a pain as I don't have any mobile coverage in the house but I do have a wifi network but can't sync hotmail through Wifi
Same frustrating issue here. Hate it.
Even tried the modaco nodata hack so that windows live didn't even know that I had data, and with wifi going great it just says there is no connection. Pretty retarded.
yes mines too there should be away to change this Setting.
This is a real pain for sure. But I have experienced that if I turn off the phone copletely and then connect to the internet via WiFi hotmail does sync via the WiFi-connection. Just thought that I would mention this as a possible last resort.
It may also give some ideas to people trying to fix this... shortcoming.
trondkk said:
This is a real pain for sure. But I have experienced that if I turn off the phone copletely and then connect to the internet via WiFi hotmail does sync via the WiFi-connection. Just thought that I would mention this as a possible last resort.
It may also give some ideas to people trying to fix this... shortcoming.
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Hmm strange I will have to try this out.
Thanks!
any Updates?
I have this same problem as well
The only way seems to be to turn your phone off and then use Wifi.
oh i will try it so basically turn the Phone on Airplane Mode

This is going to sound stupid, but I am stumped...

I am sorry if this turns out to be a stupid/obvious question, but right now I just cannot figure this out! So apologies in advance...
I have a regular data plan associated with my phone, so when I am out and about, I can access the web without problems. At home, the phone will connect either to my own WiFi hotspot (secured) or to my neighbour's (unsecured), and all continues to be well.
Now, while I am at work, I would like the phone to also connect to my office's hotspot, which it does without problems. However, since this connection requires the use of a proxy to connect to the web, I do not get anywhere.
How do I associate the use of a proxy to a specific WiFi profile/connection, and not to the others which are also configured on the phone?
Also, is there a way to tell the phone to give priority to the WiFi connection when available over the 3g connection, or is this done automatically?
TIA!
It's not stupid, there's no separate proxy setting for each Wi-Fi network, just the general "Internet/Work" thingie, but even that wouldn't help because many programs would ignore it (just like it will happen on "big" Windows, by the way - not all programs use IE settings).
So the only workaround I know is to set up your proxy in Opera and turn it on and off manually each time you change networks.
WiFi profiles
Solution is application called WiFi profiles. You can define settings for every wireless network that you use
Thank you very much to both!
I will look into the WiFi Profiles app...

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