Is is possible to extract files from an NK.NBF file? I am interested in just pulling all the CAB files from within. If so, how?
Thanx.
Another semi-related question...
Is there any way to install a phone rom WITHOUT the extended_rom section so as to have more memory available on the phone? Seems kinda useless to have all that stuff in extended_rom that is only used on install.
Thanx again.
Okay...need only four CAB files...can ne1 help me out here?
T-Mobile HotSpot Login Utility
OZ Communications OZ IM
DAT MailTrigger
Winwap Technologies Oy WinWAP
Thanx.
stmasi said:
Is is possible to extract files from an NK.NBF file? I am interested in just pulling all the CAB files from within. If so, how?
Thanx.
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stmasi said:
Another semi-related question...
Is there any way to install a phone rom WITHOUT the extended_rom section so as to have more memory available on the phone? Seems kinda useless to have all that stuff in extended_rom that is only used on install.
Thanx again.
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The answer to the first question is yes. You have to: use typho5 tool (search the forum for it) to extract the extrom from the nk.nbf file; use winimage (windows xp shareware) to open the extrom .nb file.
The answer to the second question is no, you cannot join the extrom partition to the main one. It was possible with Magicians (the phones!) but no one has been able to do the same in wizards.
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How can I remove from the original ROM some files like T-Mobile, AIM ... etc. ?
I cooked up a 4.00.10 T-Mobile with GPRS monitor and batterypack but i want some more addons.
Can someone tell me what steps are required to remove from the ROM some files ?
Thanks,
Decebal
ROM = Read Only Memory.
But, i've we're able to add Programs to the ROM in the ROMkitchen, i think we're also able to remove programs.
Regards
Stefan
cruisin-thru said:
ROM = Read Only Memory.
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obviously i do not deserve that
i was talking about the ROM image and since i've already succeded in putting into the ROM two apps i want to try something else.
so if anyone know how to remove at least T-mobile and AIM files from the image i'll be happy.
thanks,
Decebal
I believe they are in an area not able to be modified.
I was just quoting from that site, it does state that it cannot be erased, modified etc, no offence meant here. :roll:
The mkrom tools will allow you to 'unpack' a rom, i.e. extract all the files that are in it.
A rom, to the best of my understanding, has a 'native' or stock part to it, and then a series of XIP chains -- programs that are added into the free spaces of the rom.
I dont know what happens if you try to remove files from a rom that are part of the standard build...
Maybe the TMobile stuff is in a 'removeable' section of the ROM... there is also the 'operator' section... I am assuming that is a location that will give the 'operator' or creator of the rom space to put specialized programs, such as TMobiles phone apps, etc.
So, it seems that your best bet is to get the mkrom tools and read about how to extract/remove files/rebuild a rom.
Hey, it may even work!
J
You can rebuild a rom image from extracted files and leave some files out but Mkrom does not use compression and therefore the rom you end up with will probably be bigger than the rom you started with.
Richard
If I am correct, an eeprom is something else than a flash-rom.
so the article at least states it incorrectly.
if it is flash, you should be able to modify it.
XDA developer Itsme said:
If I am correct, an eeprom is something else than a flash-rom.
so the article at least states it incorrectly.
if it is flash, you should be able to modify it.
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Now, I do think that the real question is "How do we unlock the 'ROM' so that it can be modified being that it is an eeprom?"
Misterdollymaker
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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this is quite interesting...can you elaborate further?? I wish to learn more...
cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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Yes, please! I wish to learn more too! I am looking to remove the standard sounds and replace them with my own (using same names) as well as the boot image and desktop.
yea, no kiddin, i'd like to know how too!
im sure its not impossible, 'they' did it the first time arround.
why not hacking it? and since its all at no charge (no profit) are we realy breaking any patents?
I wanted to know if there is an easy :wink: way around, to put our own programs in the rom. xda-developers certainly can't put ezwap2.5, and the total commander appears to be older version, while new version is much better. There are some more freeware application I'd love to put in there
xda-developers already posted some tools to do job, such as MKROM ...
cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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I'm interested too
How can i add/delete file from nb1 file?
Thanks
Fabio
I've used mkrom suite to do this (even for Smartphone2002). This are great tools.
Unfortunately it's not as easy as you might think. It's nearly impossible to build a ZERO-KNOWLEDGE ROM file explorer which can add or delete files "on the fly".
You will still have to look for valid gap's in the original rom where you can add a new XIP block.
All .exe and .dll files are "fixed up" that means they MUST run at THE fixed ROM position where they have been initially placed (execute in place). If you dump an exe or dll file you can't use it for other than disassembly to see how things work.
Removing files is a very hard task (they are splitted over the whole rom). And the resulting gap's are mostly not more than 10-16 kB. All you can do is to "hide" files (simply patch the directory entry).
So you see compression is not the real problem (see programers corner for a .bib file which can be used with romimage.exe - a Microsoft Tool to build XIP blocks, this tool supports compression)
John Smith
only the kernel actually runs in the virtual memory area mapped to rom,
all the other XIP stuff runs from a virtual memory area mapped somewhere
in the top of each processes memory space.
( look at the 'real=' values in the output of dumprom )
so for all the other modules it should be possible to move them around
in rom a bit, I think you only need to keep the pagealignment the same.
Hi,
The virtual memory address is also fixed in the module. (That's why I've to rebuild all the stuff I want to copy from other roms).
Since all relocation info is gone the module can't run from another memory position. So the only thing you can do is to move it in it's own XIP section...
John
Hello,
I've been using XDA from two weeks and now I know that it's fantastic machine .
My questions are:
1) How can process some application (which is distributed like *.exe file and it's installed by ActiveSync) to *.cab file? I'd like to install all application by hand using cabInstaller (and store all of application on my SD card).
2) I can't download ROMkitchen from xda-developers.com (I read instructions on page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ROMkitchen)
Thanks for your answers.
1 often you can just rename the exe file to zip and extract the cab file from inside it's the one named something with arm
2 do you want to make your own online kitchen ?
or are you looking to just build a rom if so
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
Rudegar said:
1 often you can just rename the exe file to zip and extract the cab file from inside it's the one named something with arm
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Thanks, you are right, some programs are distributed like selfextracting zip. I found other solution: ActiveSync allows to choose between the destination in memory or storage card.
Rudegar said:
2 do you want to make your own online kitchen ?
or are you looking to just build a rom if so
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
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I'd like to make my own kitchen becouse I will have better control all details
also about 1 then some programs install to somewhere on the pc
and in that dir they keep all their cab files which you can then copy to the xda as you see fit
swierczu said:
I'd like to make my own kitchen becouse I will have better control all details
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Take a look at http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/
I have there a basic set for creating your own kitchen.....
But the file is about 25 MB.
It would be fine, if you download it between 8 pm and 8 am MEZ cause in this time i've got more upload speed....
HTH
Stefan
LumpiStefan said:
Take a look at http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/
I have there a basic set for creating your own kitchen.....
But the file is about 25 MB.
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Thanks a lot for your kitchen! I downloaded your basic set kitchen but thare isn't a wm2003 rom I'm using wm2003 rom from your site ...
Best regards,
Bartlomiej Swiercz
how can it be done?
is there a wiki page about it?
fyi: i need cab files from extended roms
use ER2003Edit,find it in ftp ... :wink:
here u go ftp://[email protected]/Tools/
i thought that was not possibe for anything else then the XDAII? I need it for all devices, basically
What this tool can't do:
* Edit other ROM images than those for the xda2
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i've heard xda2jojo talking about newer version that doesn't require password....i'll dig in the forum...brb :wink:
"Download the latest version of windows mobile 2003 rom editor that bypass the password... "this is what xda2jojo said in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26094&highlight=
theoretically,by bypassing the password u can open any ext ROM....theoretically....ok....i didn't try it :wink:
I can open up extended rom files for the Himalaya no problem, but this too wont allow me to open extended rom files from ROMs other then the one meant for the Himalaya...so I cant open extended rom files for Magician/ Universal/ Wizard/Blue Angel...thats what I mean
thx for the effort though
sorry i couldn't help .....but i've got this idea concerning blueangel.....try unlocking the ext ROM and extract the files :wink: ....though,u still need a blueangel device,and i don't know if other device have ext ROM unlocker..
no worries
As we know, to upgrade ATOM ROM we have to lauch an exe file downloaded from seeo2.com. But we cannot extract any file from this exe file except Boot.nb0 and this file is useless. Does anyone know how to extract other files from it. As I know, there are at least following files inside this exe file:
eboot.nb0
dm.nb0
flash.img
agent.mot
mot.mot
CPLD.img
assetinf.img
extended.img
MDOC.img
Its strange that there is no .nbf file at all. Is there any method to dump the ROM from a working ATOM? Can the Grabit utility grap ATOM ROM to SD? Will it be usable ?
I have dumped it already and uploaded here, but i do not remember are the files you search there.
Tamagochi said:
As we know, to upgrade ATOM ROM we have to lauch an exe file downloaded from seeo2.com. But we cannot extract any file from this exe file except Boot.nb0 and this file is useless. Does anyone know how to extract other files from it. As I know, there are at least following files inside this exe file:
eboot.nb0
dm.nb0
flash.img
agent.mot
mot.mot
CPLD.img
assetinf.img
extended.img
MDOC.img
Its strange that there is no .nbf file at all. Is there any method to dump the ROM from a working ATOM? Can the Grabit utility grap ATOM ROM to SD? Will it be usable ?
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When you double click the exe file, it will extract files to Windows\Temp foler, files are all hidden.
I'm not sure if this is correct, but I was provided with
Xda-Atom-ENG-20060123_Feb2006_.exe
Double click. This will extract to your root drive
c:\
Device Software Update Utility.exe
diskimage_Ver.nb0
Extendedrom.img
nova_pda_033105.mot
vl1d_pda_Ver.mot
Extendedrom.img can be opened with winimage.
diskimage_Ver.nb0 - can't remember how I dealt with it, but in the "usual" ways I guess! Mamaich's romtools I suppose. Thanks Mamaich!
If anyone can, I could still really do with a live rom dump, using this app:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/!Tools/dump_167.exe
I'm not sure if it works on the Atom, but I'd be grateful if someone could try it and let me know. A couple of nice guys have tried and failed
V
Vijay dear friend..
like i told you before...
the DUMP didn't work..
but you have the lastest rom.
any way, in a week or so, a new rom is about to come out, may the new rom could be dumped...?!?
Nadavi..
Exactly assasins, and I'm really grateful for the info.
I've dumped the rom file above, but a dump from the rom isn't the most useful ways to get files out of it. Some files aren't usable from there, so a live dump is best. But not to worry, I'll live without for now.
Oh, but I could still do with an atom registry dump if someone can send me that... gracias!
V
vijay555 said:
I'm not sure if this is correct, but I was provided with
Xda-Atom-ENG-20060123_Feb2006_.exe
Double click. This will extract to your root drive
c:\
Device Software Update Utility.exe
diskimage_Ver.nb0
Extendedrom.img
nova_pda_033105.mot
vl1d_pda_Ver.mot
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Anyone know how to edit the mot files?
vijay555 said:
If anyone can, I could still really do with a live rom dump, using this app:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/!Tools/dump_167.exe
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dear vijay555
is this suppose to wirk with ETEN M600
it runs ok but I don't no ware it extract files
thanx
I think it extracts them to a folder on your sd card, called Dump.
If you've got an eten dump, I could do with one of those as well.
I didn't write this app - I can't even remember where it came from. If anyone wants to volunteer as the author, I'd like to know more about the app!
V
Will I think it's not working hear
noyhing in my SD or TMP folder
thanks for your help
Regards
Guys, what's the storage card called on the Atom?
Is it still called \storage card\?
V
xda atom
its called memory card.
is there have such tool like HTC mtty for Atom?
I tried er2003edit to edit T-mobile 2.26 ExT rom. Cause i wanted the cabs inside the nk.nbf file file but its asking for password. I m new at this. i m reading the tutorials on this forum from morning but can't figure out how?
can any one help me ? {silly question cause this forum have people who can code anything on windows mobile }
or can i get the pass
to install latests tzone setup cab and instant messeging plz help. Thanks
Download wizard service tool (do a search, it's on here somewhere) and it has an option to download your extended ROM to your computer and then you can do what you want with the files.
xeno1 said:
Download wizard service tool (do a search, it's on here somewhere) and it has an option to download your extended ROM to your computer and then you can do what you want with the files.
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Thanks a lot for the reply.But my problem is, i already upgraged to windows mobilw 6.Thats why im trying to edit from original .nbf file Any help plz.