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Why does Windows Media Player forget its place?

I find that although I like the WMP when I reopen the program it has often forgotten what song was being played. This means I have to go back into the library to get it playing again.
Is this a problem with my os?
Is there a fix to this?
Other programs like Pocket Music don't seem to trip up in this way (although it does in other ways... don't get me started!).
running OS- O2 mini s- 1.5.4.102

Nevermind!
I just found TCPMP!
Works great! No errors yet.
I was hoping to get WMP up to scratch, but it always seems to fail somehow.
TCPMP (The Core Pocket Media Player) has been flawless so far. Hate to use more space but it's worth it for something that works that well and is free (opensource).

WMP vs. TCPMP (or whatever) vs. ITunes and syncing your music

Ok, I have learned that 1 gig is very unlike my 30 gig mp3 player but realistically I am growing towards the idea that the whole sync thing can be used to bring on and take off music when I get tired of it. Meaning, before when I could shove everythnig and its mother onto one device I really didn't care what was on there. but now, space is limited... I guess it is kinda like going from country side estate to a New York Sublet.
Alas we have to make due. So what do you guys use and what do you have the most functionality with.
For me this is how it has been. I have WMP 11 on my computer and Itunes as far as players go I have the WMP PPC and TCMPHP (i know I know) thingy on my pc... I played one video with the tcmpp thingy and it was shaking and fuzzy all over the place. I think it said it disabled my graphics card or something... WEIRD... but I removed it imediatley... anyone else have that problem? I digress...
the functionality of the WMP, forget about codecs for a second, I am only worried about mp3's right now, seems a bit archaic. you can't make a playlist but you can sync one. Which is fine. But, on my intitial setup with WMP on my computer I didn't include the music that the device had and the whole thing won't sync that... I was trying to delete the profile on the PC and NO LUCK... can't figure it out. anyways. As well, I noticed that some music you download doesn't have the proper tags or information. Fixing this in WMP is a true PAIN in the ARSE.
Fixing it in ITUNES is so much better and the tags you create actually stick with the mp3 file... For those of you who have been having trouble finding songs that you have in your device but they won't show up in the all music directory of WMP... THIS is why. Again, Itunes wins out for this one.
for me, I want to go all out for ITunes but I dont' think it will make a playlist that the WMP will recognize... will tcmp play the itunes media player and can you sync to the player or proper folder
OOOOO... that reminds me when I do sync I want it to go to specific folder I have on my device in my storage card. It goes to the freaking storage card but puts it right on the root and keeps creating a "my music" folder to put the music in... THis burns me up because it is not what I want. Again, anyone know how to fix this.
I dunno, I have been playing with this for weeks and would sure like to hear what you all are doing and what works the best.
Thanks in advance.

I use iTunes to TAG my mp3s and convert them into one standard bitrate [I use 128kbps on all my mp3s]
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For syncing I use WMP11 on my XP notebook. All these are done on WMP11...
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To remove a partnership: Right-click on the Storage Card and Remove Sync Partnership
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To setup a Auto-sync: Re-connect your device/storage card. Right click and choose Set up Sync, check Sync this device automatically to sync music each time you connect your device/card. Choose the playlists you want sync'd and your off. It's a bit slow using USB but really fast when using a card reader. You may be prompted the first time you connect your card to rename it and some other options.
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If you didn't rename your card to begin with you still can: Right click on it and choose Advanced there are some more options there to for quality/conversion settings [I don't mess with those since I've already converted and tagged my files before putting them inside my Music library]
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Re: Music folder being organized by Artist-Album IIRC it could be removed pre-WMP11 but on WMP11 the tickbox for this is check and grayed out.
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WMP11 may be a pain in the ass to use and it really is inferior to iTunes in a lot of ways but I've learned to bear with it.
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What I like about WMP10PPC is that it has built in support for A2DP/AVRCP [never used TCPMP for music/videos]. I try not to install additional apps that I think the PPC is capable of doing out of the box. Maybe you can try this software [used google to find it] it's supposed to sync iTunes playlists to a WM device, it's called TunesSync for Windows Mobile. Haven't tried it though.

couple questions... when you snyc what folder on your sd card does it go to.. mine automatically trie to go on the root of my storage card but I don't want it to do that.
As well, I can't remove the parternship so that it starts over again... I dunno why but I can't do it... meaning if you remove the partnership will it prompt you to start over again and reconfigure the settings to your liking???
As well, yes, the tagging in WM11 is rediculous... but ITunes is way superior in that category... hmmmm shame but I dunno... I might give that Itunes sync to card a try.

My mp3s sync to...
\Storage Card\Music\Artist\Album [for single artist albums]
\Storage Card\Music\Various Artists\Album [for compilations]
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Hmm odd I can easily end and re-establish sync relationships using WMP11. Maybe you can try disconnecting the device, restart both PPC and WMP11 and try again?
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be sure to post on how it goes with the synctunes thingy.

I dunno... wierd... I need to go home and try to work this out.

I rely totally on the CorePlayer Mobile (aka TCPMPWhatever) to play MP3's and videos straight from my storage card. Why? 1) The sound quality is better. CorePlayer includes an equalizer, so you can mess with the settings. You can also increase the pre-amp if you have really quiet audio recordings you want to listen to. 2) You don't have to bother with the file converting like you do with WMP. I use a utility like CardExport or WM5torage to put it directly on the card, completely bypassing the converting mess. It saves a lot of time, especially with videos.
I haven't totally abandoned WMP, though. I use Orb.com to stream music/videos to the WMP on my PPC, and effectively have a 1TB MP3 player.

christian15213 said:
I played one video with the tcmpp thingy and it was shaking and fuzzy all over the place. I think it said it disabled my graphics card or something... WEIRD... but I removed it imediatley... anyone else have that problem? I digress...
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Oh, and if you're having problems with the video shaking and what not, try changing the video output driver. Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> Video. I had this problem with a few videos, and I resolved it by changing the ATI Imageon to either DirectDraw or Raw FrameBuffer. I don't know why some videos have problems with one driver or the other, but switching it sometimes helps.
BTW, if you want to re-enable the ATI OS Bitmap caching (which CorePlayer automatically disables), you can switch it back at Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> ATI Imageon. I assume you need to soft reset after you make the change.
Edit: I just realized you might be using the actual TCPMP, which is the free version of CorePlayer. If that's the case, the settings might be in a different place in the program, but it's probably still there.

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Oh, and if you're having problems with the video shaking and what not, try changing the video output driver. Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> Video. I had this problem with a few videos, and I resolved it by changing the ATI Imageon to either DirectDraw or Raw FrameBuffer. I don't know why some videos have problems with one driver or the other, but switching it sometimes helps.
BTW, if you want to re-enable the ATI OS Bitmap caching (which CorePlayer automatically disables), you can switch it back at Menu -> Tools -> Preferences -> Select Page -> ATI Imageon. I assume you need to soft reset after you make the change.
Edit: I just realized you might be using the actual TCPMP, which is the free version of CorePlayer. If that's the case, the settings might be in a different place in the program, but it's probably still there.
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yes, for sure the free... but from what I gather by the response for music the WMP is better.

Oh, well I'm not sure about that. The music on the CorePlayer is definitely better than the WMP, though.

but can you synch with it? that is the question / problem.

Yes, but you don't need to.
You can sync it the usual way, and have all your MP3's in a folder like "Music". You can then have CorePlayer point towards that file.
OR.... you can just copy a whole bunch of MP3's into said folder, and not have to sync it at all. You can do this with 1) a usb card reader, 2) WM5torage, or 3) CardExport.
I prefer not to do the syncing. The latter method is infinitely quicker and straight forward. It's simply a matter of copying the MP3's into a folder on the storage card.

i dont bother syncing,
i just copy the mp3 folders to the sd card and launch the playlisy in mortplayer for mp3's.
simplest and best solution i have found.
WMP takes up too much ram when playing mp3's, typical microsoft, redundant code just taking up memory.

QuachMD said:
Yes, but you don't need to.
You can sync it the usual way, and have all your MP3's in a folder like "Music". You can then have CorePlayer point towards that file.
OR.... you can just copy a whole bunch of MP3's into said folder, and not have to sync it at all. You can do this with 1) a usb card reader, 2) WM5torage, or 3) CardExport.
I prefer not to do the syncing. The latter method is infinitely quicker and straight forward. It's simply a matter of copying the MP3's into a folder on the storage card.
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Cingular 8525 and wm5storage = bad four letter word... not on our device :-( pouty face...
as well, yea the memory issue on the WMP is a concern... as well when you try to logg off to save battery it automatically pauses the darned player...

bnycastro said:
My mp3s sync to...
\Storage Card\Music\Artist\Album [for single artist albums]
\Storage Card\Music\Various Artists\Album [for compilations]
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Hmm odd I can easily end and re-establish sync relationships using WMP11. Maybe you can try disconnecting the device, restart both PPC and WMP11 and try again?
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be sure to post on how it goes with the synctunes thingy.
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I still can't figure how to end sync... errrr

error when playing mp3s on Windows Media Player

hi. everytime i play an mp3/wav that's stored on my storage card, windows media player gives me an error message 10 seconds into the song. it says "not enough storage is available to complete this operation." I have a 2 GB storage card that is only 9% full, my program memory has 20MB free and my phone storage is 22MB.. when i copy the song to the main memory, windows media player plays the song without a hitch. any suggestions?
thanks,

I am recieving the same error on my Windows Mobile phone (VW 6800, DCD 3.04, WM 6.1)
I also have a 2 GB storage card, I have MP3's at various bitrates and get the same error. I have tried a soft-reset, have 27 MB of free ram, and I still get this error.
When I use coreplayer, I can play the music without issue.
Anyone have any ideas?

hi. everytime i play an mp3/wav that's stored on my storage card, windows media player gives me an error message 10 seconds into the song. it says "not enough storage is available to complete this operation." I have a 2 GB storage card that is only 9% full, my program memory has 20MB free and my phone storage is 22MB.. when i copy the song to the main memory, windows media player plays the song without a hitch. any suggestions?
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Sup guys and/or girls,
I think I have an idea of whats happening here...and a solution to it...When you get this message
"not enough storage is available to complete this operation."
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This usually means that your system (Wing)is trying to allocate more memory than is available on your device.
Now yes you may have a 2gig mem card and your Program memory may have 20MB free but if you have too many running programs and you try to load an Mp3/Wav file, your system is trying to actually load more memory than you actually have, thus giving you an error! Try to stop some of the running programs on your phone and est out the Mp3, if it works then we found the issue, if not then let me know so I can try and come up with any other possible solutions.

I'm having the same problem.
i tried closing all programs, and using Oxios to free up more RAM. didn't work. i have an 8GB SD Card.
what does "est out the Mp3" mean?

Have you guys tried using another media player, like TCPMP? It works better with MP3s for me.

Please answer, if you can
I get this with some files, too. It's not a memory problem--19 MB free program memory and 60 MB free program memory plus gigabytes of flash, only the programs involved running. I'm using Windows Media Player 10 on Windows Mobile 6 Pro. I've got a dictionary that links to audio pronunciation files via "file:\\" style internal URLs. Tap the link, an IE window pops up, then Windows Media Player, and then the file starts playing in WMP. The handoff doesn't work with TCPMP, Core Player, or any other media player I've tried except WMP (they can't interpret the path to the file properly, no matter how I adjust the registry). So I have to use WMP. Each file is about 8 kb or smaller, and there are thousands of them. 98% work perfectly, but 2% cause this error message to pop up a few seconds into the clip. Files that work always work, and files that bring up the error always bring up the error. So the problem IS in the mp3 files themselves. The busted files work on other media players (if accessed directly--as stated, though, links from the dictionary work only in WMP). File verification programs (e.g., checkfile, the verification function in foobar) find nothing wrong, but when I back up files with Retrospect Express HD, SOME of the broken files (but not all of them) show up in the .dat log of the backup as "doesn't compare." Only the files with the problem show up that way.
I hope that's enough info. My implementation may be different but it seems like the same problem, so if someone can help me it should help the OP as well. Please let me know if you need more info.

Try this:
With WMP closed, in File Explorer, go to:
\Storage Card\MSMETADATA\
Delete the file: XMEMediaLibrary.mlb
Re-sync with WMP on the desktop to rebuild the XMEMediaLibrary.mlb file. That fixed it for me.
More tips on syncing Windows Media Player are here: http://pocketnow.com/review/windows-media-player-mobile-tips-and-tricks

Crazy
I have a 4GB card and about 500 MP3s & WMA on it and have never had that problem. I think the closing other programs would help. Some times I get that when I am playing music and try to launch my camera. That annoys me the most. Especially when I there is a perfect picture opportunity and I have to restart my phone. Sorry for going off the subject but that urks me.

TCPMP 0.72 album cover viewing

I have searched in vain but I cannot find an answer to the following question about TCPMP. I have used it for years on several generations of PDAs, but I cannot find a way of showing the Album cover when playing wma files. Built-in Microsoft WMP does it, but TCPMP apparently cannot? I tried the commercial version of Core Player which does do it, but I found it too messy to use the program (e.g. odd large fonts on my VGA device, Loox N560, making playlists unviewable).
Has anyone found a way of making the album art display whilst playing a track, please?

TCPMP does always display a folder.jpg if (there is one) when playing music from the same folder.

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TCPMP does always display a folder.jpg if (there is one) when playing music from the same folder.
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Thanks for that.
I think it only works when the files are mp3 but not when the folder contains wma files. All my folders have a "folder.jpg" file in with the wma music tracks but they do not display. I wonder why they do with mp3s and not with wma... or am I doing something wrong? Each folder has multiple wma tracks, a
folder.jpg and an AlbumArtSmall.jpg and a playlist file ***.m3u. I can make TCPMP show the Album cover if I include the Folder.jpg in with the selected tracks in a Playlist, but it just sticks on displaying the picture and doesn't play the wma tracks!
Help!

If anyone is interested anymore? ... I have performed exhaustive tests and these are the results.
If I have a folder with mp3 files and a Folder.jpg the picture shows when playing any of the mp3 files in the same folder. If the folder contains only wma files and the Folder.jpg the picture does NOT display. So it looks like TCPMP is programmed to show the Folder.jpg only when playing mp3 files in the same folder and NOT other formats like wma.
I even tried putting a silent mp3 track in the playlist in front of the wma tracks. Whilst playing the silent track (about 3 seconds) the folder displays but as soon as the first wma file of real music starts, the album cover picture disappears. It is obviously hard coded into TCPMP! Shame. I ran audio tests awhile back and the quality of the wma files was the same as mp3 files, but at half the sampling rate and therefore creates files half the size. So I took the decision to encode all my collection of CDs in wma. I have all the album covers in with them. The only option is to re-encode all the wma files to mp3.... oh blimey that is a big job! But at least I now know what is happening?
Has anybody hacked TCPMP to solve this? Unfortunately I don't have the skills to do it..

i also use wma although its from microsoft. Just use S2p ! its much better for music and fingerfriendly, but has no playlists.

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i also use wma although its from microsoft. Just use S2p ! its much better for music and fingerfriendly, but has no playlists.
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Thank you for this helpful suggestion. I have S2P now installed. It has a beautiful GUI! I had not discovered it. And I love the revolving windows and the album covers. And I am tempted to use it, BUT I have a 16Gb SDHC full of music in folders and the thousands of tracks just scroll up for ever.. finding stuff will be hard. The absence of user designed playlists is a bit of a shame. However, the arrows on the left are good and get me to the folders just fine. I have just discovered the tap on the album cover gives the playing position etc, Brilliant. Thank you so much. It is such a samll program too!
If only TCPMP had this interface (the commercial Coreplayer has an awful interface in my opinion)...... But thank you so much.
I would still love a way to solve the TCPMP version though.....

he he ! AC's Apps are the best ! try s2u2 and s2v. I think a playlists feature will come because developing continues. tcpmp is the best freeware videoplayer but i think core and tcpmp are not experts for music.
I forgot: you can also try HTC Audiomanager. i think newest version has Albumview (not sure) and Playlists (sure) ! search here

Thanks for the new pointer to HTC prog. I forgot to mention that I am using this all on the VGA Loox N560 not a smartphone. I kept wondering what the "No Service" at the top LH corner meant! Silly me! I tried running WiFi while it is on and a little WiFi icon appears too helpfully, but how on earth you can use it I have not - yet - a clue... but I will persist. I have been listening to lots of stuff and it sounds great. And I love the automatic screen backlight save (which I have reset to a longer time in the Registry).
The other AC stuff seems geared to mobile phones rather than a traditional PDA like mine. But I will try the HTC prog when I find it. Thanks again to bluemetalaxe.

fingerstoo - I also just downloaded TCPMP and found the album art was not displayhing for my WMA files, and stumbled across this thread.
I bought a 16GB MicroSDHC earlier this week and transferred ~9GB music (~4200 tracks) to it and have found that it brings my Tmobile Dash (Excalibur) to a painful crawl.
Switching between tracks (especially as you get towards the end of the library) is very slow, and it can take upwards of a minute or so to start a track.
I'm curious about why you're looking for a non-WMP solution to maintaining your library.
I'm wondering if you're not keen on sticking with WMP for the same reasons (thus validating my theory that this is a common problem based on the number of files in the library), or if you are just looking for additional features not found n WMP.
Would you mind sharing your experiences with WMP to let me know if you have found the same, or if it's just me?
Thanks in advance.

use mortplayer.. has every function youd ever need!

mackemlad said:
fingerstoo - I also just downloaded TCPMP and found the album art was not displayhing for my WMA files, and stumbled across this thread.
I bought a 16GB MicroSDHC earlier this week and transferred ~9GB music (~4200 tracks) to it and have found that it brings my Tmobile Dash (Excalibur) to a painful crawl.
Switching between tracks (especially as you get towards the end of the library) is very slow, and it can take upwards of a minute or so to start a track.
I'm curious about why you're looking for a non-WMP solution to maintaining your library.
I'm wondering if you're not keen on sticking with WMP for the same reasons (thus validating my theory that this is a common problem based on the number of files in the library), or if you are just looking for additional features not found n WMP.
Would you mind sharing your experiences with WMP to let me know if you have found the same, or if it's just me?
Thanks in advance.
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Yup, WMP has problems with large numbers of files. But the real reason why I got hooked on a replacement was because of the inability to play Divx video. I became obsessed with small size video files and making them play without freezes or pixel artefacts/glitches. TCPMP won hands down. Mind you it took huge amounts of experimentation with sampling rates, codecs etc to get consistent high quality results. The other factor was to make good use of a VGA size screen. The higher sampling rates and this together needed a good player and PC video conversion software. TCPMP remains the winner. Having used it extensively for video, all I want to do was continue to use TCPMP for audio as well. It seemed to have good control of playlists, plenty of tweakable audio controls (more than WMP) and support for a wider range of audio formats ogg for example. The onlt thing that frustrated me was not seeing the familiar album cover. I own the CDs so why shouldn't I see the cover as it plays (if I want). And I discovered, as you see from this thread that the covers appear as mp3 tracks play but not wma! Obviously coded in.
Having tried S2p, I will probably use that for audio and stick with TCPMP for video. I use an old copy I bought of CD-DA to rip the files from CD. I like to be incontrol of my libary mannually. It annoys me when WMP on the PC wants to take control of transferring and syncing my music. I want total control myself, thank you! Although I used to use the PC WMP to rip files , I have found again that the flexibilty and file conversion features of CD-DA are more helpful for me.
I worked (albeit a long time ago) 9 years for the BBC in video/sound hence my interest in all these things. Perhaps this explains my obsession with being in control?

htctoucher said:
use mortplayer.. has every function youd ever need!
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Thank you for pointing me again to Mortplayer. However, I have tried various versions of this over the last few years. But undeterred, I tried the very latest version off Mort's site. Although I agree that it has bags of functionality and does indeed show the album cover, I just cannot stand that GUI.
Bluemetalaxe suggested S2P above. I am pleased with this because IMHO S2P looks so cool and is easy to use (even a shade of HTC and Apple GUIs in there too?). So for me, it's TCPMP for video and S2P for audio from now on.
I am a fan and user of Mortscript though. Mort seems better at writing clever and sophisticated "backroom" code rather than swish GUI design? I think he needs a graphic designer to hel him improve his GUI. I follow the Mortscript thread on this site every day, like many thousands of others.... brilliant.

Music App Issue.

I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.

rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.

zelendel said:
I have noticed this as well. It seems to need to reload the media after a certin amount of time. No real fix that I have seen yet.
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Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?

rickyzone said:
Thats what I was thinking too... Maybe there is a way to turn of the automatic indexing or whatever it is it's doing and do it manually. Registry Key change?
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I have looked in the reg and have not found anything. I think it is hard coded in the manila files as I noticed the change from sense 2.1 to 2.5. If I find anything Ill let you know

there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.

radzi said:
there sems to be some kind of problem with music tab in this phone, at the begining it did not find any music, I had to search for a solution deleting something in Manila and reseting manila, after that it read my music files.
and yes, every time I softreset or turn off and on the phone, when I go to music tab it doesnt find enything and after half a minute it starts loading my files (and I have only loaded 500 MB yet)
When I had my Diamond 2 it was fast, music tab and everything was there with 0 delay. I got no idea what must be worng with the code in our 1 Ghz HD2 music tab.
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I noticed the music thing today also. But when you update your library via windows media player, it seems to find all the music. At least, did for me. That fixed that issue, maybe music tab and windows media player are connected some way?

The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.

Thanks for this, if I still had my HD2 I would test it XD
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The lag in initial loading is caused by a lack of cache on the SD card. I found a cab that brought my load time from 30-50 seconds down to 11 seconds (I have 10.4GB of music). It should speed up everything on the SD card since all it does is enable the cache on the card.
let me know how it works for you. I've asked NRG if he would work the reg-hack into his ROM, but this should do as a work around.
Don't thank me, thank the author of the hack.
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rickyzone said:
I have a stock TMOUS HD2. I have just over 950 songs on my mSD card and whenever I move to the music tab on sense it takes a good 12-15 seconds to load (during which the phone is frozen). Now this is only when I have the entire library in the current playlist. Is this normal, and is there any way to shorten this slight lag? Also, I like to leave the entire library on shuffle, but sometimes, when leaving the music tab and coming back in (after another wait) the music is no longer shuffled, even though the little check box is still there. I just have to tap it twice to make it shuffled again. Not deal breakers, just inconveniences, I still love my HD2.
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This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.

toreone said:
This used to be a big issue for me. I have around 800 songs and well about 8GB and it would take a really long time before it would load up my songs. What I did was copy the Audio_manager.exe file from the windows folder and and pasted it in the Startup folder also in the windows folder. That helped out immensely.
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I tried that and it didn't have any effect on my load time. The cab did because it enabled the data to be cached, but starting the HTC audio manager in theory will only start the audio manager on startup which gives the appearance of a faster load because the data is being loaded while the phone starts and by the time you get to music it should be done.
My theory is that every time you slide away from the audio manager it closes the app and when you reopen it (thus have to reload the playlist) you're gonna get long load times once again. I could be wrong (wouldn't be the first time) but I know the behavior on my device had nothing to do with starting the audiomanager on startup

i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy

Wingtytn, et al-
Thank you guys very much for your helpfulness. I am however getting a little tired of hearing the music, tags and the lunar cycle being blamed. While, yes, it's true that music can cause problems, that isn't the case here.
#1- If I open the music directly in Windows Media Player (on the phone) it not only loads instantly, but plays instantly and skips through songs without any hesitation. It also has no trouble keeping the shuffle setting on.
#2- This problem has occurred over the fresh installation of many ROMs. Every time I install a new ROM I delete any non-user created data on the SD Card, Hard Reset the Phone, Task29, then flash the ROM. The FIRST thing I do is check to see if these bugs still occur in the Sense Media Player, and inevitably they do.
#3- The first thing I did when I got this phone was to format the MicroSD card. It's the one that came with the phone, so I know it's not a compatibility issue.
#4- My music library is maintained and synced with my phone via Media Monkey Gold. It has been for some time and Media Monkey does a PHENOMENAL job at updating tracks' tags and checking file names.
If you still think its the music, see #1, and note that it works just fine on my laptop and the 16GB USB memory stick that I sync with to plug into the headunit in my car.
Then if you still think it's the music go ahead and post again that you think it's the music since it hasn't already been suggested and debunked (in my case) ad nauseum.
This rant has been brought to you by the letter 'V' and the number '5'
wingtytn said:
i found out that most of the problems wen it comes to playin mp3s with music tab its not the device its the music, anywhere from a bad files a to a virus can cause ur music to freeze and start all over again but there is a solution to the problem that i found and it works for me... simply transfer all of ur songs back to ur computer and format ur micro sd card to wipe clean as ur doing so download mediamonkey its free and recode all songs to mp3 u can also add or remove album art once complete send ur music back to sd card and that should resolve the issuse, if not then the problem is the media player itself and u will need to update it by hard reset if ur on stock rom or change rom if its a cooked rom... goodluck and enjoy
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thanks for the .cab made me love the hd2 even more....

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i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.

I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.

steve austin said:
i installed the cab and the average recognition time went from 40 seconds to 4! I would have never believed it. thanks for posting the cab.
side note: when I turn the phone to landscape I can never scroll through all the cd art. It stops about 20 cd's through and goes back to the begining. This has been the norm since day one. Is it just me? thanks.
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Well, I've never tried that scenario. Does it have that behavior in portrait mode too? I just tried to recreate the problem but wasn't able to (it seemed to behave itself for me.

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I got so sick and tired of the music player taking forever to load. And no its not my music files. Do yourself a favor and don't use the default music player. I switched to Pocket Player and have not looked back. Loads all my music (about 8gigs) in about 3 -5 seconds. It also has FLAC support, built in EQ and lots of other nice little things.
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Seriously, this thread is for people who are trying to get the Sense Media Player working correctly, NOT taking suggestions about which other media player to use. Yes there are other media players out there and they're all great I'm sure, BUT I DON'T WANT TO USE THEM SO STOP SUGGESTING THEM AND POST FIXES OR WORK AROUNDS. thank you.

what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...

Aside from putting the Audiomanager shortcut in the startup folder, the cure for my music tab lag was simply 'not having every song in a single playlist'. I have 10GB of music on my SD card, and that's a lot of music to have on a single playlist, given Audiomanager annoyingly attempts to cache the entire Now Playing list including art every time you open it. Try selecting one artist/album at a time - works for me without fail.
I do really, really wish Audiomanager had the alphabet search function the contact manager has. And the ability to add albums/songs to Now Playing on the fly without creating a new playlist. Ah well, can't win 'em all - I won't sacrifice the Sense integration.

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what about using a class 6 micro SD card, the one that came with our phones is a class 2, which is suppose to have slow read/write times. i got a 16gb class 6 card from amazon for like $50, and it is way faster then the stock one...
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This could potentially work. However here is a few things to look out for:
- Make sure it's legit class 6. At $50 if you got it from China then it's iffy about whether it's legit.
- The bottleneck might be the hardware card reader on the phone. If the card is capable of class 6 speeds but the reader will only read at, say, class 4 speeds then you won't see the speeds you are looking for.
Can you think about doing some more accurate testing with this? Here is what I suggest. Get a stopwatch, and media monkey. Sync all of your music on the old card with media monkey. Do a hard reset on the phone (so that no cabs are installed and it has the really slow start times). Collect 5-10 sample times with the stopwatch.
When you get your new card do the same thing. Sync all of your songs using media monkey, then hard reset and collect 5-10 startup times with the stopwatch and report your data.
The problem with simply "finger counting" is that if the numbers are negligible then you could get a placebo effect so that it "seems" faster but with no hard numbers you can't really tell.