SPB backup's automatic backup feature is very useful -- it backups up everynight and keeps only the 3 most recent ones-- but lately it has begun looping. That is, when the system comes back from reseting, the automatic starts again. Has anyone else experienced this? The symptom is that it hangs in startup after the automatic reset, and if you then reset using the stylus-in-the-hole, it starts the backup a second time.
The backup is completed successfully, so that isn't the problem.
I do have skschema running, but it automatically runs things hours after than my backup is set for.
You probably have a duplicate notification queue problem. Use the attached program to clear duplicate notifications - in settings tick both boxes. If it still does not clear up - use sktools better for stubborn notification problems. And if still no joy try uninstall and reinstall.
Thanks, but
Memmaid said no duplicates, and more importantly, only the one spbbackuprunner notification.
I run spb backup and have not had a problem - perhaps it is clashing with your other problem, try disabling skschema if possible. Have you tried a reinstall of backup with manually removing any lnk's registry keys etc... before reinstall.
I run SPB backup off the miniSD. It survived a hard reset without needing a reinstall, remarkably. So the only SPB Backup item appearing in windows is the backup runner that starts the automated backup.
I don't want to disable SK schema for the following reason. SPB Backup performs a soft reset, and when it does, the icons for programs that are on the minisd card don't appear in the PHM Traylaunch, I think because the miniSD isn't yet available at the time that the "run on reset" programs are run. So I have SKschema run the PHM Traylaunch a bit later.
The thing that is peculiar is that SPB backup completes a backup successfully; it just launches itself again afterward. I have it set to run at 1AM, and about 80% of the time, that is what it does: run, perform a soft reset, and stop. The other days, it launches again before the soft reset is complete (e.g. before the today screen appears). It is as if the time is wrong as the device comes out of the soft reset, telling it to restart.
The backups, even when it makes more than one (canceling prevents this, however) actually work; I did a hard reset one of the times as it came out (before I understood that it was actually launching a backup) and the backup copies restored perfectly.
Hi, I tried the same after a hard reset and had spb backup running from my storage card but did not seem to run that well, so it is now on main memory and runs perfectly. Secondly what rom are you using? because when i upgraded to aku2 the refresh problem with phm traylaunch has gone and icons from programs on the storage card always show up.
Good to know
I'm using the regular T-Mobile USA ROM; I haven't gotten around to upgrading. But it is good to know that the new ROM will likely fix that (and other) problems.
I have a new idea which might be related to the problem. spb backup often doesn't start if the MDA is turned off; I have to remember to leave it on to reliably create a backup. I think the backup repeating problem only arises when the MDA is off, which may cause spb backup to start late (due to the usual timer wakeup problem).
The other thing that SK Schema does for me is to create a one-click program to first erase the deleted mails, then check mail, thereby eliminating deleted mails from the server.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Alternate solution
I came up with a different solution -- I've set it to not soft reset after a backup, but then perform a soft reset later using skschema.
Actually, does anyone know why spb backup wants to perform a soft reset after the backup? Does this serve any purpose?
I like doing a soft reset, though, because over the course of a day I go from 15MB of free memory to about 7MB, even though nothing else is running, and this way I start the day charged and capable.
Another solution
Another solution is to turn off SPB backup's automatic softreset feature, which I've done, and then configured skschema to later perform a soft reset.
I like having a nightly soft reset, since I have a memory leak somewhere (going from 15M to 7MB over the course of a day), but does it serve any other role?
Re: Alternate solution
prestonmcafee said:
I came up with a different solution -- I've set it to not soft reset after a backup, but then perform a soft reset later using skschema.
Actually, does anyone know why spb backup wants to perform a soft reset after the backup? Does this serve any purpose?
I like doing a soft reset, though, because over the course of a day I go from 15MB of free memory to about 7MB, even though nothing else is running, and this way I start the day charged and capable.
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I can find no real benefit with spb backup when it does a soft reset after backup. Glad you got it sorted
Related
I'm coming from a Treo 650, which when it was synced saved all of the phone settings as well as the normal data exchanged when a sync is done. This came in very handy when I had to get a replacement Treo because all I had to do was sync the new phone and all of my previous settings were there.
In trying to figure out why the wi-fi on my Wizard is not working I've tried several different firmwares without any success. I'm going to take the phone to a T-Mobile store tonight to see if they'll exchange it for me. I've made a lot of configuration settings in the phone that are going to be a pain to reset again (after having done it numerous times with different firmware versions). Is there a way to backup and restore all of the phones settings at once? I assume that this would involve backing up and restoring the phone's registry. Is it as simple as copying the registry off the phone with something like Total Commander and then putting that registry back (with the same firmware and software, of course) on the new phone?
I tried spb Backup recently and it seems to restore everything. They have got a free trial for like 30 days, which should be enough for your purpose, but you need a mini SD to backup to.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
I do not know if any issues arise when you try to restore to a different device than the one the backup was originating from. I *guess* it should work alright, but you can ask the folks at spb. They seem to be pretty responsive.
HTH
Volker
Yes use spb backup, registry backup alone will not do the job. Spb backup will work fine as long as device is the same model and the ROM is the same.
Full restore
I use SPB Backup and have done several full restores. When I install software, I first do a backup, install teh software, and if it doesn't work well (an all too common phenomenon), I do a hard reset and restore, since it is hard to remove software otherwise.
No settings need changing, it is a full backup.
SPB backup has a reset problem written about elsewhere, but mostly it has worked for me. More importantly, when I had to do a hard reset, I was able to restore without difficulty. (The only times I've had to do a hard reset, however, was when SPB backup got in a reset cycle.)
This time, however, was different. Partway into the soft reset, the screen went blank and unresponsive. Something was happening because the phone light came on later, but it stayed unresponsive. After a hard reset, it would work normally, but when I tried to restore from a backup, it didn't work -- the same problem reappeared. This happened even with old backups, including a backup that I had used successfully in the past.
Is there some possibility that T-Mobile updated something without my knowledge? I don't see how an old backup that worked before wouldn't work now.
One thing that might be related: SPB was going to the web in the process of performing the restore. When I shut off GPRS, the program asked for permission, saying it needed something related to Pocket Plus.
In any event, I used my inability to restore from my backup (of course I could get my files and PIM data, just the settings wouldn't restore) as a chance to upgrade to 2.24 -- thanks Xelecin!!!.
Here is what I learned. Don't run SPB Backup from the SD card. Even if it seems to work and gives no error messages, it may not be working.
SPB Diary and SPB Today require a lot of space and time. TodayAgenda gives much of the same functionality as SPB Diary
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55296&highlight=todayagenda
and I like some aspects of it better. It is even free.
im using sprite back up, and it keeps failing when i restore.
can anyone recommend something better?
thanks
SPB
SPB seems to work fine, provided you install it on the device and not the PC card. What is annoying is that there is no error message when you run it off the SD card, it just doesn't restore properly. It seems to work fine otherwise. I use it pretty much because I create a backup before installing software, then if I don't like it, I do a hard reset and restore from the backup, so I use it pretty often.
It has one other feature worth noting. If I need to roll back several days, I can install the settings from that time, then the files and calendar items from a more recent backup. That way, only settings changed in the last few days are lost.
I back up to the SD card but periodically, and manually, move the old backups to my PC. SPB automatically makes a backup every night (stored on the SD card) and keeps the most recent three nights' worth.
Still, I learned the hard way that it won't run off the SD card properly, and had to rebuild the device. (I did get files and PIM items, though.) The silver lining was that I used the opportunity to upgrade my ROM.
spb hangs on me, during start up.
it just stays frozen on the today screen...
sucks...
That happened to me,
Did you have the program installed on the SD card?
There was a bug, allegedly fixed now, that caused it to restart another backup after making a backup. This could be interrupted.
You might try version 1.5 that just came out, but others like Sprite. I didn't like Sprite because it had conniptions over the fact that I sync with two pcs.
Hi, All
Had my touch about 3 weeks, everything has been great till now. Messaging (Email) suddenly stopped working, I can't open my email program, or text. It's just vanished. Any ideas? Tried reboot, (removed battery), even tried to restore with SPB which I installed yesterday and backed up. I'm new to this forum, but I know this is the best around for technical info. Thanks for any help.
Gary
Well, I can't imagine what caused it, but it sounds like you need to do a hard reset. That will get the device back to factory settings. You'll have to reload all of your stuff, first, and you'll want to backup your contacts.
When you're ready, while holding down the green and red buttons (Call and End), push the reset button with your stylus (it takes a bit of dexterity). You should be prompted to do a hard reset, and that should take care of the problem.
As for what caused it, i have no idea. Even if you could fix it somehow, you're still probably better off just reseting everything.
Thanks, Dave,
I guess I figured I would have to do that, but hoped I wouldn't. Between the SPB backup on my data card, and the customizations saved on my PC, I can get it back to where it was. I've spent hours and hours getting this thing exactly the way I wanted it, but that's life....
Gary
Sorry I missed this... may have been able to save you from hard reset. This happened to me once and if I reacall correctly it was an SD card issue. The cause... I had attachments going to the SD and the folder for the inbox disapeared. Why? No clue. Once I copied it back (from a backup) messaging started to work again.
There is another issue where the SD looks like it has been corrupted. All of the folder name look wacky and some are missing. I cant remember the exact sequence of events in my case but since deselecting "When available, use this storage card to store attachments" I have not had seen either problem.
fyi for the future.
Thanks for the info, SHWA311. I will check out that card issue. I did the hard reset, luckily had all my hacks and downloads saved, just took me a couple of hours to re-input my contacts. I tried everything to save them, but my only SPB backup was made after the problem, only didn't realize it.
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Thanks for the info, SHWA311. I will check out that card issue. I did the hard reset, luckily had all my hacks and downloads saved, just took me a couple of hours to re-input my contacts. I tried everything to save them, but my only SPB backup was made after the problem, only didn't realize it.
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you didn't have to hard reset... could have just deleted inbox folder on your sd card and mail/text program would start working again. i had the same issue before (as have many others).
Thanks varunb007,
I will file that under my "relax and wait for some more responses" memory bank!~
Gary
I've been trying to install cabs lately, and it says for most of the "installation was unsuccessful", and it deletes the cab files after that...
so i was wondering what the heck was going wrong, so i went onto settings and clicked "remove programs", and when i clicked that, there was nothing on the list of programs to remove!!! even though i have googlemaps, SPB mobile shell, and a few other things installed, it does NOT show on the list of installed programs, thus, i cannot remove anything, OR install any cabs
anybody know what i can do to remedy this situation....? there are several important aps i HAVE to install, and i was wondering what i could do to install these programs....should i take the non-cab route, and install it from my computer, with the Wing hooked up to it...? or any other solution?
any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks
atrac7gts said:
I've been trying to install cabs lately, and it says for most of the "installation was unsuccessful", and it deletes the cab files after that...
so i was wondering what the heck was going wrong, so i went onto settings and clicked "remove programs", and when i clicked that, there was nothing on the list of programs to remove!!! even though i have googlemaps, SPB mobile shell, and a few other things installed, it does NOT show on the list of installed programs, thus, i cannot remove anything, OR install any cabs
anybody know what i can do to remedy this situation....? there are several important aps i HAVE to install, and i was wondering what i could do to install these programs....should i take the non-cab route, and install it from my computer, with the Wing hooked up to it...? or any other solution?
any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks
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Well, not really sure what's going on with that, but what rom are you running? Personally, whenever you have funky issues with the o.s., it's almost always best to do a hard reset.
There may be a good chance you have no space on your internal storage thus renders the installation unsuccessful.
Go to settings->system->memory to check the available storage.
If you do not wish a cab to be deleted after installation, change the property of that file to "read-only" either on a pc or use total commander.
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Well, not really sure what's going on with that, but what rom are you running? Personally, whenever you have funky issues with the o.s., it's almost always best to do a hard reset.
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i am using SPB mobile shell as my aftermarket rom...but i've been using that for awhile with no problems...even with hard reset (as in turning off the phone and on), i still can't access the "remove programs" and actually DO anything....the only thing it seems like i CAN do is do a full, factory reset, but i really don't want to resort to that.....
and wearefree, i did check the available storage, and it's not fully taken up...granted, it's not a lot left for storage, but still there's a good amount left for a few more progams to be installed
i appreciate all your guys' help...anyone else? is there still a way for me to install progams through active sync/computer....? instead of doing it the CAB style...?
thanks
atrac7gts said:
i am using SPB mobile shell as my aftermarket rom...but i've been using that for awhile with no problems...even with hard reset (as in turning off the phone and on), i still can't access the "remove programs" and actually DO anything....the only thing it seems like i CAN do is do a full, factory reset, but i really don't want to resort to that.....
and wearefree, i did check the available storage, and it's not fully taken up...granted, it's not a lot left for storage, but still there's a good amount left for a few more progams to be installed
i appreciate all your guys' help...anyone else? is there still a way for me to install progams through active sync/computer....? instead of doing it the CAB style...?
thanks
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I was referring to a "hard reset", not just turning the phone off and on. That's a soft reset. When you do a hard reset, it basically rewrites over the os, so you will lose all you data, but it will be a fresh start, so you know there shouldn't be any errors. To do a hard reset, you press and hold the 1 and 2 buttons on the phone (buttons about talk and end) and press the soft reset button on the side. (with the stylus)
I also have this problem and would like to know an answer...i have hard reset and its done nothing..its almost like tmoble has it locked from putting programs in