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Dears, is any one aware if there is an Answer Machine Software for imate?
That if some one calls u, the software will asnwer the call (at your voice) and the one who calls might leave his message.
The advantage of it, is if you are in a meeting, then the answer machine would say I am in a meeting, or if you are in a theater, it says, wait for a while on the line, I am on theater and will answer ur call in few seconds, and so on...
Is there such a software? if not, is it easy to make?
There is no such software and it is impossible to write it for any existing PocketPC Phone. Even for QTEK 9090.
mamaich said:
There is no such software and it is impossible to write it for any existing PocketPC Phone. Even for QTEK 9090.
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Waw, sorry to ask, since you have good experience in programming, why it is impossible to have Answer Machine as a software in imate?
In the other hand, is is possible to develop a small program to show the Contact name in the SMS Confirmation instead of mobile number? this is also applied to SMS coming from system operator when your mobile is swtiched off showing phone numbers called u while your mobile is off, currently, only phone number is shown, not the contact number.
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Waw, sorry to ask, since you have good experience in programming, why it is impossible to have Answer Machine as a software in imate?
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In general this is impossible because TAPI in WinCE 4.20 does not support a wave device. So you cannot in your program intercept and play sound that is going through a phone part. Additionally GSM in imate does not support voice modem AT-commands so it is not possible to make such a program even by direct communication with modem.
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In the other hand, is is possible to develop a small program to show the Contact name in the SMS Confirmation instead of mobile number? this is also applied to SMS coming from system operator when your mobile is swtiched off showing phone numbers called u while your mobile is off, currently, only phone number is shown, not the contact number.
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This is theoretically possible. I'm also interested in such program.
Thank you verymuch for your quick reply, will email you more details about this project today.
Take care.
I understand what program you are talking about, but currently I have no free time for coding.
Golden Sands, why don't you use the Voicemail service provided by Al Jawal?
It just occurred to me, having your own answering machine would relieve you of STC's voicemail costs.
Impossible? Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
To my understanding it is not possible to record phone conversations even manually... how do u do that?
Tap the notes icon from the dialer and press the record button. It records both sides of the conversation. Very useful. Watch your encoding settings, as you could eat up memory fast. GSM 2k is fine for voice and very small.
works, but
not when using the bluetooth earplug connection.
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Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
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You can record a conversation programmally like you record a normal sound. The only difference is that you have to open WaveIn only after the call is established. Otherwize you'll record silence. But you cannot play anything so that the other side would hear it -> so "answering" machine is impossible. Only non-interactive "listening" machine is possible.
As far as I know, you can't record but your own voice in a phone conversation. That is, you can record the incoming voice as long as the speaker volume is somewhat loud so the integrated microphone can pick it up (that's why it works best in speakerphone mode).
To prove that, try to record a conversation while using the handsfree headset (not the bluetooth but the wired headset) and you will see that only your voice will be recorded.
Sorry,
Rayan
Carlos said:
Impossible? Since you can record the phone conversation manually, why could you not do it programmatically?
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You can record a conversation programmally like you record a normal sound. The only difference is that you have to open WaveIn only after the call is established.
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Well, for me (as not a programmer) I was thinking it is possible, but "mamaich" explained why earlier. Mamaich, would you please explain why again in more details? to me, still guess it is possible.
DareDevil said:
Golden Sands, why don't you use the Voicemail service provided by Al Jawal?
It just occurred to me, having your own answering machine would relieve you of STC's voicemail costs.
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Well, it is not about cost, although it might be a good idea to save some money! I do not like Asnwer Machine, I preffer sending SMS when some one is not available. But my idea originally is to develop an Answer Machine that asnwers your call if you are in Theater (Cinema), or Airplane before departing, or Conference, this message says (at your voice) "please wait on the line, I am getting out to answer your call" or something like that, and the other party will wait until you are able to answer him. I would suggest to call this as "Simi-Answer Machine". Here, the other party will not leave any message. How this sounds?
So, dear "mamaich", would it be possible to develop the "Simi-Answer Machine" that displays/run your voice until you are able to talk or answer the call? Of course, you need to press a button then to start talking with the other party.
Hope this sounds better!
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As far as I know, you can't record but your own voice in a phone conversation. That is, you can record the incoming voice as long as the speaker volume is somewhat loud so the integrated microphone can pick it up (that's why it works best in speakerphone mode).
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This is probably true for XDAs (I have not tested) but in my previous Rover S1 aka Anextek SP230 both voices were recorded (I've checked that). Maybe this is a hardware limitation of XDA.
would it be possible to develop the "Simi-Answer Machine" that displays/run your voice until you are able to talk or answer the call?
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I don't think that this is possible on XDAs.
HP Jornada 928 has Answering Machine
Salam
As far as i know there's only one Pocket PC which is HP Jornada 928 which is running Microsoft PC 2002 Phone Edition has this feature.
here's a link for more information about the HP Jornada 928 http://www.pdagold.com/files/hardware/0000000128_SNAYN.pdf
i wonder if it works for HP Jornada 928 why it doens't work for other devices like XDA or i-mate.
if i have this device i would try to extract the software from the ROM and give it a try on my i-mate Pocket PC, maybe it will work who knows?
i would like to know who develop this software for HP Jornada 928, any clue is highly appreciated.
Thanks with best regards.
Othman
Dont think it will work unless the hardware is identical as the coding must be hardware specific methinks.
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othman said:
As far as i know there's only one Pocket PC which is HP Jornada 928 which is running Microsoft PC 2002 Phone Edition has this feature.
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Salam Othman, You brought a good point here.
Well, I guess nothing is impossible.
Mamaich, do you think it is possible (after what Othman highlighted) to make at least the Simi-Answer Maching?
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That's one of the few things Sprint PCS does right--the ability to tell a caller to hold on for a moment. It's done system-side though. I'd love the ability to do that when I'm on another call or in a place where I can't answer immediately.
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Mamaich, do you think it is possible (after what Othman highlighted) to make at least the Simi-Answer Maching?
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Theoretically this can be made. But it would require reverse engeneering and modifying GSM firmware which would take lots of time.
Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?
Benone said:
Do you know any software for Windows Mobile 5 to recording conversations automatically ? I have 1gb card , can record over 20 hours of quite good quality conversations.
Do you know any soft which will do it automatically after I answer or call to somebody ?
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try vito audionotes
I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?
Nicky said:
I have just looked on the Vito Technology site but on the PPC version it mentions nothing about telephone conversation recording so I am assuming it doesn't offer this feature on the PPC, just on Smartphones .. is this correct?
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I've tried "Vito Audionotes" and "Resco Audio Recorder" and both got the same problem on TyTN; both only records your side so are useless...
Yes, it is a problem Viva, the way I have got round this is by using the Tytn headphones to make a call but I just wear one earpiece in my ear and I hold the other earpiece next to the inline microphone (you could even tape it there).
I have only ever used the inbuilt note recorder before so when I saw this thread I was hoping that there was 3rd party software out there that would record the other side of the conversation automatically so I wouldn't have to do it this way.
Anyway, thought I would mention my method in case it helps anyone
How about this
http://1800message.com/products.aspx
starfish_001 first point
1) Download either or both of applications below - NOTE: PM Recorder will only work with some Smartphones, not Pocket PC Phone Edition devices.
what is the differebce between PPC Phone and Smartphone ?
I thought my TyTN is a Smartphone but now I think it's a PPCPhone ..
So, there is nothing which can record conversations. It's a pity , phone with so big storage should have this option built-in... what you think ?
The option with some server which will keep my records it's not good for me, I wouldn't let anybody to send my conversations anywhere..
Ok, I will be still looking for some solution and let you know if find any..
Cheers guys.
Yes, TyTn is a PocketPC phone. The most obvious difference is that Smartphones do not have a touchscreen and have a numeric pad.
My C500 (Typhoon) Smartphone wouldn't record telephone conversations either, so I don't think that it's PPC specific. The incoming call simply isn't passed through the OS for it to be recorded.
I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that it was a conscious decision by Microsoft as some operators didn't want that functionality and they were trying to get as many operators onboard as possible. But Nokias can record conversations - even without a beep notification to the caller - so this info may not be correct.
Guys, please DO use the forum serach engine. I've long answrred these question in ALL call recording-related threads started before June 2006.
Please see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
LivePVR
Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.
Hmm...
LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too. You will need to use it in "speaker" mode like all others... Its just technically not possible.
Well, I have just read the article about recording via the speakerphone but I still prefer my method which I mentioned earlier in this thread.
My method records both sides of the conversation, I think the recording I get is better quality than when you record via speakerphone and the conversation remains private ... I am quite happy with my workaround
When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).
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When I have wizard, i use SPWM5CallRec.cab (somewhere on the forum) and ....hmm it's record all? (don't remember for 100%).
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It will not record the other party's voice, as has already been pointed out in my article (see link above).
However, i's still teh best call recorder app available for the PPC, particularly if you use the WAV postconverter I've discussed in the article.
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LivePVR does not work in recording phine calls. They finally admitted this on the handango product page, too.
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They did false advertising? Everyone who paid for that pretty crapy app could sue them for that. After all, the day after they've released LivePVR I've pointed out in my review it's NOT able to record the other party. That is, they were surely able of the app's inability of this.
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Moi herra Ruotsalainen. Your article doesn't mention LivePVR from Softtrends. I tried it and it works, but not for the purpose I wanted it. I am looking for a proper answering machine for WM5, like SmartAnswer I had on my old Nokia 6600.
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Yup, it directly doesn't mention it; however, the Audio Recorder Bible (linked in from the PMRecorder article; http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp ) does and it also links in the related LivePVR review ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1218&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 )
The extend of my test was one phone call. I realise now that I did the test with the speaker on.
Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?
So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.
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Microphone picking up the sound from the speaker . . . bleeding edge, huh?
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I'm continuously pushing the issue in internal MS forums. Hopefully HTC / MS changes its approach and does implement what Nokia, Ericsson, Siemens etc have been offering for 7-8 years.
Benone said:
So finally...
I started this thread once again , I know, there is a lot about that on this forum. I just wanted to put this in to TyTN section, because I was dreaming that this model has no hardware restriction and maybe somebody wrote good app for recording phone calls.
I see, it's still impossible to do that on such a gadgetty mobile phone...
It's a pity....
If anybody find the solution please continue this thread or even send me a message please.
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OK, will post a note here too when there is a solution. Also make sure you regularly visit the General forum here for my latest posts.
Guys, I have tried all the solutions for call recording be it Vito Audio Notes, Resco Audio Recorder, LivePVR but no one works fine. They aren't able to record the other party voice unless on speakerphone. So, I thought why not beat those commercial apps and develop a better free solution. Unfortunetly, I dont know much programming, But I know who can do this, yes its you xda-developers. So, gear up to be superior as ever.
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Guys, I have tried all the solutions for call recording be it Vito Audio Notes, Resco Audio Recorder, LivePVR but no one works fine. They aren't able to record the other party voice unless on speakerphone. So, I thought why not beat those commercial apps and develop a better free solution. Unfortunetly, I dont know much programming, But I know who can do this, yes its you xda-developers. So, gear up to be superior as ever.
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Please follow my articles - in them, I've discussed this problem a lot. You will NOT be able to record the other party. Sorry, it's a hardware (or at least API) restriction.
You could use a pc mic next to your ear and record it to a pc. But you have to have a pc nearby.
Here is an imaginative workaround:
Is it possible to redirect from speaker phone to a bluetooth headset?
Something like this:
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/bluetoothaudio.shtml
Or search "BT Toggle", I am sure there is something like that in modaco.com
Then modify the tool to "capture" + "redirect" to BT
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Here is an imaginative workaround:
Is it possible to redirect from speaker phone to a bluetooth headset?
Something like this:
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/bluetoothaudio.shtml
Or search "BT Toggle", I am sure there is something like that in modaco.com
Then modify the tool to "capture" + "redirect" to BT
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The TeekSoft(?) folks behind many cool utilities have tried this VERY hard - without any success. That is, it's too impossible.
simply not true
Menneisyys said:
Please follow my articles - in them, I've discussed this problem a lot. You will NOT be able to record the other party. Sorry, it's a hardware (or at least API) restriction.
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I use pm recorder on my tytn...works flawlessly. However it does not record the other party when using a bluetooth headset and you do not have to have the phone on speaker mode to record the other party.
http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/download-pmrecorder.html
their official site:
http://1800message.com/usepmr.aspx
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I use pm recorder on my tytn...works flawlessly. However it does not record the other party when using a bluetooth headset and you do not have to have the phone on speaker mode to record the other party.
http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/download-pmrecorder.html
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http://1800message.com/usepmr.aspx
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The lack of BT recording means it's still the mike that is picking up the voice of the other party and there's no direct access to it. That is, the results are inevitably far worse than direct access.
hmmm, i can't make PMRecorder work on my Kaiser, the recordings are empty, not even my voice is in them......
RPG0 said:
hmmm, i can't make PMRecorder work on my Kaiser, the recordings are empty, not even my voice is in them......
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give a try to other recorders. (BTW, AFAIK the Kaiser isn't able to record the other party either, so, it's pretty much useless to even give it a try.)
Hello everyone - Can someone who has an HD test out the incall recording software and perhaps post an audio file.
This is a key feature that I'm looking for as my nokia currently has this feature.
And no, it's necessary for my career, i'm not a pervert who goes around recording conversations for kicks
Discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442220
Lucas - thanks for the link to hte other thread...
however, what i'm trying to establish is whether the HD allows for in call recording without the use of speakerphone.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry, thought this was clear from my other posts - no possible on HTC devices.
sorry, but i can't agree with that opionion. Some time ago i've got Asus P750 and it was possible to record conversations without turning on speakerphone.
Ok, edited my post, selected non-HTC devices supported it in the past, but no current HTC ones. End of story.
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Ok, edited my post, selected non-HTC devices supported it in the past, but no current HTC ones. End of story.
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Not end. The new HTC Touch HD has extra support for this.
Surur
Good news then! But I am still skeptical ... any more info?
surur said:
Not end. The new HTC Touch HD has extra support for this.
Surur
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Surur is correct - Like hte HTC Advantage, the hardware is slightly different on the touch HD allowing software access to both earpiece and outgoing mic audio. Therefore, one can record conversations without hte use of the speakerphone.
I just need to establish what the quality is like of the recording and what featrues are built into the software.
someone who has the device please assist! thanks in advance.
biswasd said:
Surur is correct - Like hte HTC Advantage, the hardware is slightly different on the touch HD allowing software access to both earpiece and outgoing mic audio. Therefore, one can record conversations without hte use of the speakerphone.
I just need to establish what the quality is like of the recording and what featrues are built into the software.
someone who has the device please assist! thanks in advance.
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I purchased the latest Resco Audio Recorder and use it on my Eten x500. It has a feature which records all your calls. No beeps etc... And you can customize it so that you can use different audio formats and sound quality. It works fantastic!
Please, please somebody test this on HTC Touch HD
I'll test it tommorow. My HD is going to me
I'm also interested in calls recording.
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Hello everyone - Can someone who has an HD test out the incall recording software and perhaps post an audio file.
This is a key feature that I'm looking for as my nokia currently has this feature.
And no, it's necessary for my career, i'm not a pervert who goes around recording conversations for kicks
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Tried audionotes. Failed. Other party is not recorded.
so what exactly then does the in call recording feature do? Anyone have any more insight into this issue?
Now that investor Mark Cuban has a major insider trading case in the U.S. centered around a phone conversation, maybe a call recording software for WinMobile and other systems would come in handy. This one records speaker output and your input - speaker output is ok but not great - but hey, sometimes you might wish you had at least a audible recording - a wav file that could be enhanced later. Works on HD. http://dontknowme.at/http://www.nch.com.au/trx/index.html
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so what exactly then does the in call recording feature do? Anyone have any more insight into this issue?
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It is a software that automatically fires up itself whenever a call is connected, and it records your phone conversation, so that you don't need to take down notes on a piece of paper. It creats audio files that you can go back to listen to, and serves as a record or proof of your conversation with the other party.
Well, at least there is the last resort of turning on the speaker phone. Audio Note will surely work if you do that.
But I hope we can find something that can record when the embedded earpiece is used.
Should clarify that with the Trx offering other party is audible without turning on the speaker.
Does anybody have a program "In Call Recording" in HD? Look at http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-smartphone time 11:50, ICR icon. Thank you.
just letting you know that I use Audio Notes Touch for this (on my Omnia) - works superbly
- no need to be on speakerphone mode
- can record calls automtically even when Audio Notes Touch is not open
- AVLS
- can be used as a notetaker/sound-recorded
I've been searching for this feature a while ago and didn't find any free, working solution and even those payed ones seemed to be far from perfect. Today, I did the search again and realised that a very nice solution have shown up few months ago.
Seems to be working fine with Iolite (default ROM), even the version with "Record" option in call menu. Looks like it is also quite clean way as the main part is just a registry edit.
So, if you don't know it yet, here are links:
[*] 2 Side Voice Recording on Kaiser **WORKS**
Call recording: official list of supported models & ROM versions
Article that led me to the solution back on xda-dev - thanks Google
Btw, there might be some legal (and ethical) issues with the call recording. E.g. in my country, recorded party has to be informed about this. Still, it can be very helpful when taking notes would be too slow or dagerous (when driving...).
The Auto Call Recorder works perfectly, more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528507
Nice finding, thanks. Could be useful.
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E.g. in my country, recorded party has to be informed about this.
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On the other hand, who'll know? As long as you keep these records for yourself.
LFGM said:
The Auto Call Recorder works perfectly, more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528507
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Just tried it - Works absolutely flawless!
Thanks for the info
help with jasjam
i have jasjam with wm 6.5 professional
radio 1.48 extrom NASTAR V6.9H
2 way record or auto in record with many programs like vito or resco the incoming voice still too low or unheared so is there any way to record the incoming call without opening the speakers and the other voice is high