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When cradled is PC internet used ??

As a relative new comer to the trinity (dopod d810), I wonder if when I have the unit cradled, does it access the internet via my computer's connection.
Being with Telstra in Australia, data charges are high so if I ever want to surf extensively it would be better through my pc.
If this isnt the case, how do I know. Similarly if I'm connected to a wifi network, does the phone use that internet connection by default?
Thanks, Dean

You should try disabling advanced USB mode.

Can anyone offer some advice here?
Thanks, Dean
ps - not sure what the previous posters comment had to do with it....

The simple answer is no - it uses whichever network your unit is set to use under Connections, so if it's set to use your mobile phone operator's network, that's what it will be using when accessing the Internet.
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However, the PPC can be set to access the Internet through a valid LAN (via ActiveSync) or Wi-Fi network connection only by creating a *dummy* connection
If you want to access through your mobile operator again, simply switch from the dummy back to mobile operator connection, and vice versa

Nice work, I enterd the dummy connection and it seemed to work well - internet connection when cnnected to my pc, nothing when I disconnect.
Thanks, Dean

You're welcome I heard there was a software switch on the Trinity that turned data connection on and off (easier than switching connections) but so far I haven't found any on my Dopod D810

The above advice is good, but not the whole story!
All PPC devices will show 'My ISP' or whatever your GPRS connection is called, in the Network Settings/Programs that connect to....' box
If you never want to use GPRS, then the dummy connection is a good workaround. If you do envisage needing GPRS at some point, then it may be better to go into the My ISP settings, and remove the network password. This will mean that any attempt at the device connecting to GPRS will ask for the password, so you will be in control of connections.
Even if the settings are kept at the default, the device should connect via the PC when cradled, and via WiFi when successfully connected to an access point.
WM5 and WM6 are built to use Activesync/WiFI/GPRS in that order of heirarchy. If you find GPRS is still being used, there is an error in either your A/S settings, or WiFI settings.
In ActiveSync on the PC make sure under connection settings, that the default connection is The Internet, rather than Auto.

Interesting.... not trying to dispute the information given but the 'My ISP' (note: not the dummy connection that I created) entry on my D810 or 818 Pro does not contain any setting, nor does my GPRS connection requires a username or a password to access - it's locked to my SIM so is there a way to obtain a *password prompt* so to speak without using a username (with which the GPRS connection to mobile phone operator's network will be disrupted)?
PS. What A/S or Wi-Fi parameters do I need to verify if my PPC is still connecting through GRPS and not Wi-Fi (or ActiveSync)? Thanks. It doesn't appear to be overriding this setting no matter what I do (and I have tried it on 3 different D810 units to 3 different mobile network operators):

Maybe this is an operator/location specific issue with the Dopod?
If there is no username or password on the GPRS account, then it appears you are stymied when it comes to using the password 'workaround'
To check whether GPRS is being used, I suppose you could install a GPRS counter. Efficasoft GPRS Monitor is a small program and has a free trial. If you load it, and configure it to monitor all your GPRS connections, it should give you some hints as to how the connections are being used.
It may be that specific models have been 'modified' to use GPRS in preference. In UK, there is some evidence that the T-Mobile Compact III uses GPRS rather than ActiveSync (it doesn't have WiFi anyway).
It may also be worth unchecking 'Allow Wireless Connections when cradled' in the PC ActiveSync options.
Sorry I can't be more explicit!

Thanks anyway
I don't see much point in using a wireless connection when connected to a PC via ActiveSync (my D810 doesn't come with a cradle) so it looks like I'll continue with switching the network connection preference back and forth since it doesn't use my Wi-Fi or PC connection when set to connect to my mobile operator's network for Internet!!

Mesquire said:
You're welcome I heard there was a software switch on the Trinity that turned data connection on and off (easier than switching connections) but so far I haven't found any on my Dopod D810
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This may do the trick!
Bandswitch enables you to switch GPRS connections on/off by tapping a coloured bar. It also has a very useful band mode switch (GSM, 3G or Auto) for those seeing excessive battery drain on 3G.
Best of all, it's free!

8130 to router WiFi connection

I have a Tornado 8310 with WM6(Andot V6 ROM). I want to connect it to my Wireless Zyxel 661HW router. I need internet connection on my mobile phone to finish a project I work on for the university.
I am to connect to the router and I'm getting the correct IP from the DHCP but I get no Internet.
When I request a Page in IE I get "The Page cannot be found." message.
I was able to connect to the internet through the built in WiFi card of the Asus P5B mobo but I still cannot connect through the router.
Please help gyus..I need it badly.

Internet Sharing Reversed

internet sharing
the built in program lets you access the internet on your pc, using your mobile as a wireless modem. i was wondering if you could do the opposite
i have a HTC S710
could it (or any other smartphone / ppc) be used in this way to:
1) use your mobile as a wireless modem
so for example, my pc has a wired connection. could i plug in my mobile
and use it as a modem to get internet onto a laptop via wifi?
2) get the internet on your phone
go online on my mobile whilst connected through activesync or something
like that. theres a couple of programs that i like using on my mobile which
require the net, and i dont have any wifi hotspots nearby. (plus, im a
student, so im permanently broke )

sorry the only way to get internet on your phone through a computer is thru wifi

i use device center and vista with a wm6 touch.
in device center connection settings, there is a checkbox saying..
"allow data connection on device when connected to PC"
if you keep this unchecked, whenever device center is connected to your phone, your phone cannot connect to gprs and will use your data connection on PC.
i think this is what you are looking for.

i get perfectly ok internet on my pda when it's connected to activesync both using usb and bluetooth

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i get perfectly ok internet on my pda when it's connected to activesync both using usb and bluetooth
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can u explian how becoz im able to connect my pda with pc through bluetooth but when i try to connect to internet it show connection can you plz exlpian how to connect ????

i select my network under settings->connections->connections->advanced-picknetwork
rather then my isp or other gprs based networks

but on htc p3300 there is nothing like pick network plz look this pic and tell me wht to do
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but there is an advanced tab look there

in advance i get two connection MY ISP and MY WORK PLACE

i use my work network

plz advice
after clicking on advance i get this
after that i got this
plz tell wht to do next???

ok, ive now figured out you can get the net on your phone through activesync. i hadnt actually tried using the net whilst connected.
my real question now is, is it possible to use my mobile as a wireless modem.
by this i mean, stream the internet from activesync through wifi to another device (my laptop)
(also sorry, i have no idea about the htc p3300)

Any chance you're willing to share? I'm not entirely sure as to why I'd use my mobile to surf when I have a perfectly good computer right there with an internet connection, but I can't help but be curious.
cris_rowlands said:
ok, ive now figured out you can get the net on your phone through activesync. i hadnt actually tried using the net whilst connected.
my real question now is, is it possible to use my mobile as a wireless modem.
by this i mean, stream the internet from activesync through wifi to another device (my laptop)
(also sorry, i have no idea about the htc p3300)
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maybe he wants to DL something directly to his phone?

thakur83:
yes thats how mine's setup and when connected to activesync i got internet that way
mind you one cant fully close activesync or the connection is broken so it have to be minimized
plus activesync on the pc will have to be setup not to block the pda from getting the connection
and the pc firewall not to block it too
cris_rowlands:
if you do a search using the forum search rather then the google based one you can exclude to networking and search for "modem" you'd get piles of guides how to it

WiFi Help!?!

hi peeps,
Just have a HD. Manage to connect to orange no probs. But when i try to connect to the home wifi, it says its connected but the IE doesn't load, say 'Error' when trying to load the page.
anyone know any changes that need to be made to make the wifi work?
any help would be great.
thanks

How you connect to your home network. Do you have an AP or Router? Is your DHCP turned on? Do you have some security settings set up? We need more input data to help you.
I have 4 WAN internet router and an AP connected to it, my DHCP running and no probs connecting with my HD...

razor_amd said:
How you connect to your home network. Do you have an AP or Router? Is your DHCP turned on? Do you have some security settings set up? We need more input data to help you.
I have 4 WAN internet router and an AP connected to it, my DHCP running and no probs connecting with my HD...
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I have a router, there is a key needed to access it but I have put that in correctly.
not sure about the DHCP, or the AP?! what are those?!

If you have a wireless router than dont need an AP (Acces Point) it's integrated into wireless router. DHCP is a service in router that assigns IP adress and getaway to your connected devices so they can connect to your network or internet, so DHCP must be turned on so you dont need to assing those values manually...

Sorry for my poor english...In Settings>Connections try to set manually IP addr. like 192.168..... the Subnet Mask with 255.255.255.0 and the Gateway with the IP router...I had the same problem with automatic settings, now work...

razor_amd said:
If you have a wireless router than dont need an AP (Acces Point) it's integrated into wireless router. DHCP is a service in router that assigns IP adress and getaway to your connected devices so they can connect to your network or internet, so DHCP must be turned on so you dont need to assing those values manually...
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sorry to be a total newb! any advice on how/where to turn that on?

calcop said:
Sorry for my poor english...In Settings>Connections try to set manually IP addr. like 192.168..... the Subnet Mask with 255.255.255.0 and the Gateway with the IP router...I had the same problem with automatic settings, now work...
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thanks, not sure where to set the manaual IP tho?!

I think you need to config your router sub-mask IP and your DNS Server

I have a problem with my HD connecting to my WiFi Router. I have setup my router to lock the computers WiFi MAC address to a fixed IP address. It works on all computers including HTC Touch, HTC Prophet, HTC Trinity, 2 laptops and a Desktop. It won't work on the HD, it refuses to connect. I had to leave one IP address free just for my HD which is not really a big deal, but it should work with a fixed IP assigned to a MAC address.
Anyone have any ideas?

had the same problem myself...also had it with the m3100 (my previous phone) there is a post on another forum that i followed- it didnt seem to work immediately but then I was suddenly able to connect. On gf's laptop at the mo but when I get back to mine I will find the thread & post up the text.
the answer is out there though, however it was instructions for a different phone. (you may be able to find it before I get back tomorrow)

tother said:
had the same problem myself...also had it with the m3100 (my previous phone) there is a post on another forum that i followed- it didnt seem to work immediately but then I was suddenly able to connect. On gf's laptop at the mo but when I get back to mine I will find the thread & post up the text.
the answer is out there though, however it was instructions for a different phone. (you may be able to find it before I get back tomorrow)
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That would be great if you can link me the fix Thanks

What router are you using? I will try to find some way to help you guys...

razor_amd said:
What router are you using? I will try to find some way to help you guys...
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Dlink DI-624.
I've tried a few different settings, but I finally just gave up and left one IP address free so that my HD would connect.
As I said before I don't have the issue with any other computer but the HD. Thanks.

OK you should just set these parameters like on the pictures below and everything should work fine.... My comments in pictures are red colored.
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When you enable WEP encryption only ppl who knows password (Key) can acces your router thus your internet connection, so i strongly advise that you enable encryption so others can't connect if don't know the password
I hope that I helped and that it should work now...
Cheers

I have the same problem. I am trying to connect to a Netgear 834gt without success.
The Hd thinks it is connected to the router- it syas "connected" but I can't access the internet. If I access the router software, I cannot see the Hd as an attached device.
It works fine via Orange if I turn wireless networks off.
Also does the Hd have the capability of auto-switching off orange internet when you finish a browsing session, or do you have to do that manually? And do you have to have wlan turned off before you can access via orange internet? Cab Hd recognise both as options and give you a choice?

mooro1973 said:
I have the same problem. I am trying to connect to a Netgear 834gt without success.
The Hd thinks it is connected to the router- it syas "connected" but I can't access the internet. If I access the router software, I cannot see the Hd as an attached device.
It works fine via Orange if I turn wireless networks off.
Also does the Hd have the capability of auto-switching off orange internet when you finish a browsing session, or do you have to do that manually? And do you have to have wlan turned off before you can access via orange internet? Cab Hd recognise both as options and give you a choice?
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Mine connects to an 834gt too
I found it simplest to firstly turn off my MAC filter and WEP key.
Let the HD just connect to it openly, and grabbed the MAC address to add to my allowed list.
Then I turned WEP back on, and put the key on the HD.
As to switching - mine seems to use whatever it got first.
I saw seems, becuase when I'm at my desk, I get no Orange signal - so it happily drops that and uses wifi.
If I then go outside with it, it gets an Orange signal, but still uses the wifi until I move out of range of that, when it then just drops wifi and uses Orange.
hope that helps!

strange problem
Maybe I'm stupid but I cannot make my HTC HD to get a proper wifi connection using my Canyon CR-BN1 router and D-Link DWL-900AP+ access point
Auth on access point is set to Open, WEP is disabled, MAC-filter is ON (Touch HD MAC is listed), DHCP is disabled and LAN IP is set to Dynamic on access point, static DHCP is enabled on Canyon (access point MAC-address is linked to 192.168.1.4, Touch HD MAC-address is linked to 192.168.1.5). If wifi is turned on my Touch HD gets correct 192.168.1.5 (and gateway) and appears in Canyon's DHCP client list but no one internet app works IPer ping to 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.4 says "gateway 192.168.1.1 is dead".
In the same time my Asus P525 internet apps work fine and IPer ping is OK.
Any thoughts?
P.S. Connection to others wifi routers is OK

dr. said:
Maybe I'm stupid but I cannot make my HTC HD to get a proper wifi connection using my Canyon CR-BN1 router and D-Link DWL-900AP+ access point
Auth on access point is set to Open, WEP is disabled, MAC-filter is ON (Touch HD MAC is listed), DHCP is disabled and LAN IP is set to Dynamic on access point, static DHCP is enabled on Canyon (access point MAC-address is linked to 192.168.1.4, Touch HD MAC-address is linked to 192.168.1.5). If wifi is turned on my Touch HD gets correct 192.168.1.5 (and gateway) and appears in Canyon's DHCP client list but no one internet app works IPer ping to 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.4 says "gateway 192.168.1.1 is dead".
In the same time my Asus P525 internet apps work fine and IPer ping is OK.
Any thoughts?
P.S. Connection to others wifi routers is OK
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Make sure your HD is set to "maximum performance" for wifi. Its the only way mine will swap data with a router, even if it appears on the router's client list.

mooro1973 said:
Make sure your HD is set to "maximum performance" for wifi. Its the only way mine will swap data with a router, even if it appears on the router's client list.
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Thank you for your post.
I changed Power Save Mode to Best Performance but still no luck
I suppose it's something "personal" between HD and "D-Link + Canyon" copule...
EDIT:
I replaced AP D-Link to Linksys WAB54g v.2 - HD started surfing

mooro1973 said:
The Hd thinks it is connected to the router- it syas "connected" but I can't access the internet. If I access the router software, I cannot see the Hd as an attached device.
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dr. said:
If wifi is turned on my Touch HD gets correct 192.168.1.5 (and gateway) and appears in Canyon's DHCP client list but no one internet app works
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catinthehat said:
But when i try to connect to the home wifi, it says its connected but the IE doesn't load, say 'Error' when trying to load the page.
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Same here. It just happened after about 2 months of trouble free operation. For a month now, it reports that it connects fine, but no application can see internet. Have read 10ths of threads, 100s of posts.. Other people in other threads have the exact same problem. Tried every solution suggested, even hard resetted, nothing.
Very angry now. There seems to be a bad batch or something?
Anyone had any luck with HTC? Maybe returned for service and fixed?

VPN'ing on HD2

Has anyone managed to get VPN working on there HD2? I'm running the O2 rom 1.43, on the o2 network, i can connect to my home server via my iphone, and a Laptop using the Wifi router on the HD2, but not on WM VPN service.
Has anyone else had any issues?

I also tried to get a PPTP VPN connection established but could not get it to work. On the first connection attempt pretty much nothing happens, the second connection attempt gives my the rotating symbol which stays there forever.
To get out of this I have to reboot my HD2. The same VPN connection works without a problem on the Iphone.
Anybody else who has got a VPN connection on the HD2 actually working?

Hi,
Yes, I can do VPN to a Draytek router without problems usign PPTP connection.
After that I can use Remote desktop and SSH term on lan computers.
I have 1.48 stock ROM WWE East European version. Works even with gprs, slow but works.
One bug with Opera. It doesn't use excluding list, so it disconnects the vpn connection when I want to browse an internal address. Works ok with IExplorer.
Regards,
VM

Hi VirtualM,
maybe you have THE solution?
I tried and tried to configure a PPTP VPN, but without results...
I already open a thread called :How to configure a (free) VPN?... as it's possible with IPhone (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601465)
Please, would you have a look of this thread, especially the pictures, to check if I'm doing something wrong to configure.
It will be very helpful.

As has been mentioned on this forum before, PPTP VPN with MPPE (i.e. majority of providers and routers) is not supported on Windows mobile...even though PPTP/MPEE is Microsoft's protocol :/
The only way you can get VPN to work in WM 6.0 & 6.5 is to use PPTP without MPPE (i.e. NO encryption...kinda pointless) or L2TP / IPSEC. It's not yet clear whether MPPE will be supported win WM7, lets just hope it is.
Hope that clears it up

just a little update, i've managed to get a connection now after updating to 1.48, after setting every thing back up initially i couldn't get a connection, so i deleted the Modem, under "My Work Network" in connections and just left the "My ISP" as the internet connection.

VirtualM said:
Hi,
Yes, I can do VPN to a Draytek router without problems usign PPTP connection.
After that I can use Remote desktop and SSH term on lan computers.
I have 1.48 stock ROM WWE East European version. Works even with gprs, slow but works.
One bug with Opera. It doesn't use excluding list, so it disconnects the vpn connection when I want to browse an internal address. Works ok with IExplorer.
Regards,
VM
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Hi, could you please describe how you connect to Draytek VPN? I'm using the 2910G, but I'm unable to setup the VPN from WM6.5. I'm using the PPTP from winXP/7 without problems. I have set the encryption to optional but still no luck.
This is what I did so far:
-created Remote worker on router
-create VPN server setting in WM6.5 using Connections (I tried both setting up the VPN and exceptions in Orange Internet profile and also tried creating separate profile for VPN that was set as My Work profile)
-selecting Connect on the VPN connection does nothing and I cannot access the local network
-Installed Draytek Syslog - I see no activity coming from WM (neither in VPN logs nor in any other like FW, DDoS etc)
Thank you in advance.

dannyb1307 said:
just a little update, i've managed to get a connection now after updating to 1.48, after setting every thing back up initially i couldn't get a connection, so i deleted the Modem, under "My Work Network" in connections and just left the "My ISP" as the internet connection.
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And your connection stays up and running when you connect to an internal server? My connection always drops.

My HD2 doesnt have a VPN tab, anybody knows why??
Hello.
I have seen too many people speaking that succeeded do a VPN.
At attatch, is my HD2 screen and it doesn't have a VPN tab...
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How can I do a pptp VPN using the HD2 ?
Which way should I go?
thanks,
João Claudio

Hi,
I've recently bought an HD2 and wanted to setup a connection to my office-network through VPN (PPTP).
Now I manage to get a connection and it will stay open for a couple of minutes, but I get no traffic through to my work network
What I found out, through vxutils, is that the RAS line adapter created by the VPN connection has the wrong netmask, 255.255.255.255 when it should be 255.255.0.0 ?!
I have no clue how to incluence this on my HD2...
Anyone got any hint ??
Thanx, JP.
BTW, I'm running the latest htc ROM.

Currently trying to get my HTC HD2 to connect to ItsHidden.com's VPN.
I have tried GreenBow VPN and it only has L2TP/IPsec.
I have searched and tried all the tutorial I can find so far for the built-in option and I get either:
"Cannot connect: Verify username/password"
or
"Remote party refused connection"
...but it works fine on all of my PC's (yes I have checked the user/pass info to be sure).
I added the VPN to the "My work network", then tried to get it to connect, producing both the errors. The modem connection was under its own bit and no connection was specified for the "My Work network".
Any help would be great...
Regards,
peymax

hye,
my vpn server gives ip between 192.168.1.120 to 192.168.1.130 (i've tried other ranges), it's a simple PPTP setted in XP. Its own IP in the lan is 192.168.0.9 fixed to its mac adresse
i've natted the port 1723 to it (i've tried in dmz as well).
It works from an other XP from internet (so my vpn server is well listenning).
It works when the HD2 share its connection via bluetooth from an other XP or an android (so my FAI orange allow it)
It works when i connect my HD2 in my lan through wifi (so my settings in the HD2 are correct)
i do not manage to connect my HD2 to it directly through its cell connection...
i think there is something arround IP ranges i've misted ...
the freeware NetInfoBox show that my "public" IP on the 3G interface is 10.226.97.103 (it changes and it look like a lan range) mask : 255.0.0.0 dns : 192.168.10.110
when i use the connection shared by the hd2, i see that the device (XP or android) have an IP like 192.168.0.1
And NetInfoBox inthe the HD2 show that the hd2 ip is 192.168.0.1 mask 255.255.255.0 dns : 192.168.10.110
I don't manage to connect to the vpn too when i run the hd2 with android...
i really think there is an IP conflict some where ...
update some days later :
i manage to connect to my vpn with my old samsung player addict i900 running windows mobile 6.1 ... over cell connection (of course that the objectif)
but as soon as i try to connect to any site (internet or vpn), it log me off (from the vpn) ... maybe a question of profil

dannyb1307 said:
just a little update, i've managed to get a connection now after updating to 1.48, after setting every thing back up initially i couldn't get a connection, so i deleted the Modem, under "My Work Network" in connections and just left the "My ISP" as the internet connection.
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I tried that and it worked tanx

successful..
after so many failed attempts finally i got it, now successfully connected vpn on HD2